Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Feel Way podcast. We've got a little bit different today, haven't we? We're missing Splinter, we're missing Lil's. We're missing everybody. It's back to the og. It's just me and you.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: My friend's gone.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: It's just me and you. So in that case, we're gonna do some fun stuff again. We've got no guests to lecture, no guests to question. We're just gonna do some fun stuff. We've got a bit of a funny little segment at the end that we've been wanting to do for a while.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: We do.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: But before that, we're gonna go way back to our roots, take us back and catch up to some pop culture, aren't we, Ryo?
[00:00:40] Speaker B: Before.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: Before that.
[00:00:41] Speaker B: Before that.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: Splinter, in his absence, has sent in a question of the week to get us going. And I haven't seen it. And it is.
[00:00:49] Speaker B: Go ahead, let me hear it.
[00:00:50] Speaker A: Oh, this. I can already tell this is gonna be a good one.
It's gone. That's gone. Right to the bottom again. There we go. If you got a call from the police and the other person on this sofa had been arrested, what crime would they have committed?
[00:01:02] Speaker B: He's good at his job.
[00:01:03] Speaker A: Not only is he good at his job, he doesn't even know the story of why I nearly got arrested the other week.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Yeah, good point.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: So maybe you should go first.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: We'll bring that up in an actual.
For anyone who obviously doesn't know, Sandwich will be likely the majority of people listening to this. There's no unluckier human on earth.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: You know Domino from Deadpool 2. Her whole thing's luck. Her thing's Lady Luck.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: I'm anti Domino.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: You're anti Domino. You're checkers. You're not dominoes. Do you know what I mean?
[00:01:31] Speaker A: This shit ain't chess. Oh, they did it the other way around. This shit ain't checkers.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: As chess. Yeah. Well done, Sam. Watched Training Day.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: I watched Training Day the other day.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: It'd be for something so unlucky. I know. It'd be a. If he called or the police called and said, your friend's been caught. Blood in his hands. There's a dead person on the floor.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: I know that your first thought would be, someone's fell off a bridge in front of me.
[00:01:51] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: Not that I've done anything.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: I would know it's an accident.
Someone has tripped in front of him, fell on their own knife and died, and they've thrown the knife into the Air. He's caught it, fingerprints are on it and he's too good of a person to dip. And he thought, I'll call them myself. And they've thought, he's trying to pull a fast one. He's killed him. I'd go, officer, funny story. This kind of stuff happens to him all the time.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: This happens all the time.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: This is a very simple Sam Cappa thing.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: Well, do you know what's actually funny, people? That Liam's answer is as much as it's bang on. Correct. It's not even as ridiculous as the reason I nearly was arrested in the league.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: Tell them why you were nearly arrested this week.
[00:02:27] Speaker A: I've got some beef with the police at the moment, with the popo, with the pigs.
And basically I have an electric scooter. I've been riding it for like a year or two. Road legal electric scooter, apparently.
[00:02:41] Speaker B: So we thought.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: So I thought, go on. And I don't know where you're listening to from, but every major city has got literally like thousands of these knocking about at the moment. These bike lanes everywhere. It's what everyone. Who's right. When I bought mine from Curry's, I wasn't told anything about it. Just blah, blah, blah. You order it, it comes, I drive it. Simple as I was riding to work the other week and I go across the road at the lights and the lights were on, green for the cars. Not like. Not green, man. And this bloke waved me across and I was like, looked at the green light. I was like, well, right, okay, whatever, crossed. And then sirens come on and I look to my right and it's a blacked out police car. This bloke goes like this, pull over, pull over. I was like, right, whatever, okay. He gets out the car and he goes, have you got your license and registration? And I went, for what?
[00:03:27] Speaker B: You went, excuse me, I'm actually on two wheels, I swear to God.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: I laughed. I was like, for what I would. And he smiled and looked at his.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: Top band of that. Have a good one, Alfa. Sir. I'm out.
[00:03:36] Speaker A: See, I know you guys had a sense of humor, honest to God. And he looks at his mate and they both like smile at each other. And I was like, it's an electric scooter. And I was like, it goes literally 15 miles an hour.
What are you on about? Anyway, long story short, you need to have a driver's license for him now.
[00:03:52] Speaker B: But Currie's let you know that, didn't they, when they bought it?
[00:03:54] Speaker A: Obviously nobody's told me that.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:03:56] Speaker A: And do you know, just to sum up my unluckiness, I said to the officer, I was like, look, I'm not annoyed with you. If that's the law, that's the law. But why am I been driving this for two years and this is the first I've heard about it? And they're everywhere. And I swear to God, as he's pulling me over these fucking scooters going past, going past and he points at the lime scooters and go, they're fine because lime pay loads of money for insurance and all this stuff, blah, blah, blah. But he said because it's technically a motorized vehicle. Motorized vehicle, Liam. The battery on it's as big as my phone. So you're telling me that if I put a motorized battery on this Yeezus vinyl.
[00:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:31] Speaker A: That it's a vehicle, is it? Yeah, because that's what he said.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: If you stick two wheels on it.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: So my ticket was for driving a motorized vehicle unlicensed.
[00:04:40] Speaker B: Yeah. That is bonkers.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: The same as a fucking car.
[00:04:42] Speaker B: You nearly got a fine though.
[00:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah, he let me off with it because he fucking took my scooter off me.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: You know what the fine would have been?
[00:04:47] Speaker A: Oh, mate. This is. This shows how much of a gray area it's in at the moment though. Because he was literally scribbling stuff out on the ticket.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he's guessing. He's making it up.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: Well, it's literally there's laws in place at the moment, but the laws are in place at the moment. It's a stretch that they're covering this because it's like a two wheeled vehicle, but obviously that's a fucking motorbike.
[00:05:06] Speaker B: What's the deal with every delivery and just eat driver has, you know, the thing on the touch of the bike.
[00:05:10] Speaker A: Literally like motorized bicycles. And I swear. So when I said to him why I've been driving this for two years and I didn't know about it and no one said anything, he literally said to me, well, the funny thing is you probably want to get pulled over normally, but me and my partner are out on our operation to raise awareness for electric scooters driving around on license.
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Dwight Schrute for the so I've literally.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Just been a jobs worth pulled me over to make an example of me. Don't fuck all wrong.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: The thing is, you're splinter.
[00:05:34] Speaker A: That's a perfect question.
[00:05:35] Speaker B: Great question, Splinter. If you were 15 seconds earlier or later in your day leaving, you would have been fine. You would not have known, literally. And since then you've mentioned and told me this story. I've seen every man and his dog everywhere, and I just keep want to stop and going. Have you been pulled over yet? Because I think probably not.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: He said they were doing that operation for four days.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You were fresh. You were the top of the list.
[00:05:58] Speaker A: Literally.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: There's got to be a warehouse that's just filled with.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: So I ain't getting it back for one. Because again, with this gray area. So you can't. You don't need a driver's license to drive an electric scooter if it goes over 25 kilometers an hour. Mine goes 24.8.
[00:06:14] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:14] Speaker A: So I don't need a license. So I don't need a license technically.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: Right.
[00:06:17] Speaker A: But I need to be insured. Can't get insured unless you've got a license.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: That is a big.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: So I can't pick it up from the station unless I've got insurance and a driver's license. Yeah, he fucking told me. If I had L plates on it, it'd have been fine. L plates on electric skillet.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: I'm a learner. I'm a learner on my own.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: Where am I clicking them on? Where am I putting him on? Your battery wrapped around, so you just see a red line on the edge.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: Of, like, your belt.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: My goggles. Just drive around with a big L on my head.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: You might have to.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: It was a fat L on my head.
[00:06:40] Speaker B: I was just gonna say you received an L. Answer Splitter's question, though, so to get off that tangent.
[00:06:45] Speaker A: Yes, but what for you. You're in the perfect line of work to not get in trouble. Because if you were in any other line of work, it'd be the kind of thing like not putting the handbrake on a bus or something and just getting everybody on the bus murdered by accident. And you'd be like.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: It'd be an accident.
[00:06:58] Speaker A: Involuntary manslaughter is what I would get a phone call for Liam doing for war.
[00:07:01] Speaker B: What am I doing, though?
[00:07:02] Speaker A: Anything. Irresponsible.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: But what am I doing out here? Irresponsible.
[00:07:05] Speaker A: Well, that's what I mean. You work from home, so if you forget to go to a meeting, nobody dies. Whereas if you're in any other line of work with just how forgetful what we're saying.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: We're both. It's an accidental.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:16] Speaker B: And it's an accidental crime.
[00:07:17] Speaker A: We're good people.
[00:07:18] Speaker B: Yeah, we're good people.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: Would just make a silly little mistake.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: Make silly mistakes.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: Silly little mistake.
[00:07:22] Speaker B: Silly billies.
[00:07:23] Speaker A: Anyway. Thank you for that splinter.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: Great one. Splinter.
[00:07:24] Speaker A: That was a good one. That was per usual. So we've got some crazy stuff has happened, hasn't it? We're not going to delve back into the conspiracy world of the diddies and such.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: It could change so much by the.
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Time because it could change so much. And we're gonna solidify and stand down again. On we said this. What was it? Two, three weeks before he was arrested?
[00:07:47] Speaker B: Way before. I think at least a month before.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: Well, I know you've especially been saying it for years, as many people have.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: In regards to the episodes that you may have listened to. It was beforehand we were saying, yeah.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: Next, it feels like. It feels like since we released that episode, every man in his dog's going, have you heard? Beyonce's actually not a very nice person.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: What were we saying?
[00:08:04] Speaker A: Have you heard this? My fucking mum's coming up to me, like, flipping through Facebook reels about conspiracies on Diddy and Jay Z and all that. What's going on? I love it.
[00:08:14] Speaker B: Been there, been there, done that. My shirt doesn't say feel weird. It says, been there, done that. Not been there, done that.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: It's Mario Balotelli. Why always me Been nice on that.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Said it.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: Right. But anyway. But we are going to go into some music industry knowledge because. Can you believe it, Liam, go on. The end must be nigh because it looks like. Well, we've confirmed we've got a Tyler crater album coming 28th, 28th of October. So by the time you might be hearing this.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: By the time you hear this, it's long been out.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: It's going to be out.
[00:08:41] Speaker B: It's been out.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: I don't even want to say the words. I don't want to say it.
[00:08:45] Speaker B: Don't say it. Who must not be named.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: We might be getting a Frank Ocean album.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: We might be getting a. There's not any around me. We might be Frank. Oh, yeah, there you go.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: I've got. I've got a Frank Ocean record behind. Frank Ocean record behind the last one from fucking 2016. 2016.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: Disgusting.
[00:09:00] Speaker A: That selfish bastard.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: Selfish. That.
[00:09:03] Speaker A: But. So that's two. Kendrick Lamar.
[00:09:05] Speaker B: Kendrick on the horizon, fresh off his.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Fat win of the rat beef of Drake. Hannah, that's for you. Yep.
And off the back of Glastonbury, it looks like we're getting an album off him.
Super bowl at Super Bowl. Sorry, yeah.
[00:09:18] Speaker B: So next February is when the super bowl is April time, Lehman.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: The next six months. You know what?
[00:09:23] Speaker B: No, no, because April might make sense because thingy released in April as well. Dam released in April 17th.
[00:09:31] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:09:32] Speaker B: Also so did Mr. Morrell. Splinter was here. He could fact check it out. I'm almost certain it also released in April.
[00:09:37] Speaker A: Well, what I would also like him to fact check is I've seen lots of theories that he's going to release on Drake's birthday. Can you remember when that is? Because I can't remember. It's the 24th of something.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Is it not October? Because October's very own. I think it's October.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that makes sense, doesn't it? It rings a bell. Well, that's too soon then, isn't it? Can you imagine if in October we got Tyler, Kendrick Lamar, and then suddenly Frank Ocean drop any day now, then it becomes collapse. Liam, I don't think I could go to.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: But we don't. We're not that loved.
[00:10:00] Speaker A: It's not gonna happen. But Tyler has always been. Tyler's been good to us behind the camera. I'm looking directly in his eyes in a poster and thank you. Give him a kiss.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: Chromacopia.
[00:10:12] Speaker A: Chromacopia.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: Whatever that means.
[00:10:13] Speaker A: I thought it was some kind of, like, thing onto his name, you know, Tyler Baudelaire or some kind of. I don't know. But it was weird. But have you seen that the green for the album cover is the. If you reverse that, it's the pink of ego.
[00:10:28] Speaker B: Did not know that.
Mind blown Genius.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Mind blown legend. And the one minute and a half clip that he released.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Frank Ocean detected. Daniel Caesar detected potentially some others we don't know about. I saw someone on TikTok trying to piece together the silhouettes of the guys. Yes.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: Well, we don't know if they were intentional to try and play, like, the characters of potential because it's like a Kendrick haircut. There's a Denzel Curry haircut. Like, there's all sorts. Yeah. There was a Kanye Wilson.
[00:10:56] Speaker B: It's entirely possible at the same time, if I was him, I would do the same thing. I would make you think, yeah, here's Morgan's in my video. But it's actually just.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: Well, the thing is Tyler's got that.
That rapport in the. In the. Oh, anyone would jump on that album nowadays. And I feel like we were saying jumping on features.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Unlisted.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:14] Speaker B: Jaden. Feature. Jaden.
[00:11:16] Speaker A: Jaden Smith.
[00:11:16] Speaker B: Jaden Sancho.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: Jaden Sancho on Flower Boy.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: I have no idea what even looks like Jaden Sancho. Jaden Smith on potholes on Flower Boy.
[00:11:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
Well, this is it. When Flower Boy came out, I'm A Ryan saying it was unlisted and then he went back and did it. But on Igor, it's still not listed. Of all the films like Kanye west is on, I can't remember which one it is, but he's Kanye doing that for years.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: All through Donda.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:39] Speaker B: You were going, oh, is this Dababy? Is this.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: Playboy car? Is this Whoever you did not know and I kind of respected to have like just a dozen rappers on your tape.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: All I want to say is I ain't ready for a Tyler Kray album to have him. Frank Ocean Cold, the likes of Denzel Curry, Daniel Caesar is one of my goats.
I'm convinced Andre 3k is going to be on there. I think James Blake's going to be on there. He's got all my heroes. He will that album. This is not gonna. This isn't gonna be a big feel weird anymore. It's just gonna be chromacopia in like massive bold letters and you're gonna. Every time you come and see me, I'm just gonna be licking it all day.
[00:12:11] Speaker B: It would be good on this wall. That wall's falling out, by the way.
[00:12:14] Speaker A: It is. Thanks.
[00:12:14] Speaker B: The one that I put up probably.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: Yeah, the one you put up. You put a whole wall up.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I did this.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: Just that panel that doesn't work specifically.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: And that panel that's fallen out of it.
[00:12:23] Speaker A: Oh, interesting.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: Yeah. So sick job.
[00:12:24] Speaker A: Absolutely. Well, anyway, anyway, keep it going. But I've gotta say, if that's all we get.
No, I'm not. I was going to say I'd be happy. I wouldn't.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: I would be happy. I'd be happy. Whatever I can get at this point, I'm happy.
