Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Right. Welcome to the Fieldwear podcast brought to you by Fieldwear Studios. We are on series two. We made it. We made it. We made it. We made it.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: Indeed we did.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: We've got so much cool shit coming for you right now.
[00:00:22] Speaker B: A lot of cool artists coming.
[00:00:23] Speaker A: A lot of cool artists, a lot of cool creatives. We are so excited to launch this off. It's quicker than you all expected. Liam hit us with an introduction of our debut premiere guest.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: The debut can't be done lightly. You need someone. You need a big heavy hitter for it.
[00:00:37] Speaker A: Big roll out.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: So we've got a music artist with an international bag. Flavours from the Netherlands, flavours from Ghana. The man who tells Siri to set an alarm for his opponents for sleeping on him. One fifth of the black market Gallery. And the man who fears nobody.
[00:00:55] Speaker C: Kingston, come.
I need a clip of that intro.
[00:00:58] Speaker B: Yeah, you'll get it. Thank you. I was working that on a busy train on the way here.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: Get on.
[00:01:03] Speaker C: Busy truck now. Fuck it up.
[00:01:05] Speaker B: No, I didn't. Mother's life. I didn't hear the references. Did you not hear the references?
[00:01:09] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: Netherlands, Ghana. One fifth. The black market Gallery.
Cha GBT wasn't used there. This is original. Thoughts?
[00:01:19] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: I'm right.
[00:01:20] Speaker C: This is original for one half of the splash brothers.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: Yeah, no doubt. Well, this is something I said we needed to do before we go in. Head noticed they're all wearing the same glasses and Sam doesn't rate them.
[00:01:30] Speaker A: I don't rate them at all. Me.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: We've done it for the intro.
[00:01:33] Speaker A: No, I'm gonna swap to my nice one.
[00:01:35] Speaker C: Come on.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah, they do look good, boy.
[00:01:39] Speaker B: Anyway, bosh.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: Right, so kick us off the new format. You have got used to me and Liam trying shit on our own.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: And now we're gonna chat shit with guests.
[00:01:48] Speaker C: Come one.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: That's effectively it. Yeah, I'm joking.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Kingston, how you doing today? Thanks for coming on the show.
[00:01:52] Speaker C: Not bad. Come on, man.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: Thanks for kicking off on.
[00:01:54] Speaker C: Thanks for having me, man. I'm excited, man. I've been gassed since you guys started it. I have been watching.
[00:01:59] Speaker B: We said you were at the top of the list. We've had a long list. We've got a name of 30 plus people on it. Your name is right at the top of the list of the first.
It's a well worthy debut for all of us here.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: It had to be a blockbuster.
[00:02:11] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm gas man, I guess. Let's go. Let's go.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: And spoiler alert. Well, no spoiler. I'm not going to tell you what it is, but Kingston's performances are sick.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: I'm excited to hear it. I'm excited to hear it.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: I've had a glimpse. Got a cheeky little remix of a big tune at the moment as well.
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Say no more. I don't want to hear it.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Naughty, naughty, naughty. No spoilers plans then, Kingston, the idea is that I think we had a chat with you before, but like, everybody, a lot of podcasts these days, especially for like, underground artists. Everyone's like, oh, so why'd you write that song about your mum? Tell me, like, oh, yeah, all these that, like, oh, 800 views.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: No offense to your mark.
[00:02:45] Speaker A: And again, like, we're all grinding like that, but I just mean no one's gonna buy into that.
And at the end of the day, we're idiots. And people have been buying into us being idiots, so we might as well just all be ourselves in our household.
[00:02:58] Speaker C: Exactly. That's people gonna buy into that.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: But to start us off with a musical based question anyway, someone we're going to introduce, going forward to every musical artist for a segment called Desert Island Discs. Okay, so you're on a desert island. For some reason you have no re. You're not getting off this island. But you have three albums, mixtapes, whatever you can take with you. What are those three?
[00:03:18] Speaker A: For some reason, you've got a cd player, but you got a cd player.
[00:03:20] Speaker B: You'Ve got a boombox, whatever.
[00:03:22] Speaker A: Ipod nano with permanent battery life.
[00:03:24] Speaker C: Yep. I'm by myself.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: You're by yourself.
[00:03:26] Speaker A: What does that mean? There's like shame free or something. Lightyear work.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: You don't have to cater for anyone else. You've just. For you.
[00:03:33] Speaker C: For me, no, like.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: And you have free albums. You got the rest of your life. You can live it. Free albums.
[00:03:37] Speaker C: Tough, tough, tough.
Okay, first one, I think it's chance to rapper coloring book cold.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: Great choice.
[00:03:47] Speaker C: When the album drops.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: I love the coloring book.
[00:03:49] Speaker C: I think I still. I still listen to the album now.
[00:03:50] Speaker B: Hundred times better than.
[00:03:54] Speaker C: Damn.
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Because the thing is, it doesn't actually have to be you like the free best albums.
[00:03:59] Speaker B: Or even your free colouring book has got repeatability, though.
[00:04:03] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:04] Speaker A: And if it's the only music you're gonna ever listen for si live. You want.
[00:04:07] Speaker C: Exactly.
I definitely want like a bit of variety. Yeah.
I don't know. That's the first one that came to my head.
[00:04:14] Speaker B: You're in your gospel hip hop.
[00:04:16] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: Back there.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: That's locked off what's their features as well. So you can cheat.
[00:04:20] Speaker C: Why is that cheating?
[00:04:21] Speaker A: No, it's a good cheating.
[00:04:22] Speaker C: You cheated with the glasses. We're not talking about that. We're not talking about that one, but, yeah, so chance the rapper.
[00:04:28] Speaker A: Mm hmm.
[00:04:32] Speaker C: Kanye west, obviously. We got two.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Who's it gonna be, though? What's it gonna be?
[00:04:35] Speaker A: That's a question.
[00:04:38] Speaker C: I think I'd go. Life of Pablo, you know, is it interesting?
[00:04:41] Speaker B: It's a good.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: It's no rock.
[00:04:43] Speaker B: 18 tracks of one.
[00:04:44] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Okay. Life of Pablo.
[00:04:46] Speaker C: What's closing it out the last way.
[00:04:50] Speaker B: I knew it was gonna be.
[00:04:52] Speaker C: That's my guy. Any Lil Wayne album, to be honest.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: Is it?
[00:04:55] Speaker C: Yeah. So, yeah.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: Respect. Well, onto this and another segment, certainly with any rappers that we bring on the show, any afrobeats artists, is your Matt Rushmore of hip hop acts. So it's your four only. That are your greats. I knew Wayne was going to be on that.
[00:05:09] Speaker C: Yeah, of course, Wayne. Yeah, we all know Wayne.
[00:05:10] Speaker B: So Wayne's got the first spot.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Who's your other three founding fathers?
[00:05:15] Speaker C: You know, with this question, I feel like there's always, like, a right answer.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: No right answer.
[00:05:20] Speaker C: No, no. Like, no. If you think about everyone kind of knows who they want to answer, but I think I'm going to go with, like, the people who, like. I kind of, like, follow my sound and.
[00:05:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:05:29] Speaker C: So I'll go with that because, yeah, Lil Wayne's on their defo.
[00:05:32] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:05:33] Speaker C: I don't know if you know who Sarkodie is. So he's a ghanaian. He's a ghanaian artist. Like one of the first, like, african, like, rappers. Rappers were like, like Jay Z was co signing him and, like, working with Kanye. So, like, one of the first guys. So, yeah, definitely Sarkozy then gets.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't get.
[00:05:55] Speaker C: Boy, I've seen gets live.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: When I saw Stormzy, he brought gets.
[00:05:58] Speaker C: Out, gets definitely on there, like, at the moment. And then who else. How many ever got left?
[00:06:05] Speaker B: You got one left?
[00:06:05] Speaker C: One left.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: You gotta do another UK. You're gonna go back to.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: I love it when it's a unique lineup like this.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:12] Speaker C: So you've gone.
[00:06:12] Speaker B: You've gone America, you've got uk, and you've got Ghana. You got one more to close it out.
[00:06:18] Speaker C: I probably put, like, J house on there.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: J Hoss.
[00:06:21] Speaker C: Yeah, man, bring J house back.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Where's he gone?
[00:06:23] Speaker C: That's cool.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:06:24] Speaker C: Yeah. But I feel like that's my. If you listen to my sound in my music, that's what we want.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: That's a good lineup.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: And the whole point we wanted to do these segments is like, give these artists an excuse to talk about what their music sounds like without, like, you know. Yeah, exactly.
That's a perfect four.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I like it solid.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: I'm never gonna wear that four again, are we?
[00:06:48] Speaker B: Not those exact four. You should hear it, though. Gets is a great one.
[00:06:53] Speaker C: He always gets as well. Times like he's recreated his image and brought himself back.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Madrid's guy, he's been around for, like, 20 years. I remember hearing Getz when I was in high school, like, in 2007, so, like, really early when I first started, when I was eleven. So he's been around for a long time.
[00:07:07] Speaker C: A long time, yeah. That's what he started with. Grime, he was doing, obviously. Grime. Boiler rooms.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:07:12] Speaker C: Went for a bit, then, like, they started releasing music.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: Yeah, it was good.
[00:07:16] Speaker C: It was good. But gets now he's on 100, man. He's on 100. So.
[00:07:19] Speaker B: Yeah, well, on this and talking about this, this is a really good segue for someone. And I've said this to you before, I've never known someone who isn't from this city that I was born in. Who knows more people I know in said city.
[00:07:33] Speaker C: I've seen this conversation before.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: It's ridiculous amount of times when someone will go, oh, I know kings from XYZ, and it's only because I've been to a few parties with you since. And this is what he does at parties. He has his instagram ready to go. He's saying, what's up, Kingston? Follow me on this nut, and he'll go and just market himself.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: That's it.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: I was going to ask on this, so for you, because that's obviously a very extreme example that I think only works for someone like you. You've got to be very extroverted. But what are some ways that you think modern music artists can really market themselves as best as possible?
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Great question.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: Because that is a. There's a way you do it. It's very unique. That's a tough one for someone to just go to parties and be like, I'm a music artist, listen to my stuff. Do you know what I mean?
[00:08:12] Speaker C: I don't know, innit? I think I just do what works for me. But everyone is kind of. Everyone's kind of different, so I could not tell you, you know, some people just go into a room and they'll put their music on.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:24] Speaker C: Whereas me.
[00:08:28] Speaker B: Everyone here is now listening to me.
[00:08:30] Speaker C: Yeah. I'm not confident enough to do that.
[00:08:32] Speaker B: You should do that. So you're confident enough to go around to 20, man, and say, yeah, because.
[00:08:36] Speaker C: Once you meet me, there's a lot of things that you go, oh, yeah, that guy's quite fuck with him. Like, over so many things. But you just putting your music on, saying, that's me.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: You don't.
[00:08:44] Speaker C: The first thing, is this music good or not? They don't even get to know, you know? I mean, whereas me, I put my brand first, then the music comes and it will just meshes.
[00:08:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good idea. You don't want to be at a party, put your music on, hear someone shout who's turned in.
[00:08:57] Speaker C: It be like, yo, and I've been to a party where that happened and it was, it was bad.
[00:09:03] Speaker B: You were like, who turned on?
[00:09:04] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Saying that as well. Because Liam asked me what happened when me and Kingston were in Aldi half an hour ago.
[00:09:13] Speaker B: Someone recognized him. Yeah, this is what I'm talking about.
[00:09:16] Speaker C: Literally.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah, this is what I'm talking about. This is someone who was born in Luton, innit?
