THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST ep#8 - OVERATED ARTISTS - More pop culture news, best/worst band names

April 23, 2024 01:26:33
THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST ep#8 - OVERATED ARTISTS - More pop culture news, best/worst band names
The Feel Weird Podcast
THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST ep#8 - OVERATED ARTISTS - More pop culture news, best/worst band names

Apr 23 2024 | 01:26:33

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This week Sam and Liam chat all things pop culture, as well as their audiences suggestions for Best/Worst band names! Then they tackle the controvertial topic of overated artists! 

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[00:00:11] Speaker A: Hello, and welcome to the Fillwood podcast, brought to you by Fillwood Studios. Today, I, as always, I'm kid blue. This right here is Liam Maloney, and for the second time, we have Mister Master Splinter. You don't get his real name. You want his real name. I call him Master Splinter. [00:00:24] Speaker B: Just Splinter. [00:00:25] Speaker A: Well, point being, if you want his real name, you need to go to the last episode, because it's the only time we're ever going to mention it, spawn, apart from the eleven times I mentioned it, because I kept going over it. But I'm going to try my best to not refer to him as anything other than bitch names. [00:00:35] Speaker B: Good. As you should. [00:00:36] Speaker A: And on that point, would you like to give us the question of the day of the week? [00:00:42] Speaker C: Your question for the week is, what is the next thing on your bucket list that you want to do? [00:00:48] Speaker A: So he's really getting the brief of thought provoking questions. [00:00:51] Speaker B: He is open ended enough. Well, he said next, though. Not the ultimate, not the first. [00:00:55] Speaker A: Oh, so just the next thing. [00:00:56] Speaker C: The next thing on your list that you just love to do that, like, is just the most appealing off the. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Ones I'm gonna take next is, like, the one I can envision, like, achieve. [00:01:04] Speaker B: You go first. [00:01:05] Speaker A: The next achievable one. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Yeah, go on. What have you got? [00:01:09] Speaker A: I mean, I said that setting up like a hack. [00:01:11] Speaker B: Okay, sick. I'll go then. [00:01:12] Speaker A: There you go. [00:01:12] Speaker B: First I'd want to do. And I actually asked Danielle about this the other day because she was, like, not a big fan of it at all, even though Jess did it either. Jumping out of a plane, parachuting. Parasitic. That's different. Parachute parachuting. You know, skydiving on your back, like, back shots while you're holding onto a parachute because you're not allowed to do it on your own. And left. I think you have to do a certain amount of them or bungee jumping. But I feel like that's less safe than the parachute thing because I'm not trying to, like, have all my organs go, like, way more accidents from bungee jumping than there are from sky. [00:01:47] Speaker A: I'm not having my spleen playing twister while in the air. [00:01:50] Speaker B: You won't have a spleen. It's gonna go connect into two. So I'd like to do something like that, though. Something high, you know, maybe for charity as well. You know, raise a couple. Couple bags for the Christie summer and jump out of a plane, get some back shots. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Get some back shots. I'm not too sure about mine, because, like, I suppose all my bucket list of kind of, like, things I want to achieve more, like, music career wise. So I guess I would like to play a headline show at somewhere like, gorilla, maybe. I think that's, like, an achievable bucket list. I could go for next. [00:02:27] Speaker B: It's a good size venue. [00:02:28] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, but then again, I suppose, like, just average bucket list stuff, I guess just travel a bit more. I don't know. [00:02:35] Speaker B: Cool, vague answer. Nice. [00:02:36] Speaker A: I was gonna say, I'm struggling, this one. [00:02:37] Speaker C: It's the traveling thing. If you've got one place specifically. [00:02:41] Speaker A: We want to go Southeast Asia, don't we? Yeah, we go. [00:02:43] Speaker B: Is it Korea? Japan? You want to go Southeast Asia, don't we? We've molded into that. [00:02:48] Speaker A: I said we. I said we. Did I say you? It's you? [00:02:52] Speaker B: But I've seen southeast, like, Vietnam, like. [00:02:54] Speaker A: Bro, I can give less of a fuck. I go to Cornwall and put shades on me. I'm not really asked. [00:02:58] Speaker B: You're doing it, so you're the tallest dog there. They're like, who is this gorilla? [00:03:02] Speaker A: I'm sending out back shots myself. Just pummeling all these small. [00:03:06] Speaker B: Man. Pause. Right, cool. Well, good. Thanks for. Let's bring it down. Good. Good starting question. [00:03:15] Speaker A: Actually, I'm going to say it as well. A new one I've seen a lot of people talking about. Has everyone heard that, like, Croatia and Dubrovnik and all that, where Dave went for his. I was gonna say stag for his honeymoon. Bit different. Is like the new Mauritius. [00:03:26] Speaker B: No, I heard that. [00:03:27] Speaker A: I've heard a few people saying, and I saw it on TikTok as well. That's, like, there's a couple of places in Croatia where it literally looks like the Seychelles islands. It's mad nice but sweet. No one also fucked me. [00:03:36] Speaker B: No one does. Okay, anyway, should we get started to go straight into the song of the week? Movie of the week? [00:03:40] Speaker A: Yes, we should. Do you want to go first, my friend? [00:03:42] Speaker B: Yeah, go on, then. Go on, then. My first one is feel it by David. You would have heard it potentially on TikTok. And definitely, if you listen to my. [00:03:50] Speaker A: Just David. [00:03:51] Speaker B: I don't know. It's David with a four for the a, so it's d v I d. You might have heard the song on TikTok because we're blowing up right now. It was made for the invincible season finale last week. Speaking of which, Maxwell helm, number one. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Fan, big shout out, messaged me. [00:04:08] Speaker B: He's been watching it and said, like, thank you so much for the recommendation. Love the show. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Is it nice and he was like. [00:04:13] Speaker B: How is Sam not watching this? I was like. I said, he'll listen to no reason. He'll listen to no reason. [00:04:19] Speaker A: So I did one better than that. You showed me an episode. I was like, I showed you the first. [00:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah, but you're so not going to use the word blank that you need to be immediately just gripped by something. [00:04:31] Speaker A: Not at all. That's not me. I don't need to be immediate. I know exactly what we're talking about. I do not need to be immediately gripped at all. I just don't rate cartoons where it's all banging Shazam and stuff and like you said yourself, oh, it's the same as the boys. It's the writers of the boys. It's basically the boys, but, like, cartoon like. Well, the best bit about boys is how realistic it is and it's fucking cartoon. So I'm not really. He's not in his head, so he doesn't. Right. [00:04:52] Speaker B: He didn't get my point. Well, my film. I'm going to do my film the week. [00:04:55] Speaker A: Good song, though. Anyway. [00:04:57] Speaker B: It's a good song when you hear it. We'll hear it after. It's a good song. Film of the week is for, like, the fourth episode in a row is a show, even though I did watch a few movies this week, which were good. But it's the fallout show. I've watched the first two episodes. Have you seen it yet? Splinter? [00:05:13] Speaker C: I've not seen it. My. One of my closest mates has highly recommended it. [00:05:17] Speaker B: It is really good. I never. You know what? I played fallout four for, like, an hour and I was like, this ain't for me. But it was only because I'd not played everything else behind it. Yeah, but it's such a brilliant idea. [00:05:28] Speaker A: It's. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Do you know the premise of it at all? [00:05:30] Speaker A: So I am a bit. I can't remember, to be honest, because I've all been. My dad actually used to play it on Xbox, but I never liked the games. [00:05:37] Speaker B: There was a point that I just. [00:05:38] Speaker A: Know it's some kind of nuclear holocaust. [00:05:40] Speaker B: Yeah. It's set in the late fifties at the beginning, and basically America's on the verge of, like, a war, to my knowledge. And then they were telling people to buy these bunkers that were underground to be prepared for this apocalyptic event. And then it happens. We cut forward 200 years into the future, and then it's the events of this character who's got the most bananas big eyes you've ever seen. Just please get the Ella burst. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw the pictures of the girl. [00:06:05] Speaker B: I've never seen eyes this big on a human. She looks like an actual bug. So big. She's great in the show, though, and she's british. It has a flawless american accent. But it's a really interesting show, and I could see why people who are fans of the game really are glad at how well it was. [00:06:22] Speaker A: I could also see why people who aren't fans of the game would watch it. [00:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah, obviously. But it's a great show, and I recommend you watch it. It's only, like, eight episodes, but it's two episodes in. It's really, really interesting. [00:06:32] Speaker C: I'd be interested to hear someone that's played the games a lot. [00:06:35] Speaker B: Well, I watched some videos of people who had played the games and who had been super passionate about the series, and they said that the Easter eggs and the nuances and the places they go and the products you see are so detailed where if you play the games before, there's a lot of carefully thought out things in there where you go, that's a reference to this. That's a reference to that. So it's not, even though this isn't, like, a bit from any of the games taken into immediate film format, it's a brand new, original, unique story within the world of this fallout. They've carefully planted things for the audience who are fans of the games to really get and enjoy, but still made. [00:07:13] Speaker C: It good for people that are new to like. [00:07:15] Speaker B: It's rated 8.6 out of ten, which is really, really high for IMDb for something. [00:07:20] Speaker A: I mean, even just the way it's shot and all the colors are like, oh, it's stunning. Really, like, the vibe of it. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Stunning. [00:07:26] Speaker A: And what's this face that's playing? The dude with cocaine nose? [00:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah, the guy with. The guy with the big forehead in every. Tarantino. Yeah. I was gonna say he's awesome in it. He's really good. [00:07:35] Speaker A: He's goggins. What a name. [00:07:37] Speaker B: He's also an invincible. But that's what. That's another thing. Oh, well, anyway, that's my song, and we're gonna change the name to, like, movie. So of the week or media of the week. But, yeah, that's my. That's my show of the week. [00:07:49] Speaker A: Interesting. Okay. I like it. Well, my song of the week is not a new song, but it's actually drive me crazy by Lil Yeti. You know, that, like, yacht rock album, it's just a banger I can't think of. [00:07:59] Speaker B: I listened to the whole album when it came out. When I. I remember when I lived at my previous place and I really liked it. Very different. [00:08:07] Speaker A: It's very cool. [00:08:08] Speaker B: I've not listened to it since. [00:08:09] Speaker A: It's very, very cool. Have you heard it? [00:08:10] Speaker C: No, I've listened to it. [00:08:12] Speaker B: No. Sweet. [00:08:13] Speaker A: Well, I'll just jump off a bridge again. Great tune. No one's heard it. And my film of the week, again, for a couple of weeks in a row, is a film that's been out a while. And it is the second time I watched it, but I haven't watched it since it first came out. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Arrival. [00:08:25] Speaker A: And it's arrival. Yeah, yeah. Oh, good one, good one. [00:08:30] Speaker B: Forgot. [00:08:31] Speaker A: I forgot, you know, whatever. [00:08:32] Speaker B: Anyway, he sent me a picture of it. [00:08:34] Speaker A: I did. Yeah. It has to be around. What you can do, though, is pronounce his name for me. Denis. [00:08:37] Speaker B: Denis Velouvre. Yeah. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Denis Veluf. [00:08:40] Speaker B: He's Denis. [00:08:41] Speaker A: What a fantastic film. And I remember it being a good film, but watching it again, I'm still. I still feel like I didn't get it. I must have not got it the first time because it was just. [00:08:50] Speaker B: I think it's one of his highest rated movies. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:53] Speaker B: The. Basically the premise that aliens come down from the jump, from like the first. [00:08:56] Speaker A: Shot, literally two minutes in, and they're. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Trying to learn the language. And basically the lot of the film is Amy Adams character trying to communicate with these aliens. And they've got these patterns they put, like, their things against the glass robot. Yeah. Awesome film. [00:09:09] Speaker A: But it's actually like, I mean, I think, to be fair, I think you said it last night, but my biggest compliment for it was it's such a. Told a story we've heard a million times before, told from a different angle completely. Like, how many times did the aliens come and actually do want to just like. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Yeah, just chat. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Just chat. [00:09:24] Speaker B: They just wanted to come down, start a podcast and get. Get to. [00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah. The reason they wanted to do the tech is cause they need the human race's help in like 3000 years from now or something like that. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:09:33] Speaker A: But I thought it was mint because the whole point is that when she then finally clicks and can understand the language, she realizes that by using that language. I mean, I couldn't really tell you why cause it was still baffling. But she. They don't view time as linear anymore. [00:09:48] Speaker B: No, no, they don't. [00:09:49] Speaker A: So then what was really clever was from like the start, one of the first things you see in the film is like, she raises a daughter and the daughter dies of, like, well, we assume it's cancer or something. But. And then she's, like, having flashbacks to whenever she's trying to teach the language of the aliens and stuff, the heptapods, I think they call them. And whenever she's trying to teach the language of that to people, she's, like, having flashbacks of when she's had to teach that similar premise to her child. And then it's really clever because it's like a moment like, oh, well, over three quarters of the way through the film where you clock that? Oh, hang on a minute. I don't know if this kid has happened yet because you never see the dad as well. So then it's just like. I mean, it was just a minefield the whole way through. I'd like to watch it on. It was on Amazon. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Amazon cold. I'm gonna give it another watch then, because I really liked it. [00:10:32] Speaker A: So worth it. And again, just rent on Amazon. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:10:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah, we did rent it, actually. I forgot. But I've got your account, so that. [00:10:39] Speaker B: Means I've got it. [00:10:40] Speaker A: I was gonna say, you watch it in the next couple of days. [00:10:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:45] Speaker A: But visually as well. I mean, no shock, because it's him. But, I mean, this is one of the first shots. It comes over the hill. [00:10:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:51] Speaker A: With the ship and this coming over the hills. [00:10:53] Speaker B: Fantastic. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's fantastic. [00:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:56] Speaker A: I do think every film he's put out, I could easily, like, blow up a massive. [00:11:00] Speaker B: Was it you or James that we watched prisoners together for the first time? It was you. And it was like, is that him? That was him. [00:11:06] Speaker A: I did not know that. [00:11:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:07] Speaker C: The Hugh Jackman. [00:11:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:10] Speaker B: And it's so good because you're like, well, obviously it's not Paul Dano's character because he's got the mind of a ten year old work. And then he, like, says something to him and he thinks it's him and. [00:11:19] Speaker A: He'S just so rated. [00:11:21] Speaker B: Third for his movies is exactly where it should be. I think it's so good. [00:11:25] Speaker A: I haven't seen that second one. What's the second one? Incendis. Incendis. [00:11:29] Speaker C: Incendis. [00:11:29] Speaker A: No, it's a french film. [00:11:31] Speaker B: I won't be watching it. [00:11:32] Speaker C: So, yeah, we're just looking at the Dennis. I don't even know how to pronounce Denis. [00:11:36] Speaker A: Denis Villeneuve. [00:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Looking at. Yeah. For all listeners, we're looking at Denis Villeneuve's IMDb. He's got dune part two, first french film, second prisoners, third Dune part one, fourth blade runner 2049. Then arrival at six, Sicario. [00:11:49] Speaker A: Six Sicario's another one I haven't watched that's supposed to be mint. And in fact, another 1 second one's supposed to be better in it. [00:11:54] Speaker B: Yeah. He's only got, what, like eight movies out. Nine movies. [00:11:57] Speaker A: Really? [00:11:58] Speaker B: Nine films out. [00:11:58] Speaker A: I thought he did the second sicario as well, though. [00:12:01] Speaker B: Oh, I would have thought he did as well. Maybe he wrote it or produced it. [00:12:04] Speaker A: Don't know. [00:12:05] Speaker B: Anyway, either way, though, he's credited for it. He will have done something. But, yeah. Top choices. Splinter, what's your song of the week? [00:12:14] Speaker C: My song of the week is from a good friend of mine called Molly Becker and his magnolia. [00:12:18] Speaker A: Oh, Molly Becker. Yeah. Legend. [00:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, chef. [00:12:21] Speaker A: He's no idea. [00:12:22] Speaker B: No, I don't. [00:12:23] Speaker C: She released it late last year. [00:12:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:26] Speaker C: But yeah, just a, like, super talented singer and all of her songs are just absolutely beautiful. Could not. [00:12:31] Speaker A: I did listen to a few of the things she released last year, and they're amazing. Heming's a big fan of her, aren't you? [00:12:35] Speaker C: Yeah, just off the magnolia rep, but the actual sog, magnolia on there's just beautiful. [00:12:40] Speaker B: Lovely, stunning. What kind of, what kind of vibe is she? [00:12:43] Speaker C: Kind of like, nice, like harmony and kind of like folk and pop almost. [00:12:48] Speaker A: Yes. [00:12:48] Speaker B: Lovely. [00:12:49] Speaker C: I get a different feeling from each one of her songs personally, but I feel like knowing her personally, you can feel like her energy throughout the songs. [00:12:56] Speaker B: Really good. [00:12:56] Speaker C: Highly recommend. [00:12:57] Speaker B: Nice. Okay. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Beautiful stuff. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Lovely. And then your movie slash show of the week. [00:13:02] Speaker C: Yeah, me and Sam were just talking. [00:13:04] Speaker A: About it just before. [00:13:07] Speaker C: I've been watching the people versus OJ Simpson this week. [00:13:10] Speaker B: Yes. Wait, have you started yet? [00:13:12] Speaker A: So that's why we were talking about. Because you've seen it a few times, haven't you? [00:13:16] Speaker B: Oh, you've already seen it before. Yeah. I told Sam to watch this week and I thought he'd taken my record recommendation and just, like, delivered it to you. But it's a. It's such a good show, so I don't want to take your thing. It's really well told. [00:13:30] Speaker C: Really talented cast. [00:13:31] Speaker B: Amazing cast. [00:13:32] Speaker A: I mean, the cast I've seen. Yeah. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Cooper Gooden Junior. Sarah Paulson plays the Ross from friends. Yeah, he plays Rob Kardashian. [00:13:39] Speaker A: Swimmer. [00:13:40] Speaker B: It's gone. [00:13:40] Speaker A: He plays Rob. He plays Rob. [00:13:43] Speaker B: It is Rob, isn't it? [00:13:43] Speaker C: Yeah, he does play Rob Kardashian. [00:13:45] Speaker B: It's got thing in his. What's he called? Grease, Greece Lightning. What was his name? Oh, John Travolta. John Travolta. [00:13:51] Speaker C: Travolta plays. [00:13:52] Speaker A: And who's, who's the. Ben Shapiro, the first war machine from first time. I forgot his name. [00:13:58] Speaker B: Don Cheadle. Oh, no, the first one. Terrence Howard. [00:14:02] Speaker A: There you go. He's in it. In he? Is he not? [00:14:04] Speaker B: I don't think he is. [00:14:05] Speaker A: I thought he was. I mean, I hadn't seen it. [00:14:07] Speaker C: I'm not sure. He doesn't come up on this. [00:14:10] Speaker A: No idea, really. [00:14:11] Speaker C: Like, brilliant cast and the story obviously is just. It's so fascinating. [00:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, can I ask then for someone for both of you have seen it then? [00:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:19] Speaker A: How. Let's say accurate. Because obviously, I can imagine the difficulty of trying to portray this whole episode in the series. [00:14:27] Speaker C: This is the thing is that they've. [00:14:29] Speaker A: Got to pick a side, aren't they? [00:14:29] Speaker C: Really? Reenact all of the. Because the whole trial, every part of the court. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:35] Speaker B: It was televised. [00:14:35] Speaker C: Televised, course. So they were. The casting is brilliantly done to represent the story really well. And what was difficult for them, I think, was to fill the gaps that obviously they could only go off people's books because everyone wrote a book apart from Lance Eo, who was the core. He was like the judge. [00:14:55] Speaker A: Oh, right. [00:14:55] Speaker C: He was the only one out of all of the people that didn't write a book about it. [00:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Well, then again, that's what I mean. There's like so many perspectives, so many opinions. [00:15:03] Speaker C: Why he didn't write a book about it. And I don't want to give you a. [00:15:05] Speaker B: You kind of see it from without. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Wait, did he do it? [00:15:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Lance. Eat over, Jose. You've seen it from the perspective of OJ's character and Sarah Paulson's character as the main prosecutor. Yeah. Against him, obviously. There's bits when it's like her at home, she's having a fag talk to someone, which you obviously don't have context for. But the main filler of what happened. [00:15:27] Speaker A: And everything is this. [00:15:29] Speaker B: But they do a good job of not trying to be like, hey, look, he obviously did it. And also, of course he didn't. I think it should show more that he did do it, to be honest. I think with some of the stuff that I remember that leaning towards it, like he rejects a polygraph, doesn't it? Or fails. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Yeah. He didn't take one. Didn't he? I know that. [00:15:46] Speaker B: No. [00:15:46] Speaker C: So he, he did do the lie detector thing. It was back then, but he did it with just two people in the room, one of them being Ben Shapiro Kardashian. So. And he did awful on it. [00:15:58] Speaker A: But. [00:15:58] Speaker C: Yeah, because he'd. They had so much other evidence, so they didn't they never went to the. The lie detector eyes. They had so much. They honestly had so many files. And it's such an interesting story to see, like the crumble of this perfect case. It's given to you on the spot. So many things unexplained that so much that just leads to him doing it. [00:16:17] Speaker A: I mean, there's even stuff I've even heard, like, you know, with, you know, when he. About the glove and things. [00:16:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Like, didn't he's doctor, like, take him off his blood pressure med so that his hand would also, when you see. [00:16:26] Speaker B: The scene, it's just as ridiculous as it is in the show. He looks like he's stretching so much and he's like, doesn't fit. [00:16:35] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:35] Speaker B: And he's just really trying to make it fit. But just because we've already got in here to talk underneath it as well. Yeah, but the point. [00:16:41] Speaker A: Put two pairs of gloves on. No, definitely, because I fucking couldn't. [00:16:43] Speaker B: But the point is, and I see people talking about this this week because obviously he's just died, that obviously the deathbed confession in the NDA, and it's believed to be the conspiracy here, or it's not even conspiracy, because it seems like from multiple sources, it's come out that the jury that was on it acquitted him from the crime for revenge against the LAPD, for the beating of Rodney King and that case. And it was them saying, because of what you did to Rodney King and the death of Rodney King, we're gonna double check that name for not making that up because I'm all sure that's it. Yeah, for the death of Rodney King or the beating up of Rodney King by the same police department, we're gonna let him walk free, which I think. [00:17:25] Speaker A: Is a really important one, I completely believe. [00:17:28] Speaker B: Did he not die? [00:17:28] Speaker A: Rodney King? God makes. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Oh, did I get the right. [00:17:31] Speaker A: I was convinced. I mean, it's still the famous attack, but I thought he died in the attack. [00:17:35] Speaker C: Well, the biggest thing was that I know roughly what you're talking about with the incentive of the jury. And the issue was there was a lot of riots in 1992 that were based upon police and their behavior towards the citizens. And obviously Rodney King was abused in that sense by the police. So then all these riots came about. [00:17:59] Speaker A: And years later, obviously, the OJ chops, the existence of the NWA was like, largely a fact of what happened to Rodney King as well, wasn't it? [00:18:08] Speaker B: Massively. [00:18:08] Speaker C: But yeah, the verdict, obviously he never got found guilty. When he was arrested in 2008, it was over kidnapping. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Spoilers again. I haven't seen the series. [00:18:16] Speaker A: Matt. [00:18:18] Speaker C: 2008. He got evicted. Sorry. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:23] Speaker C: And really interesting. So you really should watch it. [00:18:25] Speaker A: I'm good. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Yeah, watch it before next episode and give us your review on it. Should you have the time for it? [00:18:30] Speaker A: I'll tell you whether he did it. [00:18:31] Speaker C: Did you want to talk about the whole NDA on deathbeds thing? [00:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we can. We can go to it now. We can go to it now. Before we go. Yeah. [00:18:38] Speaker C: Do you want to give us the. [00:18:39] Speaker B: Facts if you got some. [00:18:40] Speaker C: Yeah, let me just get on here. [00:18:42] Speaker B: Yes. [00:18:42] Speaker C: So the NDAs that he had people sign, he had his four children, two of them being from his ex wife. [00:18:49] Speaker A: Who he making your kids sign NDAs on the deathbed. Fucking speaks volume. [00:18:53] Speaker C: He had them the week leading up to his death. He had all of his friends that he knew close to the time to sign them and his kids to sign the NDAs in his last few days alive. But there was no, there's never been like a full conviction that he was found guilty. Even with all evidence, even with them reviewing it back in 2005, they still didn't because they reopened the case briefly for six months and tried again and just couldn't because they'd appealed so much about it, about past facts that they. [00:19:21] Speaker B: Couldn'T prove with the NDA. Do we know the t's and c's of how, how withstanding that is? After death? If Sam makes me sign the NDA for something, he dies. How long does that legitimately hold up. [00:19:34] Speaker A: Someone'S comments of the post? [00:19:36] Speaker B: Like, how does that work? [00:19:37] Speaker A: I mean, one thing is, it's different in America, but like, because normally, yeah, an NDA after death is just. [00:19:44] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just null and void. So it would just be a case of. Also, he's done an NDA to go, what? By the way, didn't he go, yeah, we all know Dan. Like, what's the NDA for? What could he possibly have said other than, hey, I know you guys think it was someone else. It was actually me, literally. [00:19:59] Speaker A: I mean, it's the only thing he's going to like. [00:20:02] Speaker B: What else could it be? [00:20:03] Speaker C: So from what I'm from Reddit is that the NDA will have a clause based on how long they want the NDA, and the NDA length will depend on how much they get paid for it. So say they wanted the NDA signed for 30 years, then it would be a bigger contract. [00:20:21] Speaker B: I see. [00:20:22] Speaker C: But I think what they're saying here is about that OJ, for the example that we're talking about with OJ is that he would have assigned someone to sort out the NDA problem. So if someone did go back on it, then he would have a team post death, and then he would have profits from that. Go to his family, I presume will be what is. [00:20:41] Speaker B: I guess that makes sense. [00:20:42] Speaker C: There is still rules. It just depends on, like, how long they sign it for and that kind of thing. But there'll be a cap. I'm sure there'll be a cap, because you can't. Someone forever, you can't give someone. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Well, this is it. [00:20:54] Speaker B: So we might hear something in our lifetimes, but who knows? But that's interesting. Okay. [00:20:58] Speaker A: I'm very intrigued. I'll tell you what. We've got a couple of other topics we want to touch on, won't we? First of all, I've got something I'm really excited to tell you. When we were talking about. I know we've covered a couple of the Deadpool leaks early on. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But you've got some. I don't know, apparently so. [00:21:13] Speaker A: Well, I'm hoping you don't know. [00:21:14] Speaker B: I feel like I might do, because there's so much come out. [00:21:16] Speaker A: And again, we did cover a lot that came out at the start. And now, obviously, it's almost like Doctor strange multiverse madness. [00:21:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:22] Speaker A: Basically, everyone's expected to turn up. But I have seen a leaked photo and I sent it splinter so that you could see it right now. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Oh, cold. Go on, then. Let's have a look. Let's have a look. I describe for audio listeners what we're watching. [00:21:36] Speaker A: That right there is Henry Cavill as Magneto. And I look at lots of different angles of that. [00:21:47] Speaker B: It's a Henry Cavill Magneto shot, long white hair. No, wait. No, I know it's not true. [00:21:52] Speaker A: I mean, very well could not be true. [00:21:53] Speaker B: No, I know it's not, because it's been confirmed that he's playing. Oh, he's playing a Wolverine variant, and he's playing a long, long coat overcoat Wolverine variant also. You know how. No, it's not true. [00:22:05] Speaker A: I mean, it looks a lot like the witcher. [00:22:06] Speaker B: Then it's the exact same haircut from the witcher. And also, when the hell, there's no way, if they're going to go magnetic, they're going to put big ass m on his shoulders. [00:22:13] Speaker A: I know, but that's why I thought, is that not just a random variant? No, I think I've seen lots of different ankles as well. In the same suit, possibly, but I think. And that's more shocks than anything. [00:22:21] Speaker B: This happens every time a new mouthfield come out, because I remember when we saw WandaVision come out, there was a. There was a magneto, a very convincing Magneto set leak. I'm doing an air quotation that turned out was nothing. So I'm gonna say I'm gonna put my chips on. 99.9%. Not valid. But I think it's a really compelling pitch, and especially because it's, like, bad. What's it called? [00:22:45] Speaker A: It's a bad. It looks like it's. [00:22:47] Speaker B: It's been made bad on purpose. Do you know what I mean? Like. But, yeah, I don't think it's got any weight to it, but I'm almost positive that it's been confirmed from loads of leakers that he is in the movie. [00:22:55] Speaker A: Well, this is Wolverine, and I think I said to splinter before, as well. One thing I'm confused about is that, besides if he's playing this Wolverine variant or not, the MCU has been trying to find a role for him. Like we said last week. We can't. They've been trying so hard, and I just don't believe that they'd waste a variant of Magneto on him. [00:23:11] Speaker B: No, it's a weird. Also, you don't need magnet. Magneto's not supposed to be buff and young. He's also old, like, long white hair. Anyway. Yeah, it wouldn't. It just wouldn't be the right. It wouldn't be the right fit. So I'm gonna say. I'm gonna call cap on that. [00:23:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:23:24] Speaker C: There's nothing confirmed. Marvel. [00:23:26] Speaker A: No, they never is. [00:23:27] Speaker C: They sent out a statement in Feb saying that they've not gotten casted for a ball at that minute in time. [00:23:32] Speaker B: That's. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Well, that's what they would say. [00:23:34] Speaker B: Captain Britain. [00:23:35] Speaker C: Makes sense for the Reddit page about why. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:23:39] Speaker C: We're not gonna waste. Yeah, fair enough. [00:23:41] Speaker A: Fair enough. [00:23:41] Speaker B: Okay. Interesting, though. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Well, then another thing that was leaked was. Oh, actually, today, right now. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Go on. [00:23:46] Speaker A: A couple of hours ago. [00:23:48] Speaker B: What was it? [00:23:48] Speaker A: I think it's. Can you just check for me? Explain? I think it's scorsese that's doing it. [00:23:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Yeah. [00:23:52] Speaker A: That's Frank Sinatra. Frank Sinatra with Jennifer Lawrence, Leo DiCaprio, and Jennifer Lawrence playing his second wife. [00:23:57] Speaker B: I like it. [00:23:58] