THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST - WE ARE BACK - S3EP1

June 03, 2025 • 01:35:22
THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST - WE ARE BACK - S3EP1
The Feel Weird Podcast
THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST - WE ARE BACK - S3EP1

Jun 03 2025 | 01:35:22

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The boys are BACK! Series three starts with Sam (@kydbluartist) and Liam (@maloney.png) fesh off their VIP trip to Tyler The Creator in MCR, and their viewing of the smash hit 'Sinners'! Along with some 'GOAT' discussions and more pop culture! 

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[00:00:11] Speaker A: Welcome everybody to series three. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Series three, welcome Back podcast. [00:00:18] Speaker A: So it feels like ages, but really it's probably only been like a month on it. [00:00:24] Speaker B: No, it's been longer. [00:00:25] Speaker A: No, because the live show was May. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Was it much? [00:00:28] Speaker A: No, it wasn't. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Yes, it was. No, it was end of March. It was like the 30s summit of March. [00:00:32] Speaker A: We really should have checked that. But I'm convinced it wasn't. Anyways, mini hiatus, hasn't it? [00:00:37] Speaker B: It's felt long because we've missed it. [00:00:39] Speaker A: We've. We've obviously not. Because we had a hiatus. We've not spoke about the success of the live show. Yeah, the live show was great. Thank you everybody for coming massively. And obviously we. We so many people bought all the clothes. So that was. We're so grateful for that. [00:00:52] Speaker B: Yeah, we had some good artists turn out. We had some debut of certain artists. [00:00:57] Speaker A: We did. Yeah. [00:00:57] Speaker B: Others you'll be seeing on a familiar platform such as this. [00:01:00] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:01:02] Speaker B: And it was a nice, wholesome time, wasn't it? [00:01:04] Speaker A: It was such a wholesome time. We had like 50 people sat on beanbags and sofas and. And couch cushions like all over while we did our. [00:01:10] Speaker B: But if you listen to this, I assume you've already heard the episode. [00:01:13] Speaker A: Yes. [00:01:13] Speaker B: And you thought, God, that sound like a good time. If I wasn't. [00:01:16] Speaker A: That sounds so funny. I wish I was there. [00:01:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:18] Speaker A: Yeah. It's a shame that I live in California. [00:01:20] Speaker B: It is. And planes and trains exactly coincide with what I'm doing. [00:01:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, anyway, we've got some big plans for series three. And I know that's what everybody says, but we've gained some members of the team secretly. And that also makes the note that we're missing Lilz and Splinter today. Lilz is in Paris, so boo hoo to her. And Splinter's locked up in recital season of university. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. [00:01:44] Speaker A: Yes, Training the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is what we should have said. [00:01:46] Speaker B: So it's Back to the OGs. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Exactly. And we were supposed to be filming with a very special. [00:01:50] Speaker B: We were. Who we will be seeing at a. [00:01:52] Speaker A: Later date who will be coming back on. So there will be no reveal of who that is. Yeah, we just probably sad it. Let's come in. We've missed you all. [00:01:59] Speaker B: But at the same time, it's for the best because we're both cooking so warm. [00:02:04] Speaker A: It's very warm in here. And don't be fooled by our outfits. We've picked fashion over. [00:02:08] Speaker B: As per always over function. [00:02:09] Speaker A: Function. That's fashion over function is what I was getting At. But the other thing is. So obviously we always love to touch on what we've missed, pop culture wise, but we're not going to go over everything over the last two months because what's the point? You'll have heard it all a million times. But just this last, I'm gonna say, 24 hours alone. [00:02:26] Speaker B: Yep. [00:02:27] Speaker A: Me and Liam have lived a life. [00:02:30] Speaker B: We've lived a life. [00:02:30] Speaker A: So let's start with what we did last night. Would you like to tell the story? [00:02:35] Speaker B: If Sam's hat wasn't already a giveaway, or if you listen to this on Spotify, Apple Music or anywhere else. Sam and I on a very nice cheap deal. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. We're not allowed to reveal our. [00:02:46] Speaker B: Nope. Not revealing any sources. Yeah. Went to go see Tyler, the creator. [00:02:51] Speaker A: Vip. [00:02:52] Speaker B: VIP access in the corporate for the first time. Neither of us have been there. [00:02:57] Speaker A: First time. [00:02:57] Speaker B: Astounded at how good it was. [00:03:00] Speaker A: Would you believe it? Looks brand new. It was built 10 minutes ago. [00:03:02] Speaker B: We was zero minutes for anything the entire time we were there. [00:03:05] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah. We had our own merch. [00:03:08] Speaker B: We had our own merch. Had our own little co op. I've never seen a stadium have a little shop. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:13] Speaker B: With just one member of staffing. We didn't wait any time for that. [00:03:16] Speaker A: No. [00:03:16] Speaker B: You went for your merch straight away. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Got it. [00:03:20] Speaker B: And there was someone that took you to every section. So we got there. I obviously got scanned, checked tickets. Someone said, very nice people as well. Like, said, oh, is this your first time here? [00:03:29] Speaker A: Staff were great. [00:03:30] Speaker B: Who you here to? Not who you here to see. They know who you here to see, but took you to the next person. Said, if you got this way. Area your toilets. Area. Whatever. Nice. [00:03:37] Speaker A: And I've got to say, I'm a bit good. We had food before, didn't we? Yeah. Because then we walked in and the food looked unreal. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Ridiculous. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Yeah. So as Mancunians, it was nice to experience the co op live as well, wasn't it? [00:03:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. But as two Wythenshaw boys, I guess you get as two people who. [00:03:53] Speaker A: Not skin in the game. But I'm not one muskin in the game. [00:03:55] Speaker B: As two people who would not be buying a 280 quid ticket for almost damn near anyone. [00:04:02] Speaker A: Absolutely nobody. [00:04:03] Speaker B: It's 180 quid less than we spent on Kendrick. [00:04:05] Speaker A: Kendrick's the most I've ever spent on a ticket that's not a festival ticket. And it would have only been for Kendrick. And it was what, 100 quid? 90 quid or something. [00:04:11] Speaker B: 90 quid. It was 94 quid or something. [00:04:12] Speaker A: 92 quid. I've never. Even as an artist and a musician myself, I have never understood people that will pay over 100 quid for tickets. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Taylor Swift tickets are going for thousands. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Yeah. But swifties lack brain cells. Well, that is a thing. [00:04:25] Speaker B: What they don't like is parents who have bread. [00:04:27] Speaker A: Exactly. They don't have parents with bread. Or parents. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Or parents. Plural parents. [00:04:31] Speaker A: No disrespect to the mums. We've both got one mum left. Yeah. So it was quite hilarious because Splinter was just kind of pissing himself at us all day because me and Liam were like, oh, my God, the seats have got cup holders. [00:04:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. We were well impressed by everything. I came to Sam in the toilet went, sam, have you seen the toilet paper? And they had a wash station next to the sink. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:51] Speaker B: With spray on it. [00:04:52] Speaker A: They had deodorant just there. [00:04:54] Speaker B: Insane. [00:04:54] Speaker A: I nearly put it in my pocket. [00:04:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I was so tempted to go, also steal a toilet roll. Just had a weekly shot, had some delivered, but it was, like, thick, good quality. And also the toilet said, look like Ministry of Magic. [00:05:05] Speaker A: They did. Have you noticed? No urinals as well. All cubicles. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah. We were both looking for them. [00:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:10] Speaker B: God, they could see. [00:05:11] Speaker A: Because I'm used to going Old Trafford where everyone's pissing in the sink and pissing on the floor. So maybe that was for the best. [00:05:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:16] Speaker A: We'll get on to how amazing the show was. [00:05:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:19] Speaker A: But there was one thing that me and Liam realized very quickly and thought, oh, that's gonna change as the show goes on. And it just didn't. [00:05:25] Speaker B: The cables in the way. [00:05:26] Speaker A: No, that was annoying. Oh, Fair go on the demographic. [00:05:30] Speaker B: Ah, yeah. Big time. Big time. [00:05:32] Speaker A: Everybody was eight. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Everyone was eight. [00:05:34] Speaker A: Everyone was like, key stage two. [00:05:37] Speaker B: I've been listening to Tyler for. Since Yonkers came out, which I think is 12 years. Probably longer. I think it was 2010, so maybe 2012. [00:05:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:45] Speaker B: So bit like 13 years now. And there were kids there who were 1 million percent younger than that song was. [00:05:51] Speaker A: Would you not remember when we were. When we were sat in, like, the loungey bit and those kids. Rampass. And I'm not kidding, they were genuinely six, seven years old. [00:05:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Children dripped in chromo copia, of course. And obviously, as we were laughing, because we were aware that we were there for free, but everyone had paid a lot of money to be there. So when you see, like, literal, like, year four kids running around, literally, year four kids, one of the Most R rated rappers around. I mean, this is the guy that was banned from the UK for some very explicit lyrics repeated on the platform. Exactly. [00:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah. No, we were both astonished at it because look around going. I thought everyone was going to be my age, like late 20s, early 30s. Because they're. People have been listening to him since they were teenagers. Like I was. [00:06:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:34] Speaker B: And there was barely anyone. [00:06:35] Speaker A: No. [00:06:36] Speaker B: There wasn't even really any, like parents that had gone with them. [00:06:38] Speaker A: Do you know what? I know there was no one over the a. Over our age, really. [00:06:43] Speaker B: No, no. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Apart from the three girls behind us, there was three women behind us that were definitely in the 40s. [00:06:48] Speaker B: Okay. [00:06:48] Speaker A: But they knew all the words, so fair play. But I just mean, like everyone was literally so young. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:53] Speaker A: And it was. Yeah, it was a bit of a shock. [00:06:55] Speaker B: Surprising though. [00:06:56] Speaker A: And obviously we would have loved to be in the pits and everything. But like, the pits did look a bit mad. But then the closer you looked, it just like kids everywhere. [00:07:02] Speaker B: We would have felt really weird just being in there. [00:07:04] Speaker A: I would have felt inappropriate. [00:07:05] Speaker B: And also I'm a lot bigger than a lot. All those children and weigh a lot more. So, yeah, we get into it then there's just kids flying out everywhere because they're catching elbows. Because you think in New Magic Wand I'm going to keep it civil. [00:07:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:21] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean? [00:07:22] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, as we're recording this, I made the comment yesterday, as we're recording this yesterday, the video went viral of that guy that was doing the cheese run in like dulce or whatever and was running down. Yeah. And then flipping. That was me in New Magic Wand. I nearly just wanted to just like forward roll. [00:07:38] Speaker B: When we went to Kendrick though, that was. I thought everyone there felt like they were in our like age, mid to late 20s. Everyone. There were a lot of old. [00:07:45] Speaker A: There was a lot of youngins. [00:07:46] Speaker B: But like, I didn't see many youngins. I saw a lot of guys there stupidly there with like their small girlfriends. [00:07:51] Speaker A: Oh, I remember that guy. Yeah. [00:07:52] Speaker B: Kicked about and losing her. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Do you remember that? That guy that was behind us that literally like almost had his girlfriend on a leash because he was that terrified. [00:07:58] Speaker B: You would need her in a full. [00:07:59] Speaker A: She was about 4 foot 5 as well. She was gonn sucked into the crowd and disappear. [00:08:03] Speaker B: I feel like I should have won and went. Money Trees is in three songs. You need to get to the back. Yeah. Because it's gonna get livid in here. [00:08:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I've got to say though, as well, because as much as I was getting lulled in and following him doing it. But Liam was so funny. Liam had the set list on his phone, and every time a song would finish, we'd check where the next song is. And I really want to hear in the comments what people think about that. [00:08:23] Speaker B: It's a good point. [00:08:23] Speaker A: I hated it at first, but then I couldn't help but look where you were. [00:08:26] Speaker B: Also, my thought was, because there were a bunch of small girls behind us. I know the second I stand up, they're not seeing anything. So if I go, I'm gonna wait three songs. And then there were like, eight in a row. I was like, I love all these, because that's when he went through all the Legacy songs. So I was like, I'm just gonna have to stand up, and they're just gonna have to take it or leave. [00:08:41] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. [00:08:41] Speaker B: I mean. [00:08:42] Speaker A: Well, on that note, then, let's talk about the actual show. So, firstly, the actual chroma copia container. [00:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Which I would give my left lung to live in. A green container with chroma set design. [00:08:53] Speaker B: Really? [00:08:54] Speaker A: You can't give your left lung. Unfortunately, I can. Oh, it's your right lung. [00:08:57] Speaker B: You can't give my right. [00:08:58] Speaker A: Sorry about that. [00:08:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:00] Speaker A: But it was absolutely unreal. And I don't want to. Not necessarily about spoilers, but then when the bridge came down and so I guess spoilers. I don't know if anyone's gonna see him. But the house that they, like. They built like a living room, didn't they? With, like, a record player, like, hedges around it and everything, like bushes. And then they, like, dropped, like a. Almost a projected house around it. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Really cool. [00:09:22] Speaker A: It was so cool. And he was. He was going up to his record player and they had a camera zoomed in. He was flicking through his records and it'd, like, stop on one, and everyone would. Oh, my God. And then he'd be like, yonkers. And everyone would go mad, and then he'd pick it out and he was playing snippets of his old stuff on it. [00:09:36] Speaker B: Yeah, very nice. [00:09:37] Speaker A: And you didn't like that, did you? [00:09:38] Speaker B: I wasn't crazy on it. And I totally understand why. Because if you're an artist who's been around forever, I say forever. There's people like Rolling Stones are still touring. [00:09:46] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. Yeah. In the grand scheme of things, 60. [00:09:48] Speaker B: Years near of music, which is insane. But I guess they've also been playing the same songs. Yeah, they're not playing anything that's in the last 30 years, are they? [00:09:55] Speaker A: But Tyler's probably. Let's say 2009 is probably. Is that the earliest presence we ever had of Tyler? Maybe 10? [00:10:00] Speaker B: No. Yeah. I think Bastard is probably like. Yeah, yeah, around that time. [00:10:04] Speaker A: Odd future. Let's say 15 years, to be generous. Right. So then let's equal that as Frank Ocean, because he was in Odd Future. Obviously, in 15 years, though, we've had probably quadruple the amount of music from Tyler Crater than we've had out of Frank Ocean. Oh, maybe five times more. [00:10:18] Speaker B: Maybe five times more. If you count in Nostalgia, Ultra, then Channel Orange, then Blonde, and I'll even. [00:10:25] Speaker A: Give him his hidden album. [00:10:26] Speaker B: Even give him that. [00:10:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that never came out. [00:10:27] Speaker B: And if you think with all of Tyler's. And then like the B sides that he put out to stuff as well, it's a lot to get through. So I was a little iffy because I was so excited to hear the older stuff. And then he would do maybe like 40 seconds of it. Those shortest was Yonkers, to be fair. But then even like, who that boy? Who that boy? You just did the. The hook and then did a little the verse drop and then that was it. Which is fine, because I get it. You there to do the new record. And he put a lot into the image and the style. [00:10:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:57] Speaker B: The moves, everything. So I get that if I was an artist, I'd also go, go. You didn't see me in that tour. [00:11:03] Speaker A: And we actually forgot to compare it because we chatted afterwards. Because I'm 95% sure that Kendrick Lamar did the same thing with Mr. Morale when we went where I think he played 70, 80% of the new album. [00:11:15] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe did. I can't remember. [00:11:16] Speaker A: And again, I do think it was tough, really, wasn't it? Because as we walked out, we were like, oh, I wanted to see more like two Igor tunes. Yeah, three. Maybe One Day. [00:11:25] Speaker B: No, it was three Igor, two, Flower Boy, five between. Our favorite album is Horrible. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Hurts my Heart. But I. I was also aware of that. Like, again, he's not old. That artists like Kendrick and Tyler, as much as they're so instrumental to us, they ain't old enough to be dipping their new songs and playing all the hits. No, I've got to give them that. Because if I was an artist and I was 35, like Tyler, the Crate or whatever, there's no way I'm binning off my new songs to play. [00:11:51] Speaker B: No, totally. [00:11:52] Speaker A: So I'm trying to view it more as I was grateful we got a minute of. Of, like, Yonkers and some of the older tunes, like she, that's the closest thing we're gonna get to hearing Frank Ocean live. [00:12:01] Speaker B: It was. [00:12:01] Speaker A: Loved it. [00:12:02] Speaker B: And I belted it out like Celine Dion. [00:12:04] Speaker A: And I actually am glad that Tyler played Frank's bit and didn't even do his verse because he was like, I know you'd all rather hear Frank. [00:12:09] Speaker B: Well, also, he wants me to. So, like, for Earthquake, he didn't sing almost any of it. He just kind of walked around and I saw, because I got a video of it, he puts a little cologne on. He kind of fixes what he's wearing and just lets the crowd take it. [00:12:23] Speaker A: Which is so cool. [00:12:24] Speaker B: Which is great, because what is better than. How big is it? 18,000? [00:12:28] Speaker A: It's like 20,300 or something. [00:12:29] Speaker B: 20,000 people singing earthquake word for word. [00:12:32] Speaker A: And obviously it's his biggest song. So that's the one that everybody knows. [00:12:35] Speaker B: What everyone wants to hear. [00:12:35] Speaker A: And it kind of fit him having his moment in that little staged bit that was like the living room. He was obviously like, do you see? He was even putting his shoes on. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:12:42] Speaker A: So it was pretty cool. And also, yeah, on that note, fun fact. Everyone didn't realize. Well, loads of people don't realize, but I only looked into it recently. The Corpse, the big new venue, as we were saying Yesterday, they got 300 more seats in the. I was gonna call it the Emea arena. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Was it 300 less than the arena? [00:12:57] Speaker A: No, 300 more than the AO arena. [00:12:59] Speaker B: You would never tell. [00:13:00] Speaker A: No. Court felt huge, didn't it? Yeah, but we were saying, like, you walk past the Manchester arena and obviously it's part of the train station. You don't really see the building. Whereas the Cult was on its own. [00:13:08] Speaker B: It was humongous. [00:13:10] Speaker A: Like an actual arena, didn't it? [00:13:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:13:12] Speaker A: Anyway, that's irrelevant, but. But the. It's so typical as well. We were a bit good. We didn't get a video of it, but, like, he made another comment about Manchester's weather. Yeah, he loved the crowd. We've both posted some on TikTok of when he was doing Wash your Name, which is one of my actual underrated favorite songs of his. Like, the whole middle of the crowd or the pit started getting on the floor and rowing. [00:13:33] Speaker B: So random. [00:13:34] Speaker A: And I just would. If I could ask Tyler Crater anything right now, it would be like, sure. Did you love that? [00:13:38] Speaker B: Did you see that? And did you see. [00:13:39] Speaker A: He would have loved that. [00:13:40] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. [00:13:41] Speaker A: That really made me laugh. All in Manchester. I know we think we're playing but. [00:13:44] Speaker B: Also the fact that some person has managed to convince dozens and dozens and dozens of people around him, yeah, sit on this. [00:13:52] Speaker A: There's a hundred people that did it. To be fair, weren't they, like, sit. [00:13:54] Speaker B: On this monkey floor now. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah, row. [00:13:56] Speaker B: And everyone went, yeah, calm. Sick idea. [00:13:58] Speaker A: What's funny as well, I, I. This is gonna sound really pretentious, but because all Those kids looked 13 in their mosh pits. [00:14:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:05] Speaker A: I had a bit more respect from when they did that because I thought, you have to have seen the music video to know that that needs to be rode. [00:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:10] Speaker A: It's not like that big of a theme. [00:14:12] Speaker B: Yeah, true. [00:14:12] Speaker A: I thought, okay, I'll allow it. You definitely are actual fans. [00:14:15] Speaker B: Yeah, you are. But also big energy from him as well. We said from the start, from Yachty. [00:14:18] Speaker A: And everything, like, Paris, Texas. So, like, they ain't gonna see this, but Shout Out Paris, Texas, they've got a couple of tunes that I'd hear. Well, yeah, that's true. I heard kind of last year, like, heavy metal was in my, like, top five tunes last year. What a tune. And they were the first support, weren't they? And, like, we wanted to get down there early and see them. And those three, they had way better energy than Lil Yachty. I was pretty disappointed in Lil Yachty, but granted, I was also aware of that. Like, I ain't his biggest f. I love a lot of his new stuff of the last, like, four years when he's been kind of doing some of the soul samples. And, like, obviously, he's kind of yacht rock stuff I really am a big fan of. But he was just a bit dead, wasn't he? Like, he just kind of walks around with his towel, a lot of screeching. [00:14:57] Speaker B: We were like, all right. [00:14:58] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [00:14:59] Speaker B: That's just a bit. [00:15:00] Speaker A: Jesus Christ. And obviously, the first half of his set, you couldn't tell when one song ended and when the other. [00:15:04] Speaker B: No, he kind of just cut straight from one to the next one. It was almost like he's, like, trying to whittle through his set as quick as possible. [00:15:10] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. So that being said, like we said, that crowd went nuts for everybody. They really did shout out to them. But, yeah, New Magic Wand, I was. [00:15:19] Speaker B: That was one you're waiting on. [00:15:20] Speaker A: I was really devastated. I didn't. I wasn't in them pits for that. [00:15:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that would have been a one to be in there for. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Totally. I mean, there were so many moments where the 808s, I felt like I can't picture what the meme Is. But you know when there's. [00:15:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:31] Speaker A: Your heart's like rattling and you getting thrown backwards. Yeah. I felt like I was. I felt like I was Katy Perry. Felt like I was Katy Perry. Going up to base. [00:15:39] Speaker B: Nice cultural reference. [00:15:40] Speaker A: We missed it. [00:15:41] Speaker B: We missed it. We couldn't. That's all we need to get into. We keep it moving because we've got a lot. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah. We're not going to get into it. But anyway, the other thing that we caught up on, it's been huge in culture for the last month or two. What did me and you do, Liam and finish an hour ago? [00:15:54] Speaker B: Well, for someone like Hannah who has listened to this. Waiting for this. We've been trying to go watch Sinners together for at least the last two and a half weeks. I think that's when I watched it. [00:16:03] Speaker A: We booked tickets. [00:16:04] Speaker B: I'm trying to find time. We booked tickets which we didn't manage to go on. It's a refund them. [00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:08] Speaker B: And today, because we had our guest drop out. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:10] Speaker B: We finally managed to go see it this afternoon. And Sam knew very little going in. [00:16:15] Speaker A: He knew intentionally black people, vampires. [00:16:18] Speaker B: That was it, really. [00:16:20] Speaker A: I thought it was going to be Django vampires. Basically. [00:16:23] Speaker B: I'm sold. I'm so sold on Django vampires. [00:16:26] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:16:26] Speaker B: Anyway, the point is we went to watch it and the second we came. [00:16:29] Speaker A: Out I went, don't say a word. [00:16:31] Speaker B: Let's get on the tram. Let's go studio. [00:16:34] Speaker A: Because we did straight here. [00:16:35] Speaker B: Watch it less than an hour ago. [00:16:37] Speaker A: Literally. [00:16:38] Speaker B: Please go first, Sam. Before I go. [00:16:41] Speaker A: Liam's been very. Liam as how you don't say anything. [00:16:43] Speaker B: Other than best man watch. This year. I'm throwing the stage. That's where my bar is at. But go on. [00:16:48] Speaker A: So for every everyone that knows us, I'm hoping. Obviously we're very lucky. We've got some people that have bought into the show and what we do that didn't know us Prior. But anyone who does know us Prior knows what Liam is like when he sees something he enjoys first. [00:17:02] Speaker B: This is so. [00:17:02] Speaker A: And how much of like the opposite of a gatekeeper he is. He wants to show you and he wants. [00:17:06] Speaker B: That's a good point. [00:17:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And he wants to watch your reaction for the whole thing. Right. Yeah. [00:17:10] Speaker B: The whole time. [00:17:11] Speaker A: So. So I am very conscious that I want to give Liam the perfect reaction. He wants to see. Just to put you at ease. I loved it. It was fantastic. I could see him like, we would. [00:17:23] Speaker B: Have cancelled this right now. [00:17:24] Speaker A: He were twitching like a crack at it. Then when I could See it? [00:17:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:27] Speaker A: I mean, the first thing I thought was that was the. That was the best Tarantino film that he's never made. Like, he is pissed that he didn't make that film. [00:17:35] Speaker B: Great way of putting it. [00:17:36] Speaker A: Like, I can see why the likes of Tom Cruise and other major actors were like, just going to their nearest cinema to see that film. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Kevin Bacon did the same with his wife. He did a lot of video. Was like, dear God, go watch that movie. [00:17:46] Speaker A: Totally. I think Ryan Coogler, people have got to put some more respect on his name because we've seen a lot of. And not to just sound like we're trying to be allies or whatever, but they've seen a lot of people kind of diminishing the success of this film because he's a black director. Kept putting the tag of black director on him and how much money he's made as a black director when he's just made more money than every other film. [00:18:05] Speaker B: He's just been. Just put him as director. [00:18:07] Speaker A: It's just been a fantastic film. Been really successful standalone, you know, and obviously, like, that pisses us off anyway. But yeah, the success of Black Panther and his other great hits, like, we really need to start putting him up there now. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:18:20] Speaker A: And I'm. And I mean that more so because I just like you. I'm so bored of, like, existing IP films getting rammed down our throats 100% that there's nothing. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Sequels and remakes everywhere. [00:18:32] Speaker A: That film, the film Sinners could have been 40% less quality of a film and I still would have enjoyed it. [00:18:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:37] Speaker A: Because of how original it was. [00:18:38] Speaker B: Really was. Never seen anything like. [00:18:40] Speaker A: Never seen anything like it. I absolutely love it when a film feels like. It's like. You know when. You know when you kind of look at your watch an hour and a half into a film and think, I don't know how long this is. Like, is it going to end any minute? [00:18:51] Speaker B: You never know when it's going. [00:18:52] Speaker A: And kept going. I love that. I'm really excited to watch it again so I can digest stuff a lot more. Because there was a couple of scenes where I was just trying to take everything in, like, spot all the hidden details and like, blah, blah, blah. Like, that means the one. The particular scene that everybody's a big fan of that whenever I saw on my socials, I was skipping past, but I knew it was that scene. [00:19:12] Speaker B: The montage. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Yeah. And the big one shot. [00:19:14] Speaker B: Oh. [00:19:15] Speaker A: I was just kept beautiful. I just kept trying to look at everything like, I want to watch it Again. And, and obviously, just like you, I'm constantly trying to work out everything. I can't just fucking. [00:19:23] Speaker B: You're good at that, though. You often call it. Although you thought in this one. This is the first time I watched film for you where you. You said something. It was the total opposite. [00:19:29] Speaker A: Well, you say that, but I wasn't totally wrong. [00:19:31] Speaker B: No, you weren't totally wrong, but normally you'll guess the killer of a film. 20min and I've got a gaslight. And you go, no, that guy isn't the killer. [00:19:39] Speaker A: But obviously I knew there were vampires going in. That was the only thing I knew. [00:19:42] Speaker B: Is that still recording, by the way? [00:19:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it is. It always goes to that. [00:19:45] Speaker B: Don't worry, go on. [00:19:45] Speaker A: But the first. I forgot his name. Is it Jack o' Connell? [00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah, Jack Remick. [00:19:50] Speaker A: He's the character when he ran across the, like the field and he was. And he was like seething. That was when I was like, he's the first vampire. [00:19:57] Speaker B: Yes. [00:19:58] Speaker A: So I knew that. [00:19:58] Speaker B: And when I saw so much law to just throw at you when you're done, so. [00:20:02] Speaker A: So I know you're going to. So give a sec. So. And then when he, when he was trying to get into that place and he saw the Ku Klux Klan stuff in the background, that's when I thought, okay. But I was thinking, I get the way. [00:20:12] Speaker B: I can see why. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Yeah. So then I was, I was thinking because. And then after they got Hailee Steinfeld and they turned her, I was thinking, is this, is this like a whites versus black thing? Is it a case of they're turning vampires because they think vampires are elite or whatever? [00:20:29] Speaker B: Sure. [00:20:29] Speaker A: And then they feed on like black people or whatever. I would. Because I was thinking, they don't throw the Ku Klux Stan Klan stuff. Klu Klux. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Find it. [00:20:38] Speaker A: Oh my God. They don't throw that stuff at us. Unless that's a part of the vampire thing. [00:20:43] Speaker B: Totally. [00:20:44] Speaker A: But then obviously, spoiler alert. Like the fact that when all the vampires share each other's memories and it turns out that the guy who sold them the club was part of the clan, I thought that was really clever, really enjoyed that. But yeah, I was constantly trying to work out more of a twist than there actually was after that. So that's what I mean when I'm really excited to watch it again because it was just. It was just a top film. The music was exceptional. [00:21:08] Speaker B: Music alone, you could do an hour on as a musician. [00:21:10] Speaker A: Totally. You know, the, the guy, the preacher boy, what his name is in Real life, don't you? [00:21:16] Speaker B: No, I actually don't. [00:21:17] Speaker A: I actually don't because I'd seen lots of tiktoks about him being like, he's a revolutionary photo. [00:21:23] Speaker B: So young. [00:21:23] Speaker A: Such a unique voice as well. But when they say it's more so with rappers, really. But when you hear a rapper's or a vocalist's voice, you just know what they're gonna like. Defin, he was like really low. [00:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:35] Speaker A: Baritone voice. And then like, his range was great. His voice was amazing. [00:21:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:39] Speaker A: But I'd seen loads of clips and it's gonna really wind me up. I can't remember what they were from. But he kind of got spotted a year or two ago, didn't he? A couple of years maybe. And Ryan Coogler was like, I like him. [00:21:48] Speaker B: He didn't think he was going to be a big part of this film. He thought he was gonna do a little music. It was till he got the script. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:53] Speaker B: That Ryan sent me. [00:21:54] Speaker A: So I've got to say, as an artist, like. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker A: For the success of that film, I'm really glad he got such a crucial. [00:21:59] Speaker B: Yeah, he got. He got his shine. [00:22:00] Speaker A: And how often, without sounding really dramatic and how often do we see someone that's unknown get a part in a film written? Oh, yeah, Pretty much for them. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:11] Speaker A: That is purely off their talent. [00:22:13] Speaker B: 100. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Because let's be honest, it wasn't for his acting chops. You said it was his first acting role. Isn't it? [00:22:17] Speaker B: Acting gig. [00:22:18] Speaker A: Very first acting role. He didn't get the job for his chops. [00:22:20] Speaker B: No. [00:22:20] Speaker A: No one else could have played that role. He played all of the parts live so well. And not to be the. The annoying musician, but I could see, obviously, even if they overdubed. But he was definitely playing that guitar. [00:22:29] Speaker B: Oh. 100. [00:22:30] Speaker A: You know what I mean? His voice was exceptional. Like. [00:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:32] Speaker A: No. No one could have done that. And to see a young artist get his flowers who was otherwise unrecognizable before this film. Really happy for that. That was really cool, actually. And props to Ryan Coogler for doing that and Warner Brothers, I guess, because that's a big risk to throw on, you know. And then getting the likes of Buddy Guy at the end, like that was the way they tied that up with the scratch down this. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:22:52] Speaker A: Didn't see that coming. That was really cool. Yeah. I mean, I just. I really enjoyed it, but I'm just ready to be. For you to just exit. [00:23:00] Speaker B: Well, that's what I mean. Because it's such as you like to. When you finish something as well. [00:23:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:05] Speaker B: You go straight to YouTube and go. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Straight to new rock stars. [00:23:08] Speaker B: What's all the stuff that I missed in this film? [00:23:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:11] Speaker B: And go look. And it wasn't after I went, how did I miss all of that? [00:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:15] Speaker B: That was so obvious. First point is on it, Remic. They said that now people worked out. Ryan Cougar confirmed it. He's over 1200 years old from Ireland. And the point was that they said. [00:23:28] Speaker A: I got that from the coins. [00:23:29] Speaker B: Not only for the. Well spotted. But not only the coins. That he said that when Sammy was doing the Lord's Prayer at the end. And he said that those words were forced upon me. And he's talking about someone did this the time for it. Yeah. When they invaded Ireland and to make him become Catholic, whatever. At that time. Yeah. And that was 1200 years ago. So we know he's been around since then. And he's actually not like a racist at all. Because when he first goes to the door of those two white people. [00:23:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:23:55] Speaker B: In the very first opening scene, he doesn't call them like red Indians or whatever. Like derogatory term. [00:24:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:01] Speaker B: Use it. I think he says chickat or what. But uses their. [00:24:03] Speaker A: The tribe. [00:24:04] Speaker B: Their actual name. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:24:05] Speaker B: And he isn't till he clocks the. The clan garb. So he's like, okay, I need to pretend. I need a dial up and be like, oh, oh, these, you know, whatever engines that they say are trying to kill me. So he's. That's why. Also, he's taken back why when he says your clan. And he's like, sir, we don't believe in all that. You know what I mean? And he tries to. [00:24:26] Speaker A: And ironically, I don't know whether it was a vampire thing or not, but it was all like, we're all the same. Like. [00:24:30] Speaker B: Yeah. But also because of the shared memory thing. Yeah. Because he's seen all the black people. He's just recruited like 40 black people. [00:24:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:24:39] Speaker B: So he will have. [00:24:39] Speaker A: That's what I mean. [00:24:40] Speaker B: Feeling all their emotions and pain. So he fully understands. [00:24:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:44] Speaker B: That's how. That's why he. [00:24:45] Speaker A: Obviously at that point, for me, as a first viewer, I didn't know they could share each other's memories because I was trying. Obviously. I don't watch a lot of like, vampire stuff, apart from what we do in the shadows, because all of the, like vampire stuff that we get in pop culture in the last 20 years has been like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. [00:25:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Twilight vampire trash that I've never Been a fan of. But what we do in the shadows is obviously riddled with vampire lore. So the stuff like them not being. They're not allowed to come into the building. [00:25:11] Speaker B: I was going to ask, did you know that? Because I only know that because Dan watches Vampire Diaries. I was well aware. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:16] Speaker B: When Mary pulls up to the door and was saying to Cornbread, you're going to let me in? He's like, sorry, Mary, come on in. I knew then, oh, this could be a. A big part of this movie. [00:25:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:27] Speaker B: That he's stuck in the doorway of that scene and not going to let him in. [00:25:31] Speaker A: Yeah. It was when she did that. Then I recalled you were, like, doing it the first time. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:36] Speaker A: Because he was like. He wasn't asking for anything. He was just saying, let me in the house. [00:25:40] Speaker B: You just let me come in. [00:25:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:41] Speaker B: But they're saying as well how. And I. And I didn't realize until they realized they shared memories. When he pulls up and they're singing. [00:25:48] Speaker A: Pick Boy Robin, they all know the songs. [00:25:50] Speaker B: And they know the songs. I was like, that is so convenient that these two people know both how to play a banjo and also can sing. And obviously, it's just. He knows how. [00:25:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:59] Speaker B: So when he gets them, they know how. Like, if you're a vampire. [00:26:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:02] Speaker B: You get. You get bit. You bite me. I can now play keys. [00:26:06] Speaker A: That's pretty sick. [00:26:06] Speaker B: Because I've just got your abilities. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:08] Speaker B: And all your memories and everything has now been shared with me. So that's why he said I was here for Sammy, because he wants Sammy's music. Sammy's abilities. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:18] Speaker B: That's who I want. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Because he's generational talent. [00:26:20] Speaker B: Generational talent. But, oh, there's so many things also. I didn't realize this in the first time until someone has to point it out. But, you know, the seven deadly sins that are in the Bible, like lust, gluttony, whatever. Each of them are displayed in one of the characters. So, like Pearlene, you know, Sammy's girl, the one who was singing. She's lost. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Well, Smoke is obviously cheating on her husband. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Smoke is. Oh, I can't remember any of the seven deadly sins. But, you know, because his whole thing is power. [00:26:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:49] Speaker B: And then greed. [00:26:50] Speaker A: Is it not greed? [00:26:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it'd be Greed. And then Slim was Gluttony, because obviously he's drinking so much weather. [00:26:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:57] Speaker B: So they all perfectly represent one of the seven deadly sins, Hence why it's obviously called sinners. [00:27:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:02] Speaker B: And fits that so perfectly. Also, the very first scene that you See, Remick, when he comes in, he comes into the frame from above, like he drops in from the sky below. And they were saying how in the Bible, he's saying when Luther was cast out because he was the Lord of, like, music. That was his bag. Whatever. [00:27:24] Speaker A: He came from heaven. [00:27:24] Speaker B: He came down from heaven and was cast down and said that was meant to sort of. What's the word? Symbolize that he was falling down, like he was cast out of heaven. And obviously then the same reason why he's meant allure with music, like the devil did. That's what Remick's whole bag was. And he did a phenomenal job. And you know the scene when he's doing. Oh, what's the song called? No country to Dublin. No, Something to Dublin. Rocky Road to Dublin. [00:27:53] Speaker A: I was gonna say. [00:27:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. When he's doing that one, he's all around him and he's singing and he's dancing. I was like, dear God, he's putting the work. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:28:00] Speaker B: Went on interview afterwards, he said he couldn't believe his look because he said he's been singing those Irish songs all his life. And he said he also did Irish dancing when he was a kid. He was like, this was made for me. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Well, I will say every. I mean, not to, like, preach Irish culture to you having Irish blood, but. [00:28:17] Speaker B: Please, as someone who's been in an Irish band for a long time and played Irish songs. [00:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah, please, go ahead. Very long story short, I always have a running joke that. I mean, my. My grandma's mum was from Mayo. And obviously, people cling on to mayonnaise. Yeah, yeah, exactly. People. Irish people don't like how people cling on to their Irish heritage. You know what I mean? But anyway, for the last 10 years, I've been playing all the Irish scenes, so I've had so much law just thrown at me. Well, anyway, Joe Keegan. Shout out Joe Keegan. Did you know he was, like, top 10 in the world for Irish dancing when he was a kid? [00:28:52] Speaker B: This I did not know. [00:28:53] Speaker A: No. [00:28:54] Speaker B: That's pretty interesting. [00:28:54] Speaker A: The point being is, like, it's a big part of their culture. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:58] Speaker A: That all of the kids do Irish dancing when they're growing up. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Has he seen this movie? Because you need to call him. [00:29:02] Speaker A: And, like, I 100% will be telling him to see this. [00:29:04] Speaker B: You should go watch it with him. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And actually, that reminds me, I was gonna say I really liked how. I mean, first of all, I was watching the film going like. Like, again, not to sound like, cringe or anything. But I'm really loving in the last like five years that, like, there's enough kind of pull for different cultures to make films about their culture. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:29:23] Speaker A: I mean, like, and, and like props to Black Panther because, like, I actually thought this is kind of like sacrilege, this. I actually thought the Black Panther first film was well overrated as a film, but I do. What was so insanely, like, powerful was obviously since that film came out, like, I mean, there's been insane stuff for the culture getting represented. That's great. But what I really enjoyed with this film was that like that at that point in America, obviously, like loads of Far East Asians built all the railways and everything. [00:29:55] Speaker B: Right. [00:29:55] Speaker A: You know, like, it wasn't just a lot of black culture. There was all sorts of like, well, let's call them immigrant culture at the time in America, you know, like Chinese. And there was like. And that scene, the. The one shot scene. [00:30:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:08] Speaker A: When they obviously go back on back in time and forward in time and what happened in the culture and stuff. But then there was like. There was even like Chinese dancers and stuff. [00:30:15] Speaker B: Yeah, there was. Yeah. [00:30:16] Speaker A: But I, I thought that, I thought that was really sick because obviously going into that film you wouldn't expect it to be loads about Irish culture, loads about Chinese culture. There was like. There was, there was. There was so much. It was representative of America at the time, definitely. And not just like, there's a melting pot of load. It was insane. It was really good. And. Well, that's only cringe. Exactly what probably America needs to watch right now in it. [00:30:36] Speaker B: But no, that's not cringe at all. Bang on. But I think that's why it's having a good reception for it because a lot of people are and a lot, certainly a lot of older people would have had parents or grandparents who grew up in this time and will remember a lot of this stuff. Yeah, loosely, I guess, Grandparents wise. [00:30:51] Speaker A: But yeah, but like, I mean, it's not as far away as we think, is it? No, I feel that film's based like less than 100 years ago and we're looking at it like it's. [00:31:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Unrecognizable time. These people still alive. [00:31:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:04] Speaker A: That were around at that time. Do you know what I mean? It's not that far away. [00:31:07] Speaker B: One other thing as well on it that you would not have noticed at all. [00:31:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:11] Speaker B: Well, maybe you did actually, but you didn't mention it yet. So I don't know, maybe if you didn't. The very unseen in 96 or whatever. When you see them pull up into Sammy's bar. Oh yeah, he owns on the mirror. You don't see Stack and Mary in the mirror because they're vampires. But you also don't see Sammy in the mirror as well. [00:31:29] Speaker A: Oh, I didn't see that. [00:31:30] Speaker B: So Sammy, we know didn't get bit at the end. [00:31:34] Speaker A: And he's old as. [00:31:35] Speaker B: And he's old. But the point is, unless he got. [00:31:37] Speaker A: Bit last week, like. [00:31:39] Speaker B: Yeah, but. Huh. [00:31:40] Speaker A: Unless he got bit the week before. No, but wouldn't age, would he? If he was. [00:31:43] Speaker B: The point was as well that even though he didn't get bit, we know that he chose the music. [00:31:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:49] Speaker B: And the point is that at the end. Well, hold on. Yes, well spotted. But when he pulls up to the church at the end, he doesn't come in until his dad says come in. [00:31:57] Speaker A: Oh. [00:31:58] Speaker B: So he stays behind even though he's not been bitten because he's chosen the music. And his dad said, you need to let go of this music. Cause the devil's gonna tap you on the shoulder. And it's saying, you know that I've heard Ryan Coogel talk about this exact story. Cause you'll know it as well about that famous story of the first person to sell their soul to the devil. I can't remember his name, but he was a guitar player in the 50s, whatever. [00:32:20] Speaker A: Oh God. I know exactly. [00:32:21] Speaker B: You know what I mean? And he's at a crossroads. And he was famously known as someone who could not play guitar. [00:32:26] Speaker A: But he loved Tenacious Deek. [00:32:27] Speaker B: Yes, Tenacious D. Yeah. Well, I guess they do a whole thing on that, don't they? [00:32:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:32:31] Speaker B: But he sells his soul to the devil and the next day he goes into the town and he plays guitar better than anyone ever seen. And he's saying that he said, you can have my soul, but. And you. And you'll get this talent as a partner for it. And they're saying that's basically what happened in this film. [00:32:47] Speaker A: There's also stuff based on Chuck Berry cat kind of thing, isn't there? [00:32:49] Speaker B: Yeah. So he's saying that he obviously chose the music. And at the end, that final scene where he's playing guitar in the church and he looks up, that's meant to be him looking at the devil and choosing that life. [00:33:00] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:33:01] Speaker B: And that's why he had so much success afterwards. I mean, he was already wicked talented, but he chose it. And that's why at the end stuck and Mary, don't kill him because he's already. He's Already on, like, the dark side, so to speak. Even though he's not a vampire. [00:33:15] Speaker A: But then they promise smoke that he wasn't gonna. He did touch him anyway. [00:33:19] Speaker B: They said that was the kind of. Ryan said that was a subtext underneath it, that he's already with the devil. Cause he chose music. He didn't go with what his dad said. And he said, I'm holding onto this guitar. [00:33:29] Speaker A: I also liked how he kind of hinted that the reason he chose that life because before it all went tits up for those few hours, was the happiest he'd ever been. And he kind of was trying to hold his eluding. I'd rather live those moments. [00:33:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is a slippery slope. [00:33:44] Speaker A: It's music, man. That's music, man. [00:33:45] Speaker B: That's a slippery slope. But they know that as well. Even if that didn't happen, that whole night didn't happen. They're all going to get killed in the morning anyway. [00:33:53] Speaker A: That's what. I really love that detail. Yeah. [00:33:55] Speaker B: Because the clan was going to show up in the morning and gun them all down anyway. So it's almost like they were already marked for death. [00:34:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:03] Speaker B: And that was going to happen. And there was loads of little things, like I noticed where Sammy and Stuck are driving there and he says, can I drive? And he goes, I'll let you drive on the way back. And obviously he does drive on the way back because. [00:34:16] Speaker A: Because he's on his own. [00:34:17] Speaker B: Because he's on his own. And stacks dead and smoke's gone. Also, it was a lot easier the second run now to remember everyone's names. And also it's so hard maybe get. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Smoke and stack the right way around. [00:34:28] Speaker B: It's. Yeah, maybe it's my English ear to try and understand sometimes what is being said where there's no conversations where. Especially where it's. [00:34:37] Speaker A: Because we're all used to subtitles now. I used to hate watching subtitles. Now I can't do without him. [00:34:41] Speaker B: But, like, when Slim was telling his story, I was like, the first time, I. I don't even know what he's. [00:34:46] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's deep south lingo, innit? [00:34:48] Speaker B: It really is. And the scene when he goes back to. [00:34:51] Speaker A: They call him a bayou bitch at some point. [00:34:54] Speaker B: It's when he first goes back to his bayou bullshit. [00:34:56] Speaker A: Sorry, Bayou bullshit is what it was. [00:34:58] Speaker B: When he first goes back to his. His kid's grave. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:01] Speaker B: And I was like, is this his, like, older sister? Is it? It wasn't, obviously, till they get, you know, down. Then you're like, oh, this is obviously not his sister. I mean, they're in the south, so. Yeah, well, yeah, they're moving a bit much, but. But it's clear. [00:35:13] Speaker A: Then also, can I say one thing? Because there was. I thought there was lots of imagery when. In the lovemaking and the lost scenes of biting. And that's one thing I spotted a few times. [00:35:25] Speaker B: You're a little bit of a. [00:35:26] Speaker A: There was actually just the vampire imagery because every time they ever showed anything like that, there was biting of the neck in the ears. [00:35:32] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's a good point, actually. But one thing I did notice in the cinema at the time is at the end when he sat on the floor and I can't remember what his Mrs. Name is called. [00:35:43] Speaker A: B15 from TVA. [00:35:45] Speaker B: That's the one when she's breastfeeding the kid and she says, put out that cig because I don't want to get any smoke on him. She isn't saying the smoke there, she's saying your character as smoke. Yeah, because his name's Elijah. Yeah, he's basically. [00:35:58] Speaker A: She calls him Elijah in that sense. [00:35:59] Speaker B: She calls him Elijah. She. I don't think she. I don't know if she calls him Smoke throughout the film. I think she calls him Elijah. But she calls Stack Stack. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Right. Yeah. [00:36:07] Speaker B: The Red Hat one. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:08] Speaker B: But I think the point is that she was basically saying, like, I don't want this character of Smoke on our baby. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:16] Speaker B: Jeremy. Which I love, because that's so clever that it's not just saying about the fag, the cigarette for any American listeners. [00:36:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it's what we call cigarettes. [00:36:27] Speaker B: It's more about the actual character of Smoke, which I just thought was so brilliant. And the audio in the background is. I've already been listening to this whole soundtrack and score. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:36] Speaker B: Non stop. Because it's beautiful. [00:36:39] Speaker A: I don't normally go back and listen to scores like that, but there was. [00:36:43] Speaker B: There's some bits you're like, I need to find that. [00:36:45] Speaker A: Well, it was more just. It was like. It was just sprinkled with. With, you know, like. Well, all. So many genres and that melting pot of cultures that, like. I do. Yeah. I will go back. [00:36:54] Speaker B: But also just the sounds as well on that where I like. It just wasn't sounds at the time. So there's a lot of obviously acoustic guitar and stuff. [00:37:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:37:02] Speaker B: But then the bit when the. Obviously when the. The barn goes up in flames and stuff. And apart from the electric guitar. [00:37:07] Speaker A: Sorry, the imagery of that bit we said at the moment. I turned to you at the time didn't we? [00:37:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:11] Speaker A: When they were all still playing, but the house was burning down. And even, like, the vampire's watching. What was he called? Smudge or whatever. The guy that was at the door. What was it called? [00:37:19] Speaker B: Cornbread. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Cornbread. I thought it was Smidge or something like that. [00:37:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:37:24] Speaker A: He was, like, still watching the front door, like, whatever. [00:37:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:37:27] Speaker A: But when it was. When the, like. Like the West Coast. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:32] Speaker A: 808. With the little cowbell in the. 808. [00:37:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:34] Speaker A: You know, well, the NWA kind of. [00:37:36] Speaker B: Cowbell and those guys, like, throwing dice and playing roulette and girls shaking batty in the kitchen as well. Like, it was so good. But my jaw dropped when the electric guitar comes in because it builds up in this massive crescendo. [00:37:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:50] Speaker B: Sounds beautiful. And you're like, that's great. And then a guy from Earth, Wind and Fire, what he looks like, I think it's what he's meant to be based on. [00:37:57] Speaker A: Just really looked like Boosie Collins, didn't he? [00:37:59] Speaker B: I don't know who Boosie Collins is. [00:38:00] Speaker A: But you do know who Bootsy Collins. [00:38:01] Speaker B: If you showed me a picture, I probably would. [00:38:03] Speaker A: The guy that was that then came back for all of the smoking out the window stuff. The. The silk sonic stuff. [00:38:09] Speaker B: Oh, that's who it is. [00:38:10] Speaker A: You know that. It's all real funky, you know, That'll be it. [00:38:12] Speaker B: That would probably be it. But that big purple glasses. But when they cut back, there was a lot of more modern and it. There was a sound that reminded me, ironically, of Jesus because it was a sound that sounded so. [00:38:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:23] Speaker B: Modern. [00:38:24] Speaker A: It's the 808. It was the electric drums. [00:38:27] Speaker B: And then when. When Remit comes back into the building, he goes, Sammy. [00:38:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:33] Speaker B: That was the heavy, like, grungy guitar. Distorted guitar that plays. [00:38:40] Speaker A: There was lots of imagery from just like gothic vampire stuff anyway, in the music. Like whenever they. You know, just general horror film stuff. Whenever a vampire had a moment, there'd be like a real, you know, in the music. [00:38:51] Speaker B: But after this. Now Jack o' Connell needs bags of roles and offers, I imagine. [00:38:56] Speaker A: Well, guess what. Well, you said he was in 28 years later. [00:39:01] Speaker B: Is it 28 years later? [00:39:02] Speaker A: That's what it said on Google. [00:39:03] Speaker B: Oh, I've not seen any of the. [00:39:05] Speaker A: I'm 90. Sure. I remember that. Well, either way, though, he's got a few films coming. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Top tier actor. And I think it's good that they cast someone who, especially to Americans, will not have a clue about. [00:39:14] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:39:15] Speaker B: And mostly to a Lot of Brits. [00:39:16] Speaker A: Is a bit of a niche British actor though. Anyway, I would say, I mean like you're saying like Danielle loves him off misfits. There's a whole generation of people that love him from a show that's not been out for. [00:39:25] Speaker B: Not forever. But everyone else in that show, like Dev Patel, Oscar award winning actor. Daniel Kaluuya, Oscar winning actor. There was loads of other actors in that show, I'm all forgetting now who've gone on to have massive careers. Nicholas Hoult, who've had massive careers and he hasn't. But until this. And you know, my brain is an encyclopedia of actors names. That's like my go to category and. [00:39:47] Speaker A: Quizzes and not where you put your keys. [00:39:49] Speaker B: And not where I put my keys for sure. And I just like, I didn't know really of him and I was so astounded. I just knew he was British. [00:39:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:56] Speaker B: A lot of Brits in this film do a great American accents. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Oh, well, they always say, don't they? The Brits can do American accents, but Americans can't do British accents. [00:40:03] Speaker B: Delroy, Linda, the guy who plays the harmonica. [00:40:06] Speaker A: Dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:40:07] Speaker B: His voice and everything. Slim. [00:40:09] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Yeah, his voice and everything. He's so well spoken as an articulate English gentleman. [00:40:16] Speaker A: What in everything else he does. [00:40:17] Speaker B: In everything else I've seen him in, and then this I couldn't picture. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Can you tell me where he. What other things I would know him in? Because I knew his face. [00:40:23] Speaker B: So I've seen him most famously, he's in an interview where a white guy's complaining that he can't say the N word. And he's like, so say it. [00:40:30] Speaker A: Is it him? [00:40:31] Speaker B: That's that guy. Is he that. [00:40:32] Speaker A: So say that guy. [00:40:32] Speaker B: He's like, no way. I'll say with it. He goes. I'm not gonna say. He goes, say it. You want to say it. So I'd say it. Yeah, that's like most famous. I thought you would just come to mind. [00:40:40] Speaker A: But he was giving me a Danny Glover vibe with his attitude. I mean, like, yeah, that's fair. And that generation of like, yeah, Demi. [00:40:46] Speaker B: Clover's probably a little older than him now. An American, but yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah. Oh, really? There's nothing else I could say in it apart, I'm sure that's all the law that I've got for that remix. 12 years old. 12 years old. 12, 1200 years old. And people saying, we need a remic origin story. I mean, you've got 1200 years of him. [00:41:03] Speaker A: I was Curious whether. [00:41:04] Speaker B: Love to see that there was a point because I've seen people were asking Ryan saying, dear God, give us a prequel. He's like, I'm not really thinking about it. [00:41:11] Speaker A: So I liked. There was a point in the film where I thought, oh, setting up for a sequel here. And it was when. When he sends Sammy off back to the church at the end. [00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:22] Speaker A: And he pulls out the crate of his old war. There was a point where I thought, oh, so a second one coming in. He's gonna go and hunt all the vampires or whatever. But I actually thought it was really. Not only was it a really cool scene. [00:41:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:35] Speaker A: But just like to bookend it a little bit. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:38] Speaker A: When all the clan people were going to turn up and then think they were going to clear one out and he just fucking butchered them all. That was. [00:41:45] Speaker B: It was very. [00:41:45] Speaker A: The way he did it. And then gets to. Well, not. Not gets to die, but then gets to like join his. [00:41:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:50] Speaker A: His baby and his girl and all that. But there was a point where I thought, oh, is it going to be sequel time? But this is the kind of thing. I trust Ryan Coogler to not just like take a fact check to make some kind of. [00:42:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:01] Speaker A: Like either sequel or prequel. But if they were going to do it, I would rather a prequel than a sequel. [00:42:05] Speaker B: A prequel be essential. But also. [00:42:06] Speaker A: Or at least in that world. You know what I mean? [00:42:08] Speaker B: Now is established. They can't go out daytime killed by wooden stakes. [00:42:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:42:13] Speaker B: And they invited in. I think he's a good enough writer where he can create something insanely good. And I don't even need like a remic origin story of whatever he was a farmer, whatever before. Just give us him different scenario, different place. There's enough time. [00:42:28] Speaker A: Well, even if it's like the Cloverfield kind of law. [00:42:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:31] Speaker A: Where they're like. They're really not sequels. [00:42:34] Speaker B: No. [00:42:34] Speaker A: They're just a chase. [00:42:35] Speaker B: The stories. No. [00:42:36] Speaker A: You see that guy going around Tick Tock at the moment that's been talking about the Cloverfield Law? [00:42:40] Speaker B: No. [00:42:40] Speaker A: Kind of blew my mind a little bit because I think I've seen them all. [00:42:43] Speaker B: I've seen them all. [00:42:44] Speaker A: But he was talking about. Because obviously. Is J.J. abrams in it? [00:42:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. [00:42:47] Speaker A: Like they're all parallel universes and stuff. And the one that had Chris o' Dowd and all those space. Yeah, yeah, that's the last one. Like just all this crazy stuff that I would have never even considered. [00:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:58] Speaker A: That there was so much hidden law to the Cloverfield film because you don't think that they were like, I really enjoyed 10 Cloverfield Lane. [00:43:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:05] Speaker A: And obviously the original one, Cloverfield is like. I think it's pretty iconic. [00:43:08] Speaker B: Surprise you even seen 10 Clofield Lane. [00:43:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great film, great film. [00:43:11] Speaker B: But because it's a. It's not a scary horror. [00:43:14] Speaker A: I don't like just like horror films that are just about horror. [00:43:17] Speaker B: You like something like that? [00:43:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a dark story. [00:43:19] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I say that the first. [00:43:21] Speaker A: I love an alien, two minutes. [00:43:22] Speaker B: I remembered when it started, there's two massive jump scares when he's in the church out of nowhere. [00:43:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:28] Speaker B: And I was like, that's gonna definitely just. [00:43:31] Speaker A: If I'd have not known that it was vampires, I would have pissed on my seat. [00:43:34] Speaker B: Yeah. I thought you jump at the bit. Especially when cornbread's like, asking for his money. [00:43:39] Speaker A: Oh, and then he jumps for his arm. Yeah. [00:43:41] Speaker B: And then he reaches out and he's like. Because there's also a very loud, like, screech. I'm not think you knew it was coming. [00:43:46] Speaker A: This is what I mean. Like, I am a bit of a. With horror films, but I'm not like bare jumpy and like. [00:43:53] Speaker B: No, I'm not saying you are. [00:43:54] Speaker A: No, I just, like, I just genuinely don't see the appeal to watching films just to be scared. No, but that's only like, people love roller coasters because they chase that feeling like, I'll go on a roller coaster, but like. Yeah, I ain't paying 100 quid to go and put towers, you know, I mean, facts. But. But yeah, fantastic film. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:12] Speaker A: I don't really know what else there is to say on that. [00:44:14] Speaker B: I don't know either. I think what you. [00:44:15] Speaker A: I will say. Sorry to interrupt, but you getting to see that on thunderbolts in one day. I'm very envious of that 24 hours because. Because obviously we've missed thunderbolts. [00:44:23] Speaker B: Rarely I'll ever see back to back bangers like that. [00:44:25] Speaker A: The MCU is back. You watched an original ip. Yeah, and an orig. Just an original. Original film. [00:44:32] Speaker B: Some good food. Nice chat about it. Once we went to go see Sinners and went, my God, those are two good films. [00:44:38] Speaker A: Totally. [00:44:38] Speaker B: So what rating are you putting that for your letterbox though, that movie? Because I'm sure you're gonna put like a, like War and Peace for a. [00:44:47] Speaker A: Well, it's more a case of like when I first got letterbox. So as we know, Liam makes lists for everything. Letterbox is his wet dream. [00:44:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:56] Speaker A: The first thing I did was I sat there for about an hour when I first got letterboxd. Went through all my favorite films, just giving them all five stars. But then I'm. Now I'm trying to be a little bit more. [00:45:03] Speaker B: Yeah, you've got to be more precious with them. [00:45:04] Speaker A: I can't give anything a five star. [00:45:06] Speaker B: No. I rarely give out five stars. [00:45:07] Speaker A: Well, I think I'd want to watch it twice before I do a rating. [00:45:10] Speaker B: I think you'll enjoy it. I mean, you should go with Lilz, because I think she would really. [00:45:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:45:14] Speaker B: And you can do what I did. [00:45:15] Speaker A: First half, I was thinking, you know, because I knew you'd seen it, and the end was amazing. That's all I knew. [00:45:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:23] Speaker A: It was halfway. I was thinking, this is a slow burn of this. [00:45:26] Speaker B: There's a. You know what? [00:45:26] Speaker A: I was enjoying the world building. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a big build. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:29] Speaker B: And then the second they've gone and they've gone and got. [00:45:32] Speaker A: It was. Second Remic turned up. [00:45:33] Speaker B: The second Remit turned up, I was. [00:45:34] Speaker A: Like, the film starts. [00:45:35] Speaker B: He was like, now we've begun. You need all that stuff so you know who they are. [00:45:39] Speaker A: And I like world building. I like world building. I was not going to complain. [00:45:43] Speaker B: No, sure. [00:45:44] Speaker A: But in that moment, I thought, Lilz is really gonna take a tough sell on this. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Oh, really? Like, okay, he's got to get the sign made. [00:45:51] Speaker A: Well, she'll just be like, what's happening? [00:45:54] Speaker B: But I think if you can go shut up and listen and watch it. I think at that point, like you said, for me, it's so much more enjoyable the second time. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:01] Speaker B: And I said I could really listen to what was going on, hear the music differently. [00:46:06] Speaker A: I'd want to see seep in all of the actual lore and details. [00:46:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:11] Speaker A: Because like I said, because I knew there was vampires coming. It was. Considering that was the only detail I know, I almost wish I didn't know it as well, because I was just constantly trying to work out, like, who's. [00:46:19] Speaker B: Going to be going. [00:46:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was more a case of, like, you know, when you get something like vampires or some kind of mythic beast that you know about through other things in culture. You're always trying to work out, like, yeah, what's the special thing about these? Are they just vampires? What's the other twist? You know, like, that's why I was constantly trying to think, is there a clan element to it? Are they racist vampires? Are they, like, you know. Well, I think I honestly thought at one point it was going to Be like, the clan are vampires. You know, that would have been a good twist. But I thought they were just hunting people of color. I don't know, like. Cuz again, that's what I mean. The point where before I was going to call him Smidge again. [00:46:54] Speaker B: Smidge. Cornbread. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Cornbread. Before they turned him, we hadn't seen them turn any black people. [00:46:59] Speaker B: No, it's a good point. You went. I heard you order. We go, oh, like, oh, they're turning. [00:47:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So they're not like, you know, they ain't pick it. You know. But there was a point where they still. The. The Chinese couple are still in there. And it was before they turned the. The dad. [00:47:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:14] Speaker A: The husband. I was thinking like, yeah, they ain't black, they ain't white. Are they gonna go for them? When I was still thinking that they're trying to just pick them. Because I thought there was going to be some kind of race element to it. But to be fair, it was better that it wasn't because I said the memory thing of them having understanding of. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Each other's culture, it was almost. [00:47:31] Speaker A: That was a lot cleverer. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Sympathetic. When he says to me, it'd have. [00:47:33] Speaker A: Been a bit tacky, wouldn't it? Let's be honest. [00:47:35] Speaker B: It would have been a bit cheap if they just. If they're just villain to villain take. It's no depth. Depth. [00:47:39] Speaker A: But yeah. Because when vampires is a bit like. [00:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:42] Speaker A: It's like sharknado vibes in it. [00:47:43] Speaker B: Very much so. But when he was said to Mary, when he was like. When she said to buried her mother yesterday and he was like, I really wish I could have saved her. You don't get a sense he's being facetious. Word of the day. Thank you. [00:47:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:55] Speaker B: He was actually meaning like, I really wish I could have given her this eternal life. So he was actually. [00:48:00] Speaker A: They believed, didn't they? That's whatever they turned. They were like enlightening. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Exactly. That. It was not like he was doing it because he wanted to scran humans. [00:48:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:09] Speaker B: And be evil. His thing was more. I'm at peace. I'm really happy. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:13] Speaker B: I want that for you as well. Because you're hurt. That's what made it so great. Because he was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna save you. Yeah. [00:48:19] Speaker A: And he meant it. I think he meant it. And the thing is like with the. The TVA girl. I'm just gonna call TVA girl. I can't remember, really Sorry, I can't remember her name. And she was actually really, really Good in this as well. That's the first, like, major role I'd seen her in, and she was fantastic. But when she was kind of talking about, like, vampires are different. Like, their soul is there, but it's kind of trapped. [00:48:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:39] Speaker A: Like, I still couldn't really grasp until the last scene when it was in the 90s. [00:48:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:43] Speaker A: Are they really themselves? [00:48:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:45] Speaker A: And if they were, sign me up. I'd love to be a vampire like that. [00:48:50] Speaker B: You be careful now. [00:48:51] Speaker A: I would. [00:48:51] Speaker B: You be careful. [00:48:52] Speaker A: Ain't go signing any devil deals. Don't you worry about that. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Good. [00:48:54] Speaker A: But I just mean, like, if you could turn all your loved ones, I totally get that. [00:48:57] Speaker B: No pain. [00:48:58] Speaker A: The whole point of, like, Wolverine and all the characters we know that have lived forever, they're always lonely as hell. [00:49:03] Speaker B: True. [00:49:03] Speaker A: But, like, you watch what we do. In the shadows, he turns his wife. Just him and his wife living forever. [00:49:08] Speaker B: It's very true. [00:49:08] Speaker A: I'd love that. [00:49:10] Speaker B: I wouldn't love that. But I hear what you're saying. [00:49:12] Speaker A: If they retain themselves. Yeah, that's what I meant. [00:49:15] Speaker B: No, I totally get that. And it's. Oh, there's one more thing I was gonna say on it, but. Yeah, just go. What? I mean, it's not incentive for much longer. So I'd say when you and Lil's can. [00:49:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:24] Speaker B: But when you're both off on certain days, you've got to go to. [00:49:26] Speaker A: It's tough now because I want to watch Thunderbolts again. My mom and family want to watch that. Oh, it's already pretty much all going, isn't it? [00:49:33] Speaker B: So. [00:49:34] Speaker A: So that. Maybe that solves that one. But I really want to see Mission Impossible. I'm a sucker for the Mission Impossible bridge. [00:49:38] Speaker B: Was actually asking, saying, can we go watch it? So do you want to watch it together? [00:49:41] Speaker A: Absolutely. I've been re watching them with Lilz, and she's actually loved them because obviously Lilz is a filmmaker. Like, yeah, people can have opinions on the Mission Impossible films, but when it comes to action, they're excellent. And I know Tom Cruise. We've spoke many times about that. Man is a fishy character, but he. [00:49:58] Speaker B: Is such good movies. [00:50:00] Speaker A: But he's Mr. Action. [00:50:01] Speaker B: No one runs like, oh, my God. [00:50:04] Speaker A: He'S just elite, isn't he? Like, I know. How many times have we said, it's so hard to know that he's got that weird side to him? Because I really want to love him so much. [00:50:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I do. [00:50:15] Speaker A: Kanye up in this studio, that separate man from the art. [00:50:18] Speaker B: Tom Cruise is like, what's your Favorite mission possible. Can we say at the same time. [00:50:24] Speaker A: These two. I'm not gonna split. [00:50:26] Speaker B: Go on. [00:50:27] Speaker A: It's Rogue Nation and Ghost Protocol. [00:50:28] Speaker B: Ghost Protocol's my favorite. [00:50:29] Speaker A: Ghost Protocol, let's be honest. It's probably the best one. Rogue Nation's the one with the Henry Cavill fight scene. [00:50:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:35] Speaker A: And that's one of the best. I walked out going, I don't think I'll ever see a better fight scene in my life. [00:50:39] Speaker B: Have you seen. And it's on the trailer, and I don't understand how no one picked it up until there's. I saw a YouTube channel cover it. The scene where he's in the bathroom and he, like, chucks his fist. That's a split shot. He's wearing a jacket. He's wearing a. He's got a tip pocket going on on the other frame. He doesn't. That one shot, they cut together. I don't know why his beard's even a little bit longer than one of them. I'm telling you. After this, go back. [00:51:06] Speaker A: One of the most iconic little, like. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Google Henry Cavill arm reload or whatever, and go slow, and you'll see. I don't know how they did so seamlessly. Didn't go, let's shoot it again. He goes like that. His beard's either a little longer or shorter. [00:51:19] Speaker A: And his pocket's not him flicking. And he's like hair knocking about. [00:51:23] Speaker B: It'll blow your mind when you see it. So mad. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Well, that's gonna really break my heart because that's one of the, like. Yeah, that was the moment where I thought, Henry Cavill can play. [00:51:30] Speaker B: It's very cool. [00:51:31] Speaker A: Like. Yeah, he's not the Spim Spam, like, clean, polished Superman guy. [00:51:36] Speaker B: No. You can play someone a little tougher. [00:51:37] Speaker A: You know, at that point I thought. Actually, I think he could play Bond very well. [00:51:40] Speaker B: Yeah. But they shoot. They shoot it very carefully where it doesn't look like he's gonna be foot and a half taller. [00:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:47] Speaker B: Because there's bigger height disparity between them two than me and you. [00:51:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:50] Speaker B: Because Tom Cruise is probably a little bit taller than you. But Cavill's definitely. [00:51:54] Speaker A: I don't know, he might not even. [00:51:55] Speaker B: Be, like five' five, but Cavill's like. I think he's six' three. Do you know what I mean? [00:51:59] Speaker A: A God of a man. [00:52:00] Speaker B: He is bloody gorgeous. [00:52:01] Speaker A: And, you know, even though it would be kind of. [00:52:03] Speaker B: No pause. [00:52:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Even though it would be almost cliche for him to be James Bond. [00:52:12] Speaker B: It is. [00:52:12] Speaker A: It really is. [00:52:13] Speaker B: Who else is Gonna do it. [00:52:14] Speaker A: I'd fucking love to see it. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Who. Who else could do it? It's gonna be someone, like, before he gets too old. [00:52:18] Speaker A: I just hope it doesn't go to Aaron Taylor Johnson or someone now. I really did. It would be good, but I'd rather give. Daniel Craig at the time was a bit of a niche. Niche actor. [00:52:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:27] Speaker A: You know, he had like a. Some pretty cool classic film, which I like. I'd want someone like that. And all of the people that would love to see Bond right now are all too old. [00:52:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:35] Speaker A: Yeah, for me. But anyway. [00:52:38] Speaker B: Anyway. Should we move it on, then? [00:52:39] Speaker A: Let's move on. Can we just quickly have a little chat about thunderbolts? [00:52:43] Speaker B: Check what time we're on and then let's have a little chat about thunderbolts first. You've just blocked my. My shot. Okay, that's all right. Am I. Am I still good on this one? We ain't cutting any of this out for the sake of effort. [00:52:58] Speaker A: So you're all good. [00:52:59] Speaker B: I hope you enjoyed this. [00:53:00] Speaker A: No, that's absolutely fine. Let's have just a couple of minutes because. And the reason I'm saying this is because I know we were going to avoid touching on stuff that we'd missed because we missed so much. [00:53:07] Speaker B: Pause. [00:53:09] Speaker A: That's it again. [00:53:10] Speaker B: Go on. [00:53:11] Speaker A: But the MCU is back. [00:53:12] Speaker B: The MCU is back, baby. [00:53:13] Speaker A: We've missed, like. [00:53:15] Speaker B: But the. The. The. Someone did a chart for it. The MCU since Endgame has been on, off, on, off, on off. Good, bad. Good, bad. We're due for Fantastic Four to be bad. [00:53:24] Speaker A: It can't be. [00:53:25] Speaker B: No, it can't be. I think this is the one that breaks it. I do think this is the one that breaks it. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Yeah, but. [00:53:30] Speaker B: And I hate how this made very little money, though. [00:53:33] Speaker A: It pisses me off. Do you know what it reminds me of? [00:53:34] Speaker B: Pulling out of cinemas because it's not performing well enough. And that really annoys me. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Do you know what it reminds me of? Do you remember when. After the Star wars newest trilogy. [00:53:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:41] Speaker A: Where it was that garbage. [00:53:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:43] Speaker A: That they made the Han Solo film. [00:53:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:46] Speaker A: And it flopped. [00:53:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Nobody saw it, but it was fucking brilliant. [00:53:51] Speaker B: Great movie. Great. [00:53:51] Speaker A: That's what it reminds me of. And that's the reason my favorite movies. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Didn'T make any box office. [00:53:55] Speaker A: That's the reason why we got the Obi Wan series so late. It was supposed to be a film. [00:53:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:00] Speaker A: And it nearly got canceled. Yeah, but that's why. Because that Han Solo film, I mean, the stuff they were setting up for Darth Maul and all. It would have been sick. [00:54:06] Speaker B: Would have been. [00:54:07] Speaker A: It actually would have been sick. And that and Rogue One are two of the best things that Star wars have done since Disney bought it. And they're obviously they're probably two of the lowest performing financially grossing wise. But. But anyway, it reminded me of that. It was like the MCU's back and nobody watched it. [00:54:21] Speaker B: Yeah. We've never seen such interesting topics covered, like mental health. [00:54:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:28] Speaker B: We're done in such a good way. I know MCU gets a lot of. [00:54:31] Speaker A: I don't know, you know, I think the one thing that Lilz has brought to light a little bit more for me and. And me watching it again second time, everything with her. [00:54:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:40] Speaker A: I've always thought the MCU tackles grief incredibly well. [00:54:43] Speaker B: Grief. I would say that's a good point. [00:54:45] Speaker A: A lot of like mental health stuff. I mean, you got to think like In Iron Man 2 or 3, I think it was having panic attacks. [00:54:52] Speaker B: True. This is a good point. [00:54:53] Speaker A: I mean, like, I think they. I've always thought they've actually done really well at that and wonder the stuff that like Wanda's mental health and stuff. Fantastic. [00:55:00] Speaker B: That's fair. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Obviously for the whole film to be about something as complex as effectively bipolar. [00:55:05] Speaker B: It is. But it's also that none of them, they all feel like they weren't good enough or they missed a mark. And that's the whole point that they're misfits. [00:55:11] Speaker A: They all had the skeletons. [00:55:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they all had. They've done bad things. They all thought they were bad people. [00:55:15] Speaker A: Yeah. And the fact that only people around you can get you out, that you can't get your like self out of it. [00:55:20] Speaker B: No, true. But I think it's well that they just had really. They're all written with such good depth. I think the MCU gets a lot of slack because they know a lot of the male dominated audience hates to see women as their protagonist. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:55:33] Speaker B: But she was, she was seeing this. That people saying, it's not that they're women. I don't believe this. They're saying it's not that they're women, it's that they're poorly written women. They said we don't care about. [00:55:43] Speaker A: But that's always been a problem in it. Yeah, yeah. The character was. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Paul Ritter was bought. [00:55:48] Speaker A: Well, that's the classic though, isn't it? Because the she Wolf. She wolf was gonna call it. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:52] Speaker A: She Hulk in the comics, she's one of the biggest characters. She Hulk. I remember growing up and she Hulk was everywhere. [00:55:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:55:57] Speaker A: But it was the character in the series that was shit. [00:56:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:00] Speaker A: And let's. Let's be real. Like, that's been a classic thing in cinema for the last 50 years. They always write women to be the. Like the damsel in distress or whatever. So it's classic. So. And I think the kind of she benef. Yelena's character was kind of a nice continuation of the success of Black Widow. Because when Black Widow first came in, she was a little bit of the, like the. I don't even know what the word is for it, but, you know, like the pretty girl in the film that. [00:56:23] Speaker B: Everyone definitely was used for that reason. [00:56:25] Speaker A: And it was a bit cheesy and a bit lame. [00:56:26] Speaker B: They definitely were using that. [00:56:27] Speaker A: She was that much of a lovable character. [00:56:29] Speaker B: She had a bit of everything into scraps, hair blown out, done with like a half zip thing. [00:56:34] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:56:35] Speaker B: In stilettos. She's boxing, guys. [00:56:37] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Kicking. Yeah. [00:56:40] Speaker A: It felt like Yelena. [00:56:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:42] Speaker A: Took the best bits of Black Widow. [00:56:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:44] Speaker A: And left the cringe bits. And I loved that. [00:56:46] Speaker B: Definitely. But all the fight scenes we said in this. Beautiful, brilliant. [00:56:50] Speaker A: And again, because they were so real and obviously they made jokes about the old punch and stuff, but that one scene with Sentry where they all fight century in the end, Avengers Tower used to be. [00:56:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:56:59] Speaker A: That was fantastic. And I've never felt. Even when Thanos had the, like, the full glove. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:06] Speaker A: I still think that scene was sent to the first time I ever thought. [00:57:09] Speaker B: He's unstoppable. [00:57:10] Speaker A: Run away, people. He's unstoppable. [00:57:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Because, like, even if they had the treat, the. [00:57:15] Speaker B: The golden true, like cat, Iron man thought, oh, yeah, they're not doing anything to him. [00:57:19] Speaker A: Which is another clever thing. Why I think they were. The importance of Thor coming back. Because I think Thor's the only one who's got a chance. [00:57:23] Speaker B: He would be. Because if he throws Mjolnir at him, he can't stop it. [00:57:27] Speaker A: But then that's how he survive. [00:57:29] Speaker B: Would it just push him until he lets. If he moves away. [00:57:32] Speaker A: I don't know. But the other thing I was thinking as well is when you were talking about how clever the characters are, I mean, it's classic in it. One thing I want to acknowledge is since the writer strikes and Kevin Feige went into every. Let's call it, every office that was doing all the projects and went, stop, stop, stop, stop. Fucking reshoot that, reshoot that. And, like, basically realized how trash everything was and said, right. Pause everything. We're bringing out less stuff and we're gonna make it all better. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:54] Speaker A: Since that has happened, Daredevil's come out. [00:57:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:58] Speaker A: It was the best series we've seen in a while. Twas absolutely exceptional. [00:58:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:01] Speaker A: And even though you could tell a couple of times where there was, you could see where the reshoots were. They were brilliant. Like the Banks High scene that was clearly irrelevant almost to the story that we'd seen in the region. [00:58:10] Speaker B: We just wanted a cool episode, but. [00:58:12] Speaker A: Was such a sick episode. [00:58:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. [00:58:14] Speaker A: You know, and obviously we got the brutalness and like just the. The R rated elements that we would. We didn't think we were going to get Fantastic and then thunderbolts. That are two best things. We've seen the MCU for ages, so I think we're on a good run. Fantastic Four looks amazing. It really does look like it's going to be amazing. But it does kind of hold the balance, really, because it's the. It's the last film before Doomsday and we're all feeling so nervous about how much we trust Doomsday's capability of being as good as the end game and Infinity War and all that. But one thing I will say is like, that taking more time to actually perfect the character. John Walker, who thought we were going to come out of that film with John Walker being like a fantastic character. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. [00:58:57] Speaker A: And I saw Likable as well. Likable. [00:58:59] Speaker B: Likable. [00:59:00] Speaker A: And they said. I saw a few, like, a few podcasts talking about it recently. About, like, this is the problem with what the MCU is in at the moment. But. But I don't want to like, dig it too much because we're in that situation and it's more how they're going to cope with getting out of it. But like when we went into Infinity War, you know, like Captain America, let's say, was in so many projects and Iron man was in so many projects, blah, blah, blah. But like Captain America now, Sam Wilson, he's been in Falcon, Winter Soldier and the Captain America film in the last six years. [00:59:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:31] Speaker A: And he's supposed to lead the Avengers. We're going to go into the next Avengers film with no Avengers other than obviously the new Avengers, the one that started. And I've got more of a tie now to John Walker. That is Sam Wilson. Yeah, I don't really. I. I actually enjoyed the. The Captain America film. It wasn't perfect, but I thought Sam Wilson was great in it. [00:59:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:47] Speaker A: But like, I feel more of a connection to those thunderbolts characters. [00:59:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:52] Speaker A: Than I do to some of the main characters. [00:59:54] Speaker B: For the. Totally agree. [00:59:55] Speaker A: So there's still a lot of work to go. [00:59:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:57] Speaker A: And I'm obviously, as we're recording this, it's been pushed back a lot, hasn't it? And I'm pretty relieved by that. As we were saying last night, like, make us wait and make it better. Totally. I'll wait for that. [01:00:08] Speaker B: Is it mad at the end of Thunderbolts, he kept the taco shield. Yeah. [01:00:12] Speaker A: I wanted that explaining. [01:00:13] Speaker B: And then at the end when he's not like suits, he's still got the bent shield. [01:00:17] Speaker A: It's not like it's Vibranium. And he's like, well, I need to still use it. It's a God awful shield. [01:00:21] Speaker B: What's. It's not going to do anything because it's just a. Yeah. It's a curved shield. [01:00:25] Speaker A: I don't know whether it was to add to the element of the fact that they're clearly a joke maybe because I've got to say, apparently even throwing that, it won't. [01:00:32] Speaker B: It won't go anywhere. [01:00:34] Speaker A: It's like a fucking boomerang. Maybe it would because it's a boomerang. [01:00:36] Speaker B: Maybe it would. [01:00:37] Speaker A: But I do like how apparently Kevin Feige went in and was like, we need to make a point of the fact that no one's gonna take these seriously as the new Avengers. [01:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:44] Speaker A: So that whole credits of them kind of being a laughingstock. [01:00:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:48] Speaker A: I really thought. Did the film a favor because I'm not being funny. I don't know about you. If the last thing was ending on these being the Avengers, I'd have gone, no. Not having that. I'd throw my phone on the floor. Be like, you've just cheapened the whole thing. [01:00:58] Speaker B: Sure. [01:00:59] Speaker A: But then the way they did that thought very clever. [01:01:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:01] Speaker A: To be fair. [01:01:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:02] Speaker A: And I've got lots of theories of who is on that Fantastic Four jet. [01:01:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I've seen these. I think we should get to as close to the time. [01:01:09] Speaker A: I agree. [01:01:09] Speaker B: Close to the time. [01:01:10] Speaker A: But just a little curveball. This. This early with no explanation. Who do you think it is? [01:01:15] Speaker B: Well, I saw someone say, that might just be Franklin. They're trying to get him away from Galactus. Which would make total sense. [01:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's too predictable for it to just be the Four. [01:01:23] Speaker B: Maybe. Yeah. They might have. [01:01:25] Speaker A: And also like. And I know from the trailer alone we can see that basically it's going to go tits up for the final Fantastic Four. Surely they wouldn't just Whack the Fantastic Four in the end credits. [01:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah. They're gonna go, right. Yeah, let's dip. Because we're not winning this. He's massive. [01:01:38] Speaker A: Totally. [01:01:39] Speaker B: We're out. [01:01:39] Speaker A: And for sue to be pregnant in that film, surely for the next one we have Franklin. [01:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I don't think they should have ever done, but we'll see what they do. [01:01:47] Speaker A: I don't think they should have massively nerf him. [01:01:51] Speaker B: They have to. [01:01:52] Speaker A: But you remember in Infinity and Endgame. Last thing I'll say. Remember in Infinity, War and Endgame, they had to pull Captain Marvel out of the. The game. [01:02:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:00] Speaker A: Because she just would have cleaned everyone up. There's like a couple of people in that are going to be knocking around thunderbolts that are of that point. Never mind the fact that we've clearly just. They've almost deleted Secret Invasion from the. From the bin on their map. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Amelia Clarke with all the powers now she ain't turning up. [01:02:16] Speaker A: She can't. So clearly we're just gonna act like that never happened. [01:02:19] Speaker B: No, she's been hit by a car. [01:02:20] Speaker A: Exactly. But Sentry. Franklin Richards. Yeah, like God, Thor. [01:02:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:24] Speaker A: You know, Loki, That Loki, the way he's at the moment, like there's some real big boys, heavy hitters. So I really don't know how they're gonna do it. [01:02:31] Speaker B: I really don't either. [01:02:33] Speaker A: And I do think that that's why the first film is probably going to be Doom. Manipulating people to fight each other as opposed to fighting him. [01:02:39] Speaker B: I would love to see it. Well, people saying that there might even be a X Men. Avengers, like fight big time. Which makes total sense. [01:02:45] Speaker A: We saw Nightcrawler saying that. [01:02:46] Speaker B: Yeah, he did. [01:02:47] Speaker A: He just. You can tell he's been out of the game for a while because he just immediately dropped that he's gonna be fighting for Mr. Fantastic. [01:02:53] Speaker B: If this is the Thing, his first interview. It could be a big scrap where they're all like. Like Hawkeye in Avengers. Where the thing you find before it could. [01:03:01] Speaker A: When they first meet and they kick off for a second. [01:03:02] Speaker B: Could just be that I thought when. [01:03:04] Speaker A: The Guardians met spider man and Dr. [01:03:05] Speaker B: Strange and that was opening my mouth to say it. [01:03:07] Speaker A: Sorry. [01:03:08] Speaker B: That was exactly what I was thinking. [01:03:09] Speaker A: Yeah. It could well be. [01:03:10] Speaker B: They're filming at. Not Windsor Castle, obviously, but they are in London State in July that they're filming. They've put all the dates in. [01:03:17] Speaker A: Did you see all the Sentinels and X Men? [01:03:19] Speaker B: I did see this, but they're saying it's either going to be Doom's yard. Or it's going to be the X. [01:03:23] Speaker A: Mention or Battle World. [01:03:25] Speaker B: Or they might do a battle world thing. [01:03:26] Speaker A: I don't know. Are you right though? Let's. Let's talk about that closer. [01:03:28] Speaker B: Let's find out when we get there. [01:03:29] Speaker A: So because we had a guest drop out on us today, we wanted to put together and again we could have held off and trying to do a perfect comeback, but it's not how we roll. We would much rather just come in. We're missing too much. [01:03:41] Speaker B: This is what people prefer to see. [01:03:43] Speaker A: Exactly. And ironically we prefer these episodes in a way, don't we do. So really what we wanted to do for the. For like another maybe 20 minutes, half an hour, we wanted to do some goat talk. [01:03:51] Speaker B: Let's do goat talk. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Because we do a lot about talking about our goats, don't we? [01:03:54] Speaker B: We do. And I left my iPad over there and I'm not even gonna bother. Go get it. [01:03:58] Speaker A: Did not. [01:03:59] Speaker B: So you might as well read them all out. [01:04:00] Speaker A: Fuck it. Why not? [01:04:01] Speaker B: Because. Might as well. Okay, this is maybe a quick. Like a first thing comes to mind. [01:04:05] Speaker A: Brief explanation if you're really passionate about it. [01:04:06] Speaker B: Brief explanation if you're really passionate. [01:04:08] Speaker A: Okay, so first of all, we've got goat movie that changed your life. [01:04:12] Speaker B: Do you want me to go first or. You go first. [01:04:14] Speaker A: I asked you. You go first. [01:04:15] Speaker B: Okay. All right, sass boy. You know what I'm gonna go for? Only because of the time it came out in 08, Dark Knight. [01:04:24] Speaker A: Only. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Cause you know that I'm a big spider man. Batman and my two goats as I was growing up. [01:04:28] Speaker A: Okay. [01:04:28] Speaker B: And I think that was the first super movie. I remember going to the set because I was too young to go see Tobey Maguire in the cinema. [01:04:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:34] Speaker B: But maybe I saw the third one in the cinema. I can't remember. But that was the one that I watched at the time. I remember at Stockport Cinema. Really remembering well and going, that's. That is going to change my life. That fair. So I think that's. That's my answer. [01:04:48] Speaker A: Great answer. [01:04:49] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:04:49] Speaker A: And for me I've got obviously just like you loads. And there's lots of times I can specifically remember at the cinema. But I'm going to go. Inception. [01:04:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:57] Speaker A: Great reception was the first film I watched and I think it was 09.09 or 10. I was, let's say I was. Oh, 10. I think it's 10. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:04] Speaker A: So I was 12. [01:05:05] Speaker B: 12. [01:05:05] Speaker A: But it was the first time where I watched a film that was so intellectually mind blowing. [01:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:05:11] Speaker A: And I was like, oh, 10 year. [01:05:13] Speaker B: Old you would not know what's going on. [01:05:15] Speaker A: No. But I remember 12 year old me being very proud of myself that I wasn't. I. I understood it. [01:05:19] Speaker B: Air in the dreams. Yeah. [01:05:20] Speaker A: But you know, I remember when that came out and everyone was like, I needed two or three times to watch it. The fact that I kept up with it and I was thinking not to sound cringe, but I really did fall in love with films a little bit. [01:05:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:31] Speaker A: Like it was a big family thing. We always went to cinema. But that film, like. [01:05:34] Speaker B: Good answer. Next one. We kept that quite short. [01:05:36] Speaker A: We did. Yeah. [01:05:36] Speaker B: Go on. [01:05:37] Speaker A: Goat performance in a film. [01:05:39] Speaker B: There's just a million. [01:05:40] Speaker A: There's just too many in there. [01:05:42] Speaker B: So many. And I don't even know where I would start with this. [01:05:44] Speaker A: The Heath Ledger joker springs to mind. [01:05:47] Speaker B: No. Could do that. [01:05:48] Speaker A: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna say a disclaimer that it's not my all time. [01:05:52] Speaker B: Go on. [01:05:52] Speaker A: But in recent memory, I think Timothee Chalamet as Duke of. Duke of Arrakis in Dune two. [01:06:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:00] Speaker A: Was like. I felt like. Yeah, yeah. I felt like I was. It was 1977 and I just watched Luke Skywalker for the first time. I feel like in 20 years time. [01:06:10] Speaker B: That's not blasphemous to say. That's not crazy to say. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Yeah. I think no one else could have done it like him. [01:06:15] Speaker B: I love that answer. [01:06:16] Speaker A: So heavy. You. [01:06:17] Speaker B: You know, I'm gonna go. And I'm gonna go. One actor, but two different films of opposing views. [01:06:24] Speaker A: Opposing views. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Him and Django. Christoph Watson. Django Christoph Watson in Inglorious. [01:06:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:06:30] Speaker B: Two polar opposites. [01:06:31] Speaker A: Couldn't be opposites. [01:06:32] Speaker B: Loves racism. The other one despises. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Hates it. [01:06:35] Speaker B: And I think just his. If I can group them together, I think that is perfection. [01:06:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:40] Speaker B: Because in one of them you go, God, I hate him. The other one you go as Dr. Schultz. You go, I love that character. [01:06:46] Speaker A: What an incredible. A generational generation double Oscar. Oh, yeah. [01:06:50] Speaker B: One for both of them. One is a villain. [01:06:52] Speaker A: Fantastic. [01:06:53] Speaker B: Both as a supporting actor. [01:06:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And we could have given them to. Given that answer to many. [01:06:58] Speaker B: But we could have done. [01:06:59] Speaker A: I'm pretty happy with those favorites. [01:07:00] Speaker B: Those are good. Next one. [01:07:02] Speaker A: Now I'm thinking about it. Timothy Chalamet. I've just realized it's go. But anyway, I'm gonna. [01:07:05] Speaker B: That's a great one. But go on. [01:07:06] Speaker A: Go. Director Nolan. I completely agree. Nolan. [01:07:10] Speaker B: And he does everything great. [01:07:11] Speaker A: Straight up. We can keep this very short. Give him the bond Give him the Bond films. [01:07:15] Speaker B: He said he's interested. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Give him full reign. Apparently, he said, I'm only doing it if I get full reign from the estate. [01:07:19] Speaker B: They would be fools to go, oh, no, do this and do that. We need that in. [01:07:23] Speaker A: Let's let him do what he wants. Give Christopher Nolan complete free reign to reinvent James Bond and let him make 20 films. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And put Daniel Craig in a time machine. Or Tom Hardy. Like, put Tom Hardy in a time machine and make him Bond. Anyway, let's move on. [01:07:37] Speaker B: Next one. [01:07:38] Speaker A: So now onto music. Goat rap verse. [01:07:43] Speaker B: I could. We could do another whole. [01:07:44] Speaker A: We totally could. I've got. Are you ready? Because I've got one totally to mind. [01:07:49] Speaker B: You go first. I've got a couple I'm dancing between. [01:07:50] Speaker A: Personally, for me, my goat. Because it actually says that made you rewind it three multiple times. [01:07:54] Speaker B: Okay, go on. [01:07:55] Speaker A: But this one sticks in my mind forever. [01:07:58] Speaker B: Go on. [01:07:59] Speaker A: Goat rap verse. Life of the party, Andre 3000. [01:08:03] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a great one. [01:08:05] Speaker A: I've never. I've never heard anything like it. [01:08:07] Speaker B: No, that's a great one. [01:08:08] Speaker A: And in a genre like hip hop where there's been so many insane rap verses, whether it's like, whether the beefing, the criticizing other people making digs or, like, just talking about being, like, badass or whatever, that verse about, like, you know, if there's a heaven, why wouldn't they let you speak to your. Your daughter? And. Oh, it's just. [01:08:25] Speaker B: That's a great choice. [01:08:26] Speaker A: Unbelievable. [01:08:28] Speaker B: That's a really. [01:08:28] Speaker A: The fact. It's like a bonus track on one of Kanye's worst albums. Yeah, it's flawless. [01:08:34] Speaker B: That's a great one. I didn't even think of Kanye, but, my God, there'd be so many. You didn't even do. [01:08:38] Speaker A: And it's not even Kanye. This is what I mean. [01:08:40] Speaker B: You just said Kanye, but yeah, that you didn't do. Run away this great bars in that. [01:08:45] Speaker A: Pusha T's verse in Runaway. Oh, yes, we could. Like, we could do an hour on verses. [01:08:51] Speaker B: We really could. [01:08:51] Speaker A: But just tell me one of your favorites then. I know you're trying to think of a really clever one. [01:08:56] Speaker B: No, I'm not even trying to think of a club one. I'm trying to think of just the first one came. [01:08:59] Speaker A: I thought you said J. Cole, like Kevin's Heart or something like that. [01:09:02] Speaker B: Great one. But no, it might actually be Five Dog in Bugging out by Tribe Called Quests. It's the one that starts with the bass line. It's the Microphone check one, two. What is this? [01:09:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:09:13] Speaker B: The five foot roughness assassin with the roughneck business. Never had a cavity float like gravity got more rhymes than the wonder Scott family. The whole thing is red. Ridiculously good. And I know it's Pharrell's. He said his favorite tribe song. [01:09:28] Speaker A: An opening verse so many of like. Is that Q tips verse? [01:09:31] Speaker B: No, that served five dogs. [01:09:32] Speaker A: Oh, you said sorry. [01:09:33] Speaker B: And then it's. Then it's Q tips right after. But that it rolls so beautifully. It could also be shook ones. Part two. That mob deep opening one because only 19 years old. It could be NAS. New York State of Mind. There's so many. Because I could go through. [01:09:49] Speaker A: Well, I've got to just quickly say a couple more. [01:09:50] Speaker B: Go on. [01:09:51] Speaker A: I think Kendrick Lamar's King's dead of the Black Panther album. [01:09:55] Speaker B: I would have a hundred more where. [01:09:56] Speaker A: It starts speeding up and there's. There's a thousand Kendrick verses I could do. But that the. Because it's. The whole point is about me. [01:10:03] Speaker B: I'm dying with thirst. [01:10:04] Speaker A: Exactly. But the whole point is made you rewind it three times minimum when you first heard it. [01:10:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:10:08] Speaker A: I know we didn't actually include that, but that. Do you remember which exactly one? [01:10:11] Speaker B: I know what you talk about. [01:10:12] Speaker A: Nachi Father Naji. You know. Unbelievable. And then I genuinely. Ironically, the first other two that came to my mind were both Andre 3000. There's one in solo. The solo. The one. The one with James Blake on piano. [01:10:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:10:24] Speaker A: Unbelievable. And where's the catch with James Blake? Do you remember that one? [01:10:28] Speaker B: Oh, I'd have to hear it again. [01:10:29] Speaker A: That verse. When I first heard it, I remember rewinding it a few times. [01:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. There's some great ones, though. [01:10:34] Speaker A: Totally. [01:10:35] Speaker B: Go on. [01:10:35] Speaker A: Go album with no skips for me. [01:10:38] Speaker B: When you say no skips, you really have to take this word. Really? [01:10:41] Speaker A: No skip. [01:10:42] Speaker B: No skip. [01:10:42] Speaker A: No skips. [01:10:43] Speaker B: Not a single one. [01:10:44] Speaker A: You can have a. Prefer an album you prefer, but this has to be no skips. [01:10:48] Speaker B: Mine's actually a double album and it's not going to be a surprising one at all because you know how much I love this album. [01:10:53] Speaker A: Right. [01:10:53] Speaker B: And it is one