[00:12:35] Speaker A: Absolutely. But Frank slight us down enough times. But. But was it Schoolboy Q that he said? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did read it.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: I can't remember two of my friends to go. Something like that.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: He said, my friends are all dropping this year. Two. One down, two to go.
[00:12:46] Speaker B: And for background, for anyone who doesn't know, Schoolboy Q, part of tde, formerly Kendrick's, before PJ Lang and his long time collaborator. So it would make sense when he says my friends. And also he's friends with Kanye. Don't forget that part that had Kanye on it.
[00:13:02] Speaker A: So I'm getting side excited.
[00:13:04] Speaker B: If his friends are absol. And someone else I don't care about, I'm gonna be really mad.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Just Black thought is releasing an album.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: Which would be sick.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: The Roots. Great. You've been around 25 years. I'm waiting on other people. Do you know what I mean?
[00:13:17] Speaker A: I mean, ironically, even hearing Frank on that clip, that's the first Frank we've heard since 2020, you know?
[00:13:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it will be.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Even as a feature.
[00:13:23] Speaker B: It will be.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: Which is just sickening.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Terrible. Disappointing.
[00:13:27] Speaker A: Anyway, yeah, so what else we got? We've got. Oh, Tribe Called Quest are in the Rock and Roll hall of Fame.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: Finally, Tribecall Quest, the Midnight Marauders. Did you know my oldest music memory is of Tribe Called Quest.
[00:13:39] Speaker A: Is it?
[00:13:40] Speaker B: Did I tell you this?
[00:13:40] Speaker A: Oh, wait, I think we did this on, like, the first episode.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: It was because I said when we were talking about PS1 games.
[00:13:45] Speaker A: No, it was albums, wasn't it? Oh, yes, sorry.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: Cause Thrasher, Skate and destroy on PS1 had a really good, like, hip hop, boombap, east coast playlist on it. And one of them was Award Tour. Another one was. Yeah, Electra Electronic Relaxation. I forget what the name is now.
[00:14:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: So this is the first. My first and earliest memories of music is Tribe and the fact that this now 25 years late. They've been going since before I was born. And they're obviously now a member down five dogs been dead since 2016. But that was their last album, 2016. So for them to be immortalized in the hall of Fame now, it's about.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: Time, really, isn't it?
[00:14:22] Speaker B: It's about time. So. And Chappelle.
[00:14:24] Speaker A: Ozzy Osbourne went in the same day, I think, as well.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Did he go in yesterday? Yeah, he should have been in time ago as well.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: The guy's old as time.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: He could have.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: How many bats you got to eat before you go in the hall of Fame?
[00:14:32] Speaker B: How many bats?
[00:14:33] Speaker A: Come on, that guy's done it. He's done everything he needed.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: I want that. Leticia, how many bats can you eat before you get in the hall of Fame? Do you know what I mean?
[00:14:41] Speaker A: That's on our next range then.
One bat, evidently. One. One is the answer.
[00:14:46] Speaker B: One bat.
[00:14:46] Speaker A: How many Aussie Osbornes did it take to get in the hall of Fame? How many bats eating does it take?
[00:14:50] Speaker B: How many Tribe members need to die before you put them in? One, I guess so.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: Oh, brilliant.
[00:14:55] Speaker B: But, yeah, they're in and I'm happy for it.
[00:14:56] Speaker A: I mean, before all of that, it looks like. Did you see the clip of Kanye West's puppet show that was leaked?
[00:15:03] Speaker B: Yes, I did, and I think it looked.
[00:15:05] Speaker A: The hell was that.
[00:15:06] Speaker B: It's the same thing as always, where something leaks and the artist or whoever goes not having it then. And I kind of respect it.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: Because it wasn't from ages ago.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: Well, it was filmed, they said mtv ten years ago. Yeah. Gave him a million for it. He actually met Kim Kardashian on that because he said yes, he wanted Kim on it because he was like, she's got the perfect ass. I need her quote by him.
And he got her on it. And then. Yeah, a little. A puppet show. But then I think it's because of that time. I don't know if you would have seen him. This very famous Kobe and LeBron adverts that they did for Nike where they have puppets that look identical. Right. And they do little sketches between them. And it was around this time.
[00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:45] Speaker B: So I think they thought puppets are going to be massive. Is this not but like comedy? Kind of.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: Is it like 2008, 2009?
[00:15:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:52] Speaker A: When was Team America World Police?
[00:15:54] Speaker B: Oh, that's.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Is that like 2,400, 5,406?
[00:15:57] Speaker B: Yeah, around that time.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: I was gonna say after that. Yeah.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: But I think it's still at the start of like more adult humor in kids format puppets, which would be Sesame street forever. But now they're like.
[00:16:08] Speaker A: Cause there's just. There's a part of me that can't settle knowing that we got a Kanye west puppet show and we're gonna get a Kendrick Lamar fucking South park creators comedy show before we get a Frank Ocean album.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: Well, of course you will. You'll get everything under the sun. We'll be making bags from the show.
[00:16:23] Speaker A: BTS will be on the 30th album by then anyway.
[00:16:25] Speaker B: BTS will be on the show before.
[00:16:26] Speaker A: Frank Ocean drops on this show.
[00:16:28] Speaker B: We'll have all seven of them on this show.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: We're gonna have Jungkook sat in between us.
[00:16:31] Speaker B: Yeah. We will sit on the floor where we deserve to be and we'll have all seven of them mic'd up.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: Even though half them are. Most of them are still in military. Yeah, they'll all be out of military and on this show before Frank goes.
[00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah, but they're making more music than doing sit ups and training if you ask me.
[00:16:46] Speaker B: If you're K Pop fan, you're eating good.
They're in the military. Before I go though, here's three albums, two music videos, 11 performances, all this merch and stuff.
Can I get a bite?
[00:16:59] Speaker A: Frank Ocean sat home stroking his dogs.
Literally.
[00:17:03] Speaker B: Was that a euphemism?
[00:17:04] Speaker A: It wasn't supposed to be because of his dog George. In fact, he's released did more diamond encrusted cock rings than albums in the last four years.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: No headline or surprise me that isn't to do with music. Frank Ocean is passionate about astrology and he's going to go into that. I go fair. Of course he is. He's going to NYU to study it for five years. Cool. Of course he is, because he'd rather do that than just give us.
[00:17:26] Speaker A: Just release music for his fans that love him and happy birthday.
[00:17:28] Speaker B: Record it and post it on have.
[00:17:31] Speaker A: You heard this is. This was not planned.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: Have you heard baby Keem's Happy Birthday?
[00:17:36] Speaker B: No, I've not. And we can't play it.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: I'm telling you, everything's settled.
[00:17:40] Speaker B: Different melody.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: I'll show you after. You gotta put in a clip. Happy birthday, bitch. I got a gift for you. It's my dick. I swear to God. I've got it saved on my phone. Only recently, I think. I think it's a voice note for Kendrick Lamar that he leaked.
[00:17:54] Speaker B: Oh, should he be saying that?
I don't think it would be.
[00:17:58] Speaker A: No, because that would be a bit.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: Weird that he'd go, you know what? I shouldn't have brought you up with me.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: That's a very select my dick for your birthday.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah, That's a very select birthday message. That's not a family and friends.
[00:18:09] Speaker A: Well, either way, it's fantastic and I.
[00:18:11] Speaker B: Want to hear it.
[00:18:12] Speaker A: I want it. I want it. You'll be getting it for your birthday.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: I was just going to say. I was just going to say Liam's.
[00:18:16] Speaker A: Birthday is coming up. December, everybody. By the way, send your gifts in.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: Send your gifts.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Address noted at the bottom.
[00:18:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Please put my address on the screen as well.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Publicize your address.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: Yeah. If you're on Spotify, listen to this.
Don't send me anything.
Listen to this and share it with your grandma.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[00:18:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:32] Speaker A: Anyway, so, I mean, I don't think there is any other. More music world, is it?
[00:18:36] Speaker B: Not any more music news. No, I think that's the main. The stuff we cared about anyway. Well, we got.
[00:18:41] Speaker A: Well, as a segue, because we want to do a bit of film stuff. We finally got the trailer for Pharrell Williams Lego film. Is the film out?
[00:18:47] Speaker B: Oh, gee.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: Film's out in cinema.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Been out, been out, seeing clips around. Looks good. It's got all sorts of people showing up.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. Everyone's in it.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: Kendricks in it.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: Kendrick's in it, sneaks in, they show the.
[00:18:59] Speaker B: Alright, you know, he's like floating and he's on top of Lampost and stuff.
[00:19:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: Everyone's in It.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: Which is funny because I saw so many people saying that they didn't know that. Alright. Was Pharrell Williams.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: I did. But the four part, the four bar, that's his thing, is here the dirt. Duh, duh, duh, duh. And then he obviously does the hook.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: He does the We Gon Be all right. Yeah, yeah.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: He does all that. And once you know it's for real, you go, of course it is. Because it sounds like.
[00:19:23] Speaker A: Do you not do that with so many songs, though? Was it you that was showing that Swedish House Mafia tune to the other week?
[00:19:27] Speaker B: Which one?
[00:19:28] Speaker A: It was a tune from, like 2009. The I wanna know your name, Name, name, name, name.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: Big fat tune.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's Frel Williams.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: And like, didn't know that for, like 15 years. And the second someone said it, you hear it and you're like, it's the same thing, obviously. Justin Timberlake.
[00:19:41] Speaker B: Justin Timberlake. It's the most famous song of Black Eyed Peas. And you've.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: Where's Love?
[00:19:44] Speaker B: Of course, that isn't Fergie or anyone else. Cause it only sounds like.
[00:19:47] Speaker A: So obviously not Fergie when you know. But no one would have ever thought.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: It'S a white dude's voice.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: Absolutely. And here's a fun fact, which I know you'll know, but the audience will know. Tell him what was Justin Timberlake paid millions for in the 2000s. There you go.
[00:20:00] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: I'm loving it.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: But that flawless rendition, by the way. But, yeah, brush those eyelids.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:20:08] Speaker B: That was with Pharrell, wasn't it? Pharrell was the one who actually produced the. Like, he's the one who got the jingle going.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: Oh, right. Composed said jingle.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: I was gonna say compose. And I thought that feels a little bit too.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: It does it? The word composed doesn't feel. It feels unfair when you're putting it along, things like that, doesn't it? Yeah, because it feels like it's bad at. I'm loving it.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: But this the thing, though, that in this is gonna be such a random quick tangent off this, that when they say it's only big and iconic and amazing because we know it to be at the time, it sounds crap. Like, I saw someone shared their DMs. They were a designer and they said, I want something like the Nike Swoosh. I want something iconic. It doesn't matter what I make you. It's only iconic because it's been iconic for 70 years. Do you know what I mean? It doesn't just happen. Like, this logo means Nothing. Unless it doesn't what it's attached to.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: It means everything.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: It means everything.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: Everything.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: And I pointed for people listening, the logo on the wall behind us, the big field. Do you know what I mean? There's no logo I can make for. Someone as a designer is going to.
[00:21:08] Speaker A: Have an instantaneous logo.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: It's like, there's your Nike swoosh and they're going to go, that's it. It's only because you need to do that.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: You're not going to show the Jordan logo to some like, unfound tribe.
[00:21:18] Speaker B: No.
[00:21:18] Speaker A: And then go, fuck you, hell, it's Michael Jordan.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: They might actually though.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: Yeah, that's possible.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: He's pretty big time.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: Well, have you seen when David Beckham went into all of the forest on his bike tour and everyone was like, hey, fucking David Beckham.
[00:21:28] Speaker B: He's a New Guinea. Papua New Guinea. And they're doing a Mank accent. So that' united.
[00:21:32] Speaker A: Like, he's like blokes in straw skirts going, bend it like Beckham.
[00:21:36] Speaker B: Well, in f. That's class.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Anyway. Yeah, Phillips. So what I wanted to talk about.
[00:21:44] Speaker B: Go.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: Because we've not spoke about it since it's come out. We spoke about when the trailer came out for what, Joker 2.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah. So apparently Bobbins.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: I haven't seen it.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: I am yet to also see it and I am not itching to see it.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:57] Speaker B: Because I don't love a musical well, especially on something that I really enjoyed. The first one.
[00:22:02] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:22:03] Speaker B: I'm yet to see a review of someone going, they killed it, you know?
[00:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah. They literally killed it.
[00:22:09] Speaker B: Killed it.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: It's died and no one wants to ever see it resurrected.
[00:22:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Todd Phillips said, I'm out. He said, I ain't doing D.C. no more.
[00:22:14] Speaker A: I don't think he wanted to make the second one in the first place. You think the studio, because of how much money it made, I think they were gonna kill the joker off in the first film.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they could. I think it's a one and done. It's perfect on its own.
[00:22:25] Speaker A: Yeah. I definitely don't think Joaquin Phoenix was expecting to make a second one. Apparently it's him that went, oh, in a dream. I think fucking, we should do this musical idea. And everyone went, yeah, fine, go on, go for it. And they just let him run off with it. And it's not been good. But for a recap for all of our listeners, when this actually, the trailer must have come out, like, time ago by now. Yeah. Well, anyway, we watched it before. We went fresh onto an episode. And we talked about it.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: We were so excited because the trailer looks sick.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: Trailer, really?
[00:22:51] Speaker B: That was before we knew it was a fully fledged big musical.
[00:22:54] Speaker A: We thought it was just going to be some kind of like weird, demented lucid dream phase, which, ironically, would have been perfect, would have been really good. But apparently it's completely over the top. But, yeah, I'm the same. It literally was my favorite film of the year when it came out. I'm saying that. Was that the same year as Endgame? No, I think it's 2019, wasn't it?
[00:23:14] Speaker B: Maybe you're right.
[00:23:15] Speaker A: Either way, it was in a run of films.
[00:23:17] Speaker B: It was in that year that was.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: Like, oh, my God, they were just belters. But anyway, I was really excited to watch it. And the second it came out and I normally. I'm the same as you. Normally. The reviews, I don't really care.
[00:23:30] Speaker B: Certainly not critic reviews. But I listen to audience reviews a bit more.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: Yes, but it was the types of reviews we were getting. I mean, God, people want their money back. Don't they? Like it?
[00:23:38] Speaker B: When I see people that I follow that are comic book nerds who love anything comic book films and they go, that is arse.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: Then I go, when Wonder Woman 2 comes out and they're like, that film slaps.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I knew it was.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: I'm like, right, well, it's probably Bobbins.
[00:23:51] Speaker B: But like, it was Bobbins.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: But when they think Joker 2 is bad, it's bad.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: Oh, you know it's bad.
[00:23:56] Speaker A: That's not good. It's not good, is it?
[00:23:58] Speaker B: No.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: But, yeah, I definitely ain't gonna be paying money to go and watch that. I'll wait till it comes out.
You do have a stick on the back of this.
[00:24:06] Speaker B: I was just looking.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: It's a bit sideways now today because of a new setup.
[00:24:10] Speaker B: Oh, good. So that's gonna be ruined for everyone.
[00:24:11] Speaker A: Absolutely, yeah.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: If you're enjoying this on a video.