[00:09:19] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. No one. I was born in Amsterdam.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, of course, yeah. You're born out. You got dutch passport.
[00:09:24] Speaker C: Yeah, of course.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: I respect. Yeah. So.
[00:09:26] Speaker A: So do you. I feel like an outlier.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah, now you do. But I'm saying, like, because obviously you've came here and I met you in 2014.
[00:09:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:33] Speaker B: When you started uni.
[00:09:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:09:34] Speaker B: And then now since, built yourself as such a massive platform on your socials and connected to a lot of people, events and whatever. Like, for you, there's never a day when you're going into town, I assume, and not bumping into someone that you now know.
[00:09:45] Speaker C: Literally. Yeah. If you ask my friends, they're literally like, yo. Like, they actually ask me, what's wrong with you? But, no, but, like, it's one of those. No, because I think. Imagine you're in a rush, going somewhere, and then you bump into someone. Like we were saying before, you bump into someone and then you have to stay there and talk as well. Cause, like, come on, you go, if you see someone, you can't just be like, yeah, I'm going to buy it.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: You preach it to the converter. I've literally said to Kingsman before, like, he got here and I was stood 500 yards away for ten minutes talking to someone we bumped into.
I was like, I can't, like, I've got to go. So.
[00:10:15] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: To be fair, he's giving a humble answer there. But at the end of the day, am I, like, Kingston's the best, best example of, like, people putting themselves out there in every possible sense, like, you know, like fingers in many pies kind of thing. Because, I mean, like, you know, with, I did the studio and events and stuff like this, and it's been like, Kingston, you can't just do one thing.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: You just can't assume people are going to find your music organically, innit?
[00:10:36] Speaker C: Literally.
[00:10:36] Speaker B: I'm the biggest believer in closed mouths. Don't get fed. Like, you have to, you have to.
[00:10:42] Speaker C: Be talking, you have to be out there.
[00:10:44] Speaker B: If you're introducing your name, people by first name and your government name and job and whatever you're doing, and not yourself as an artist, I have not called you your real name in probably years, seven years, I've not called your real name. Do you know what I mean?
[00:10:57] Speaker C: For like, two years. I was called splash bro for a bit.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: Yeah, of course.
I'm excited to do it again this summer.
[00:11:04] Speaker C: So come on now. I'm down. I'm down.
[00:11:06] Speaker B: That's what I mean. I think you can tell even from speaking of which, the way you play ball that you're probably an artist, because if you're not on his team, you don't like this guy, because every single play is this, you know, something in your mouth. You just have to be giving it this.
[00:11:27] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:11:28] Speaker C: Because it riles everyone up.
Like, to win for the sake of winning, I'm gonna rile you up as well.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: Rub it in there when I come.
[00:11:36] Speaker C: Up on top, it's even sweet, you know?
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Of course you have to be, but.
[00:11:39] Speaker C: That'S, that's this very bad minded.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: No, not at all. I'm the exact same. I can't play like Mars. I play bad if I'm not talking exactly. Even strangers, when we're playing at Hume Park, I have to be talking different.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: Basketball as well, though. I mean, like, there's a lot more football. Trash talk is one thing, but, like, this is a different level with basketball.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: It is, because, and a basketball court, that small, condense, however big it is, everyone's hearing this conversation.
[00:12:04] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:12:05] Speaker B: If I'm cussing you out and saying that your shot is dead and this is gone and your game is, whatever, trash all your teammates, everyone else is hearing it, do you know what I mean?
[00:12:13] Speaker C: And that's part of it, I think, like football, because there's so many people, like, I could say, oh, you've not got a shot. You might not be able to shoot for like, ten minutes. Yeah, that's true.
Oh, you got a dead shot. But in the next three possessions, you have to shoot.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: There's a lot more of a psychological element to it.
[00:12:30] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
[00:12:31] Speaker B: You know what? Really nice segue. Do you want to introduce it? Just because he's already mentioned it?
[00:12:35] Speaker A: So in our first series, we had a little clip blow up from basically an argument.
[00:12:41] Speaker C: Is it what's harder, football, basketball. Yeah. I commented.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: I knew you did. I knew you did. Let me introduce it. I want to hear this, and I'm.
[00:12:48] Speaker A: Not going to enjoy this next five minutes. Right. You don't know what he's going to say. I do know what he's going to say.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: Go on. Let's go on.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: And it was, what is harder, basketball or football? A conversation me and Liam have had for many years. Because he's a basketballer, I'm a footballer. But again, we always knew that maybe we weren't the perfect ones for it because I don't really play basketball.
[00:13:06] Speaker B: No.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: And he don't really play football.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: We need someone who plays both.
[00:13:09] Speaker A: But again, what do we have in the studio? I'm gonna defend myself right now. Cause I don't know how much football this guy.
[00:13:13] Speaker B: What are you talking about? You're trying to g check his football.
[00:13:15] Speaker C: I play, like, twice a week.
[00:13:17] Speaker B: She plays more than you.
[00:13:20] Speaker C: I play basketball twice a week. Football twice a week.
[00:13:22] Speaker A: Shit. Can we move on, then? I don't want to use it.
[00:13:26] Speaker C: Can we flip it? Let me do a king seven. Let's flip it in. Let me take over.
Football is harder. Please.
[00:13:33] Speaker B: He had the deadest reasons. I'm telling you, bro. The most unlegitimate reason I've ever.
[00:13:39] Speaker A: Purely saying that for camera, right. I prove him wrong, and then he just doubled down.
[00:13:43] Speaker C: Okay, go ahead. Now, what's your reason?
[00:13:44] Speaker A: And I'm gonna, like, forget all of my good reasons right now. I know this is what's going on.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: I've got mine ready to go.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: You knew this was coming. You knew this was coming. Basically, at the end of the day, I think you are born as a human being, and you use your hands.
[00:13:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: You don't do anything with the fields.
[00:13:57] Speaker C: And walk and run.
[00:13:59] Speaker A: Simple as that. Any sport that's going to use your hands, I feel like you already have a head start learning it.
[00:14:04] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay.
[00:14:05] Speaker A: I just think that's a fact. And I think, look it in the corner. I could see his hand like that anyway. And at the end of the day, I'm not. I think it's tough one, because I'm not saying that like, there's a black and white answer to this. I'm just saying that I think with football you can get to a simple. Because he thinks the fact that he can, like, pass the ball side to side, he can hold himself, like, playing football. And he thinks that, like, it's like, sweet. That means it's piss easy. He's shit up.
[00:14:30] Speaker B: Football. Never said that.
[00:14:31] Speaker A: You said that last time.
[00:14:32] Speaker B: You've never seen me play football either.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: Yes, I have. I've played football with you.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: I don't remember that.
[00:14:36] Speaker A: Exactly. We don't remember much of it, but anyway, listen. Right, exactly. Listen. So I think you can get to a basic level with football. Maybe quicker, right? But then the elite levels of football are just so, so much more advanced than anything. And especially with basketball.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: Yeah, he's not buying it.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: I don't care. Right.
[00:14:56] Speaker C: No, no, no. I'm letting him land. I'm letting you land.
[00:14:59] Speaker A: Cause I'm trying to speed through a couple of ones as well here and especially because. Right. And like I said a bit, to be fair, the one I want to die on the hill for is the hands is basically me. I never play basketball. Right. But I can already do a bit of dribbling. I can't shoot for shit, to be fair. But my point being is hand to eye coordination is already a thing. You don't have foot to eye coordination naturally unless you play a sport with your feet.
I think my arguments are better where.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: Responding dead is argument.
[00:15:29] Speaker A: Not true.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: You go first. Feel free to go first.
[00:15:31] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: Just trash this man's argument.
[00:15:33] Speaker C: So. I'm not gonna trash it. I hear what you're saying in it. Yeah. But I'm gonna talk about my personal opinion in it. Yeah. So I'd say I've played football and basketball pretty much for the same amount of time. Yeah. But I've played basketball at a higher level.
[00:15:48] Speaker A: Right.
[00:15:48] Speaker C: I'd say.
[00:15:49] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:15:49] Speaker C: Because obviously I went through, like, college, like, you know what I mean? So we played in, like, a few divisions, me and Liam as well.
[00:15:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:15:55] Speaker C: So whereas football, I kind of play it off and on until lockdown. Then I picked up football, so I was playing.
So we played lockdown with just a few friends.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:06] Speaker C: Then I joined this group. Then we joined, like, Sunday league. Yeah. So at this moment, I played Sunday league, which pretty decent competition. Yeah. Like, and I start. Well, I play left back, so I start left back.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:16:20] Speaker C: And, like. And there's other people who've played, like, semi pro and played in Nigeria, and I'm starting above them.
[00:16:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:25] Speaker C: So to me, the science just shows football is easier to learn.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:30] Speaker B: Do you think? Listen, though, this. This is my biggest argument.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: Why is football the world's game if it's not the most easily pickable people? You're seeing kids in Somalia kicking around like a.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: Because it's the most popular sport. It's an older sport because everyone can play it. No, it's an older sport. Factually.
[00:16:48] Speaker B: Time has got nothing to do with it.
[00:16:50] Speaker A: How does he not.
[00:16:50] Speaker B: No, because I'm telling you now that.
[00:16:52] Speaker A: We'Ve said.
[00:16:55] Speaker C: This here, basketball, like. Yeah. There's certain tools you need to play basketball.
[00:17:01] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:01] Speaker C: So not every Tom, Dick and Harry can play basketball.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: You've reminded me of my argument. Please carry on.
[00:17:07] Speaker C: Every. Football can play football.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Right.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: If this is the case, then. Because he said about just being told whatever. And I said, I'm telling you, all the best players on earth are not the biggest player.
[00:17:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: Not the biggest players in the. In the league.
[00:17:21] Speaker A: I think that's an argument.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: And it's not because it's so much more than just height and size.
[00:17:25] Speaker A: Well, that explanation is literally. Yeah, but I think the explanation argument is still dead because there is not one overruling, like technical skill you can have in football that can make mean you can walk into the top division. There is. With basketball. No, but there isn't.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: There is. No, there is.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: There is players going. And I, you know, I don't know all the names, but I know this. What's the main. What's the new. Yeah, exactly. Right. No, everyone can walk around saying, oh, yeah, well, he blocks real good. That's because he's fucking nine four or whatever the ball.
[00:17:53] Speaker C: Yeah, but on your point of Victor. Yeah, on your point of Victor. On your point for Victor. Yeah, when he was ten. Yeah. He was out here playing and let's be real, even France in it. When he was in France, he was out here playing grown men, full sized grown men, and doing that to them.
[00:18:10] Speaker A: How tall was he then?
[00:18:12] Speaker C: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: I think it does matter.
[00:18:14] Speaker C: Everyone agrees that we've got men bodies and boy bodies. So at 10:00. At 10:00. Ten years old. Yeah, he's got a boy body. So if he's doing that to grown men, that just straight away shows the talent.
[00:18:26] Speaker A: Well, you can get that in many sports, though. I mean, like Wayne Rooney at 13 was playing with the under 18s. Like, I honestly don't see it like that.
[00:18:32] Speaker C: But in football, you can see it when these boys with little bodies are put into the prem. They're getting ragged, mashed up.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. But this is the thing I like. And again, he's gonna. I swear, you're gonna pretend this doesn't exist right now. But there is literally a chinese player. I can't remember his name, who's. It was like the state almost put this. Put these parents in the room. Was like, you need to make it.
[00:18:51] Speaker C: There you go.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: My point being, was it because they knew they were going to be tall as shit and be good at.
[00:18:59] Speaker C: Yeah, but here's my point.
Yeah, listen, that's the point we've had.
[00:19:04] Speaker A: Conversation about players, right. Have been picked up off the street in like, Africa.
[00:19:07] Speaker B: He wasn't picked off the street.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: He was not. Yao Ming was picked off the street, obviously. I mean, there was players that had been picked off the street because going, yo, that guy's tall as shit. They've walked in a couple of training sessions, you pass the ball letter out and just go like that in front of the net. And he could hold his side.
[00:19:19] Speaker C: Okay. No, but okay. Put it this way.
If we're talking about like, the top levels of both sports here in football, it's pretty much politics. If we're going to talk about that.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: In what sense?
[00:19:30] Speaker B: Speak on english stacks.
[00:19:32] Speaker A: Well, you're right. With, like, valuability of playing.
[00:19:34] Speaker C: Exactly. So, yeah. So then again, when. Then again, how you rate it is irrelevant.
[00:19:38] Speaker A: But as basketball isn't statist, though, because.
[00:19:41] Speaker C: Basketball is literally ranking from who's number one all the way to who's the worst player in the league. And then you can come in from the bottom and literally work your way up.
[00:19:51] Speaker A: So in one country, though.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: But listen though, Kingston, I get the.
[00:19:55] Speaker C: European league, there's all these leagues and they come across.
[00:19:57] Speaker A: It's not very popular.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Listen though, Kingston, I said this to him and I said, this is a really fair middle ground. I give him to him, I said, football is the world sport. It's the greatest sport. It's the greatest sport that will ever be. It's the more. Even though obviously I play ball and I love that more. I get the big moments are bigger in football because of the history behind a lot of the clubs and whatever. It's a much more extravagant, beautiful sport.
[00:20:18] Speaker A: To add to that.
[00:20:19] Speaker B: But it's an easier sport.
[00:20:20] Speaker C: I'll be honest with you. Basketball is not a world sport.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: No, it's not. I love it, but I know that that's fine. It's obviously different. It's harder to catch a game here. What I'm saying is that if I've been balling since I was 15 now, and I'm putting my. All in my craft. And there's still time. I'm struggling against players that are smaller than me, weaker than me. Do you know what I mean? Because it's such a technical game. Because I said, for him, it's just your feet involved, the balls on the ground. Yeah. All your four limbs and body rotation, everything essential for basketball.
[00:20:53] Speaker C: That's another thing I tell people. It's not just basketball, it's about rhythm.
[00:20:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's about rhythm.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: I think that's because of the intensity. And I don't disagree.
[00:20:59] Speaker C: No, I mean in the sense of. I mean more in the sense of bouncing the ball. So when you're dribbling the ball, it's 1212. But you can't do that the whole game. If someone's running at you, do a 12123 round your back, through your legs.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: In the back here. But I have to go behind, but I have to use shoulders.
[00:21:16] Speaker C: Football's gone, but it's not as rhythmic.
[00:21:19] Speaker A: But I think we can have that conversation and say, but to be fair, what I won't ever disagree on is, and like I said, my basic argument was the fact that the advanced levels of basketball are immensely difficult and technical ability is insane. I'll give you that. Of course it is.
[00:21:34] Speaker B: Did you see that video of Steph hitting 106, three corner, three balls in.
[00:21:38] Speaker C: The corner before the game, 106.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: And he was pissed when he missed the last 163 balls from the corner is not something that any player can do. The average NBA.
[00:21:49] Speaker C: What do you say the equivalent of that is in football?
[00:21:51] Speaker B: It's like hitting. No, it's like hitting the crossbar 75 times in a row.
[00:21:56] Speaker A: Which Ronaldinho, way outside the box has got records for that and stuff like.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: That, how many times? But even still, he's the. Like we said we were going to do a topic on this of like, Neymar Kyrie.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: To be fair, that might be like this.
[00:22:11] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Because let me tell you what, let me land on the second one, because you might agree with this if you've got. Obviously, because you've got football knowledge as well. But like, I think it's because Ronaldinho doing just mad stuff for the football and with a smile on his face that no one else even tries made so many people fall in love with football.
[00:22:27] Speaker C: And I agree with that.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: I see Steph Curry as that guy and like.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Where Steph Ronaldo might be.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: The second best point. It's not like a. It's not like I say again, it's not like a night and day parallel, but that's why I see their role in. Because Steph Curry got me into basketball. I will happily say that I watch clips of Steph Curry all the time and he just blows my box off.
[00:22:48] Speaker C: So I think with Steph Curry, the thing is, that's when you realize, like, people realize, oh, I can play shit, I can play basketball.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: He made it look easy.
[00:22:57] Speaker C: He's not that big. You know what I mean? So I'll say LeBron James is Ronaldinho, think because of just God given talent.
[00:23:06] Speaker A: See, I see it might be a cop out, but I see that as the CR seven any day of the week. Lebron and Ronaldo?
[00:23:11] Speaker B: No, because of the talents.
[00:23:13] Speaker C: Oh, you mean like the work ethic? But LeBron was just born like that because think about up to he went into NBA, he wasn't really training. It's like the way it works is after a certain bit and then you train and you. But LeBron was born to play basketball like CR seven.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: Yeah, to be fair, again, I'm like. I'm the wrong person for it. But I just. I've always seen parallels between them and especially because, like, they're both playing into the late thirties, forties, like, and just the work ethic of them both being the goats and stuff. Cause at the end of the day, as much as people talk about Ronaldinho, they'll never say he's a goat. True, because he isn't.
[00:23:48] Speaker C: Just cause you didn't get that to them.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:23:50] Speaker C: But, like, basically, Kyrie's messy, though. That's my.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: You said. Do you say that?
[00:23:54] Speaker B: No, I said Kyrie like Neymar only because technical ability on the ball that no one's ever seen potentially didn't live up to the career they thought he was going to have because of other things. You know, this thing is annoying when I mention this now he's about to go to the finals, maybe tonight. He's about to catch a rating tonight. And if he win and I got up, they win because I want to see Ant man go. But I need Kyrie get another chip.
[00:24:15] Speaker C: Kyrie needs another chip.
[00:24:17] Speaker B: But I said this, like a year or two ago to Sam, and now it's not coming true because he's had this, like, relapse of his career where now he's playing some of the best ball ever as a veteran.
[00:24:25] Speaker C: Yeah, that's Kyrie on the ball is like, nay, best ball hunter ever. Then, like, in the sense of like, you know, like Messi. Like, Messi's running, no one can touch him. That's Kyrie on the ball, like, no.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: One can touch him.
[00:24:40] Speaker C: Like, you know what I mean?
[00:24:40] Speaker A: It's the same.
[00:24:42] Speaker C: It's tough comparisons. Yeah.
[00:24:43] Speaker A: Well, actually, not to go too off topic, but because we've got another, another Man United fan here, I want to quickly dip on the fact that Man United won the FA cup.
[00:24:51] Speaker C: Come on.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: This weekend.
[00:24:52] Speaker C: Come on, come on.
[00:24:53] Speaker B: You know, only because he's wrapped me.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: I know the chance and honestly, I don't want to. We don't want to talk about it too much, but I think it's perfect because, like you say, you've got football knowledge and you play football. Leon doesn't really know anything.
[00:25:05] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll check out for this segment.
[00:25:06] Speaker A: But we've got, maybe we've got a perfect, perfect slight balance for this because what I want to ask is going to piss off a lot of people, right? A lot of people have been basically taking the piss out of Arsenal because Arsenal finished. This is context for Liam bottle jobs.
[00:25:21] Speaker C: It made me so happy. I'm not going to lie. All my friends are Arsenal fans.
[00:25:24] Speaker B: Have you not got fans? Have you not got family that are, like, down south, though, like, in Arsenal?
[00:25:28] Speaker C: Yeah. All my friends, some of my family are Arsenal fans.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:31] Speaker C: And trust me, I mean, exactly.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: The point of. The point of, like, the. Sorry, the actual point is Arsenal have had a very good season. They finished second only just behind city. And Arsenal fans seem pretty content with that. United have had the worst season in, well, since the eighties, I think, come away with an FA cup win.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: I don't understand how that works.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: So again, I want to explain to Liam with no context, european competition, the.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: League, the Coca Cola title.
[00:26:01] Speaker A: European competition, the league, the FA cup and League cup.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: Really?
[00:26:06] Speaker A: That's like, that's the four.
United and city of sadly say as well, have won the treble. Right. So Arsenal can sit around and say that they're top Don's right now, okay? But they bottled it in every competition and united, about a shit. United, worst season, walked away with more trophies than Chelsea. Arsenal.
[00:26:23] Speaker C: I think I've seen a stat. It was a crazy start. I don't know, I might be wrong in it because you can't believe everything on instagram.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:26:28] Speaker C: It says that, like, we've lost more games this season than Fergie, like, ever lost.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Ever won at home.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Fergie's ever.
[00:26:37] Speaker C: Yeah. We've lost more games just in one season than Fergie's ever lost in, what, in 30 years?
[00:26:44] Speaker A: Really close. And I can't. It might be, I think ten hags lost as many games in two seasons as Sir Alex has in 26. Or maybe. I think it's maybe home games at Old Trafford.
[00:26:53] Speaker C: That's a crazy like that.
[00:26:55] Speaker A: But it's still crazy. Yeah, it's still crazy because, like, people have been debating because United have had, like, such a bad season, but there's been a lot of reasons for that. A lot of injuries and stuff, people calling that cop out. But at the end of the day, this manager could possibly get sacked this week and he's still come out with two trophies in two seasons. That's decent. Seven years before. Ten hag.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: Is this ten Hag's first coaching job?
[00:27:14] Speaker A: No, sorry, manager.
[00:27:16] Speaker C: He was the guy over to Ajax. Ajax.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: We're out of man at Bayern Munich. So he's no better right now.
[00:27:23] Speaker B: Didn't Jose Mourinho said he wanted to come back?
[00:27:26] Speaker A: He did, but United won't have him back.
[00:27:27] Speaker B: Why would they not do that?
[00:27:28] Speaker A: Because he's just gonna cause too much.
[00:27:30] Speaker B: Is it beefing with the.
[00:27:31] Speaker A: And it'd be a backwards step backwards.
[00:27:33] Speaker B: Is he not like a. I think he is.
[00:27:34] Speaker C: I think. I think ten Hag deserves another chance.
[00:27:37] Speaker A: I do.
[00:27:37] Speaker C: I, like, I think with the tools he had, because, remember, he wasn't able to get all the players he wanted. Like, let's say he wanted. I want these players. These players. He had to get, like, the next option down. Made it work. Like, you know what I mean? He had old players.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: This is it.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: Can I say how happy this guy is right now to be chatting on this podcast? Chatting football.
Did you hear this massive news about.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: Wayne Rooney played football for Manny?
[00:28:03] Speaker C: I did. Like the one you guys did on the football players as well.
No, it wasn't people genuinely.
[00:28:09] Speaker A: Was that bad?
[00:28:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: What was it? Was it won the saka one? What was that?
[00:28:13] Speaker B: No, there was the Thomas Muller for rice. Rice, baby.
Yeah. Thinking bukayo saka.
[00:28:22] Speaker C: That was closed, though. I was nearly at it.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: Someone was like, oh, he's so familiar. It was like Carlos Tevez or Suarez or something.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Thomas Muller, I think, as well.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: I did. I get them confused.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: It wasn't even declaring rice. He called Tom.
[00:28:33] Speaker B: I thought Kevin De Bruyne was black for the years. Oh, yeah, that five years.
And I get the name. He doesn't even sound like I get it.
[00:28:42] Speaker A: This is the thing, people. People in our friendship group of, like, I mean, Dave, for example. Dave, when I first met. I first met Lane, Liam through Dave. And he always used to make me laugh because, like, Liam, like, lives for american culture and he's just not asked about any english culture. Like, doesn't watch english shows, doesn't watch english sports. All SNL and like, the Lakers. Jeremy. Right. So then when he says, like, Kevin de Bruyne, Kevin is a black name because of basketball. I just thought that just sums up your awareness.
[00:29:09] Speaker C: KDB. KD, exactly.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: He's the most Kevin looking guy you've ever seen in your life.
Little ginger Belgian.
[00:29:22] Speaker C: But, yo, he's a sick bowler.
[00:29:25] Speaker A: What I want to get clipped right up is, have United had a better season than Arsenal?
[00:29:30] Speaker B: Is that not easy? Can I not even answer that?
[00:29:32] Speaker A: I want your answer as well, obviously.
[00:29:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:35] Speaker C: To me, yeah.
[00:29:36] Speaker B: Wins a win.
[00:29:37] Speaker C: No, it's not even a win is a win. Imagine, yeah, we've. We've had one of the worst seasons, not just this season, probably ever in our history, and we still come out with trophy.
[00:29:46] Speaker B: No.
[00:29:46] Speaker C: Do you know one thing I saw, there's one thing I saw, I was like, that's crazy. So someone said, yeah, that's the difference between a big club and a big wannabe club.
[00:29:56] Speaker B: You look at me like I'm an arsenal.
[00:29:57] Speaker C: Because a big club, a big club.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: You like looking at me at the.
[00:29:59] Speaker C: Club, a big club.
At our worst, we're still winning something.
[00:30:04] Speaker A: I like that.
[00:30:05] Speaker C: Arsenal, you're struggling. You're struggling.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: When was the last time you had second place?
[00:30:08] Speaker C: That means you're the first to win, first to lose.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: Oh, she won last season and this year.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: So this is the thing. Arteta, the Arsenal manager, everyone. Samuel Arteta, Mikel Arteta.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: I was really confident.
[00:30:17] Speaker C: You were close.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: You got really going for Samuel Atta.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: I think. I was thinking, I will be thinking of someone.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: 2006 player. He usually means that guy.
[00:30:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: Samuel Arteta. I reckon you meant Samuel Arteta.
[00:30:27] Speaker B: I think I did.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: But anyway, right, everyone is rim jobbing. Mikhail Arteta right now, the Arsenal manager. Okay, right? And he has won, I think he's one trophy and he's what, four or five years at Arsenal and it was the FA Cup, I think, right, that's a good one.
[00:30:39] Speaker C: So has he won something?
[00:30:41] Speaker A: I don't think he has won the FA cup. That's the only reason he got. When they finished eight for two seasons, they were shit. They kept him because he won the FA cup.
[00:30:47] Speaker C: Damn.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: So, Erik, ten hag in two seasons. The way united have been awful and Arsenal have been amazing, has won two trophies and Arteta has won none. So what I want to ask you, for the lovely people of TikTok, go on. As someone who knows nothing about the sport, I've been nasty there.
[00:31:03] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's fair.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: Nothing about the sport. Right. Would you rather have a season where you finish terribly in the league and everyone ridicules? You still walk out with a top trophy or challenge for the league?
[00:31:13] Speaker B: Run me that trophy.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:31:14] Speaker B: Thank you. In finished second place, but in history, they don't remember the second place. Thank you. They remember the trophies.
They don't care.
[00:31:23] Speaker C: That's crazy.
[00:31:31] Speaker A: But, yeah.
[00:31:31] Speaker C: Now, trust me, if, in american terms, run me that ring. Give me that ring.
[00:31:35] Speaker B: A ring has a ring.
[00:31:36] Speaker C: I need to go home with some bling.
[00:31:37] Speaker A: And the only reason I want that clipping up is because there's so many, well, non United fans. A lot as well, but just Arsenal fans who just don't want to admit that.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: But it'd be the same. If you're all the way around the exact same conditions, you'd probably never.
[00:31:49] Speaker C: It's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same.
[00:31:51] Speaker B: Oh, you'd be like. You'd be. You'd be what? You could be objective enough to be like, they got us.
[00:31:56] Speaker A: Well, yeah, because we are, ironically, at the same. Again, we'll wrap it up quick. But we went into the same situation. We had the same situation last season. We won the League cup, which is a bit of a, like, Mickey Mouse cup, to be fair, but we won it and finished third. And Arsenal had the best season they had in, like, ten years. Finished second, won nothing. And it was like, hmm. You've all been running your mouth off this year.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: Like, they've still got Saka, though.
Is he not that top boy?
[00:32:21] Speaker C: That's their top boy, definitely. He's not their best player.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: He's only, like, 19 or something.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: No, he's probably 21, 22 now, anyway.
[00:32:29] Speaker C: Yeah, but forget him now. We got the top boy now, innit, my boy? Kobe manu, baby. That's my boy.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: Right now, star boy, Stockport cedol.
[00:32:38] Speaker C: Come on.
[00:32:38] Speaker A: He's Dutch.
[00:32:39] Speaker B: Lawrence Cedar. Damn it.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: Oh, Lawrence. Lawrence. Clarence.
[00:32:43] Speaker B: He's always nearly rhymed. I really.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: Always a bit.
[00:32:49] Speaker B: Really close with that one as well.
[00:32:50] Speaker A: Right, I want to move on. Go on. What a quiz. You on some quick fire, this, all that.
[00:32:55] Speaker B: Yeah, so we've got some. You just got. No, think about it.
[00:32:58] Speaker C: No opinions.
[00:32:59] Speaker B: Just lock in for this. I'm gonna give you the first ten. He's gonna look for it.
[00:33:02] Speaker A: Go for it.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: Ready?
Marvel or DC?
[00:33:05] Speaker C: Marvel.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: High tops or low tops?
[00:33:10] Speaker C: Low tops.
[00:33:10] Speaker B: Low tops.
[00:33:11] Speaker C: Low tops.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: He says wearing high tops. I respect it. Rapport, R and B, rap yep. Dragon Ball Z or demon slayer?
[00:33:18] Speaker C: Oh, damn.
Taylor Ball Z. Dragon Ball.
[00:33:23] Speaker B: I'm on the last episode, by the way. Dragon Ball Zayn. The second I get home, I'll finish off cold. Four seasons in two weeks on real show. Anyway, to keep it going.
Nigerian or ghanaian? Jalof.
[00:33:35] Speaker C: Ghana. Jalo.
[00:33:38] Speaker B: I knew it was gonna be Beyonce or Rihanna?
[00:33:41] Speaker C: Beyonce.
[00:33:42] Speaker B: Lebron or Jordan?
[00:33:45] Speaker C: Damn.
Lebron.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Respect.
[00:33:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:49] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:33:49] Speaker B: Messi or Ronaldo?
[00:33:51] Speaker C: Ronaldo ka or Rubicon ka.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Football or basketball?
[00:33:56] Speaker C: Basketball.
[00:33:56] Speaker A: Let's go, let's go. I'm gonna take. I'll take the l on this one. I'm outnumbered. It's okay, it's okay.
[00:34:02] Speaker C: Wait, so did you guys, like, guess what you think my answer was gonna be?
[00:34:04] Speaker A: No.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: I thought.
[00:34:05] Speaker C: I thought.
[00:34:05] Speaker B: I thought I already knew what he thinks.
[00:34:08] Speaker A: That council's a loss for me. I don't know.
[00:34:09] Speaker B: No, it doesn't. I'm just.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: I'm gonna give you the rest uk wise. North or south?
[00:34:15] Speaker C: North.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: And he's got. He's got.
[00:34:18] Speaker B: He's got feedback.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: Easy answer. Instagram or TikTok?
[00:34:22] Speaker C: Instagram.
[00:34:23] Speaker A: Kendrick or Drake?
[00:34:24] Speaker C: Kendrick. Come for Kenny boy.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: What? I know it's gonna be this.
[00:34:27] Speaker C: They're not like us. Let's go.
[00:34:29] Speaker A: Exactly.
J. Cole on nas.
[00:34:32] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That's a tough one.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: That's a tough one. Yeah.
Biggie or Pac?
[00:34:37] Speaker C: Pac.
[00:34:38] Speaker A: Like Kanye west or Drake?
[00:34:40] Speaker C: Kanye.
[00:34:41] Speaker B: You reckon? The shirt.
[00:34:43] Speaker C: I mean, Drake. Jesus.
[00:34:45] Speaker A: Love that. Dave Chappelle or Kevin Hart?
[00:34:49] Speaker C: Dave Chappelle.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: That's the one.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: You woke me there.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: I thought that's the right answer.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: Outkast or Wu Tang?
[00:34:57] Speaker C: Outcast.
[00:34:58] Speaker A: Do you know?
[00:34:59] Speaker B: I think he's gonna say outcast.
[00:35:00] Speaker A: Neither.
I thought that'd be an unpopular opinion, but I completely agree.
Denzel Washington or Samuel L. Jackson?
[00:35:08] Speaker C: Denzel.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: I like it. And last one. Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson?
[00:35:13] Speaker C: Mike Tyson.
[00:35:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's correct.
[00:35:17] Speaker C: Muhammad Ali is the goat, innit?
[00:35:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:35:19] Speaker C: But what Mike Tyson is doing now for me is not. No, I don't mean just the fight he's got. I mean, like, everything. Like, he's kind of embraced everything. Like podcast. Yeah, he's out more.
[00:35:30] Speaker A: He's talking about changing his life.
[00:35:32] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Like. I don't know. Like, I don't know.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: It's very honest as well.
[00:35:36] Speaker C: Yeah, it's so honest.
[00:35:37] Speaker B: So consider how different he was, like, in the eighties and nineties when he first came about and how feared he was. And now he's like, talk about his feelings. Talk about how he was terrified of him, of himself, the person he was.
[00:35:47] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: And he said, every time I got.
[00:35:48] Speaker C: The ring, I'm sorry to make it. Like, I feel like as black men, you know, we don't see that a lot anymore, you know what I mean? Getting that chance to see someone who's like this scary, competitive guy that literally would like bite people and now opening up and like, you know, I mean, like crying and all these things, it's so powerful. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's so powerful. Like just, yeah, man, Mike Tyson in.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: It have respect it as well.
[00:36:12] Speaker C: And Obi busts up Jake Paul, man.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: It's coming up.
[00:36:16] Speaker A: Can we have a quick prediction on that?
[00:36:17] Speaker B: Right?
[00:36:19] Speaker A: We've all seen Mike Tyson, how he looks right now. Yeah, that man is, I literally saw like a video breaking down his physique now compared to in his prime. And it's the best he's looked since he was honestly like in his late twenties. He looks insane.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: Well, Jake's done as well. Jake's like 212 pounds now. He's heavy, he's packed on a lot of weight. I think, you know, he needs it.
[00:36:44] Speaker C: Have you been watching Mike Tyson's training videos?
[00:36:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:46] Speaker C: I feel like even if he's lost half the power, he's still gonna put.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: All in his how scared his trainer looks when he's like, come here.
[00:36:55] Speaker C: No. Okay, Mike literally, so I'm worried because I don't know, I think Jake board, all these wins he's had, he's paid some of them off.
So honestly, it depends now is Mike.
[00:37:07] Speaker B: Tyson, I said this for the Woodley side.
[00:37:09] Speaker C: I think Mike Tyson, his legacy is too big for him to go out like that.
[00:37:13] Speaker A: This is the debate because I had a conversation with someone the other day that was like, oh no, no, no. Like it's Mike's gonna knock him out and all this. And obviously I agree Mike is gonna win, but there's just not a chance in hell that Jake Paul has signed up for a fight where he can get embarrassed. No, I think there's gonna be clause after clause after clause and the people are going, oh well, nah, it's been like clarified as a professional fight now. I don't give a shit. It's still gonna be clause, clause, clause. You know what's gonn knock me out. You can't do this, you can't do that. Yeah, and they want it to go all the way because of how many sponsors, blah, blah, blah. Mike Tyson's not stupid. He wants his brother fair play, get that money. He deserves it.
[00:37:45] Speaker C: But, like, one thing I say is I watch them do, like, yo, if he, if he knocked and if he by some miracle knocks out Mike Tyson, he'll probably become one of the most hated people on earth.
Can he ride that wave?
[00:37:56] Speaker B: I think people forget about his people.
Is the most genius marketer. You know why? He's been doing professional boxing training for what, seven years now. But in interviews, he goes, I'm just a youtuber. I'm just a youtuber.
[00:38:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: But then people look at him and go, he should be winning. He's just a youtuber.
[00:38:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: So then when he does win these fights or if he loses, because if he wins, he goes, I'm just a youtuber. And if he loses, you know, I'm just you. It's the most genius tactic.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: I don't disagree at all.
[00:38:28] Speaker B: The best trainers in the world from, like, Floyd's camp are training in.
[00:38:32] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:38:32] Speaker B: It's the most genius tactic because the word is genuine. Just people don't take him seriously as a fighter. So if he wins or loses, don't.
[00:38:39] Speaker C: Get me wrong, Nash, like, he's improved, like, so much.
[00:38:41] Speaker B: Of course he has.
[00:38:42] Speaker C: So much more. Even better than his brother. Like, I first we were like, his brothers don't.
[00:38:44] Speaker B: His brother's just a better athlete.
[00:38:45] Speaker C: Yeah. Jeremy, I've seen him wwe, I'm taking it on a tangent.
I've been watching him. I'm like, you know, he was, I think he was born to, like, wrestlemania.
[00:38:54] Speaker B: But he's a showman in it, so that's.
[00:38:56] Speaker A: They are athletes.
[00:38:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: To be like.
[00:38:59] Speaker C: No, but, like, what he's doing is. But he's jumping from, like, he's doing, like, big boy stunts, man.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: Ironically, we could actually see Logan Paul and Tyson fury in a WWE match in the next couple of years.
[00:39:11] Speaker B: That wouldn't surprise me.
[00:39:12] Speaker A: Not at all.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: They love doing that, so it wouldn't surprise me.
[00:39:14] Speaker C: What do you guys think of the. I think you guys already spoke about it.
[00:39:17] Speaker A: We did. Briefly. Yeah. We were more laughing about everyone else thinking they're like, geniuses on it. But about what, I miss what you said, tyson.
[00:39:22] Speaker B: And you think, oh, yeah, yeah, we did.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: Well, ironically, we are hot on the press that today it's been confirmed. Is it December?
[00:39:27] Speaker B: Yeah, December 21.
[00:39:28] Speaker C: Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah.
But I think now I'm talking more about, you know, what Tyson saying afterwards.
[00:39:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I watched it live. I did think it was, it was low. I did think it was low.
[00:39:38] Speaker C: I was just like, what is the point? You're trying to make it. That's even worse.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: As if they're going to go, you.
[00:39:42] Speaker C: Know what, we're right.
[00:39:43] Speaker B: Let's change the result. Now, Tyson, you want it? We did it because of the war. Of course.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: Tyson was like, oh, the guy fought really well and deserves to win. Got it. Because his country's at what you can't win. Humble, lose. And also.
[00:39:58] Speaker C: No, but yeah. What happened to AJ when he fought yousy? Was that not a dissimilar?
[00:40:03] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:40:04] Speaker C: You seek just gave him a little concussion and they were just rambling.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: It's a very technical fight when they're in it. I think if Tyson didn't fall, if he didn't go down, he was felt. I think if that didn't happen, it was going to be a draw.
[00:40:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Guaranteed. Because it was so close and when they saved, it was like one or two punch, I think both sides and then Usyk won't, which I think was generous because I think at the end of the, okay, he's fallen. And even the consensus is one person's been rattled and fallen. If ref doesn't come in there, he's fallen. He'll probably get up because we saw against Wilder and he's obviously, he's got an iron chin, but it's still just.
[00:40:42] Speaker C: How the audience him up, though. You sick? Actually, I've never seen Fury look so Ralph flustered and scared like someone so small.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: I think Wilder was as tall as him. Unbelievable to me.
[00:40:53] Speaker C: That's technicality, dude.
[00:40:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:55] Speaker C: I mean, forget power.
[00:40:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:40:57] Speaker C: If he's catching, you don't know where the punch is coming from.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: But to be fair, as well, as much as people are saying that, like, Tyson really trained, he's like the best. He's trained for a while for this fight, blah, blah, blah. Like, like, as much as he brought up the Ukraine thing, let's all be honest about the situation. You seek was literally on the front line.
Tyson Fury is in his, like, gold mansion. Yusuf on the front line.
[00:41:17] Speaker C: That's it.
[00:41:18] Speaker A: At the end of the day, we all talk about Tyson's hardest nails in the years, but you match, if not more. Do you know what I mean?
[00:41:23] Speaker C: I'd say more. Definitely way more.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: So it's, yeah, we can talk about that for one thing. But the other thing is, I think they get so rattled by you, seek is because he just keeps his mouth shut the whole time and it's a bit like feel. Exactly.
Imagine, like it's the same with like McGregor and stuff. Like part of Fury's game. Is his mind games and he's running his mouth off. Imagine running your mouth off for the weeks and weeks up to it and you get nothing back. He sparks you out.
It's going to rattle you in it. I mean, AJ literally, like, has been a changed man since that day.
[00:42:12] Speaker C: He cut his hair. I was like, yeah, I understand he's had, like, psychiatry. Yeah.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: Literally.
[00:42:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:18] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? I don't know. So you sick. To be fair, I think we might have to start giving him his flowers.
[00:42:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: Oh, I think, yeah. He deserves it for sure.
[00:42:25] Speaker A: I just, like.
I did really want Tyson to be the first unified champ, though.
[00:42:30] Speaker B: They'll do it where he'll guarantee Tyson will win the second one, then they'll go first. Well, they have to.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: If they do, it always happens like that.
[00:42:36] Speaker C: No, but you know what I'm saying as well. People are saying Tyson's not the same, though, since the whole Nganu thing.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: I don't think he is now, like. So it showed his mortality, for one, didn't it?
[00:42:45] Speaker C: Literally, yeah.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: I mean, to be fair to Nganu, though, in fact, actually like to spin that. I think that's. That's when AJ then beat Nganu. That's the first time I've seen AJ for a while and gone, actually. You could probably still do something in this division.
[00:42:57] Speaker C: Yeah, but I thought AJ seems Ghana, don't get me wrong. Yeah, he's powerful, but he's not a boxer.
[00:43:05] Speaker A: Very good.
That's the best I've seen AJ in a long time. Yeah, but that's what he's going off.
[00:43:11] Speaker C: You've been technical, but not against a butcher. You get what I mean? But I suppose maybe I'm just being very clear.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: You are absolutely right. But he's fighting Wilder soon, so I guess we'll find out now.
[00:43:19] Speaker C: That's going to be a big fight.
[00:43:21] Speaker A: Finds your prediction. We've been wanting to see AJ and Wilder for ages.
[00:43:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I think AJ on points. I don't think it's going. I don't think anyone's going to sleep. The thing is, even if Deontay's got, like, the hardest punch, pound for pound in fighting, but I don't think it just goes points.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: He's another one on the wild. Has not been the same since fury. So, like, you've got two fighters with a points prove both off the boil. It could go either way, but it's.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: An easier fight for him.
[00:43:42] Speaker A: AJ's a bit of a weak chin, as we've seen. I mean, you know, Andy Ruiz knocked him out, literally. Fat mexican boy.
[00:43:47] Speaker C: I mean, that's what broke AJ.
[00:43:49] Speaker A: Yeah, damn right.
[00:43:52] Speaker B: He was built like Superman against someone. That was him.
[00:43:54] Speaker A: Yeah, but to be fair, like, you know, Andy Ruiz has been like fighting cockerels for his since he was two years old.
[00:44:00] Speaker B: I don't trust his physique as well. Anyone that big shouldn't have legs that skinny.
SpongeBob. And it's the strangest physique I've ever seen. He's a 32 waist and he's an double XL T shirt.
[00:44:12] Speaker A: And one win, he had four belts.
[00:44:13] Speaker B: Yeah, very confusing.
[00:44:14] Speaker A: SpongeBob held yo yo. Yeah, that's disappointing.
[00:44:18] Speaker B: But anyway, let's keep it moving.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: We've got any other sports stuff? Oh, bro, this is such a random segue. But I had to discuss it. Right, go on. This morning, Gary Neville, on the overlap was interviewing Wayne Rooney, right. And I just wanted to discuss the fact that as a big red, Wayne Rooney is one of the best footballers to ever play the game. But that man is just hilarious. He's the most confusing boy you've ever met, right? They were asking him about warm up tunes to go. And especially talking to basketball fans, right? That's a big question to ask a sport.
[00:44:48] Speaker B: I think they always got big.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: And he guesses what way in his warm up tune was.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: It's gonna be something mad, like silly and Dion or something in it.
[00:44:53] Speaker A: Way worse.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: Adele.
[00:44:55] Speaker A: Spice Girls are saying, taylor, Susan Boyle.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: Susan Boyle.
[00:44:59] Speaker C: Listen, why she even got. Listen.
[00:45:01] Speaker A: Wild horses. Susan Boyle.
[00:45:02] Speaker C: Listen. I don't know. To me it makes sense. It makes sense, really.
[00:45:08] Speaker B: What you listen to before you go, will you walk into the park to go pull, you know, horses.
[00:45:12] Speaker A: Susan Boyle.
[00:45:13] Speaker C: No. So go on.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: Fair enough. I want to hit it. Little mix.
[00:45:16] Speaker C: So I played last week, Thursday. And the song I swing was the song.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: That song, yeah, to be.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: Right. Susan Boyle, that version.
[00:45:26] Speaker C: No, no, I was going to say wild horses.
[00:45:28] Speaker B: No.
[00:45:30] Speaker C: Okay. So I was listening to little foot Bigfoot.
[00:45:38] Speaker B: That's different, though. I think that's different levels.
[00:45:41] Speaker A: And a sportsman, he said he used to have a massage before the warm up and they'd whack Susan Baldwin. Horses on.
[00:45:48] Speaker C: Yeah, but like, think about the way. But think about the way Wayne Rooney plays. He's very engine, you know what I mean? So you need.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: But I don't know, I have to.
[00:45:58] Speaker C: Listen to quite chill stuff. So when I get to the court, when I get fired up, I'm at least starting from like minus.
[00:46:02] Speaker B: I'm the exact opposite. I need. I'm going on. I've got a playlist called ballin'and, that playlist is going on. It starts off with, like, two changes, something, because I need some.
[00:46:12] Speaker C: Playlist.
[00:46:13] Speaker B: It's a great playlist.
[00:46:14] Speaker C: And then he wonders why I'd be trash talking this.
[00:46:16] Speaker B: What? I mean, this is the kind of music perpetuating.
[00:46:18] Speaker A: Warming him up.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: Yeah, warming him up.
[00:46:20] Speaker C: And then he's not happy when. Once I start cooking. But.
[00:46:27] Speaker B: Calm.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: I mean, to be fair, though, like, I get the whole calming down thing. And again, maybe not to be too harsh on Susan Boyle, but an elite sportsman. Listen to Susan Boyle. Just doesn't sit right with me.
[00:46:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:46:35] Speaker B: No, I didn't know she was still active.
[00:46:38] Speaker C: He said, what if you said, like, adele would have made a big better.
[00:46:40] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:46:41] Speaker C: Why, though?
[00:46:42] Speaker A: Cause she's a credible artist.
[00:46:43] Speaker C: So is Susan Boyle.
[00:46:44] Speaker B: Why you sleep on.
[00:46:46] Speaker C: She's a UK credible.
[00:46:47] Speaker B: And that's a golden buzzer. Britain's got Talent finalists. Yeah, probably.
[00:46:51] Speaker A: Exactly. That's what I was gonna say. For the same reason why Adele's a fantastic artist.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: To be fair on this, while we're moving on to this, do you want to get onto the top 500 songs that I've yet to see? I don't know if kings have seen it either.
[00:47:02] Speaker A: What I wanted to say for you right now, I'm gonna look away from.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: Your eye because I see this.
[00:47:06] Speaker A: I did. We had a conversation last week, right, of the top. Apple Music released the top 100 albums.
[00:47:11] Speaker C: Albums, yeah, I seen that.
[00:47:12] Speaker A: So you might have seen them and we spoke about the top ten. It's like, there's not too many shockers in there, but there's a couple of questionable ones. And the reason. And we wanted to then think about other lists, because it's the same with the goat debate and the Mount Rushwort. There's many right answers and there's many wrong answers. Right. But the Rolling Stones list of the top 500 songs ever is the most questionable piece of journalism you've ever seen in your life.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: You got some surprising entries.
[00:47:39] Speaker A: There was 500 songs. So I won't go through that.
[00:47:41] Speaker C: No.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: So from one to 150, I put my surprise entries in there.
Number two, the second best written songs. We don't know what metrics. Yeah, just songs. We don't know what metrics they've done this on.
[00:47:54] Speaker B: If this song is younger than 20 years old, I'm gonna be gobsmacked.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: Nah, it's not necessarily that. It's more a case of. And to be fair, after reading a couple of them, obviously, I think there's the whole. There's cultural aspects, like, there's a lot.
[00:48:06] Speaker B: Of punk rock, there's a lot of variables.
[00:48:07] Speaker A: There's a lot of, like, civil rights movements, genes. It's like a lot of Vietnam war tunes, so whatever. But number two, public enemy, fight the power.
[00:48:16] Speaker C: And number two, number two, second best.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Song ever made, mate.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:48:20] Speaker A: Believe it.
[00:48:20] Speaker C: That's crazy.
That's crazy.
[00:48:23] Speaker B: Public enemy. Not even a top ten hip hop group. Whatever.
[00:48:27] Speaker A: The whole. They were doing that for like, the whole protest movement of the culture at the time. Fucking pick any other rap group.
[00:48:33] Speaker B: Yeah. No, that's not it.
[00:48:34] Speaker A: There was not one NWA tune to be seen in the. In the top 20.
[00:48:38] Speaker C: Really?
[00:48:38] Speaker A: Not one.
[00:48:39] Speaker B: Not cream. Cream is a. Is such a way.
[00:48:41] Speaker A: What nwa do you think you said?
[00:48:43] Speaker B: Anyway, I heard Wu Tang. Carry on.
[00:48:45] Speaker C: How.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: How would lift me up and, like, fucking call.
[00:48:53] Speaker C: Friendship?
[00:48:57] Speaker A: He will. Let me sit that down. He will.
[00:49:04] Speaker C: Okay. Do you know what, nw? You heard the w, then you went, I'm trying to link it.
[00:49:14] Speaker A: Number eight, Kingston Missy Elliott, get your free. Come.
[00:49:18] Speaker B: They had her.
[00:49:19] Speaker C: Look at his face.
[00:49:20] Speaker A: What the fuck is that?
[00:49:22] Speaker B: No, they had her like this. What? Like the fourth best rapper all time of somewhat crazy as well. They really rating a massive.
[00:49:29] Speaker A: Honestly, get your free.
[00:49:31] Speaker C: Yo, who is. Who is doing this?
[00:49:33] Speaker A: No, Miss Elliot worker is 56.
[00:49:36] Speaker B: Yeah. That's crazy.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: And I'm not being. To be fair, we'd be here all day. To really gauge how bad these are, you have to see the ones around it.
[00:49:44] Speaker B: Keep reading. Go on.
[00:49:46] Speaker A: Number 20 is dancing on my own by Robin.
Could you even tell me how that goes?
[00:49:55] Speaker C: Is it. Oh, how's it going? No, no.
[00:49:56] Speaker A: I keep dancing on my own.
[00:49:58] Speaker C: Nope.
[00:49:59] Speaker A: Exactly right. A lot of people do know that song. They couldn't tell me who the artist is. Right. I only know it cause I read the list and I want to look into it. The most popular version of that song is a fucking x factor. Winner Callum Scott is called outrageous.
[00:50:13] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:50:13] Speaker A: 20Th best song ever written, mate. Best song ever written. And for context, joint number 17 is Bohemian Rhapsody.
[00:50:19] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:50:20] Speaker A: That should be easy.
[00:50:23] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. Bohemian Rhapsody has to be up there. Definitely.
[00:50:27] Speaker A: Top three, I think. Top three? Me? Cause the thing is.
[00:50:31] Speaker C: No, but we're talking about songs of all time.
[00:50:33] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:50:33] Speaker C: Top ten behemoths.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: It's such a tough one. Like I said, there's lots of this. I think someone summed it up, actually. I should say there's lots of right answers, but, like, there's some really wrong answers. Bohemian Rhapsody being number one isn't a wrong answer. People could not agree with it, but it's not. It deserves to be up there. And I've always thought it's so hard to gauge something like the best song ever made. But beaming Rhapsody has everything. 17. They put it 17.
[00:50:58] Speaker B: Go on. I want to hear that, like 15 will be like Fifi with Nicki Minaj and Takashi. Six ix. Nine in something ridiculous.
[00:51:04] Speaker A: Number 30 was Royal by law.
[00:51:07] Speaker B: Royal.
[00:51:07] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
No. Like when that came out, that had the world in a chokehold.
[00:51:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Big tube up 30th. Like, best song ever.
[00:51:16] Speaker A: That's a song ever made.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: No, but, like, that song's not.
[00:51:18] Speaker C: I'm not gonna lie, that song. Well, let's be real in it. Somebody's. That song was like crap even still.
[00:51:24] Speaker B: But that's a metric.
[00:51:24] Speaker C: Gotta be like crap maybe because. No. Cuz I could find myself even there.
[00:51:30] Speaker B: No good reason.
[00:51:32] Speaker C: But what number is it? 30.
[00:51:34] Speaker A: 30? Yeah.
[00:51:34] Speaker C: Now it'd be way lower than that.
[00:51:36] Speaker A: But that's all the point.
[00:51:38] Speaker C: I'd be like, 458. Is that 500? Didn't you said 558? But you should like down there.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: I thought I'd have been going extra, but I should have put the rest of the list, because if you saw what 29 was in 31, you'd be like, that is scandalous. That's 30.
[00:51:52] Speaker C: But what do you think about the. It was the apple. The Apple music album or do you think that was like we said, I.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Think it was better than the Rolling Stones.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: Definitely.
[00:51:59] Speaker C: Way better.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: I still think some of them were a bit wild to put in there. But it's obviously very subjective. It's impossible.
[00:52:05] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely.
[00:52:06] Speaker C: But does number one deserve its flowers?
[00:52:08] Speaker A: So this is the thing. I also thought I was a bit of. A bit of the wrong person to ask, because I'd literally made a TikTok a couple of days before saying, nah, do you know what? Miseducation Lauryn Hill could be a go album. Like, people can't deny it. And then it went and got first and I was like, I've kind of got down that hill now. Yeah, because it's one of my favorite albums. But is it really the best album ever? Thriller was second. I think that's it.
[00:52:29] Speaker B: If it is, then it should be. It should be considered, like the best hip hop album all time. It's in the top ten, but it's not one.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: I think the top ten was difficult, but Thriller is the only album that on every single metric of what makes a good album slept should just be number one by far.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: You know, it should have been thriller, off the wall bad, then songs of the key live. Stevie Wonder. You should have gone, Michael, Michael, Michael, Stevie. That's a good top four.
And then throw in whatever else at 500 Elvis.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: I'm like, anyway, the more problems with the top ten list were just like, lemonade by Beyonce was ten. Like, it was recency bias. I thought a lot of it. And people were like, and again, I suppose that's what I meant when I say I'm kind of the wrong person for it because a lot of hip hop fans were like, yes, this list is pretty good, but that's just one.
[00:53:18] Speaker B: I thought I was a hit.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: One bond by Frank Ocean was five. That's honestly my go album. I have the record vinyl right there. I think, in my eyes, number five, at least. But it's not, though, is it? Probably not, is it?
[00:53:30] Speaker B: It's also way too. New record came at 2016, I think.
[00:53:33] Speaker C: Yeah, that one. Someone just was not doing their research. They kind of asked around, oh, what's your favorite album? Everyone's out. And then went, okay, this is how I like them.
[00:53:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I'll tell you what, though.
[00:53:44] Speaker C: What?
[00:53:45] Speaker A: This is a clip right here.
[00:53:46] Speaker C: Go on.
[00:53:46] Speaker A: Zayn Lowe. You know, Zane Lowe, the Apple DJ, the bald Aussie dude you recognize. I think he might be New Zealand.
[00:53:52] Speaker C: I think so, yeah.
[00:53:52] Speaker A: Anyway, he's the one who interviews everybody, right? He absolutely nailed it. Right. He was asked on some, like, talk show about the list, and they meant. And they grilled him on the same stuff we've just had a conversation about. And he said, the thing is about Frank Ocean's blonde. He said. Cause he's a bit like us. He loves the album, obviously. He's like, the reason that one is debatable is. Cause if you ask anyone who was given it the time of day, they'll say, it deserves it. Flowers. It deserves its flowers. But because of the niche kind of album it is, it hasn't got the support to be that number of lists. And I thought it was a good way of putting it. Cause if you've given that album, it's chances.
[00:54:27] Speaker C: The thing was the album of all time, isn't it? Best album of all time. C. Yeah.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: That's just not right, is it?
[00:54:32] Speaker B: Do you also think because he's dropped nothing since then, it. Then it becomes more revered because more iconic? If he'd. If he'd sat on that, if Drake stopped her. If you read this, it's too late in 2016. And gave his one arm. Since then, they all have more. They all have more value. But because if he's throwing out a new tape every summer, winter, can we.
[00:54:51] Speaker C: Not talk about a boy?
[00:54:55] Speaker B: We've spoke like, five episodes in a row on it as well.
[00:55:02] Speaker C: Did you, did you hear the. With sexy red that he hopped on? He did it.
[00:55:06] Speaker A: I honestly didn't think it was real at first.
[00:55:07] Speaker C: I was like, but what did you think of it?
[00:55:09] Speaker A: I thought it was shit.
[00:55:10] Speaker B: I quite liked it.
[00:55:12] Speaker C: So it started off great. I was like, ooh, okay, first thing Drake has dropped since this whole situation.
[00:55:17] Speaker A: Felt brave, to be fair.
[00:55:18] Speaker C: Yeah. But then he hopped on it. I was like, this is corny. This is so corny.
[00:55:21] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:55:22] Speaker C: And then my boy went, what else do you expect from Drake? Oh, and, yeah, that's his bad. Yeah, this is corny, man.
[00:55:30] Speaker A: But another reason why I think Kendrick wiped the floor with him, because Drake's supposed to dominate the comedic, kind of like, making jokes. Kendrick stepped out of his lane into Drake's lane.
[00:55:38] Speaker C: Drake to Drake's lane. And they cooked him.
[00:55:40] Speaker A: Cooked him.
[00:55:40] Speaker C: But have you seen the whole, what's it called? New ho king in Canada?
[00:55:44] Speaker B: No.
[00:55:44] Speaker C: Oh, so the restaurant, they were talking about ways that, oh, I could go new hooking and eat.
Yeah. So it was like, it wasn't doing great. It wasn't doing great.
And then. No, think about it. Then in the space of what, how long was the beep? Let's say three weeks. Drake came, ate there, shot his video. Video. Then everyone's coming there. Cannot order the Kendrick special. And there's a whole Kendrick special.
[00:56:07] Speaker B: As if he'd even call it back to.
[00:56:09] Speaker C: It was like dying out where, like, you could go there. You could always get a table. Now you have to book, like, four months in advance and all this.
[00:56:15] Speaker B: Yo, that'll be like, biddily mega chippy. That'll die out in a couple months as well.
[00:56:19] Speaker C: No, but still. But imagine, though. Imagine, like, right now, like an artist from London.
[00:56:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:56:25] Speaker C: He's talking about some place a Manchester artist used to eat. Yeah. And then that place blows up because that London boat, that's a violation. I completely, personally, I wouldn't have it.
[00:56:36] Speaker A: I sent so many videos of, like, clubs in. In Vermont and, like, all these big canadian cities just.
And, like, Drake's supposed to dominate.
[00:56:45] Speaker C: I think it's dying down. I've seen a video now of a DJ. A DJ got kicked out of a venues form because he played not like us.
[00:56:51] Speaker A: I reckon that's because of Drake's like, yeah, no, Jake.
[00:56:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:53] Speaker A: That's not definitely.
[00:56:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:56:55] Speaker A: Do you know, actually that's a perfect segue because Drake's first entry in the top five.
[00:56:59] Speaker B: Let me guess.
[00:57:01] Speaker A: What do you think Drake's most critically acclaimed song is? Best song. What would you expect to be on.
[00:57:05] Speaker C: In the Rolling Stones?
[00:57:06] Speaker A: One in the Rolling Stones?
[00:57:07] Speaker B: Over my dead body legend Marvin's room. Marvin Zube's a good shout. Don't tell me.
Hotline bling. It's gonna be one dance.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: Semi close.
[00:57:18] Speaker B: One dance. It's not one dance either. Don't tell me.
[00:57:21] Speaker C: I'm trying to think. What would it be?
[00:57:22] Speaker B: I'm trying to go through like tick.
[00:57:23] Speaker A: When you hear it to give you a clue. It's definitely his pop bottom.
[00:57:27] Speaker B: Now we're here.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: No, it's definitely his poppiest one.
[00:57:30] Speaker B: Like people who don't bring him one dance. That was them.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:57:37] Speaker C: I just said it.
I'm gonna keep it.
[00:57:42] Speaker A: Put it this way. Like, people who like Drake does that thing where every now and then he drops a pop tune that people who hate rap.
[00:57:48] Speaker C: God's plan.
[00:57:50] Speaker B: God's plan.
[00:57:53] Speaker A: Do you want it?
[00:57:54] Speaker B: That's gonna really annoy me. I'm not.
[00:57:55] Speaker A: Hold on. We're going home.
[00:57:57] Speaker C: We're going home.
[00:57:58] Speaker A: I can't believe that.
[00:57:59] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's not even him. That's those two. Is it the two brothers?
It doesn't count with Drake now. We know all his ghostwriters.
[00:58:06] Speaker A: We don't even know Drake isn't Drake. Yeah, I mean, that.
[00:58:10] Speaker B: Take care as well. That's old, old Drake.
[00:58:15] Speaker A: Again, this is the thing, like, I know we all hate Drake right now. Obviously, we love lots of Drake's tunes. That ain't in the top ten.
[00:58:22] Speaker B: No, it's not. I can hear you 20 times.
[00:58:25] Speaker C: Was it in top ten?
[00:58:26] Speaker A: No, no, no.
But actually, what I wanted to say was 96.
This one really annoyed me. Gives the artist 96. Jay Z, his first song. What do you think? Is.
[00:58:42] Speaker B: Not New York state minds. I would have thought it would have been that someone from the black.
[00:58:47] Speaker C: No, no, that's not just Jay Z.
[00:58:49] Speaker A: I mean, off the top of my head, I think it's his first entry. I think it might have been. It might have not been. But anyway.
[00:58:56] Speaker B: I'm not even the biggest Jay Z fans, you know.
[00:58:59] Speaker A: It was 99 problems.
[00:59:01] Speaker B: Oh, that makes sense.
[00:59:02] Speaker A: Which makes sense.
[00:59:03] Speaker C: But 99. Was it 99 problems? I want 96.
[00:59:05] Speaker A: Nice. Thank you. Did that not just piss you off?
[00:59:10] Speaker C: Lazy, literally. If you're gonna do it, just do it.
[00:59:13] Speaker A: Like, don't put him in the nineties. If you're not gonna put it 99.
[00:59:15] Speaker C: Oh, I would have done, like, 98 just to be cheeky.
[00:59:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they missed the boat on that one.
[00:59:20] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:59:20] Speaker A: Beyonce's formation was 73. Fucking.
[00:59:23] Speaker B: I love formation. But. Yeah, but shouldn't be. Shouldn't be in there.
[00:59:26] Speaker A: I mean, it's like who run the world in the top hundred, right?
[00:59:30] Speaker B: I would have thought deja vu be in there like this.
[00:59:32] Speaker A: I think crazy love was the highest. I think that was the crazy in love, I think was in the top 20, which, again, that surprised me. A great song without. Surprised me.
[00:59:38] Speaker B: She's gonna be in there because she's at the top of the.
[00:59:40] Speaker A: Well, exactly.
[00:59:41] Speaker C: That song is a button that song is about.
[00:59:43] Speaker A: But what I did want to say was, the thing is, with Beyonce's. Oh, yeah, sorry. Who run the world girls. One thing I'll never give for Beyonce, why she shouldn't be in these lists is there's a perfect. In fact, I think it was Bohemian Rhapsody. There's a meme that went round with, like, nerdy musicians or whatever, of, like, the state of the music industry these days. And it was all the lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody, the genius of it, written and produced by the band. Four names. And realistically, it was probably Freddie and Brian May, argument sake. Who run the world girls. 90% of the lyrics were who run the world girls. Who run this mother for three minutes.
[01:00:18] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:00:18] Speaker A: 25 writers.
[01:00:20] Speaker B: That's how it is, though, when you're that big.
[01:00:22] Speaker C: No, but it also includes. Has to include, definitely the verses and everything as well, though. Yeah, but, yeah, still, I get your point.
[01:00:30] Speaker A: And again, we're not going to sit here and act like that wasn't a chimp. Like, it was a chim. But it's not the point. Like, that's the problem with Drake, though.
[01:00:35] Speaker C: Sorry, take it back. But that's the problem with Drake, because he wants to be a rapper. But as a rapper, you can't have loads of people writing your songs.
[01:00:42] Speaker B: No, you can't.
[01:00:42] Speaker C: And then, um. What else? All these, um. What's it called? Yeah, no, the demo. You're like, all the demo tracks are being.
[01:00:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:00:50] Speaker B: What?
[01:00:50] Speaker C: They called the draft.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: Oh, what? When it's just the demo takes, like, the writers of.
[01:00:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Who originally recorded it. What's the actual name for them?
[01:00:57] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[01:00:58] Speaker C: How am I losing? I'm blanking.
[01:00:59] Speaker A: No, no, no.
[01:01:00] Speaker C: Sample tracks. Yeah, the sample tracks.
[01:01:02] Speaker A: It was. Oh, my God.
[01:01:04] Speaker B: What if his own stuff or would you mean, like.
[01:01:06] Speaker C: No, so, like. No, so the stuff that he released. So, for example, what song was it? There was a song. So let's say he released where the song is, then the sample tracks are being released. So it'd be like, little ya wrote it.
[01:01:18] Speaker A: Reference tracks.
[01:01:19] Speaker C: Reference track. There we go.
It was not coming to me. Sample tracks are the closest.
[01:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:24] Speaker C: So all these reference tracks of the original people writing songs. But then there's some of Drake's biggest songs.
[01:01:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:30] Speaker C: So now we're just like, who even.
[01:01:32] Speaker A: Are you speaking of? Which. Sorry. This one will blow you away if you don't already know it. Drunken love. Who did the reference track?
[01:01:39] Speaker C: You know?
[01:01:39] Speaker A: Do you know it? I did the reference track for drunken love.
[01:01:42] Speaker B: Don't tell me that, big ass.
[01:01:43] Speaker A: You won't guess.
[01:01:44] Speaker C: You won't get.
Nah, you're not even close.
[01:01:49] Speaker B: Benny Blanco.
[01:01:50] Speaker C: No. Think of someone who like you. You'd be like, nah, yeah, american.
She's a boy on you, right?
[01:01:59] Speaker B: Is it an actual american rapper?
[01:02:01] Speaker C: American rapper? I'm trying to give you as little clues as, ASAP.
I say Joey Barras. No, no. Okay. No, you're going too much. In turn, go more into, like, the autunie.
[01:02:16] Speaker B: Oh, laloozy.
[01:02:19] Speaker C: No, wait, it's not.
[01:02:20] Speaker A: It's not future.
[01:02:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, it's future. Yeah.
[01:02:25] Speaker B: No, we said think it was either go future or it's gonna go young thug.
[01:02:28] Speaker C: Future. Have you heard the reference?
[01:02:31] Speaker A: I think it's sick.
[01:02:31] Speaker C: The reference track, I enjoyed it way more.
[01:02:33] Speaker B: Welcome in this kitchen.
[01:02:34] Speaker C: So, you know, the way he was rifted was crazy.
[01:02:38] Speaker B: But when did drunken love come out?
[01:02:39] Speaker A: Ah. 20 1413.
[01:02:42] Speaker B: I wasn't. Future wasn't really active that early.
[01:02:45] Speaker A: I remember.
[01:02:47] Speaker C: Literally. Yeah.
[01:02:48] Speaker A: And again, like, Beyonce has everyone in the room. Like, Beyonce is one of them. That's like, oh, you're about to be massive. Come on.
[01:02:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:02:55] Speaker A: Frank Ocean.
[01:02:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:56] Speaker C: I feel like being naughty. That's my thing. I think being a singer is different. When you're a singer, like, the one thing you can do is the performance aspect of it. Only you can do that. Like, Chris Brown said it in it. I might have writers bum the Olu when you can sing it like that. So it's different. Whereas rap. Rap is more of a sport. Rap is a sport. Your pen is part of your ability in it. Your pen is how you shoot the three, if that makes sense.
[01:03:17] Speaker A: It's like Ronaldo saying, everyone scores goals for me, but I'm still the best goals.
[01:03:20] Speaker C: Exactly.
[01:03:21] Speaker A: That's it.
[01:03:21] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[01:03:22] Speaker A: You know, it's a pride thing as well.
[01:03:24] Speaker B: I've said this on rappers before, and I think this is why they're similar to fighters. Where you notice how most rappers first tapes, or often their best, because that's when they're hungriest and it's when they're still flipping burgers.
[01:03:35] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
[01:03:36] Speaker B: So you feel it in their music, and then when they're ten years in and they're rich as hell, what are you spitting bars about?
[01:03:42] Speaker C: I think that's more the audience than being able to relate now. You know?
[01:03:45] Speaker B: That's what I mean. But I think it's just got a much different feel.
[01:03:48] Speaker C: Yeah, of course.
[01:03:48] Speaker B: Well, I'm hearing nars almatic, and I'm listening to a 17 year old who's just. Who's broke and who's writing this, like.
[01:03:55] Speaker C: Nah.
[01:03:56] Speaker B: Yeah, unreal music. Even though, like, he just got, you know, a couple years ago, his first Grammy for kids dead. Like, it's still valid 25 years late, but it's kind of like, the better stuff is the earliest.
[01:04:09] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely, man.
[01:04:10] Speaker A: Well, do you know what could be the perfect segue for that?
[01:04:12] Speaker B: Go on.
[01:04:13] Speaker A: Right now we have the album rollout for Slim Shady's new album.
[01:04:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it's coming out today.
Slim shady, definitely.
[01:04:21] Speaker A: Slim shady.
[01:04:21] Speaker C: Oh, no. I saw something like Houdini sign saying retiring.
[01:04:25] Speaker B: Like, he's killing that character off in. It's. We had David Blaine saying, I want to make. I want to disappear. Some people think this might be his last album, that he's out, which I doubt, because every time someone says that, they're not.
[01:04:36] Speaker A: Again, easily time. Example of, like, his time. If he'd have stopped writing ten years ago.
[01:04:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:04:46] Speaker A: There'S a.
There's an awful way of saying it, but there's a blessing, almost, in your career dying young. I mean, everyone talks about. Well, you know what I mean? But like the 27 club, for example, musicians that blew up, died at 27. You got your Kurt Cobain's, your blah blah blah. Like Jimi Hendrix, for example. Jimi Hendrix. People talk about him like he's one of the goats, right? He's got, what, one album out? Two albums out?
[01:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:05:08] Speaker A: If he'd have lived to be like Miles Davis. If Miles Davis had died and his peak, he'd have been one of the best musicians to ever live. We can't all sit here and act like it's not sad to see Miles Davis, God, completely off the ball. Like, he made some real shit. And that's why, just, like, you know, just statistically, ratio wise, he's made a lot of trash. He's made you die at your top, you're gonna look like a goat.
[01:05:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:05:31] Speaker A: If Eminem. If Eminem. Eminem had. I'm not gonna say, dad, that's a bit harsh.
[01:05:36] Speaker B: No.
[01:05:36] Speaker A: If he'd have retired and stopped recovering.
[01:05:43] Speaker C: In this, the rap scene now, these older artists, to me, obviously, so it's banger, but like, Lil Wayne did it the best in it. Like now he was. He dropped his stuff for a bit, but then he was just. Now he's just doing features where he's just. He's just bodying the features. So what was it?
[01:05:57] Speaker A: He did that?
[01:05:58] Speaker C: Yeah, he did that. Wasn't only last year where Nikki. Nikki dropped. Did that. They did that song. He's always gonna be something green, something green. And I was like, they were like, that could easily be one of Lil Wayne's best verses ever.
You know what I mean?
[01:06:12] Speaker A: He's never lost it though, innit?
[01:06:14] Speaker C: Yeah, but because he's not relatable, him dropping four bodies of work now won't have the same traction. But fantastic coming out with features every now and again.
[01:06:24] Speaker B: Years ago when he did his whole guitar, when he's playing guitar on the record in it, so he's usually different. He's going, I'm gonna play electric now.
[01:06:32] Speaker C: I love that rock art I did.
[01:06:33] Speaker B: I really loved it as well because it was something different and it's.
[01:06:36] Speaker A: And he deserved to do something tricep like that.
[01:06:38] Speaker B: And he's found some of these artists, like, nikki's not here without him. Drake's not here.
[01:06:41] Speaker C: Yeah, without him.
[01:06:42] Speaker B: So don't cash money records or not.
[01:06:44] Speaker C: Trust me.
[01:06:45] Speaker A: The thing is as well, like, hopefully that's what we're gonna get from Andre 3000 now, like, you know, and he's retired from rap. Hopefully we still get features and stuff. Cause I honestly will die on the Hills flutes. Yeah. Life of the party on Donda. The extended version of Donda, that Andre verse, one of the best verses I've ever heard in my life.
[01:07:02] Speaker C: Yo. Nah, I agree with you.
[01:07:03] Speaker A: Fantastic.
Andre 3000 has got easy three or four of the top verses in my hip hop horror.
[01:07:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:07:11] Speaker A: And honestly, I think that's one of them. It's just incredible. And feature artists and he says he's got nothing to rap about anymore.
[01:07:19] Speaker C: I'm sure, like, you know, you get to that point though, innit? I'm sure you get to that point, you know, I mean.
[01:07:24] Speaker A: I mean, he. At least he stood up and was like, yo, it's sad calling 40, 50 year old to be like, is that.
[01:07:29] Speaker B: What am I going to wrap up my cholesterol levels? Like, yeah, I get it.
[01:07:35] Speaker C: Yeah. And Eminem, I don't know, man. Like, the last thing, I like the way he raps. It's a bit. It's rude. Say it's outdated now.
[01:07:42] Speaker B: You know.
[01:07:43] Speaker A: Exactly. It doesn't suit being 45.
[01:07:45] Speaker C: Exactly.
[01:07:45] Speaker A: Comfortable.
[01:07:46] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly.
[01:07:47] Speaker A: The last thing that Eminem did that was half decent was his diss track to fucking machine on Kelly.
[01:07:52] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:07:52] Speaker A: And that was only because he, like, stepped out and was like, I'm gonna just.
[01:07:55] Speaker B: I like this stuff with Jordan, but I think only because he, like, he's somebody really reversed. Delivers his best.
[01:08:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:08:01] Speaker B: Shot with logic when he did.
Oh, kamikaze. No, not style, but what's it called?
[01:08:07] Speaker C: Kamikaze was not great.
[01:08:08] Speaker B: No, it wasn't. It wasn't great at all. But on those one, when he's against another actual, like, rapper, because he loves to. The penmanship, he'll deliver.
He just can't write catchy songs.
[01:08:20] Speaker C: No, that's what I mean. Like, at the moment, he's not dropping verses that people want to recite.
[01:08:25] Speaker B: No.
[01:08:26] Speaker C: Old Eminem.
[01:08:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:08:28] Speaker A: Again, like, to give some credit to Doctor Joe. Like, Eminem's old stuff. Not even just his. His delivery. Like, everything about him. The beats alone were iconic.
Let's be honest. Anything post 2013 from Eminem. Can you even tell me other than rap God. In fact, to be fair, even rap God, the beat's shit. It's his delivery that's been iconic.
[01:08:47] Speaker C: No. What's the one?
[01:08:47] Speaker A: I didn't tell you anything.
[01:08:49] Speaker C: He did one, like, recently, like, the most recent one that kind of went. Did well on the charts.
[01:08:54] Speaker A: I couldn't even tell you.
It might be dead obvious, to be fair, but I can't even remember juice world.
[01:08:59] Speaker B: Godzilla.
[01:09:00] Speaker C: It was Godzilla. I like Godzilla.
[01:09:03] Speaker B: Wasn't a great album, but it wasn't great. It's a couple good hits here and.
[01:09:06] Speaker A: There, but again, he needed.
I hear it, but I mean. Yeah, yeah, we could have. We could see this. The thing. I'd love to talk about that all day.
[01:09:16] Speaker B: It could be a four hour podcast, but I guess to get back onto you to close out the conversation. Kingston, what do you have next? What do you want to plug? What do you want to talk about? Where can people go? See you.
[01:09:25] Speaker C: Yeah, well, you know, I'm here then everywhere in it. If you really want to know where I'm at, just follow me. On Instagram, it's call me Kingston on all social medias. But what time is it?
I'm not even wearing my watch.
[01:09:38] Speaker B: Just got eight.
[01:09:39] Speaker C: I've got a track dropping tomorrow. Like, tonight, 12:00 a.m. it's called bad man with my boys. Broken English.
[01:09:45] Speaker A: Nice.
[01:09:45] Speaker C: So, like, it's a little bit of, like, afrofusion type vibe. I'm not going to talk too much about it. That's why we didn't announce it. Meant to be kind of just like, a little surprise for you.
[01:09:53] Speaker A: This will be out when that's already out there.
[01:09:56] Speaker C: But, yeah, that's you.
[01:09:58] Speaker A: Well, let's be honest. If you ever sat at home with nothing to do, it could be a Tuesday night that he's gonna be doing something.
We're playing somewhere.
[01:10:06] Speaker B: Follow his social, see where he's at.
[01:10:08] Speaker C: Follow me on social media. I'm always active. Yeah.
[01:10:10] Speaker A: Damn right.
[01:10:10] Speaker C: Come say hello, message me like I always respond. You know me, I'm always. I'm always on socials doing something.
[01:10:16] Speaker A: Active, active. Well, there you go. Me and Liam want to pass on our massive thank yous, guys.
[01:10:21] Speaker C: Thank you for having me. Long time coming soon.
[01:10:23] Speaker B: Thank you very much.
[01:10:23] Speaker A: And honestly, if you enjoyed the episode, you're gonna enjoy his performances even more.
[01:10:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm a big fan of you guys as well. I watching your watching the series, watching everything you guys are doing got me cracking.
[01:10:34] Speaker B: Appreciate that.
[01:10:35] Speaker C: Cracking up a lot of time.
[01:10:37] Speaker A: It's pleasure to launch series two of you.
[01:10:39] Speaker C: Let's go, let's go.
[01:10:44] Speaker B: Close it out.
[01:10:45] Speaker A: Thank you, everybody, for tuning in for the whole of series one and being here for series two for us. And again, big thank you to Kingston. Stick around for the performance.
It's gonna be a big series, bro.
[01:10:55] Speaker B: Over and out.
[01:10:56] Speaker A: We're gonna be playing the Apollo at the end of the series. Live tickets coming. Joking. But who knows?
[01:11:03] Speaker C: Manifest that one.
[01:11:03] Speaker B: Shit. And gigs.
[01:11:04] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
[01:11:05] Speaker A: I was thinking more series three.
[01:11:07] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. Series three debut.
[01:11:09] Speaker C: Yeah.
[01:11:09] Speaker A: We're gonna be the first podcast winner. Grammy.
[01:11:11] Speaker C: Oh, I like that.
[01:11:12] Speaker B: There probably might already be one, to be honest.
[01:11:14] Speaker C: No, no. Manifest it.
[01:11:15] Speaker B: No, it's not. Yeah, it's gonna be all, bro.
[01:11:16] Speaker A: It's gonna be awesome.
[01:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:11:18] Speaker A: Anyway, thank you so much, everybody. This has been an exciting one, and I can't wait for this next one again. Tune in for the performances. Follow us on all socials. Fillwoods studios on everything.
[01:11:26] Speaker B: Be on screen now.
[01:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that'll be where I'll do that.
[01:11:30] Speaker B: That'll be my job.
[01:11:31] Speaker A: All your streaming platforms, YouTube, everything. And go and check out Cormy Kingston on everything.
Yeah, boy.
[01:11:50] Speaker C: Welcome to feel Wake podcast.