that whenever I listen to it and in summertime especially, I hit shuffle. I know every song to every. Every word to every song. [01:11:02] Speaker A: Yep. [01:11:02] Speaker B: And it's got a ton of tracks on it. And it's obviously songs of the key of life. [01:11:06] Speaker A: Fair play. [01:11:07] Speaker B: Because every single song is beautiful. Some of them are big songs, party hits. [01:11:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:13] Speaker B: And others are more relaxed. Like if it's magic. And they're all gorgeous. [01:11:17] Speaker A: Timeless. [01:11:18] Speaker B: Timeless. [01:11:19] Speaker A: I'm gonna be dead boring and say, my beautiful dancers, as always. [01:11:22] Speaker B: Even the skits. [01:11:24] Speaker A: Yeah, they're no skips. [01:11:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Fair. [01:11:26] Speaker A: No, the R doing your skits. [01:11:27] Speaker B: I knew. I say Chris Rock. [01:11:28] Speaker A: Unbelievable. I mean, even. Who will survive in America? Yeah. Yeah. Well, who will survive in America? I referenced that the other day in a session with an artist, like, because we were putting bongos in a tune or whatever, and there was a sample I found that it reminded me exactly of that. But even that whole poem over like. [01:11:42] Speaker B: Oh, you know what line I say so often is whenever. Don't know. Something I say. I don't know. The first thing that comes to mind is, I'm Yeezy. What the hell do I know? [01:11:50] Speaker A: Yeah, what the hell do I know? [01:11:52] Speaker B: I'm just a shout out with a nice flow. What a disgusting bar. [01:11:57] Speaker A: Unbelievable. Oh, but again, we've already spoke many times about how that album changed me as a producer. But no skips. [01:12:03] Speaker B: No skips. [01:12:04] Speaker A: And the reason I'm not gonna think about any other albums is because we'll be here all day. [01:12:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:07] Speaker A: Okay, so now, goat music video. I like that. [01:12:11] Speaker B: That is a great one. And were you saying for you, though, you're not saying the greatest music video of all time? Because that's. [01:12:15] Speaker A: No, your goat. Let's go. Your goat. Then. [01:12:19] Speaker B: You know, I'm gonna take a little. [01:12:20] Speaker A: Just a little look around. [01:12:21] Speaker B: I'm gonna take a scan around the room because I'll think of something. Then I'll text you at Tim and go, I was wrong. It's that. And you go, that is better. [01:12:27] Speaker A: Do you want a second to think? Because I've got a couple of Count Me out by Kendrick Lamar springs to mind. The N95 video springs to mind because a lot of Kendrick's newer stuff was unbelievable element from Kendrick Lamar. All of Kendricks are amazing. [01:12:41] Speaker B: All right. It's one of my favorite. [01:12:42] Speaker A: All right. [01:12:43] Speaker B: When he's, like floating. [01:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:44] Speaker B: And he's on the lamppost. [01:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:46] Speaker B: And yeah, that's a. [01:12:48] Speaker A: The other one I was gonna say was Far Far side drop. You know the reverse one. [01:12:53] Speaker B: Oh, I can't think of that one. [01:12:54] Speaker A: You do. When they're all Spike Lee did it, they've learned the whole thing in reverse. [01:12:59] Speaker B: Oh, like tenet. [01:13:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then another one for reverse because I was showing it some kids the other day that was teaching about music videos. The scientist by Coldplay. Do you remember that video? [01:13:08] Speaker B: I don't remember. The video is for Scientists. Big fat tune. [01:13:11] Speaker A: Oh, and. And it's another reason why it pisses me off that people don't give Chris Martin and Coldplay the credit they deserve, because it's so clever. The video starts and he's just in this town or whatever, and the whole song is in reverse. And again, he learned the song in reverse. So I was on an interview once and he, like, sang a verse in reverse and it was like, reverse in reverse. He sang it and it was, like, really weird to hear. But the story's being told backwards because obviously you hear the song and you're like, oh, this is sad. Oh, something's happened. What's happened? And the video is going backwards and he's walking backwards and he. And the. So the end of the video is obviously the start of the story and it's a car crash and he's like, partner dies. [01:13:47] Speaker B: Great choice. [01:13:48] Speaker A: It's just I'm watching it again recently. Yeah. Unbelievable. And then my other one was no Surprises by Radiohead. When he's in the fishbowl and the water's filling. I love that one. That's pretty iconic, too. But again, I could definitely come up with a few more if I had to. [01:14:01] Speaker B: I'm so drawn about. You know, I'm going to leave it as this is America for now because there's so many great references. [01:14:05] Speaker A: I am so pissed off because when I got the brief for these before. [01:14:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:09] Speaker A: I didn't read any of them. A music video came up and that was. And that was the first one. [01:14:13] Speaker B: I thought, yeah, no, that's a weird. [01:14:14] Speaker A: Video because culturally that, like. [01:14:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:16] Speaker A: And I remember Charlie Gambino saying when he made that, he was like, this might not go down very well. [01:14:20] Speaker B: Yeah. And I also like how he said there's loads of little references. And someone asked him interview and he was like, I ain't speaking on it. Like, yeah, it's up to you. Yeah, yeah, take what you will. And people said, this is a painting. This is obviously about this. [01:14:31] Speaker A: My shoe anywhere. Yeah. [01:14:35] Speaker B: Next one. [01:14:35] Speaker A: And the short film, Runaway short film. That was like 30 minutes. Fantastic. I want to make one of those in my life. And I've tried a few times. But anyway, now we're on to oh, go video game. That had you losing track of time. So just go video game. [01:14:52] Speaker B: This could be so many. [01:14:53] Speaker A: It's nostalgia as well, isn't it? [01:14:55] Speaker B: Might be one that I've put in an ungodly amount of hours in as a kid as well, and then replayed it not too long ago. Spider Man 2 PS2. [01:15:04] Speaker A: Oh, what a shout that is. [01:15:05] Speaker B: Because it's one where you endlessly can keep going because there's always a girl who's dropped a balloon. You need to go get out the sky. There's always someone beefing or a car chase. Even when you do the story missions, there's always more to do and complete. [01:15:16] Speaker A: Totally. [01:15:17] Speaker B: So that's a game I've put an ungodly amount of hours into. [01:15:19] Speaker A: Well, I'm gonna go for two. I'm go for one that's nostalgia based and one that's on. Well, ironically present or Red Dead 2. [01:15:25] Speaker B: Apologies because you can never complete Red Dead 2 either. [01:15:28] Speaker A: Great shout. [01:15:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:29] Speaker A: So I'm going FIFA Street. Yeah, two probably two is better. The soundtrack as well. And then what you are stood on the absolute basis of our friendship. [01:15:39] Speaker B: Oh, that's cute. [01:15:40] Speaker A: Call of Duty War Zone. [01:15:41] Speaker B: That's probably it. [01:15:42] Speaker A: It's. It's about losing track of time. We've definitely granted because it was covered and lockdown and all that we spent there was. I think we've genuinely gamed for over 12 hours on that game before. [01:15:51] Speaker B: In one. [01:15:51] Speaker A: Go on. In one. Go. [01:15:52] Speaker B: 100. We have. [01:15:53] Speaker A: There was a few times where we went on like early evening, like 8 and probably went to bed. [01:15:58] Speaker B: I agree. We definitely have caught zero wins. [01:16:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:02] Speaker B: A couple of nice ones in a. [01:16:03] Speaker A: Row in the early days. [01:16:04] Speaker B: In the early days we got three in a row once. We've done plenty of back to backs but go on. Next one. [01:16:08] Speaker A: Exactly. Go. Superhero. [01:16:10] Speaker B: Goat. Superhero. Spider Man. [01:16:12] Speaker A: Hey. Spider man it is. [01:16:13] Speaker B: Spiderman. You know the most. [01:16:14] Speaker A: Spider man and Wolverine. [01:16:15] Speaker B: I'm never going to actually the most most popular. I saw this graph of like most mentions, most money made, whatever it is. Spider Man. And then you know, the other two Man. [01:16:23] Speaker A: I'm imagining Superman's the other one. [01:16:25] Speaker B: Who's the other one? And Batman. Correct. In that order. Oh no, it's the other. I think it's Spider Man, Batman, Superman. In that order. They're the most famous three. But it's Spider Man. [01:16:35] Speaker A: But I've always thought that DC has the more iconic characters. [01:16:39] Speaker B: It does. Well, they. [01:16:39] Speaker A: But I've just always preferred Marvel's delivery. [01:16:41] Speaker B: Marvel actually ripped off. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:43] Speaker B: Almost all of those. Almost same names as well. And then just market them far better. Better. Yeah, for most of them. [01:16:49] Speaker A: But yeah, it's pretty easy answer, isn't it? [01:16:52] Speaker B: Spiderman. [01:16:53] Speaker A: I've just realized I've got a Spider man thing over there that was supposed to on the table. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Can you see my Miles Morales behind me? Just because you just watched it. You see him. [01:16:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:16:59] Speaker B: That cheap AliExpress. Like it doesn't look good, does it? From a distance? [01:17:02] Speaker A: I think it does. I've got to say, it's taking every inch of me to not blow all of my money on a PS5 and getting Spider Man Miles Morales and all that. But I know when I do say goodbye to my career. [01:17:14] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. [01:17:15] Speaker A: Because I'm just never gonna progress. [01:17:16] Speaker B: You won't see this podcast either. [01:17:17] Speaker A: No, exactly. [01:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's go on. [01:17:18] Speaker A: Next one. Goats. Oh, I don't like them. We're gonna run around. Goat sneaker. [01:17:27] Speaker B: I think it's probably what I've got on. I think it's probably the Jordan one. [01:17:30] Speaker A: For our audio listeners. [01:17:32] Speaker B: For our audio listeners. [01:17:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:33] Speaker B: 1985. [01:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:35] Speaker B: And I think it's such a symbolic shoe that's lasted for. I'm wearing them now in 2025. [01:17:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:41] Speaker B: And I think started so many shoes were designed trying to be the Jordan one and the icon that it was at the time. And that started off because it's such a timeless design. Where it looked good in the 80s. [01:17:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:52] Speaker B: Look good in the 90s and the 2000s. Now in the mid-2020s, it still looks as good as it ever did. Totally endless. Like you saw as well that in Miles Morales. He's obviously wearing the Chicago ones. [01:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:18:03] Speaker B: I think it has to be really. Or people say like the Air Force One or the Air Max one. It's night. It's a Nike shoe. It's not a special or anything. [01:18:11] Speaker A: I get that. [01:18:11] Speaker B: So it's a Nike shoe. [01:18:13] Speaker A: I'm gonna go a little bit less classic. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Go on in. [01:18:17] Speaker A: Because we could sit here and talk about all of them. [01:18:20] Speaker B: Certainly. [01:18:21] Speaker A: I'm gonna go with variants of the Travis. The Travis Scott Cactus Jacks. [01:18:24] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:25] Speaker A: The Cactus Jack Jordans. I'm a big fan of them. As you know. I've got two, three pairs. [01:18:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:30] Speaker A: But I. I think that they were a nice twist on the classic but then re heated the look of the game. Do you know what I mean? Like, they are pretty massive now. [01:18:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:40] Speaker A: And people that aren't massive sneak heads love them as well. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Sure. [01:18:42] Speaker A: I love anything. Cactus Jack, to be fair. [01:18:44] Speaker B: Sure. [01:18:45] Speaker A: And I'm gonna be a bit rogue and say for a classic one, I'm gonna say Chuck Taylor Converse. [01:18:49] Speaker B: That's like. No, that's a fair one. We've got 100 points in the Chuck Taylors. [01:18:52] Speaker A: Totally never change any. Is there any other shoes that have lasted 40 years in pop culture? They Never. [01:18:57] Speaker B: Chuck Taylor's are way old. In the 40s. [01:18:58] Speaker A: They're probably 60s, 70s, aren't they? [01:19:00] Speaker B: They are. They are. Will do it in the 50s. So they are. [01:19:02] Speaker A: They're old. [01:19:03] Speaker B: They're like 80 years old. [01:19:04] Speaker A: Obviously, they will have been more popular at times, but I don't think that shoe ever became unpopular. [01:19:08] Speaker B: No, it didn't. [01:19:09] Speaker A: I remember being a. I. I remember getting them from Cyprus when I was 10. [01:19:11] Speaker B: I respect that. I've never paid the design either. [01:19:14] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. There's obviously variations, but you're absolutely right. The lows and the highs. [01:19:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:18] Speaker A: I literally bought the Tyler Crater ones the other week. [01:19:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:22] Speaker A: I wore them last night. [01:19:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:23] Speaker A: And even though they've got a different design, they're still just low. Converse. [01:19:26] Speaker B: Yeah. No one respect it. [01:19:27] Speaker A: So I. I think commerce deserve a bit of love there. [01:19:29] Speaker B: No, I think it's a great answer. [01:19:32] Speaker A: Go athlete. This is gonna be tough because. [01:19:36] Speaker B: This is tough because also, you don't want to just limit it to the sport that you love or the sport that I love. You kind of want to think, overall, who is the goat? [01:19:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:45] Speaker B: And what does goat athlete mean? Are we talking about just athletic ability. [01:19:49] Speaker A: Personally, for athlete, I'm gonna say athletic ability because if I think about my favorite sport is in football. [01:19:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:56] Speaker A: Obviously, the whole Messi, Ronaldo debate, as you know, I don't really like picking him apart. [01:20:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:01] Speaker A: Because I grew up loving Ronaldo, but I'm not stupid. Messi's just an alien with a football. But as an athlete, there is no question that Ronaldo's about, like. I'm not going to diminish Messi's work, but, like, he is a gift from. [01:20:15] Speaker B: I would honestly give it to Ronaldo as well. [01:20:17] Speaker A: And I think on that case, obviously, I don't really know basketball like you do, but. But from that note, LeBron James kind of thing. But Ronaldo's turning 41 soon, and granted, he's playing in Saudi League, but he's nearly got a thousand goals. [01:20:29] Speaker B: No, I would still give it to Ronaldo over Bron. Even though he's a freak athlete as well. [01:20:34] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:20:34] Speaker B: I would still give it to ronaldo still. Because LeBron still eats tacos and stuff. [01:20:38] Speaker A: Oh, exactly. Yeah. [01:20:39] Speaker B: If it's got any sort of saturated fat, sugar, anything. He's not touching it. [01:20:44] Speaker A: Ronaldo did. I saw one the other day and I was talking to someone about this the other day because they were talking about the fact risk going sound really random. I don't like napping, but Ronaldo has, like, incremental naps through the day. He never sleeps more than a few hours. He only drinks water. [01:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:20:56] Speaker A: Drinks loads of red meat. All this weird. But the other thing I saw was he did. You know, every like couple of years you hear Ronaldo's done his medical for his new club and it says he's like 18. [01:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And his lungs have like a 28. 28. [01:21:06] Speaker A: I was just gonna say he did. It was either runner or one of those new running apps that did like a BMI thing or whatever. And it said he had the body of a prime 28 year old athlete. He's turning 41. [01:21:16] Speaker B: Insane. [01:21:17] Speaker A: Like it's ridiculous. [01:21:18] Speaker B: Insane. [01:21:19] Speaker A: He's never had a big injury. That's one thing that's like unheard of in. In any athletics. [01:21:24] Speaker B: Sure. [01:21:24] Speaker A: Really? So when. So again, that's what's tough because I always thought Muhammad Ali was always one of my favorite athletes. [01:21:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:30] Speaker A: You know you might Tyson things more iconic than. Yeah, exactly. And you can talk. And their peak being so big. But I don't think LeBron and Ronaldo, even Michael Jordan and people. I don't think anyone touches LeBron and Ronaldo for their peak being so long. [01:21:44] Speaker B: Wrong. I agree. No. Longevity is massive. [01:21:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And Messi's longevity is massive. But Ronaldo is an athlete. [01:21:50] Speaker B: I'm still so sad that Kobe's dead. More for the fact that way he. When Ronaldo retired for them to like for some Nike sponsored event. Have a sit down for an hour. Kobe knows ball as well. Kobe knows football is his first love. [01:22:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:03] Speaker B: He can also speak Spanish. He could even do the whole thing in. In Portuguese with him. But the fact that they would have such a similar mindset of. Do you also hate teammates that eat sugar? Yes. Do you also hate teammates? I do. [01:22:16] Speaker A: In general. Yeah. [01:22:16] Speaker B: In general. Yeah. [01:22:17] Speaker A: Totally. [01:22:18] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean? And they would both be so understanding of someone else who'd miss like their own kids birthdays for games and matches. [01:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:25] Speaker B: And that they'd be like. You were the only person who would understand that feeling. [01:22:29] Speaker A: So true. So true. [01:22:30] Speaker B: Damn it. Go on. [01:22:32] Speaker A: Goat sports moment. You still get chills watching. [01:22:34] Speaker B: You know what my funny one is? [01:22:36] Speaker A: Go on. [01:22:36] Speaker B: Mine's a football one. [01:22:37] Speaker A: Is it? [01:22:38] Speaker B: It's a football one. [01:22:39] Speaker A: What is it? [01:22:39] Speaker B: It's the one I've mentioned a few times. Even though there's a million great basketball examples. And it's only because every time I see the clip I always watch it all the way through and it's that Troy Dini goal. [01:22:50] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [01:22:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. They've always put some great music in the background of it. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:55] Speaker B: And I think the announcer, I don't know who it is, does a really good job of summarizing what's going on. I don't know. But he does a really good job of explaining what's going on. And then when he scores the Belton, he's like DD Yeah. Mine's a football one because I think that's a great moment. [01:23:13] Speaker A: I just don't think that any sport has scripts like football. [01:23:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:17] Speaker A: Because there's less goals as there is in basketball, baseball, whatever. Like the stakes are a little bit higher and like. But for me, obviously as United, it has to be the treble winning season, the new camp final. Because there is just never been anything like it. Where in an actual final, you know, they were one nil down entering injury time. [01:23:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:38] Speaker A: And within three minutes, United won two one. You know what I mean? Like gigs with a shot Sherigham. I've literally got a long sleeve Sheringham shirt of him. Of that shirt. [01:23:47] Speaker B: Nice. [01:23:48] Speaker A: And just an Ollie Gunnar solo shower. They still sing it to this day. Like it gives you absolute chills. Never seen anything like it. Yeah. Loads of football moments, but I don't. I just don't think athletics or anything can give you that. There's obviously going to be basketball moments and stuff like that that I think are insane. And I love a couple of buzzer beaters. They're always exciting, but like Usain Bolts world record breaking moment. It's a nine second. [01:24:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:10] Speaker A: Event. [01:24:10] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. [01:24:11] Speaker A: Like really. I'm gonna get over it. [01:24:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:13] Speaker A: But yeah, go on. Is there is a couple more. But there's a couple that we missed. Oh. Oh. Go. Artist transformation. Oh. [01:24:26] Speaker B: So that's a really specific one to another thing. [01:24:29] Speaker A: Yeah. I've got two or three. [01:24:37] Speaker B: Google first. [01:24:38] Speaker A: In fact, I've got a few. Instead of being my cliche one first. It's really predictable. I'm gonna say Coldplay. [01:24:45] Speaker B: Coldplay's a good one. [01:24:46] Speaker A: I don't think there's any artist apart from the likes of David Bowie, that across 30 years, their first album and their newest album. Album still being equally as successful. Sure. Whether you like them or not, but. [01:24:56] Speaker B: Slightly tweaked to what people like, but kept their original flavors. [01:25:00] Speaker A: I don't think there's anyone who has. You can listen to pick any Coldplay album. You know it's Coldplay, but it doesn't sound like the other ones. [01:25:06] Speaker B: That's very. [01:25:07] Speaker A: I think it's impossible to have a sound that's so you. [01:25:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:10] Speaker A: But so distinct from the last album. I don't think anyone's done that like Coldplay. [01:25:13] Speaker B: I think that's a really good show. [01:25:14] Speaker A: I really don't. And it's 30 years. I mean, Parachute's first album is such an incredible album. [01:25:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:20] Speaker A: But it's like 96, 1996. And I actually. I love Coldplay, as you know, as you do. But I think their new stuff's trash. Apart from. To be fair, there's a couple of songs on the new one, but a new album, 2025, number one album. That's 30 years at the top. [01:25:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Mega longevity. [01:25:34] Speaker A: Yeah, mega longevity. But then obviously I'm gonna say transformation. Kendrick from being like hood rapper, jazz rapper, to like social conscious rapper. Tyler's like Tyler's the easy. The artistry. Yeah. Yeah. And like him living his characters is so easy. I mean, Yonkers and odd future days. Like rapping about very different, like, weird slurs and. [01:25:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:58] Speaker A: Like weird childish stuff to like the stuff he's doing now over like Quincy Jones sample that he's done in himself. [01:26:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:04] Speaker A: Unbelievable. [01:26:05] Speaker B: That's probably the best answer I would go for. [01:26:06] Speaker A: I think Tyler's pretty. [01:26:07] Speaker B: I think Tyler's a great answer. [01:26:08] Speaker A: Unbelievable. And. And you can say your princes and your. David Bowie's and Michael Jackson. [01:26:13] Speaker B: They don't really change, though, that much. [01:26:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:14] Speaker B: That's why Michael just did. [01:26:15] Speaker A: David Bowie did a lot to. [01:26:17] Speaker B: And then move to more pop. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Yeah. But like you, Stevie Wonders and stuff like that. They were just constantly fantastic. [01:26:22] Speaker B: Constantly. Constantly. [01:26:23] Speaker A: And that wasn't what they were about. They weren't reinventing their own wheel. [01:26:27] Speaker B: Every time they found a wheel and went. [01:26:29] Speaker A: And it was perfect. [01:26:29] Speaker B: We're keeping the wheel. [01:26:30] Speaker A: It rolled very nicely. [01:26:31] Speaker B: It rolled nicely. That's a great way of putting it. Go on. [01:26:33] Speaker A: Exactly. Go. I'm going to adapt this one a little bit. [01:26:38] Speaker B: Adapt it. [01:26:39] Speaker A: Go. Mixtape. [01:26:39] Speaker B: Run. [01:26:43] Speaker A: So when I say mixtape, we'll call it album. Because obviously we're going to be hip hop biased. But I couldn't. I don't think this could have come up any better because we had the conversation last night watching Tyler. [01:26:53] Speaker B: Yeah. That his run is pretty sensational. [01:26:55] Speaker A: I don't. I think it's so massively underrated as a sensational run. And I'm not even going to include just even. Just to prove how sensational it is. I'm not even going to conclude. Include his first two or three that are still pretty generational, but even from, you know, Flower boy. Igor. Call me if you get Lost. [01:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:13] Speaker A: If we're being anal too. Come again? If you get lost because you release them one a year later and then Chromicopia, that's four Grammy winning albums that are completely different. And I don't think anyone's had that consistency, apart from the obvious being Kendrick and because a good kid. Mad City, pimpable butterfly. Damn. Mr. Morale. Untitled and mastered again. People forget that exists as we do. And the Black Panther album. Yeah, unbelievable. Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers and GNX now again, I think. Damn. Mr. Morale and GNX are three fantastic albums and if they didn't belong to Kendrick Lamar would have a lot more respect on the name. We've said that a lot of times between us. Damn, that won a fucking Pulitzer Prize award. It's not even in his top two. [01:27:57] Speaker B: No, no, it's not. [01:27:58] Speaker A: I was gonna say three, but it's definitely three. For me it would be three, but like. So. [01:28:01] Speaker B: No, that's a great one. [01:28:02] Speaker A: And. And. And I guess even though the full. [01:28:04] Speaker B: Album'S not really mixed, that's a good one. [01:28:07] Speaker A: Totally. And I guess Michael Jackson's Run from your Thrillers your bad. [01:28:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it would be. [01:28:14] Speaker A: But I'm like. I don't know. I'm trying to think less. Less like in the box, ironically. I would. People won't like it. I would say Coldplay, I think Coldplay. Parachutes, Russia, Blood to the head. No. What's the one we fix you on? I forgot what it's called. The blue one. Ooh. Anyway, that one. [01:28:32] Speaker B: That one. [01:28:32] Speaker A: Viva Lavida. Viva and Milo Exelot. Yeah, the rest get a little bit questionable for me. But that's five. That's five great ones that were all fantastic and they all won loads of Brit Awards and stuff like that. [01:28:44] Speaker B: Drive called Quest never really had a bad album either. [01:28:46] Speaker A: No, but they didn't release that many, did they? And that people say, I mean, I know you don't like Jay Z and I know for the obvious reason we don't like Jay Z at the moment, but like, even his iconic albums people talk about. And all the Blueprint albums, they weren't all bangers. [01:28:57] Speaker B: No. No, they weren't. What about Zarface as well? Oh, Kanye is the obvious answer. Here's the obvious answer in order. [01:29:05] Speaker A: But he's chosen to not be anti semitic now, so we can say it. [01:29:08] Speaker B: Graduation, 808s and heartbreaks. I can't remember if 808's and heartbreaks. Then it goes to. [01:29:15] Speaker A: Then I think it was my beautiful. [01:29:16] Speaker B: Dark twisted fantasy then it's tpap. [01:29:18] Speaker A: Watch the Throne. [01:29:19] Speaker B: Watch the Throne. [01:29:20] Speaker A: It's a tpap. [01:29:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:22] Speaker A: To pimp a butterfly. [01:29:24] Speaker B: No, not tpap. What's it called? No More Parties in la. [01:29:28] Speaker A: Oh, Life of Pablo. [01:29:29] Speaker B: Life of Pablo. Sorry. [01:29:30] Speaker A: That was way after, though. Watch the Throne, then Yeezus. [01:29:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And Jesus as well. [01:29:34] Speaker A: Then. [01:29:34] Speaker B: Was it. [01:29:34] Speaker A: Was it Life of Pablo? [01:29:35] Speaker B: Yeah. 2016. Yeah. [01:29:37] Speaker A: I'll die on the Throne. That Donda's a fantastic album. [01:29:39] Speaker B: It is. [01:29:39] Speaker A: Donda, too. [01:29:40] Speaker B: That's not a tough. That's not crazy to say. [01:29:44] Speaker A: You wouldn't believe it. [01:29:45] Speaker B: No. Kanye is the best answer, though, because that's. [01:29:47] Speaker A: There's no one with a catalog like Kanye West, I don't think. And, you know, you can say the Beatles and stuff like that, but I think we've answered that pretty fairly. [01:29:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Going then. What else you got? [01:29:56] Speaker A: There isn't really any left. But I think this is missing a lot. [01:30:00] Speaker B: Is it? I mean, do you want to do one more? [01:30:02] Speaker A: We've already done our goat wrappers before. [01:30:04] Speaker B: We've done it many a time. [01:30:05] Speaker A: Many a time. Solidified. I'm gonna say go actor. [01:30:10] Speaker B: Actor. [01:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So. [01:30:12] Speaker B: Or actress. [01:30:13] Speaker A: I was gonna say any. Any. I was gonna say any genre. Any gender. [01:30:17] Speaker B: Any gender. For me. [01:30:20] Speaker A: I would rather. For you. [01:30:22] Speaker B: What do you mean? [01:30:23] Speaker A: Rather than us just say Meryl Streep because she's won the most Oscars. [01:30:26] Speaker B: I'd say Meryl Streep is so bang. Overrated. [01:30:28] Speaker A: I agree. [01:30:28] Speaker B: Meryl Streep is who? And for female. To keep him, like, separate. Everyone that says Meryl Streep is the Don. Whatever. Cate Blanchett is 100 times her actor. Think about all the times you've seen. [01:30:42] Speaker A: It's the wrong time to tell me that because I watched Borderlands the other day and it was dreadful. [01:30:45] Speaker B: That's a really bad example. [01:30:47] Speaker A: So dreadful. [01:30:48] Speaker B: That's not a good example at all. [01:30:49] Speaker A: She is great. [01:30:50] Speaker B: But it's Denzel. Otherwise, though, as soon as seen, it's. [01:30:53] Speaker A: Really tough to say. [01:30:54] Speaker B: Not seen any more movies by another actor than Denzel. [01:30:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:58] Speaker B: And I'm a few last few years, I'm out of date because I've not seen the newest equalizer. I've not seen his map. I've not seen Roman J's Roman Esquire. Not seen Gladiator 2. I'm a bit out of date. [01:31:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:09] Speaker B: But for the bulk of his first bit of career and even the older stuff like Glory, it's Denzel. He can do a villain so well. And then he can play the Good guy. So well. [01:31:19] Speaker A: Very true. [01:31:19] Speaker B: He can also play the. The average Joe. [01:31:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:21] Speaker B: Like in taking a Pelham 1, 2, 3. An average guy. Very well. [01:31:25] Speaker A: Yeah. So true. [01:31:26] Speaker B: It's Denzel. [01:31:27] Speaker A: I'm gonna through gritted teeth because he's definitely on the Epstein list. And he's very much let me down with all of that because he was my favorite for a very long time. Tom Hanks. [01:31:37] Speaker B: Tom Hanks. Oh, yeah. [01:31:38] Speaker A: Tom Hanks has just got so many bodies. Bangers of performances. [01:31:43] Speaker B: Skeletons and corsets. [01:31:43] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah. But many skeletons in his closet. But I'm gonna. Leo, obviously Leonardo DiCaprio. I really think he's a generational actor. I think it's tough to beat him. I'm actually gonna say Brad Pitt. [01:31:54] Speaker B: Brad Pitt's a great one. [01:31:55] Speaker A: I fucking love everything Brad Pitt does. And he's still making great films. I've not watched F1. That's new, isn't it? [01:32:01] Speaker B: There's a great. No, obviously not yet. There's a great joke that they did at Rob Lowe's roast where David Spade says to him. David Spade says to Rob Lowe. Rob Lowe struggled with an actor to get meaningful roles because of how good looking he was. I would ask Brad Pitt by that, but he was too busy acting in meaningful roles, basically saying the excuses. [01:32:23] Speaker A: I mean, it was. Obviously he was Hollywood's hot guy. [01:32:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:26] Speaker A: But he's done other stuff. [01:32:27] Speaker B: He's done great things. [01:32:28] Speaker A: Even the likes of your World War Z's and stuff like that. [01:32:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:30] Speaker A: Great, great film. [01:32:31] Speaker B: Watch that again last year. [01:32:32] Speaker A: Oh, I'd love that film. But like. [01:32:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:36] Speaker A: Fury is one of the best war films I've ever seen. [01:32:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:39] Speaker A: You know, I actually think this is a funny one as well. Yeah. The Little Dicky series, as you know, is one of my favorites. Just as a musician. [01:32:46] Speaker B: Sure. [01:32:46] Speaker A: His episode in that is one of the best episodes of TV I've ever seen. [01:32:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:50] Speaker A: And he's well funny in it. And you never really see that side of him. [01:32:53] Speaker B: I don't think he's. I can't think of he's ever done. [01:32:54] Speaker A: I can't think of much comedy. [01:32:56] Speaker B: No. [01:32:56] Speaker A: No. [01:32:57] Speaker B: Actually Bullet Train was quite funny. [01:32:58] Speaker A: Bullet Train was brilliant. I completely forgot about that. And I will say Will Ferrell as well. [01:33:03] Speaker B: Will Ferrell's great show. [01:33:04] Speaker A: Will Ferrell is just like. I would laugh at anything he does. [01:33:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Not a great show. [01:33:09] Speaker A: But otherwise I could probably talk about that all day. [01:33:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Should we close it out there? [01:33:12] Speaker A: Should we wrap it up? [01:33:13] Speaker B: I think that's a good ending. So thanks for tuning in. There's been a lot we covered. Dear God. This is going to be a long one. [01:33:20] Speaker A: We like a long one when it's me and you, though. [01:33:22] Speaker B: We do. [01:33:22] Speaker A: And they've got a lot to catch up on. Our adoring, lovely fans that we're doing. [01:33:26] Speaker B: So as per usual, leave a comment wherever you're watching this, wherever you're watching it, give us a review. If you're on Apple Music, please do actually Spotify. [01:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:33:35] Speaker B: Do a five star and go. [01:33:36] Speaker A: You can comment on Spotify now, can't you? [01:33:37] Speaker B: Can't say, you know what? These guys. These guys are right. [01:33:39] Speaker A: Tell everyone we're great. [01:33:40] Speaker B: Tell everyone we're great. [01:33:41] Speaker A: Absolutely. We've got very, very high dreams and aspirations for series three, don't we? [01:33:47] Speaker B: We do. We'll most likely have a guest next episode. [01:33:49] Speaker A: Yep. Statistically speaking, we've got a variety of some great friends that are gonna come on. [01:33:54] Speaker B: Yep. Some newbies. [01:33:56] Speaker A: Some newbies. We've got some artists that are friends that we're gonna be championing. We're also aiming for some pretty unbelievable guests that we're big fans of. True, true, true. A couple already in the locker which we can't re reveal, obviously, that are just is pretty insane for us. But we want to do a bit of everything this year. We also want to be more consistent. [01:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [01:34:17] Speaker A: We also want to be, I think a big thing of what me and Lima conscious are. We. This is what we fell in love with the podcast for and what we're hoping other people did when it's just me and Liam chatting. [01:34:27] Speaker B: Totally. [01:34:28] Speaker A: We want to keep that at the core as well, don't we? [01:34:31] Speaker B: Totally. [01:34:32] Speaker A: So you're gonna get a be. Get a variety of me and Liam plus some friends chatting, having some fun times and then also having some mad guest on that's going to blow you away. [01:34:41] Speaker B: Totally. So. [01:34:43] Speaker A: But lots of good things coming for series three is what have we got to say? So I have been Sam, Mr. Kid Blue, as you know, you find me at Kid blue, artist this. Mr. Liameloney at Maloney PNG. [01:34:53] Speaker B: Maloney PNG. [01:34:54] Speaker A: Maloney PNG. [01:34:56] Speaker B: Yep. [01:34:56] Speaker A: We're gonna be signing off from that from now on. [01:34:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I like it. [01:34:58] Speaker A: I like it. I like it. [01:34:59] Speaker B: Throw us in. [01:35:00] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Thanks for tuning in. Thanks for coming and joining us back. [01:35:03] Speaker B: For series three and until the next one. [01:35:05] Speaker A: We're back, baby. Welcome to the away podcast.
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