[00:24:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Sorry about the unaesthetic. The unaesthetic sticker going sideways.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Yeah. If you bother by that kind of stuff.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: Anyway, Liam's normally juggling his microphone anyway, so normally just expect it.
[00:24:23] Speaker B: Mess around with it too much. I'm leaving it alone today. Just talking into it. Oh, God. What else we got?
[00:24:28] Speaker A: Anyway, I want to talk a little bit of sports stuff.
And again, I think it's perfect to do this because I know you don't give a fuck about football. We've discovered this. We know this. And some people even like me forcing you to talk about football.
[00:24:40] Speaker B: Some people like me not liking it exactly.
[00:24:41] Speaker A: But one of the benefits of that is getting your opinion on something completely.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: Like, oh, Steve Tuchel.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: I'm going to predict that you meant Thomas Tuchel.
[00:24:53] Speaker B: That's who I meant.
[00:24:53] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: I was really close. Steve T. Shell.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: Steve T Show. Steve the T Show.
[00:24:59] Speaker B: Who sells his shoe Sells.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: By the Teashell.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: By the Teashell, yeah.
[00:25:03] Speaker A: England coach for people who care. Manager and people who don't care.
England after Gareth Southgate. Future Sir Gareth Southgate. People have got their opinions on him, that they love him or they hate him, but he got us farther than we've ever got before.
[00:25:18] Speaker B: Twice.
[00:25:19] Speaker A: Twice. Well, multiple times. We got to final twice, but the semi final, his first one, was the first we got in 20, 30 years.
[00:25:25] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: Anyway, carry on. We've got the best crop of England players. We've. We've had for years, if not ever had. We wanted the best.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: There's a guy called Lee Karsley that's been interim manager for the last few months and he was.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: Why is he the manager? If they're not playing, what are you managing for?
[00:25:40] Speaker A: They do. They have. Well, see, this is perfect. This sums up. They play outside of tournaments, Liam. They have these crappy little international breaks that no one gives a shit about and they've even. Yeah, some of them. A lot of them are qualifiers for a tournament, but they've even created this thing called the Nations League, which I don't know if you've probably not heard of. Of course you haven't heard of.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: Is that different from the Super League?
[00:25:59] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah, it is very different, but. And it's. It's basically a new tournament to try and make these friendlies more competitive and nobody cares about it. Even the players are like, we already play too much. Everyone's snapping their AC left France center because we played too many games or.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Dying on the pitch like that guy from Christian Eriksen.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: Yeah, whatever.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Team.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: He came back to life, though.
[00:26:18] Speaker A: He got man of the match for United the other week, so. Yes, he's definitely alive.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: I know. Then my comment was not too harsh.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: It was four years ago, so. Oh, and what, three years ago?
[00:26:27] Speaker B: That's the most modern football thing I've heard.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: You don't really do post Barclays era, so. Fair play, fair play.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: I'm still in the Coca Cola league.
That's my.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: The Carling Cup. That's my bike for the Carling Cup. Didier Drogba was up front for Chelsea. That's your era really, isn't it?
[00:26:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: Anyway, so we've got an interim manager who was Gareth Southgate's assistant. And this guy's been hilarious. He literally, like, every time they interview him, he's like, I don't care about the media. I don't really want this job. I just want to be like, coach in the background. And everyone's like, should Lee Carsley get the job? And he's like, I don't want it. I don't want. His last name's Carling Lee Carsley.
[00:26:59] Speaker B: Cool.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: Lee Karsley. Anyway, so. But the big debate that I want to get your input on, because it's what's really split the nation.
[00:27:06] Speaker B: Tell me.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: And when I say split the nation, I don't mean all the Brexit racists that like, get my. Get this German man out.
[00:27:11] Speaker B: Flawless and personal.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: I mean, the fact that basically, long story short, the likes of Gary Neville and a lot of like, high level pundits, they've got the point of. There's not enough English manager. Did you know an English manager has never won the Premier League? We're the only country.
[00:27:28] Speaker B: Premier League's been going around since, like.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: Well, the Premier League's been 92.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: Close.
[00:27:33] Speaker A: 1992 is the premier League. Okay, so before that it was just the First Division away. No, it wasn't. Yeah, but before that was the first division. So since 1992, but still, that's 32 years.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: That is bad thought.
[00:27:44] Speaker A: We've never. And everyone thinks because of the likes of Ferguson and like, ironically, loads of Scottish managers have done well, but no English managers have done well. And if you even think about English managers in the Premier League right now, I could probably think of three or four off the top of my head.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: What about big Sam Allardyce?
[00:27:59] Speaker A: He's not managing at the moment, I don't think.
[00:28:01] Speaker B: Is he dead?
[00:28:01] Speaker A: He's definitely not dead somehow. He's not dead somehow. That massive rhino heart of his is still going.
It's still going well.
[00:28:08] Speaker B: That's funny.
[00:28:09] Speaker A: Well, speaking of which, did you know he got the England job once?
[00:28:11] Speaker B: No.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: He got the England job and he was sacked after one game. How do you know what he was?
[00:28:15] Speaker B: 11 nil.
[00:28:16] Speaker A: He's technically got the best win rate because he won his first. Won his one and only game.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: A secret reporter had a secret camera filming him talking about how to dodge agency fees and some dodgy tax stuff with signing players, which was the biggest bag drop. Because this guy had been like his whole life. Everyone was like, sam Allardyce isn't really England. Manager material and he got it. Drop the bag. Drop the bag big time.
[00:28:39] Speaker B: I'd be fuming at that report of absolutely.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: But if anything, that's perfect example because Sam Allardyce, great manager in his day, he's a specific type of manager. He's the manager you want when you want to be saved from getting relegated. But he don't win your titles if that's the best England could do. It was a worrying time.
[00:28:55] Speaker B: That is bad.
[00:28:55] Speaker A: Then we got Southgate, things got a bit better. But point remains, you take Southgate anywhere else, it's not going to go very well.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: Ask me the question.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: The question is, do you think it's right that instead of supporting English talent when there isn't much of it, they've given it to an international manager from Germany?
[00:29:14] Speaker B: Okay, Depends how you feel about the war.
It depends how recent of a bother that is for you. But overall I said from someone who's unbothered about football, we would obviously like to see England win. Obviously. Yeah, I get it. Both sides. If you're someone who's passionately fought, should be an English manager rep in England. Yeah, I totally get it. But at the same time, if you're someone saying best person for the job should get the job, I'm also with it. I asked Dan this and she had a really good perspective and I said I'm gonna pass that off as my own opinion. Do you wanna know what it is?
[00:29:57] Speaker A: What Two class English pundits there. You and your wife never watched a game of football?
[00:30:01] Speaker B: I've watched at least eight football matches, definitely less than 10.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Getting rolling the last two international tournaments.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: And I can't remember what she said, but it was somewhat really thought provoking.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: Fucking fascinating that, mate. What a really good insightful point that Danielle made.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: Should this be on? When this eventually gets a TikTok, it'll be below.
[00:30:18] Speaker A: Are you gonna stitch it in?
[00:30:19] Speaker B: No, I'll try and throw it in because I don't remember what? She deserves credit because it was somewhat clever.
[00:30:24] Speaker A: Speaking of you talking about the war, what I found hilarious is when you get and you go like talk sports and all these radio shows and people are phoning in, giving it their fucking giving their twopence. About twopence, that's how it's pronounced. And there was this. And it's so funny listening to blokes who are so clearly 58 and called Dave fat and bald who don't want to say that they're racist. I get it. Because again, ironically, I do genuinely see both sides and it's fuck all to do with the fact that he's German or whatever like that. It is just because of people on that side. No, the people on that side are just because English coaching has gone downhill so much that we need to be giving opportunities to them.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: Why don't we give it to them.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: At the end of the day? Football manager, like players, people who play the game.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: Football manager, yeah, whoever's who have a world ranked leaderboard on anything you do.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Did you know there was a manager in France?
[00:31:11] Speaker B: Yes, I do, yeah.
[00:31:12] Speaker A: And he was like 34 in English and a ginger.
[00:31:14] Speaker B: How did it go?
[00:31:15] Speaker A: He did quite well, actually.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: Well, there we go. Why are we not doing that?
[00:31:18] Speaker A: And do you know what?
I'll give you a rough figure because I can't remember the figure, but because he didn't have his UEFA coaching badges, which is illegal to do to be to have a job like that, every time they played a game you got fined. The club had to pay someone like €30,000 because he was doing better than they'd ever done.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: But why didn't he just get his badges then?
[00:31:36] Speaker A: Because it takes years.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: Why?
[00:31:38] Speaker A: Because it's a career.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: You can't just apply for it.
[00:31:41] Speaker A: What do you mean? You can't get a medical degree in 10 minutes. It's the same thing.
It's definitely saving lives and it's definitely laudable.
[00:31:48] Speaker B: Sam Capper. Here's my application. Here's a picture of me, here's my last three workplaces and where I live.
[00:31:54] Speaker A: And Bosch Send I don't think own bargains. And the Jaffa Cake factory is the good CV for a international manager. Not that that's my cv because potentially not. Well, anyway, sorry. So the point is, when people were phoning in, they're being like, well, it's not because he's international, it's because he's German. And the guys were like, well, what difference does it make? And he's like, because the Germans and the Argentinians are our only rivals in football. And the guy was actually like, that's because of the wars.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: It's because of the wars.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: It's because of the wars, Jim. It's nothing to do. He's like, no, it's not. It's because of Maradona in the 80s and all this.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Isn't it meant to say that Argentina, if you're rival, if they're winning stuff.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: And we're not, well, we never play Argentina anymore. Last time, I can't remember the last time we played Argentina, but people, he was saying, we're rivals recently. No, we haven't. But he was saying. This guy was saying, argentina are rivals. Because you will even remember David Beckham got sent off because of that documentary. David Beckham got sent off in the 90s. And it's like, we got knocked out in that game. Maradona, the Hand of God. Yeah, all this stuff. But, like, let's be honest, if we didn't go to fucking war with them, we wouldn't be calling them rivals, would we? So he was good, because it's. The other. The other thing is, why it's been like a big debate is because everyone was going, oh, Pep Guardiola. If we can get Pep Guardiola, that'd be sick. And then because we've got another. We've not got a Spanish, we've got a Spaniard, we've got a German. Everyone's kicking off about it. But the point being.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Go.
[00:33:10] Speaker A: He has won the Champions League.
[00:33:12] Speaker B: With who?
[00:33:13] Speaker A: Chelsea.
[00:33:14] Speaker B: When?
[00:33:15] Speaker A: Three years ago.
[00:33:16] Speaker B: I thought, they're nearly getting relegated.
[00:33:18] Speaker A: Chelsea. No, Chelsea have been garbage. But they're still. The point is, they're the ones who have spent, like, half a billion and just bought, like, 30 players and have just, like, lobbed them all on the pitch and expected them to do something interesting.
[00:33:30] Speaker B: Good tactics.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: Ironically, they're doing pretty good now. But anyway, the point being, he signed on merit. But half the people that care about this are going, I don't care. I want the best man for the job. I want to win. And the other half are going, I'd rather not win. And be.
[00:33:46] Speaker B: That is dumb. That's dumb.
[00:33:47] Speaker A: But it's just dumb. This same guy was like, it's fucking over for me. I've paid 300 fucking quid for all the track suits in the last few years and they're all going in the fucking bin if they win the fucking World Cup. If they win the World Cup, I won't be fucking celebrating.
Is it that deep?
[00:34:03] Speaker B: Cancel it.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: Is it that deep?
[00:34:04] Speaker B: Steve from Bournemouth isn't celebrating. Cancel the tournament. Don't even put your name in for it.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:34:09] Speaker B: Don't even bother.
[00:34:09] Speaker A: Ridiculous.
[00:34:10] Speaker B: Who gives?
[00:34:10] Speaker A: Gives a. Yeah.
[00:34:12] Speaker B: I don't get. I can't get behind that, to be honest. I get. Football's your life. I'm cool with it. That's fine. But that is extra. That is very dead.
[00:34:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: Do you want to check? That's still going, by the way.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: It is still going, yeah.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: That is very dead.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah. So what's your general opinion? Very quickly, then.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: Whoever's best at the job, have a crack at it. And should that also fail? Maybe it's on the players, maybe it's on everyone else's. It's also. It's a competitive game. Don't just assume because we created it, we should be the best at it. Well, there's a lot of good players out there.
[00:34:41] Speaker A: You know, the golden generation that is kind of Barclays era, the ones that you'll think of, the Gerrard's, Lampards, Rooney's Owens, blah, blah, blah. Everyone talks about that as the golden generation. How did they not win everything? Do you not forget they didn't get.
[00:34:53] Speaker B: As far as the current squads did.
[00:34:55] Speaker A: No, they didn't, to be fair. But the other thing is the same era. Ronaldinho, Brazilian Ronaldo, Kaka, Roberto Carlos.
[00:35:02] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:35:02] Speaker A: Zinedine Zidane. Like France, Henry. France's team was unreal. They won loads. Brazil's team was unreal. They won loads. France dominated Europe, Brazil dominated the world, the world tournament. That's why we didn't fucking win anything.
[00:35:14] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: But also our best isn't the best, but it was our best.
[00:35:19] Speaker B: So switch onto a sport I prefer just for a quick moment. Squash. Squash. Love squash.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: Basketball, for our audio listeners.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: The same thing for with the usa when they're fighting against the rest of the world. Most of the rest of the world play with each other a lot more than the usa because the USA squad is so competitive, because it's obviously we've got the best. You've got one guy from that team, one guy from that team, maybe two guys from that team. It's such a mixed bag and they're playing with each other, against each other all year and not trying to give away their secrets, their plays, their whatever. So it's difficult for them to play together, even though they really want to win. Whereas the rest of the world, the whole Spanish team, they're all on one team. The whole team of like Jokic and his guys, they all. Apart from him because obviously he's in the. In the league. They're all on. Their starting five is all on one team playing in Europe.
[00:36:11] Speaker A: Right.
[00:36:11] Speaker B: So a lot of them, you know, other teams in fiba, basketball, World cup, whatever, or Olympics, they've been playing together for years and years and years. Yeah, where the whole USA squad is playing against each other for years and years. So it's kind of maybe similar where in the prem. A lot of these guys, they're not trying to share secrets and they're not used to each other's chemistry.
[00:36:30] Speaker A: You don't even realize how amazing of an example you've just made. And because of that same golden generation in England, all of them now are obviously mates because they're all pundits and stuff. And every one of them has pretty much come out and gone. I think the biggest problem was we hate each other.
[00:36:46] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: I mean, like the United boys were winning everything. The Liverpool boys, the Chelsea boys, who.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: Didn'T want to play with them.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Ferdinand was always like, we'd get to England camp. And Fergie would be like, you're not sitting next to Gerrard.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I remember.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: I mean, there's loads of it. And even if he didn't.
[00:37:01] Speaker B: Liverpool Everton table.
[00:37:03] Speaker A: Exactly. It'd be just division in the squad. Whereas what everyone has said is, whatever you think about Gareth Southgate, everybody fucking loves going to the England camp. Now Ferdinand's been asking players, like current players, and they're like, yeah, we love going to England camp. And he was like, we used to hate it because he'd just go. And it'd just be awkward as. Cause they're our rivals. I ain't give it. I don't want him seeing how I train, seeing how I play, learning my tricks, blah, blah, blah. Whereas Spain, they won the Euro 2008, the World Cup 2010 and then the Euros again, 2012. Never been done. That's a mega insane run.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: With a lot of the same squad.
[00:37:35] Speaker A: Their 11 was basically real Madrid and Barcelona Kaka.
I literally just said he was Brazilian kaka like 2 seconds ago as well.
[00:37:44] Speaker B: And you were Francesco Totti.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: Yeah, that very Spanish name.
Italian.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: Yeah. But Pago Sol.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: Who?
[00:37:53] Speaker B: Basketball player.
[00:37:54] Speaker A: He's Spanish Country Papasol.
[00:37:56] Speaker B: Pau Gasol.
[00:37:57] Speaker A: Oh, Pau Go Sol. Is he the one that Kobe fucking shoved out the way?
[00:38:03] Speaker B: Yes, he is. Yeah. Nice.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Ball knowledge. Ball knowledge.
[00:38:06] Speaker B: Ball knowledge. Unlike me.
[00:38:07] Speaker A: Yeah. But that Spain team was literally all Spain, all Real Madrid and Barcelona. And there's similar stories about how they squashed the beef because they hated each other as well.
[00:38:16] Speaker B: Squash it.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: But like Ika Casillas was the Real Madrid captain and Xavi was the basketball.
[00:38:20] Speaker B: Iko Casillas. I know who that is.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: There you go. And they literally. They started David Villa. Yes, thank you. Same team. They literally got in a room and apparently like, look, we need to wrap this up. Nip it in the bud. Cause it's getting in the way.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: Iniesta.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: Iniesta. And he scored the winning goal in the World Cup Final 2010.
[00:38:37] Speaker B: There we go.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: Then you've told me about that goal before.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: Why?
[00:38:40] Speaker A: Because you know about it. Just even proving that you know anything about it, you've told me about, like.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: South Africa World Cup.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: Yes. See, Come on.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: Ball knowledge.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Ball knowledge.
[00:38:48] Speaker B: I'm murking it today. Get me a football quiz right now.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: There you go. Iniesta retired literally like two weeks ago. The man's 40.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: That's my knowledge gone now.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: Yeah, there you go.
[00:38:58] Speaker B: I'm really relying on this.
[00:38:59] Speaker A: He was playing in generations as well, which is bonkers.
[00:39:02] Speaker B: The epicenter of football, they say.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:39:05] Speaker B: Go on, keep it going.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: Anyway, should we move on? I was going to say, I think we can move on. We've got a couple of little bits that we will going to talk about. I mean, robot racism I really wanted to discuss because that's been making me howl. You know, all the AI robots. Clankers. Get them clankers out. Because I've seen.
[00:39:20] Speaker B: What's the funniest possible word for robot racism?
[00:39:24] Speaker A: Do you know what's funny as well? I don't know about you. When you first saw that word, clankers, you were like, perfect. It's fucking perfect.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: It feels offensive, derogatory.
[00:39:31] Speaker A: It feels offensive.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: If I was a robot or an AI, I'm going to ask Chatgpt when I get home, I go, do you find clankers offensive? And he goes, only I get to say clankers. Me and my clankers.
[00:39:40] Speaker A: It's going to be like, you can't say that word to me. So for context, Elon Musk and Tesla and all this, they're releasing all these AI robots.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: Tesla, we did a whole thing on this.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: I'm saying Tesla. It's not Tesla. I'm not doing it. I'm not fucking doing it. Same way that it's Margaret Demar. Not Margaret.
[00:39:54] Speaker B: You sound like a clanker.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: The map is wrong. Yeah, exactly. I'm a human clanger.
[00:39:58] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:39:59] Speaker A: Anyway, and obviously they all look exactly like iRobot and it's super dystopian and really freaky and all this. And they're having conversations with him. And it definitely sounds like some blokes on the phone around the corner answering the questions, because it's super realistic. It's not like Siri going, hello. Like, it's just super weird.
[00:40:14] Speaker B: That's good.
[00:40:14] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyway, I've seen too many memes of like a TikTok of some bloke pretending he was on the phone going, in the years 2052, I don't care. I don't care if he's a Nice robot. My daughter's not bringing that fucking clanker in this house. And I was fucking howling.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: I love it because it's. I love it. It's my favorite thing.
[00:40:33] Speaker A: It took the world like fucking two days to make me cry.
[00:40:36] Speaker B: This is what's going to bring racism to an end.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: It is. Because we're all going to team up against it.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: You know what? We're humans, me and you. Even though I don't like you because I'm from this side of the world and I don't like you because you're that color and you're from that side of the world.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: We both versus them. Exactly.
[00:40:51] Speaker B: This is how.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: And that's why the film, the creator is perfect as well.
[00:40:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Come around my.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: We still haven't watched it together. Don't you wait? But I've seen it and it's worth it.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: Oh, clankers.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Yeah, so we wanted to get on that. But anyway, Me and my clankers. Me and my clankers.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: Clankers in Paris.
[00:41:04] Speaker A: Clankers.
[00:41:05] Speaker B: Ouch. You just broke that trying to laugh.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: I don't even know what I knocked off and broke, but it was fucking worth it.
Ruined that for me now. Anyway, should we move on to our game segment?
[00:41:18] Speaker B: Let's move it on to our main segment.
[00:41:19] Speaker A: Okay. So we've wanted to do this for a while.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: Me and Liam are avid, loyal fans of the sitcom genre big time. Are we not?
[00:41:30] Speaker B: Well, we've seen a lot of them.
[00:41:31] Speaker A: We've seen a lot of them.
[00:41:32] Speaker B: A lot of good ones, a lot.
[00:41:32] Speaker A: Of bad ones, A lot of good ones, a lot of bad ones. We've got a lot of opinions, obviously, as we always do, and whether you care about them or not, we're going to spew them now.
[00:41:39] Speaker B: We are. We've got a tier maker sample up. We've got a tier list ready to go.
If you're listening to this.
If you're listening to this, then you can still enjoy it. But if you're watching this, then certainly they'll be on screen in some capacity.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: Yes. But we're going to try and make it as accessible for our audio listeners. We do.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: We've got 20 shows minus Simpsons because we said we're going to do a separate one for cartoon.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: And we're going to do a quick. Sam's going to say the name of the show. We're going to do a 3, 2, 1, and both give our listing from S to D tier. D's the bottom.
[00:42:07] Speaker A: So we've got superior and then we've got ABCD.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: ABCD. So we're going to do show 1, 3, 2, 1, say our letter and then we're going to discuss briefly because, my God, this will be a 90.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: Could go on forever episode. And before we fall out about it, we need to stress we're going to have to be really ruthless on this.
[00:42:24] Speaker B: We're going to have to be. Even though a lot of these are Esther. And also there's some of these shows which I know better than you and some of these show which you know for sure better than me. So we're just going to take a lead on that. Take it away with the first one, please.
[00:42:35] Speaker A: And again, these are in no order.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: No order.
[00:42:37] Speaker A: Just to clarify. The first one is Brooklyn 99321. S tier. Get it in S tier. And to be honest, I don't even know if we need to fucking talk about it.
[00:42:48] Speaker B: I honestly don't think we need to. There's no show that makes me laugh my arse off like Brooklyn 9 9A. No show that. Hold on. Diversity and inclusion.
[00:42:57] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:58] Speaker B: In such a seamless way.
[00:43:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Doesn't feel forced at all.
[00:43:02] Speaker B: Does not feel forced. And I'm not someone who thinks, oh, this is a bit forced. Yeah.
[00:43:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:43:06] Speaker B: But it's just a flawlessly written show. It makes. I've just finished my, like third rewatch of it top to bottom and I'm still laughing at jokes. I know when the punchline is. I know what's going to happen.
[00:43:17] Speaker A: I honestly agree. I think it's the one I've rewatched the most. It's so good considering I think there's eight series in there. I've definitely watched them top to bottom well over 15, 20 times though.
[00:43:28] Speaker B: I think it was with.
Who is it? I can't remember the original production company.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, they.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: After five seasons, but they did 22. 22. 22, 22. And then they got picked up for three more seasons, whatever. And then they only did like 15 and then the last series only got 10 episodes. That's a show they could have ran foot.
[00:43:47] Speaker A: They really could. Really cool. But again, I feel like.
[00:43:50] Speaker B: But it's perfect.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: Some as we'll get into some sitcoms don't wrap it up very well.
[00:43:54] Speaker B: You're rinsing the towel.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: Yeah. But the likes of like, you know, Peralta leaving the force to become a dad and like, that's the whole thing.
[00:44:03] Speaker B: Cause Holt said, Terry said to Holt.
[00:44:05] Speaker A: In the first episode hit me with.
[00:44:07] Speaker B: Holter's the best detective. The only thing he's not yet Figured out is how to become an adult.
[00:44:12] Speaker A: How to grow up.
[00:44:12] Speaker B: How to grow up. And then the last thing is when Holt says to Peralta, if I had a son and he turned out like you, I'd be very proud of him. And the whole thing is that he didn't have his dad. A father figure Hulk becomes that because he keeps calling him dad by accident. And it ties such a lovely little bow.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: Fantastic character arc.
[00:44:32] Speaker B: Run it up. Next one.
[00:44:33] Speaker A: Absolutely nothing else to say. So there isn't. And I quote it all the time as well, of course. Anyway, next it is the U.S. office. 3, 2, 1.
[00:44:42] Speaker B: S. I think it has to go S again.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: It has to, really, doesn't it?
[00:44:44] Speaker B: S is. And it almost feels cliche because every man and his dog's seen it now. And I don't want to be one of those. I've been watching it for way longer than you.
[00:44:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:52] Speaker B: But I don't think there's a show where I could do a trivia and do better than in any other show than the Post Office because I've seen it so much.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: Yes, I am.
[00:45:00] Speaker B: And although the first couple seasons are not amazing because they tried to copy.
[00:45:05] Speaker A: The British one, it's only the first one. I think the first series is the one that's a bit painful.
[00:45:09] Speaker B: Then it gets slow, it gets. The ball gets rolling, the acting's great. The show's funny as hell. Yeah, but you actually care about this one. In other shows, I'm like, this is a funny show, but I don't care about any of you.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: This is it. And to be fair, when I first completely rinsed it, I didn't even notice it going downhill a little bit when the likes of Michael left and stuff like that. And to be honest, I still enjoyed it. I still don't really care. I enjoyed it, but it's only when you read other people's opinions on it, where they think it bombed and all that. But I was that bought into the characters, which I think is obviously a compliment of the writers. Didn't give a shit. Like Andy Dwyer, like, fucking, you be the manager. I like you. I want to see what happens with you. All this shit. So. And I. That's another one. I mean, to be fair, I always. I almost worry looking at this list now, I'm going to say to every one of them, I've watched this one more than I've watched any of the others.
[00:45:56] Speaker B: Gatekeeping also, there's a lot of these.
[00:45:57] Speaker A: Not more than you. I just mean I've watched that. I get what you're saying, because I still re. Watch that one all the time.
And the other reason why I think this one's a little bit of a gray area is because I was going to say that style of mockumentary.
[00:46:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:11] Speaker A: Ran. Sorry. Walked so others could run.
[00:46:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:46:14] Speaker A: But I feel like that's a bit of an unfair statement because it literally copied the UK Office.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: It did. And just. But then it branched off and did its own thing. It was more.
[00:46:22] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:46:22] Speaker B: So it's one of the few times a US show of an British was better. But it did also run a lot longer.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: There was only three seasons in the uk, but to be fair, I think it had way more legs to go as well. Because I watched the UK one first and I loved it and for a while I preferred it.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: Yeah, but James prefers it.
[00:46:38] Speaker A: Does he? Yeah, I can believe it. But it's such a British humor, isn't it?
[00:46:41] Speaker B: It is, it is big time.
[00:46:42] Speaker A: But. Yeah, but to be fair, the first series of the US Office I thought was a bit painful because it was literally carbon copy. And it's only when they stopped trying to be that and it was when Michael stopped trying to be awkward.
[00:46:52] Speaker B: It's also when Michael starts being the most hated person the whole thing. When he's promising them a big surprise and he's like a bunch of chalky. Like, we want to really like him.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: When you feel sorry for him.
[00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: It's brilliant then.
[00:47:03] Speaker B: Oh, no. Because it's such a well written show.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: Like the Davey the basketball episode when they're in the factory. If Davey Brent was doing that.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:11] Speaker A: Even though it's painful and awkward and British humor, I wouldn't enjoy it. No, but when Michael's doing it, it's different.
It shouldn't be. Roll on the floor laughing funny when Michael goes for a three pointer and just like smashes a window while we're stalling.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: Three pointer. Every time.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: He's like, wet.
[00:47:28] Speaker B: Someone who plays ball. No one shouts three pointers when they're.
[00:47:32] Speaker A: About to shoot and when someone else shoots and scores and he's like, I was open.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't. It's very weird, the whole bus. Jim can play, though.
[00:47:39] Speaker A: Yeah, Jim was all right.
[00:47:39] Speaker B: He has a little like nice, like wrap around behind the back.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Yes, exactly.
[00:47:42] Speaker B: Well, him and.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: Him and. Yeah, him and Roy have a little bit of a thingy, but go on, keep going. Anyway, we'll move on because I think those goat ones are so. They don't need. They don't need arguing for solidified now the Next one. I'm not sure what I'm going to say myself, and I'm not happy with what I'm gonna say.
[00:47:57] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:47:57] Speaker A: But the next one is what we do in the shadows. Okay, are you ready? 3, 3, 2, 1.
[00:48:03] Speaker B: B.
I think also it's. I've only seen it through once. I've been watching as it's come out, and I love the show. It is so for every single person I've turned that show onto, fx, owes me a check.
[00:48:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:16] Speaker B: Cause every person I put it onto, including you.
[00:48:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it's you.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: To me and everyone else, they've gone. That is the funniest show. It's so unique and there's nothing wrong with it. SAA is still A. You're just not the creme de la creme. You're a good show. And speaking of which, the new series has already come out and I haven't seen it yet.
[00:48:32] Speaker A: I didn't even know that. I'm so excited for that. Do you know what? I'm immediately gonna backtrack and say, a's.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: The way it feels.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: It feels. And to be honest, I mean. Sorry. Are you finished?
[00:48:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm finished.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: Because what I will say is I'm gonna go white light in A. The only reason I convince myself B is because I'm looking at the list and I'm thinking, they can't all be ans.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: I agree.
[00:48:50] Speaker A: And just because it's the newest.
[00:48:51] Speaker B: But this is the thing that all these shows, I mean, bar. Are some. Which I'm ready to put in D or F, bar these shows, the only reason they're here is because I've watched it. I'm not going to watch a show I don't enjoy. So that's why they're where they are.
[00:49:04] Speaker A: And let's be fair as well. I don't think there might be a few that some people argue about, but all of these are considered the best. The best of the best. Creme de la carte.
[00:49:13] Speaker B: The most popular.
[00:49:14] Speaker A: The most popular. That's a good word for it.
[00:49:15] Speaker B: Everything bar. Seinfeld.
[00:49:16] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, But I will say I've already rewatched these top to bottom so many times, it's not been out that long.
It's such a unique show.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: It's a great show.
[00:49:28] Speaker A: And again, ironically, perfect to say after the Office, because the Office walks. So shows like this could run a mockumentary about vampires. Can you imagine telling someone 20 years ago that was a thing?
[00:49:37] Speaker B: It would sound awful. It would be awful 20 years ago.
[00:49:39] Speaker A: Exactly. And ironically, I do think it's a bit of a Marmite show because Lilz hates it, but, like, she has no taste. Lilz loves mockumentaries, apparently. I don't see Fresh Meat. Yeah, hasn't seen. Fresh Meat's not a mockumentary.
[00:49:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it is.
[00:49:51] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: Which one am I thinking of?
[00:49:52] Speaker A: Well, she hasn't seen the Office.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: Well, that's bad.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: That's the mockumentary.
The only one she's watched is this country, the British one. Yeah, I love this country, which is great.
[00:50:00] Speaker B: But, like, I didn't add that on the list, actually. Yeah, you need to watch this country you'd like.
[00:50:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very funny.
Anyway. Yeah. So just to summarize, I think it's a super unique show. It's got. If we could arguably put. Categorize all these sitcoms into types of show, and that one will be in its own. And that's why I do think super unique. That's why I think. Fuck what I said first. That deserves to be up there. And the only reason it's not in S is because it's brand new in the grand scheme of things.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: You need to give a bit more time, let it sit still.
[00:50:26] Speaker A: It needs to stand the test of time next.
[00:50:28] Speaker B: Go.
[00:50:30] Speaker A: I feel like we're gonna fall out on this one.
[00:50:32] Speaker B: Go on. What were you saying?
[00:50:33] Speaker A: Community.
3, 2, 1, C, B.
[00:50:39] Speaker B: But it's a really strong B for me. There's like a high tier of B, and I'm like, yeah, up there. And B. Cause I love the show. I've seen it many times, and it's a really creative, well written show for many reasons. I really, really rate it. And I like the characters. Even when Charles Gambino leaves.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:50:56] Speaker B: Oh, he's not Charles Gambino guest in the show. He's Donald Glover.
[00:50:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Of course.
[00:50:59] Speaker B: Even when Donald Glover leaves and Chevy Chase leaves, I still really love this show.
And that's all I've got saying it.
[00:51:05] Speaker A: Well, this is the thing.
[00:51:06] Speaker B: But I'm not ready to put it.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: In A. I switched, like, while we were counting down. 3, 2, 1. I was gonna say B, but I thought, no, it's. And again, only because it doesn't deserve to be on the pedestals of the other ones. For me, I have watched Community quite a few times, but it's one of those shows that you find yourself watching just because it's on.
[00:51:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I get that.
[00:51:25] Speaker A: And like, I'm bought into the characters and want to see what goes on. And again, it Is a bit daft here and there, but like the characters can be a bit painful at times.
[00:51:33] Speaker B: Yeah, fair. But for stereotypes.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I get it. And it. I think it's a bit old fashioned.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: I hear that. I'm totally with it. I'm fine with that.
[00:51:40] Speaker A: And it's as much as these laughing moments in it. There's times where I'm like bit dead. This had a laugh track.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get into that.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:51:48] Speaker B: Because there's some laugh tracks coming up.
[00:51:49] Speaker A: Well, we couldn't have timed it better.
[00:51:50] Speaker B: Go on, let's go.
[00:51:50] Speaker A: So that is in C then. We're happy with that.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: I'm happy with C. Okay.
[00:51:53] Speaker A: I'm happy with C. Now this is where we're going to lose some followers. I already know it.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:51:58] Speaker A: Friends.
[00:51:58] Speaker B: No, come, let's go.
[00:52:00] Speaker A: Three.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: Hold on. Okay, yeah, go on, go on.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, go on.
[00:52:04] Speaker B: No, I just wanted to like recalibrate because I can't see it, but go on. This is perfect.
[00:52:07] Speaker A: Friends. 3, 2, 1.
[00:52:10] Speaker B: B.
[00:52:10] Speaker A: Lower than fucking. Listen, I'm lower than D. Fucking the lowest of lowest.
[00:52:15] Speaker B: OG it is. I mean, I know there was other ones like Full House and whatever else that was.
[00:52:20] Speaker A: I think it's safe to say Friends was.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: Friends is like the pioneering the one of the 90s one. 286 episodes low it might be. 246. Way too many. Don't need that many episodes of it.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: And I didn't when nothing really actually happens as well.
[00:52:37] Speaker B: Watched it when we were kids, when we were younger and really enjoyed it then. He's only watching it now.
[00:52:42] Speaker A: I honestly didn't then either.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: I know it's got a live audience, but I know they dial up the volume on those laugh tracks and give it a good.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: Yeah, everyone laugh for this bit.
[00:52:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And I can't. I can't get behind it if it's got a laugh track.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: Liam, have you ever seen the clips of when they take the laughing track off? It's painfully awkward to watch.
[00:53:00] Speaker B: Painfully awkward to pause sometimes. I've seen it when Ross did something. They pause because they're laughing and then he says he's lying without the laugh track. It's just. He says he's lying and then.
[00:53:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:11] Speaker B: And I can't. But I feel like B also.
[00:53:13] Speaker A: Cause it's fair.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: Some of it's funny. B is as fair as I can give it because of its iconic status. And I had a million like guest stars that are like Oscar winners, Emmy winners and great actors. So.
[00:53:25] Speaker A: Well, I'll be Honest.
[00:53:26] Speaker B: Giving it respect.
[00:53:26] Speaker A: I'll be honest now. I've finished with my dramatism.
[00:53:30] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:53:31] Speaker A: C is as high as I can give it.
[00:53:33] Speaker B: C is what? I'll bank you and say it's as.
[00:53:34] Speaker A: High as I can give it. Because.
[00:53:35] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: And again. I'm gonna use the phrase again.
[00:53:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:53:38] Speaker A: But I'm gonna use it about other shows. I actually think we'll get on. I don't know. We'll get onto the show. I was gonna compare it to later. Yes. And maybe I'll bring this point up when we talk about that show.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: I probably know the show.
[00:53:48] Speaker A: I feel like this show. Obviously it's iconic and it was. I think it was just the shiny new thing. And that's why everybody loved it.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: We've been spoiled by everything on this list.
[00:53:58] Speaker B: Oh my gosh. Big time.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: Because I have tried so hard to watch Friends. I'm probably halfway through season four. I can't.
[00:54:05] Speaker B: It's not grabbed you.
[00:54:06] Speaker A: I can't. I've tried so hard.
I even like the characters. I think they're good characters.
[00:54:12] Speaker B: A lot of logistical things. They're all meant to be broke. How are they affording this?
[00:54:16] Speaker A: In enormous fucking beautiful apartment. Two as well.
[00:54:18] Speaker B: Two apartments in New York. Also like the thing. Do people in Central Perk just never sit in those seats? Do they just wait for those people? Do they have a permanent booking?
[00:54:29] Speaker A: This is it.
[00:54:29] Speaker B: What's their coffee bill? That they can go that often?
[00:54:32] Speaker A: Yeah. They need a life. Man.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: Also none of them work. Apart from Ross, who works but he's rarely at his job.
[00:54:38] Speaker A: Yeah. And obviously Joey's a bit of a failed actor. Isn't he?
[00:54:41] Speaker B: Yeah. So. Which is terribly ironic because then he would go on to be a failed actor.
[00:54:46] Speaker A: Yeah. But doesn't he, like play himself in quite a successful British series? Ironically. But yeah.
I want. I feel like it's like slagging off an old classic Hollywood actor.
[00:54:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:54:57] Speaker A: You don't think is very good anymore. But you're like. I get. They were. I get they had their moment. They had the moment. But. And the only credit I'm gonna give them is that they existed. So shows I actually love.
[00:55:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: Could exist.
[00:55:07] Speaker B: I'll allow it. There's others I'm gonna fight you for.
[00:55:09] Speaker A: I'm not. Yeah. I'm not really happy with it. Because I do think it is. And I mean this the most overrated piece of TV cinema anything I've ever heard of.
[00:55:18] Speaker B: Fair enough. I can't argue.
[00:55:20] Speaker A: People cut their wrist and bleed friends quotes. I fucking don't get it.
[00:55:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:23] Speaker A: It's not funny.
[00:55:24] Speaker B: Get it. Carry on.
[00:55:25] Speaker A: Next.
[00:55:26] Speaker B: Oh, is this gonna be a divisive one?
[00:55:29] Speaker A: I don't know. Go on. It's pretty set in stone for me, but I feel like you won't agree.
[00:55:34] Speaker B: Go on, then.
[00:55:35] Speaker A: Parks and Recreation.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay.
[00:55:38] Speaker A: Three, two, one, S.
That's fine. I can't.
[00:55:43] Speaker B: I think you need to come down a peg. And I love Parks and Rec. I've seen it many times through. But being that it's a. It's a slightly lesser office, although I think it's very funny, and I think it's got some endearing characters.
[00:55:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:55:56] Speaker B: Because it was just. I mean, they were on at the same time, but it was on just after.
[00:56:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:01] Speaker B: They certainly took a little bit. They basically said, let's make Michael, but make him productive.
[00:56:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:06] Speaker B: Let's take this person, but twist him like this. So they've got.
[00:56:09] Speaker A: It's a conveyor belt of the office ideas, isn't it, that they've done. Like, we'll take that message.
[00:56:12] Speaker B: And I think it works really well. It's a very funny show, but I think it's just a sculpture.
[00:56:18] Speaker A: I am prepared to come down.
[00:56:20] Speaker B: Go on. Because I moved.
[00:56:21] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah. And because I am aware that that's one of those ones that I love so much, so I am definitely biased on.
[00:56:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:29] Speaker A: I think it's really funny.
[00:56:31] Speaker B: It is.
[00:56:32] Speaker A: I think it's really well written. And again, I think the character acts are brilliant. But one other thing I will say is, as we said with. I think it was. It was. It was Brooklyn 9 9. The wrapping the show up. I haven't seen many shows do it better than Parks and Rec.
[00:56:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:56:46] Speaker A: Because, like, it's hard to do a workplace.
[00:56:48] Speaker B: What.
[00:56:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:49] Speaker B: What you're gonna do to have Evan retired.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: Well, it's more the fact that like. Like, April was just, like, doing the job because she didn't. Because she didn't care about anything. She's, like, got a job she's actually passionate about. Everybody ends up doing something that they want to, and it's not forced. They all do well. Yeah, they do. Like, the last couple of episodes, there's lots of jumping from past to present, and they wrap it up really, really nicely. And I think it's. I think it's really cool.
[00:57:13] Speaker B: It's by the same guy who does Brooklyn 99 as well.
[00:57:16] Speaker A: Yes, it is.
[00:57:16] Speaker B: Same guy.
[00:57:17] Speaker A: Well, there you go.
[00:57:17] Speaker B: Make sure.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: What's it called?
[00:57:19] Speaker B: Mike Shaw.
[00:57:20] Speaker A: Props to him also, you know, that's.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: The guy who That's Moe's from the Office.
[00:57:24] Speaker A: Fuck off.
[00:57:25] Speaker B: You never knew this?
[00:57:26] Speaker A: No.
[00:57:26] Speaker B: Mo's from the Office. Dwight's cousin is the one who produced both those shows and many other then shows. As a writer.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: I didn't know he was booking nine. Nine? I think. Actually, I think he did know Parks and Rec, but I didn't know he was booking nine.
[00:57:36] Speaker B: It's him. And with someone else.
[00:57:38] Speaker A: What? Everybody on the Office, all the geniuses are the ones you want to think of.
[00:57:41] Speaker B: What's Ricky Gervais? Stephen Mercer, obviously.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: Yeah, but like, I mean, Ryan. I forgot his fucking name.
[00:57:48] Speaker B: BJ Novak.
[00:57:49] Speaker A: Yeah. He's literally like one of the key writers, isn't he?
[00:57:51] Speaker B: Yep. So is Mindy Kalink.
[00:57:52] Speaker A: Yes. Which is crazy actually. That somebody makes sense. I think she's funnier.
[00:57:56] Speaker B: She is funny.
[00:57:57] Speaker A: But anyway, so I think we'll settle on that one. Now this one.
[00:57:59] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:58:01] Speaker A: If this isn't exactly the same answer, I'm going to lose a bit of respect for you.
[00:58:06] Speaker B: Go on in. Well, that means S or F. Well, go on.
[00:58:09] Speaker A: It's. Well, it's D is the bottom. Remember? No D. Because I need this to be fucking clip moment.
[00:58:14] Speaker B: Go on then. Go on.
[00:58:15] Speaker A: Superstore.
[00:58:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:17] Speaker A: Three, two, one.
[00:58:19] Speaker B: Zd.
[00:58:20] Speaker A: Yes. Get it lower than D. Yeah.
[00:58:23] Speaker B: I can't get behind it.
[00:58:25] Speaker A: What a bag of shit. I've got Amy Santiago in and it still is shit.
[00:58:28] Speaker B: I can't get behind it. The only funny person on the show is Cheyenne's boyfriend. You know the guy who's in Fallout. You know the guy who's like 40, but he's got the little mustache.
You know the one who was in the robot?
[00:58:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:58:42] Speaker B: He's in it. And her boyfriend. He's the only joke character.
[00:58:44] Speaker A: Yes, he is.
[00:58:45] Speaker B: I think they force stereotypes too much. After 10 minutes you go, okay, she's the sassy one. She's the scaredy cat. He's the sassy one. They force the stereotypes too much. And I think every sitcom needs to have that.
[00:58:58] Speaker A: No, I get it. Yeah, I get it.
[00:59:00] Speaker B: Jim's the does nothing. Creed's the weirdo. I'm with it.
[00:59:04] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:59:04] Speaker B: But they sort of bend in and out and you find out more and you go, oh, Kevin can play ball. Oh, and he does music. He plays the drums. Yada, yada, yada.
[00:59:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:12] Speaker B: But on this one it feels too forced.
What's the guy called? The main. The guy who's the manager.
[00:59:18] Speaker A: Can't remember.
[00:59:19] Speaker B: Oh, what's his name? Whatever is. I don't like him as a character, whatever he is.
[00:59:24] Speaker A: Hey, do you know how is it? It's only the one series, isn't it? It didn't get loads of series.
[00:59:30] Speaker B: It's got like seven.
[00:59:32] Speaker A: Sorry, what? It's quite new, though. It was only like. No, the first series was literally like four years ago. How's it got seven series?
[00:59:37] Speaker B: Spare seasons.
[00:59:38] Speaker A: But it didn't. It started after Brooklyn Nine. Nine. So how has it got that many series?
[00:59:43] Speaker B: Brooklyn Nine finished time ago.
[00:59:45] Speaker A: Oh, it didn't.
[00:59:46] Speaker B: Must have been. Well, either way.
[00:59:47] Speaker A: Because it was after Covid, wasn't it?
[00:59:48] Speaker B: It was because during COVID Because they had a. They had a Covid.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, they finished after Covid, technically.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they did.
[00:59:55] Speaker A: To go back very briefly to when you said that they tackled the stereotypes really well, Brooklyn9.9 tackled the George Floyd thing exceptionally well.
[01:00:03] Speaker B: People didn't like it though.
[01:00:04] Speaker A: They didn't. It's their lowest rated episode and obviously they couldn't have really won with that.
[01:00:08] Speaker B: No.
[01:00:08] Speaker A: Considering it's an episode about police officers, I thought they did really quite well.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: But yeah, Superstore Bob.
[01:00:13] Speaker A: And anyway, so I can't understand how they can be that many series. I was convinced that it did one or two series and got scrapped.
[01:00:18] Speaker B: Got like six or some.
[01:00:19] Speaker A: That is disappointing.
[01:00:20] Speaker B: You don't think Jonah looks like James?
[01:00:22] Speaker A: I can't even tell you, mate. I don't even think I finished the first series.
[01:00:24] Speaker B: Okay. First. But no, I can't get behind it. I don't think it's a good show.
[01:00:28] Speaker A: I think the idea of it could have been really nice.
[01:00:29] Speaker B: I love a workplace sitcom. Workplace sitcom's the perfect sitcom. And I think it's Bobbins.
[01:00:34] Speaker A: Well, have you seen the film?
I can't remember what it's fucking called. But you know the guy. Good Luck Chuck. The guy who plays Good Luck Chuck with Jessica Alba. Oh, he was literally like, why is.
[01:00:46] Speaker B: He in Superstar or Summit?
[01:00:48] Speaker A: No, but there's a film of him being basically the same thing. There's like all these staff in like a Costco and them just dossing it off and like smoking weed by one of the fucking shelves and all this stuff. And it's a similar vibe probably, but it's a. It's a good vibe because obviously, okay, everyone's trying to. Oh, I think it's called Employee of the Month.
It's like one of those Netflix, Disney.
[01:01:09] Speaker B: Plus, like, we needed you here for this.
[01:01:10] Speaker A: Headless films. It's a good watch when you're not really paying attention. Anyway, that's basically the premise of the film, I don't think. I think the idea was good.
They just didn't execute it terribly. Anyway, so that's going fat in the D, like him. Hey. Right, this is a clean sweep. Now let's get this over with. Modern Family 3, 2, 1, S. Double SS. Let's whack that right to the top. Great show, I think.
[01:01:34] Speaker B: Wonderful show for me.
[01:01:35] Speaker A: Ty.
[01:01:36] Speaker B: Burl's my king.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[01:01:37] Speaker B: He is me and I am him.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: Very much so. Ironically, I think I could pick you out in a good few of these series.
[01:01:45] Speaker B: Pick me by who I am.
[01:01:47] Speaker A: And I'm not going to bring it up because ironically, it's the next one. But Modern Family speaks for itself. Again, I don't think we need to rim it too much. But what I will say is I don't think any show on this list, including my two, my grave favorites, do as well as this. It makes me piss myself laughing. It makes me cry my eyes out. It teaches me life lessons.
[01:02:07] Speaker B: Teaches you lessons.
[01:02:08] Speaker A: It teaches me everything. There's literally everything.
[01:02:12] Speaker B: The character art that Jay goes on from season one of having a gay son and not being cool with it and being a tough bloke from the old times and who listens to Frankie Valli and he's not interested in this modern. And then the journey that he goes on till the end of the series.
[01:02:26] Speaker A: Is there a better character arc in tv?
[01:02:28] Speaker B: No.
[01:02:29] Speaker A: Yes, obviously there probably is.
[01:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:32] Speaker A: But off the top of my head.
[01:02:33] Speaker B: From Avatar, the Last Airbender and Walter White and Breaking Bad, but they're not good examples right now. But for sitcoms, for a cliche of.
[01:02:41] Speaker A: Going from miserable old man to like him actually being very caring, fantastic. And even still, like in the later series where, like, he dips into being a bit like old fashioned stuff, the joke's on him and he's aware of it and it's really funny. I can specifically think of the moment where Cam and Mitch are trying to talk to Lily about, like, her friend at school is like, I think it's a trans child. And they think that Lily is being nasty to this trans child or whatever. And they're trying to talk Lily about it to Lily about it and trying to teach her and everything. And Jay says, well, what do you think? What would you do if Lily came home one day and wanted to be Jason or something like that? And literally Cam and Mitch are both like, well, I think it'd take me a minute because I expected to walk my daughter down the aisle and all that. And Jay was like, well, when it took me a minute to get past my son, getting past the things I thought I was gonna do with my son, it was like, fucking.
[01:03:32] Speaker B: This is what I'm saying.
[01:03:33] Speaker A: And obviously they were laughing about it, but I was like, that is flawless.
[01:03:36] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying.
[01:03:37] Speaker A: Flawless.
[01:03:38] Speaker B: Great show.
[01:03:39] Speaker A: Ironically, all the characters, apart from Lily. Cheers. They dropped the ball when they hired her. And I know it was probably a gamble. Cause she was fucking one.
[01:03:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:46] Speaker A: But Christ, for them to even have to rewrite her character into being a miserable little bitch. Because they pretty much did, didn't they? Which just shows still s tier. Which I think they learned from. Because when they. Do you remember when Joe was born?
[01:03:59] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:03:59] Speaker A: It's a different kid for the first, like, few episodes. I don't think it's full series.
[01:04:03] Speaker B: No.
[01:04:03] Speaker A: And then the actual kid who plays Joe.
[01:04:05] Speaker B: Brilliant.
[01:04:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Literally, the fucking. The mop. He looks. He looks like he's called Karen.
[01:04:11] Speaker B: Yep, he does.
[01:04:12] Speaker A: But he. Do you not think he is an exceptional comedy actor? Like, the way he actually delivers. His comedy is brilliant.
[01:04:17] Speaker B: He's good.
[01:04:18] Speaker A: But again, one final one to talk about Jay's character arc. This literally, I quote all the time. Because I always joke about that. Since me and Lil's got together, she's. Her humor has gone so dark. It's because of you, and it's because of me, and I love it. It makes me laugh. But then when she says something, I'm like, oh, you're like, ooh. I repeat that in front of everyone else. It makes me go back to when Jay is talking about Joe's being like. He's being cheeky to Gloria or whatever. Or he's, like, doing all this stuff that's like Jay seizing himself and Jay. Gloria's telling Jay to pull him up on it. And he's like, it's well funny. And it's like. It's such a compliment because I see myself in it and I love it. And then he sees Joe speak to Manny, like, really poorly or whatever. And he has a go at him. And he finally has a go at him. And he sits down in one of those interview ones. He goes, when you see the things that you like in your kids about yourself, it's brilliant. But when you see the things you don't like about yourself, it's a kick in the nuts. And I was like, when I see Lilz dropping really? And offensive joke, I'm like, oh, that's my fault.
[01:05:18] Speaker B: It's a great example.
[01:05:19] Speaker A: If I saw myself Say that joke. I'd go, oh yeah.
[01:05:22] Speaker B: But yeah, double S tier.
[01:05:24] Speaker A: Absolutely. And honestly, I think I could, without even looking at them. I think I could say four or five of these are my all time favorites. And if I had to go, if we had to do a desert island disc series, TV shows, they'd all be on it. But that show.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
Say less.
[01:05:38] Speaker A: Okay, now next. This is one.
[01:05:40] Speaker B: I gotta guess what it is. Cause what you said about me, me being like em.
[01:05:43] Speaker A: Yeah, go on.
[01:05:44] Speaker B: Is it Marshall Hell make your mother.
[01:05:45] Speaker A: It's absolutely Marshall Hellman.
[01:05:46] Speaker B: Great.
[01:05:46] Speaker A: Should we add 3, 2, 1? Yeah, right. 3, 2, 1B, low B or C B? Low B. I'm gonna go low B.
[01:05:57] Speaker B: And I've not even seen the show inside out. I've watched more of the show on TikTok and on my lunch breaks and then I've watched actual episodes.
[01:06:04] Speaker A: Really?
[01:06:05] Speaker B: Because a lot of clips and I go, I'm gonna watch this. Like I watched the whole part of when Marshall's dad dies. And then the lead up to it with the numbers in the episodes, whatever. It's the only, only I can think of show that has a laugh track.
[01:06:18] Speaker A: On it that's quite.
[01:06:19] Speaker B: That I really like. And it's only because the show is actually funny.
[01:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:22] Speaker B: And the show's very creative.
[01:06:24] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:06:24] Speaker B: Because it has a lot of cutaways to other stuff.
[01:06:26] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:06:26] Speaker B: And it's quite.
What's the word? Like fantastical. It's almost like Family Guy.
[01:06:30] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:06:31] Speaker B: Because he's different.
[01:06:32] Speaker A: Recalling the stories.
[01:06:33] Speaker B: Not only that, they'll be do things that isn't. That aren't humanly popular. The whole thing about here, Barney not being able to take a bad picture.
[01:06:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:40] Speaker B: Unless you take a picture when he's eating and then he's like.
[01:06:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:43] Speaker B: You know.
[01:06:44] Speaker A: And I was watching this like I was watching the other day and they're talking about the mermaid theory, which is basically like a guy in a relationship can't be friends with a girl because of the mermaid theory. That they'll see him. They can't hang out separately.
[01:06:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:06:59] Speaker A: Because when they're in a group, because it's a friend and they're a girl, he says that they look like a manatee. Manatee. Which is like, you know, like a seal or whatever. But then when they see them on their own and they start hanging out with them, they'll start to see them as a mermaid. And it's because of the theory that like when you can't have anything else, something starts to look really good. Cause he was talking about how sailors would look at manatees. And that's where the theory of mermaids came from. Allegedly. Anyway, and talking about the fanatic, the fantastical elements, it was Marshall's hanging out with Robin. Cause they made a comment, oh, they never hang her out separately. And, like, in his head, it shows from her angle. And she's literally, like, dressed as a walrus.
[01:07:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: And it's brilliant. But I honestly have been rewatching this show for the first time in, like, six, seven years for this episode of our podcast.
[01:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah, you disappeared.
[01:07:46] Speaker A: And I could not feel more equipped to answer it.
[01:07:49] Speaker B: Go.
[01:07:50] Speaker A: And I will. And the last episode I watched today, yesterday, was Marshall's dad dying.
[01:07:55] Speaker B: Great. Great one.
[01:07:56] Speaker A: So, ironically, perfect timing.
[01:07:58] Speaker B: He's a good actor.
[01:07:59] Speaker A: Really good actor. And I've got to say, I actually really love the show again, because I bashed it in my first year of university, got it watched in, like, a month. And then when I looked back, I was like, why did I enjoy that? Because when I look back, sometimes I'm like, it's not very funny. It's a bit cringey here and there.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: But you like the characters?
[01:08:16] Speaker A: Yes, I'm rewatching it now. There's some bits that are not Barney. What am I? My character. Sometimes he does things and it's actually well funny. And other times he does things and it's like, this is the most 2000s American TV.
[01:08:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:08:28] Speaker A: And it's painful, but I do feel so equipped for it because it executes some really unique, like, sitcom aspects, like the flashback stuff really well, like the cutaways. Because he's telling his kids the stories. There'll be examples, like when he's telling. He's telling a story about some girl he met who's, like, at the time he thought was really important. But the moral of the story is that she wasn't. And he can't remember her name. So we'll call her Blah blah the next. The whole episode, whenever anyone refers to this person, they call him Blah blah. And it's like that little concept of that Fantasial element was, like, actually really funny. And the character arcs, again, are really good. But then the big criticism for me, and again from someone who was actually really enjoying this, I'm bashing it at the moment. I am enjoying it. Ted is a prick. Ted is a prick. And I'm not talking about the fact that he's unrealistic and romantic and all this stuff. He's actually a bit of a wanker sometimes. And like, and I also can't fuck with just the inbred of the whole situation. The incestual.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: Like, yeah, for that many six people.
[01:09:27] Speaker A: These Marshall, Lily, robbing Barney and Ted. Yeah, Ted and Barney are fucking passing, robbing left, right, and center, like, back and forth, playing tennis with the poor girl. But then suddenly, one minute when the other's into him, the other one's just not, apparently. And then they just switch the feelings on and off, and it's just like, I get it. It's weird. And as much as they draw points to it and make a joke out of it here and there, it's like, so Barney doesn't want to ever see a girl more than once, and then he's suddenly in love with Robin. And then they make a big deal about him being in love with Robin for over a year or two in the show. A year or two. So it's literally like a season or two. And then he gets with her not even five, six episodes later. They are so miserable in the relationship that they make a comment about them both letting themselves go. And the friends have to sit them down and go, you guys aren't happy. And I swear to God, after this year of them being in a relationship and two years of them fancying her, they look at each other and go, oh, should we see it more as friends getting back together and, like, not a breakup. Shake hands like nothing's happened and they just move on.
[01:10:25] Speaker B: I get it. I think, though, maybe we move from B to C because of the ending. Because I hated the ending. Unanimously is, I think, a little painful. That's what me. Because we're seeing a poll of, like, most hated TV show endings, and it was rated from, like, best to work, and it was Dead, Dead Last. Every man and his dog said, Mm, we hated that.
[01:10:45] Speaker A: It was garbage, considering they blue balls those for series and series and series and series.
[01:10:49] Speaker B: So.
[01:10:49] Speaker A: But we'll put it. Should we put in B then?
[01:10:51] Speaker B: No, I think put it in C.
[01:10:53] Speaker A: Okay, let's put it in C. We.
[01:10:54] Speaker B: Got anything in B right now?
[01:10:55] Speaker A: Nothing.
[01:10:56] Speaker B: B would be average. Like, middle of the road, bang average.
[01:10:59] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[01:11:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:11:01] Speaker A: But I do feel like we need to wrap through these rest of ones.
[01:11:03] Speaker B: Yeah, come on, let's keep going.
[01:11:04] Speaker A: But I think it's fairly easy. Big bang theory. 3, 2, 1, D. Yeah, I agree.
[01:11:09] Speaker B: I'm gonna put it in F. I'm into that stuff. I'm into comic books and superheroes, so.
[01:11:13] Speaker A: Why do I not like it?
[01:11:15] Speaker B: Because the characters are insufferable.
[01:11:16] Speaker A: They're not funny.
[01:11:17] Speaker B: And the lifetrack isn't good.
[01:11:18] Speaker A: No.
[01:11:19] Speaker B: And it's not a joke show. It's not a funny show.
[01:11:21] Speaker A: My family love this show and when it was like in its peak, I remember watching it and enjoying it and then I don't know what it was. I must have fucking hit puberty or something.
[01:11:30] Speaker B: And you went, this is terrible.
[01:11:31] Speaker A: It's as if the veil just dropped. And I was like, what is this shit that I'm watching? Garbage. Not funny. But again, should be. It's just not.
[01:11:39] Speaker B: Chuck it at the bottom of the list with superstars.
[01:11:40] Speaker A: Bottom of the list. This one is definitely a one sided one.
[01:11:43] Speaker B: Go on.
[01:11:43] Speaker A: Peep show. 3, 2, 1.
[01:11:46] Speaker B: B. I was gonna say B for you for sake because you've seen a lot more than me and this is one of your favorite shows and the handful of episodes I've seen are really funny but I can't speak in it. So you can put it where you like.
[01:11:55] Speaker A: I honestly would put it higher than B.
[01:11:57] Speaker B: You can put it higher than B.
[01:11:58] Speaker A: Well, I would put it in A. But again, I'm very, very, very conscious that with this show it is the most marmite of shows.
[01:12:04] Speaker B: I get it.
[01:12:05] Speaker A: There's so many people that watch it and for the reasons I love it.
[01:12:07] Speaker B: I think it's the talking head thingy.
[01:12:08] Speaker A: For the reason I love it, they hate it. I think it's the most unique show in the world.
[01:12:12] Speaker B: I get it.
[01:12:12] Speaker A: And me and David will quote this.
[01:12:15] Speaker B: Oh, you will? All the time.
[01:12:16] Speaker A: I can't live my life without doing my head. That they do and like peep show quotes. And it's just the most ridiculous hilarious show. It has no other element to it other than just being ridiculous and funny. And I think it does it flawlessly certainly. So I am actually going to put that in a run it up. But it is very British.
[01:12:33] Speaker B: I'm happy with that.
[01:12:34] Speaker A: And again, I don't know if they did, but if they did, I think they did actually. Do they do an American version?
[01:12:38] Speaker B: They tried. It was terrible.
[01:12:39] Speaker A: Can you imagine how awful that would be?
[01:12:40] Speaker B: They did this country in American version. That is such a British show. It doesn't make any sense. In America they just made them hillbillies.
[01:12:45] Speaker A: Absolutely everyone hated it. This next one which go on.
[01:12:48] Speaker B: I know certain ones come up they made an American version of and it was terrible about a certain group of.
[01:12:54] Speaker A: Sixth form students and they've already done it.
[01:12:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[01:12:57] Speaker A: Oh, I thought you said they're doing a new one. Right. Well that's coming up. So next one I'm very passionate about, but we're gonna have to keep this short. Go on New Girl.
[01:13:06] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:13:06] Speaker A: Three, two, one.
[01:13:08] Speaker B: A plus.
[01:13:09] Speaker A: Oh, Okay.
[01:13:11] Speaker B: I can't put everything else, but I think it's the funniest show. And every character is brilliantly written, and I think it's a great show. It's a really strong A for me.
[01:13:20] Speaker A: I can't really budge on S. I think this and Modern Family. My perfect show.
[01:13:25] Speaker B: Put it in S. I'm fine with.
[01:13:26] Speaker A: It, personally, if you're okay with that.
[01:13:27] Speaker B: For me, I'm perfect with New Girl With.
[01:13:29] Speaker A: Because I think the characters are the most. Each and every one of them is the most hilarious characters. In their own way.
[01:13:35] Speaker B: They are.
[01:13:35] Speaker A: And this is the one where I feel like it's the biggest rip off of Friends, but in the best way. I feel like Friends had to. Had to walk so New Girl could run. They're even in a fucking loft. Just random mates in New York or whatever. Well, they're obviously. They're not in New York. Chicago, I think. But, like, it's. It's literally. It's like someone took the ingredients.
[01:13:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:13:55] Speaker A: No Friends, but I adore it.
[01:13:58] Speaker B: Did you Hot Ones versus with Schmidt and Coach?
[01:14:01] Speaker A: No, I saved it. I haven't watched it. No.
[01:14:03] Speaker B: They act so much like Schmidt and Coach.
[01:14:05] Speaker A: Schmidt is one of the best characters in sitcom.
[01:14:08] Speaker B: I love him. He's great.
[01:14:09] Speaker A: You should hate him. You should hate him.
[01:14:11] Speaker B: We don't hate him. He's so funny.
[01:14:12] Speaker A: Hilarious.
[01:14:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:14:13] Speaker A: I mean, even the douche jar, like, he's supposed to be insufferable.
[01:14:16] Speaker B: He's supposed to be a guy, you fuck.
[01:14:17] Speaker A: He makes me howl.
[01:14:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:14:19] Speaker A: I love him.
[01:14:19] Speaker B: Winnie the Bish is my favorite character. I think it's great. And he's in the SNL movie, so I'm looking forward to watching that.
[01:14:24] Speaker A: But we need a bitch. He's another one. He shouldn't be that funny, but he fucking really, really is.
[01:14:27] Speaker B: Because his character. Things don't. Like, he loves pranks, but they're either way too small or too big.
[01:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:33] Speaker B: Like, the biggest one is that they made them think that they all had to, like, move out.
[01:14:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:14:37] Speaker B: And they got as far as moving everything out. It was all just banter.
[01:14:40] Speaker A: The ending of that show is one of the worst endings by far. But then the same. That's it. Winnie the Bish.
[01:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:14:48] Speaker A: Pranks them on, thinking they've got to move out of the loft.
[01:14:50] Speaker B: Oh, was that the end?
[01:14:51] Speaker A: That was the end. And they all just Go their separate ways. So it's not. But then at the same time, what I've kind of got of artistically be loyal to is how else do you end that? That is what Winnie the Bish does.
[01:15:01] Speaker B: Feels about right.
[01:15:02] Speaker A: So maybe it is right.
[01:15:03] Speaker B: S Tier.
[01:15:03] Speaker A: So S Tier.
[01:15:04] Speaker B: Keep it going.
[01:15:04] Speaker A: Okay. I think apart from we got to.
[01:15:06] Speaker B: Rattle through some of these.
[01:15:07] Speaker A: I think we can rattle through some of these.
[01:15:08] Speaker B: Let's go.
[01:15:08] Speaker A: The Inbetweeners.
[01:15:09] Speaker B: Yeah. 3, 2, 1.
[01:15:11] Speaker A: S tier.
[01:15:12] Speaker B: No, I don't need to say anything.
[01:15:13] Speaker A: It's a staple of British comedy.
[01:15:15] Speaker B: When I said about the US Office, no show. I could do a trivia and I would get more. I could do this more. I could monologue all three seasons.
[01:15:21] Speaker A: I think I'd struggle purely because it was that long ago. And it's so hard to rewatch. It's not on anything, is it?
[01:15:27] Speaker B: I've got it on dvd. That's how I've rewatched it so much. I've got the box set.
[01:15:30] Speaker A: There you go. Brilliant.
[01:15:30] Speaker B: S Tier.
[01:15:31] Speaker A: But I honestly, I think we could wrap that one up pretty quickly. Like, what's this? To say it's fucking flawed. That is. Honestly, I think it's foundations of a whole generation's humor.
[01:15:39] Speaker B: Yep. 100%.
[01:15:40] Speaker A: Can you say that about any other show? No, absolutely not.
[01:15:42] Speaker B: Dope.
[01:15:43] Speaker A: Next one.
I'm going to, uh. Oh, arrested development, basically. 3, 2, 1.
[01:15:51] Speaker B: I just haven't seen enough of it.
[01:15:53] Speaker A: And I'm fine with it.
[01:15:54] Speaker B: I've watched a fair portion of season one and I've seen a lot of clips. A lot of clips. And maybe because I don't know the characters inside out, but I didn't laugh my ass off like I did. I love Jason Bateman.
[01:16:04] Speaker A: Yeah, he's amazing.
[01:16:05] Speaker B: And is it Job?
[01:16:09] Speaker A: Yeah, Job. I love all his name.
[01:16:12] Speaker B: Will Arnett.
[01:16:13] Speaker A: Yeah, that is his name. Well done. Yeah. Yeah, he's in that, like, sketch detective show where they have to kind of go, batman. Oh, fuck. Yeah, he is.
[01:16:22] Speaker B: I just. I just didn't find it as funny as I thought I would have done. But maybe I just need to watch more.
[01:16:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:16:26] Speaker B: So I'm fine with it being B. I'm. That's middle of the road.
[01:16:29] Speaker A: Listen, I can meet you in Average. I can meet you in B. Because I don't think it's fair to put a show in A. Deserves be in massive.
[01:16:36] Speaker B: I agree.
[01:16:36] Speaker A: It won a lot of awards and.
[01:16:38] Speaker B: It was around for a while.
[01:16:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it was around for a while. But I have to say, it's genuinely the Cleverest show I've ever seen. You can tell that the Russo brothers written it. I wrote it because it's just one episode. Sorry. A season could be the same two days, but from every character's angle and the way it overlaps is flawless. But it's the kind of humor that is. I don't even want to say clever humor, because it's like. It's obviously not clever. Clever eyebrow humor, but it's. No, not even necessarily that, because it is daft. But it's like you have to get tied into the characters and understand the characters to then find it really, really funny.
[01:17:11] Speaker B: I get that.
[01:17:12] Speaker A: And it's one of my favorites. It's got a special place for me.
[01:17:14] Speaker B: Go on, then. Next one.
[01:17:15] Speaker A: The it crowd.
[01:17:17] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:17:18] Speaker A: Three, two, one. See?
[01:17:20] Speaker B: See? Feels fine. It doesn't even mean it's bad. No, you just bang up. This should be the majority.
[01:17:25] Speaker A: It's really good, but it's a moment in time.
[01:17:27] Speaker B: Moment in time.
[01:17:28] Speaker A: I struggle to rewatch it these days.
[01:17:30] Speaker B: Yeah. That's got a laugh track as well, hasn't it?
[01:17:32] Speaker A: It does, yeah. And it is quite funny. But it's like. It's very early 2000s British. That got me through my GCSes, because whenever my parents thought I was revising, I was watching it. Crap.
[01:17:41] Speaker B: No, it's good.
[01:17:42] Speaker A: Chris O'Donnell, Chris O'Donnell and Richard, they were really funny.
[01:17:45] Speaker B: They're good pairing.
[01:17:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's a very clever show.
[01:17:48] Speaker B: It is indeed.
[01:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Next, fresh meat.
Three, two, one. B.
[01:17:56] Speaker B: B feels fair.
[01:17:57] Speaker A: Beef feels fair again. It kind of cemented a generation of people out of, like, in the uk.
[01:18:04] Speaker B: It's shot in wally range.
[01:18:05] Speaker A: They walk past my halls.
[01:18:07] Speaker B: Local pub. The King's Arms is at the end of my street.
[01:18:11] Speaker A: I've gigged at the King's Arms. Yeah, I know it well. Yeah.
[01:18:13] Speaker B: The end of my street.
[01:18:14] Speaker A: It's mental, innit? It is actually very funny.
[01:18:17] Speaker B: It's a great show.
[01:18:17] Speaker A: It is daft.
[01:18:18] Speaker B: Good characters. You know, Vos.
[01:18:20] Speaker A: British standpoint. Yeah. She's massive now, isn't she?
[01:18:22] Speaker B: Loki's wife.
[01:18:24] Speaker A: Yes, I did know that. Yeah. Well, she's.
[01:18:26] Speaker B: And they've got kids.
[01:18:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And she's the villain in the Marvels, isn't she?
[01:18:28] Speaker B: Yep. That really good movie, which we loved.
[01:18:32] Speaker A: Absolutely. But, yeah, I think that's a pretty easy cleanup.
[01:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:35] Speaker A: Go on, then.
The next one.
[01:18:37] Speaker B: Go on.
[01:18:38] Speaker A: Derry girls.
[01:18:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay.
[01:18:40] Speaker A: Three, two, one.
[01:18:41] Speaker B: B. Another good B.
[01:18:42] Speaker A: Another good B.
[01:18:43] Speaker B: It's another good show. Another good show.
[01:18:45] Speaker A: Have you watched it, then, properly?
[01:18:46] Speaker B: All of it.
[01:18:46] Speaker A: Good. Yeah.
[01:18:47] Speaker B: All of it.
[01:18:47] Speaker A: Through my family. Love this series. I do, I do. It has me in stitches. And the only reason I'd say it might deserve to be higher is because the way it tackles the political unrest in Ireland. Ireland, by all being in the foreground, is actually really clever, considering it's a daft comedy.
[01:19:06] Speaker B: They go through that stuff.
[01:19:07] Speaker A: Really clever.
[01:19:08] Speaker B: The actual beef that was going on.
[01:19:09] Speaker A: And obviously it represents what those kids lives would have been like. They wouldn't have thought about the big picture, what's going on. They're just walking past these blokes with rifles. It's really clever.
[01:19:17] Speaker B: I had Liam Neeson in the last season.
[01:19:18] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. But it doesn't deserve to be an A and S purely because, again, it's not A. Big enough. It's not big enough for me.
[01:19:24] Speaker B: It's a good B.
[01:19:24] Speaker A: It's a good, solid B.
[01:19:26] Speaker B: There's strong in each category for me. Some that are at the edge of theirs, some at the top.
[01:19:30] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:19:30] Speaker B: That's a good middle of the line.
[01:19:32] Speaker A: Absolutely. The next one.
Friday night dinner.
[01:19:39] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:19:40] Speaker A: Three, two, one.
[01:19:43] Speaker B: B plus.
[01:19:43] Speaker A: Yeah, B plus is fair.
[01:19:45] Speaker B: It's a B. Super strong B. Because I love that show.
[01:19:48] Speaker A: I do.
[01:19:48] Speaker B: Everyone still says shalom.
[01:19:50] Speaker A: Shalom. Yeah.
[01:19:51] Speaker B: Or does the impression of Jim and his dog Winston.
[01:19:55] Speaker A: For my birthday in 2020, my friends shout out. Dan Pinder especially got me a video of Jim reading out like he was eating pineapples. He was eating a jar of pineapples, like, wishing me happy birthday. And it's fucking brilliant.
[01:20:09] Speaker B: You know what? Watching it back. And only because we both watched the little documentary series they did before Paul Ritter died and talk about it. And the funniest moment, I think in the show, they're all gym moments.
[01:20:18] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[01:20:19] Speaker B: The funniest moment, absolutely is where he pours the tin of red paint on himself and he goes, blood. So much blood. And obviously it's paint. And they're like, jim, it's not blood, it's paint. And he just keeps saying blood. Oh, it's the funniest thing ever. And then he's like touching all of her curtains, trying to wipe it off again. He's the best.
[01:20:38] Speaker A: That character should be. Not funny.
[01:20:41] Speaker B: I think if he wasn't in the show and they just did it was just them, it would not be a funny show.
[01:20:45] Speaker A: And really think about it. That character should be so offensive because he's very clearly.
[01:20:51] Speaker B: He's got a lot of things going on.
[01:20:52] Speaker A: Got learning disabilities, you know, neurodivergence. He's an sen Kid. Special education.
[01:20:57] Speaker B: He's at your school?
[01:20:58] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely.
[01:20:58] Speaker B: Yeah. So not for being a naughty boy.
[01:21:00] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. But fucking hell. Is he funny?
[01:21:02] Speaker B: Yeah, he's brilliant.
[01:21:03] Speaker A: But again, I think it's a bit of a staple for British humor. And again, I still quote that all the time, as you do.
[01:21:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I do.
[01:21:08] Speaker A: And again, I think it's still a bit of a foundation of many of my friendships.
[01:21:11] Speaker B: Wonderful show.
[01:21:12] Speaker A: It's. I think. Unless it's.
[01:21:13] Speaker B: I think Johnny and Anna are a bit insufferable. I think the banter kind of fought even though the writer had a brother called Johnny or Adam. Whichever one, he's not. I always look at him, think, that doesn't feel like how I've got two brothers and I don't feel like I ever acted like that.
[01:21:28] Speaker A: They're weird, aren't they?
[01:21:29] Speaker B: The salt in the glass and thing. I'm like, it's a bit kind of dead banter.
[01:21:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:21:32] Speaker B: I don't know why. I just never loved it.
[01:21:33] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:21:34] Speaker B: Brotherly thing.
[01:21:35] Speaker A: And I think they only get away with it because the dad is like, dad banter.
[01:21:39] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:21:39] Speaker A: Like, you know, eating corned beef that's 25 years old.
[01:21:42] Speaker B: Never got a shirt on.
[01:21:42] Speaker A: Like, never got a shirt that shouldn't be boiling. Exactly. It's bloody boiling. But, like, as the show writer said, he was like, that's like, what it was like. So maybe that's. Maybe they were like that.
[01:21:52] Speaker B: I don't know either way.
[01:21:53] Speaker A: But again, British standpoint. Let's keep it there.
[01:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah, go on. And we've got two more.
[01:21:56] Speaker A: We've got two left.
[01:21:57] Speaker B: Go on, then, read them out.
[01:21:58] Speaker A: This is one I forgot about.
[01:21:59] Speaker B: I can't even remember what we've got left now. I feel like we've done them all.
[01:22:02] Speaker A: And for one moment, I'm going to make my decision.
[01:22:05] Speaker B: What's that?
[01:22:06] Speaker A: Always sunny. Oh, is.
[01:22:06] Speaker B: Are you doing your hat?
[01:22:07] Speaker A: No, no, no. Always sunny in Philadelphia.
[01:22:09] Speaker B: Come three, two, one, S. No question.
[01:22:12] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:22:12] Speaker B: To be running for that long and shit. Still has been going for 17 years. And they're about to. No. Is either 17 years about to shoot season 16 years.
[01:22:20] Speaker A: About two.
[01:22:21] Speaker B: 17.
[01:22:21] Speaker A: I think they're shooting series 18.
[01:22:23] Speaker B: I think it's 18, then 17 years, which is crazy. And I've put. That's another one that I would have checked from fx.
[01:22:29] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:22:30] Speaker B: I put so many people on that show.
[01:22:31] Speaker A: I put crazy hours into that show. Me.
[01:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And they're so different from everyone else.
[01:22:35] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:22:35] Speaker B: Because they take so many more risks.
[01:22:37] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[01:22:38] Speaker B: Charlie says the N word. And the R word in one episode.
[01:22:44] Speaker A: Hard R. Frank's dropping them left, right and center.
[01:22:46] Speaker B: Frankenstein all the time.
[01:22:47] Speaker A: How have you taken, like, a household name like Danny DeVito and made him.
[01:22:51] Speaker B: And made him say F, A, G, G, O, T. Yeah, Many, many times. Absolutely mad.
[01:22:57] Speaker A: That's another thing, considering how ridiculous and hilarious it is.
[01:23:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:23:01] Speaker A: Like, obviously it's really funny, just like all the other shows. But what I will say is it's so clever how them being so offensive and backwards.
I think the reason they get away with it is because the joke's on them.
[01:23:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. They're all.
[01:23:13] Speaker A: The joke's on them being backwards and.
[01:23:15] Speaker B: Being, like, off topic really quickly. Did you see that? They're redoing American Psycho?
[01:23:20] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:23:20] Speaker B: And everybody in their dog wants Glenn Howerton. Dennis to play him, even though he's way too old to play Patrick Bateman. Yeah, well, please make him play, because he is Patrick Bateman in the show.
[01:23:32] Speaker A: Yes, he is.
[01:23:33] Speaker B: He's perfect for it.
[01:23:34] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:23:34] Speaker B: Because he's trying to keep. He's someone who cares about his appearance. He's very vain. He's the golden God.
[01:23:39] Speaker A: He's a sociopath.
[01:23:40] Speaker B: He's a sociopath. He. Oh, the bit when he says to Dee, he goes, I should have you killed and turned into my skin luggage. I'll even add you to my collection.
And she's like, what? You have a luggage? A skin luggage collection. She goes, what about the smell, you bitch?
[01:23:55] Speaker A: Haven't thought about the smell.
[01:23:57] Speaker B: Oh, it's just the best show ever.
[01:23:59] Speaker A: But, like, there is literally nothing like that show, though, is there, really? No, it's fucking daft and it's well funny.
[01:24:03] Speaker B: They do an Abbott elementary crossover.
[01:24:05] Speaker A: Yes, I heard. And I haven't seen Abbott Elementary. My sister telling me to watch it.
[01:24:08] Speaker B: Maybe we'll add it to the list.
[01:24:09] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. But for now, it's such a unique show and a special moment, I will say, for when Mac does that dance.
[01:24:17] Speaker B: Oh, it's so good for his dad.
[01:24:19] Speaker A: How on earth.
[01:24:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:24:21] Speaker A: Does that interpretation make you cry?
[01:24:23] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:24:24] Speaker A: That show, like, maybe that episode made me tear up. And I guess that was kind of exactly the point, wasn't it? Like, because interpretive dance.
[01:24:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:24:33] Speaker A: Do we look like blokes that watch interpretive dance?
[01:24:35] Speaker B: No, but that's when Frank says, I get it, I get it. He goes, I get it. And he's got tears in his eyes.
[01:24:41] Speaker A: Is that not alone? Like, what a moment in tv. I'm getting actual goosebumps thinking about it.
[01:24:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, big time.
[01:24:47] Speaker A: Fantastic. And on that moment alone, for me, it deserves to be in a God tier.
[01:24:51] Speaker B: For me, it's big time S tiers.
[01:24:53] Speaker A: Because if you've got a moment that's that definable and that iconic, you're in an S tier for me, big time. And you are. And we're leaving. Go on. Such a brilliant one. Go on.
[01:25:03] Speaker B: Which one are we leaving? I have no idea what we even have left.
[01:25:05] Speaker A: I can't remember Benidorm.
[01:25:07] Speaker B: Okay. You've seen a lot more Benidorm than me as well.
[01:25:09] Speaker A: I'm fucking. I've been to the hotel. I've met the cast.
[01:25:11] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you have.
[01:25:12] Speaker A: Yep, by accident.
[01:25:14] Speaker B: That's pretty cool. I'm gonna let you take the lead.
[01:25:15] Speaker A: On this one and I love Benidorm and it's a staple in my household. Another greatest strong one, though, what I'm gonna say. So are you even gonna give us a number?
[01:25:23] Speaker B: I just wanna hear yours.
[01:25:24] Speaker A: I'm gonna say B.
[01:25:25] Speaker B: B, I thought you were gonna be.
[01:25:26] Speaker A: Purely because the first half of it is hilarious. Really funny, really daft. Proper British humor. Northern humor, I'm gonna say. Really?
[01:25:34] Speaker B: Northern humor is a good one.
[01:25:35] Speaker A: And to be fair, if we were gonna go into sub categories, I'd be throwing like, the Royal Family and other northern shows in that are just like staple holds. But this one became a nationwide love. But it was really Northern humour. Everybody at the hotel's pretty much Northern.
[01:25:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:25:49] Speaker A: But the second half of the series is. It fucking becomes Coronation Street. It's crap.
[01:25:54] Speaker B: Yeah. So B feels about right for you, Not C?
[01:25:56] Speaker A: I think it feels about right for you.
[01:25:57] Speaker B: Is it A low B or a strong B?
B plus or B?
[01:26:00] Speaker A: Honestly, I'm not even sure because I'm gonna. It couldn't be more middle because B is literally. There's two below it and two above it. And I think half of the series is really good and half of them are really bad. So I'm gonna keep it there and we're gonna have a couple of special mentions for. There's some really wacky ones, like the likes of Shameless, I think is not.
[01:26:15] Speaker B: There was someone else. We both remembered and we went, there's too many.
[01:26:18] Speaker A: Too many. I mean, we've done it. We're gonna do a whole separate one for cartoon shows the likes of Family Guy and American Dad, Futurama, Simpsons, blah, blah. Yeah, but. But the other one I thought of is when I said the Royal Family. Have you ever seen the Windsors?
[01:26:29] Speaker B: No. Oh, you have? No. You have.
[01:26:30] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[01:26:31] Speaker B: Because it's.
Oh, My gosh, what's the guy called? The one that does Harry and Harry.
Oh, not Eckford obviously.
[01:26:41] Speaker A: That's me.
[01:26:41] Speaker B: Harry Enfield.
[01:26:43] Speaker A: Oh yes, he plays Charles. Yes, I think it's Harry Enfield.
[01:26:45] Speaker B: It is Harry Enfield. He is a legend and I really love his thing. I've only ever seen clips.
[01:26:50] Speaker A: If you like the crown, watch that show. Because if it's the crown, if it was a spoof, I get it. I love it. I have so many of my Snapchat memories from like a six month period a couple of years ago are just quotes from that. There's literally. It's obviously it's a spoof piss take of the Royal family and how they've got away with it. I do not know.
[01:27:08] Speaker B: I get it.
[01:27:08] Speaker A: Camilla is an actual witch and a racist. Like Charlie is just awful. They're all awful. Andrew's like, they even make comments about it. Like these Beatrice and his daughters, they make a comment about, oh, are you Prince Andrew's?
And they're like, yeah, our daddy's the one that was in Pizza Express in World King and says the. And then just move on. Don't say anything else about it. But like there was literally what lives with me so much is that they've ran with like tiny little tabloid stories about the Royal family. Like when they were saying that Kate's like a gypsy because like a fucking distant auntie's like a traveler or whatever. And it's literally what an episode where she goes to a fair and meets her ex husband. She was married to some gypsy and she literally says to him, she's like, no, we're not getting back together. You sold me for a can of Fanta. And he goes, I wanted a drink.
[01:28:00] Speaker B: You showed me that. That is funny.
[01:28:01] Speaker A: I was fucking rolling. Oh my God, it's so daft. But obviously a show like that cannot be on this list. No, it absolutely can't be.
[01:28:10] Speaker B: But that I'm really happy with the tears.
[01:28:12] Speaker A: I can't believe that's gone so well.
[01:28:14] Speaker B: It's gone very well. I thought there'd be a lot more beefing but I'm really pleased with that. It's a good spread.
[01:28:19] Speaker A: Yeah. My goats are in. My goats and my babies have. You know. Cool with everything on that list as is totally fair.
[01:28:24] Speaker B: I think we should say for anyone listening, please comment on wherever you're listening to this below.
[01:28:29] Speaker A: Yep.
[01:28:30] Speaker B: Did we get them right? Did we get them wrong?
[01:28:32] Speaker A: Did we miss any? Yeah.
[01:28:33] Speaker B: Did we miss. What's your favorite show?
[01:28:34] Speaker A: What's your favorite show? Absolutely.
[01:28:36] Speaker B: Because to be fair, we're going to.
[01:28:37] Speaker A: Have missed loads of sitcoms because I also think there's a fair line between what sitcom is.
[01:28:41] Speaker B: There'll be a lot. Someone got WandaVision as their sitcom. They technically had a first episode of a sitcom.
[01:28:46] Speaker A: Technically.
[01:28:46] Speaker B: So they did.
[01:28:48] Speaker A: But special mention for the end.
[01:28:50] Speaker B: Go on.
[01:28:50] Speaker A: You've been enjoying Agatha.
[01:28:52] Speaker B: I have.
[01:28:52] Speaker A: I'm two episodes in.
[01:28:53] Speaker B: Surprisingly really good.
[01:28:55] Speaker A: I'm not enjoying it.
[01:28:56] Speaker B: They did a big reveal last episode, so you need to watch it.
[01:28:58] Speaker A: I feel like when I was watching she Hulk to just get dead.
[01:29:02] Speaker B: No, it's way better than she Hulk.
[01:29:03] Speaker A: I'm not enjoying it though, bro.
[01:29:04] Speaker B: No, it's good.
[01:29:05] Speaker A: It's just barmy.
[01:29:07] Speaker B: It is a bit Barbie. But when the more you watch it. Yeah. You don't like the down down the Witches Road song. Whatever.
[01:29:12] Speaker A: Oh my God.
[01:29:13] Speaker B: I don't mind this song.
[01:29:14] Speaker A: Fucking fought like daft women singing a.
[01:29:17] Speaker B: Shit song around them you won't love. That's not the only song they're gonna do. They do it a few more times. They do that song once more and they do like a 70s glam rock thing and it's pretty good.
[01:29:28] Speaker A: Well, I can't wait to keep watching it.
[01:29:30] Speaker B: You're gonna love it. You know how you've seen second episode you've done. Have you seen the first trial where they're in the house and they all dress different, they all look different. You're not that far yet.
[01:29:37] Speaker A: They've just opened the door.
[01:29:38] Speaker B: Okay, never mind then.
[01:29:39] Speaker A: The hole. Yeah.
[01:29:40] Speaker B: Okay. I don't want to say anything more, but watch it. You'll like this bit. So supposedly. But anyway, do you want to wrap it up?
[01:29:45] Speaker A: Anyway, let's wrap it up. So thank you everybody for tuning in to our sitcom based episodes.
[01:29:51] Speaker B: And let us know if there's another tier list you want us to do.
[01:29:54] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:29:54] Speaker B: Because we will rank anything.
[01:29:55] Speaker A: We fucking love a tier list.
[01:29:57] Speaker B: We love a tier list.
[01:29:58] Speaker A: We've done our top 10 albums, we.
[01:30:00] Speaker B: Did PS1 games, we did our rappers. We've done quite a few. So we're yet to do TV show as a whole. We're yet to do cartoons, we're yet to do directors.
[01:30:08] Speaker A: I don't even want to do movies. But I guess we're gonna have to try.
[01:30:11] Speaker B: We'll have to maybe do genre of movies.
[01:30:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. And then I also want to do like rock albums and stuff because me and Liam actually do like more than hip hop.
[01:30:18] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? Yeah.
[01:30:19] Speaker A: If you could believe that. Believe it. But obviously we can do that. We need a tier list that's not gonna include. Can you guess?
[01:30:25] Speaker B: Give us some guesses? Yeah.
[01:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah, for sure. But anyway, you let us know what you want from us.
[01:30:30] Speaker B: And until then.
[01:30:31] Speaker A: Because we'll ramble about it.
[01:30:32] Speaker B: We will.
[01:30:32] Speaker A: Until then. Until then.
[01:30:34] Speaker B: Until then. See you later.
[01:30:35] Speaker A: If I don't see you for a week, I'll see it through window.
[01:30:38] Speaker B: Over and out.
[01:30:38] Speaker A: Right. Over and out. Thank you. Good night.
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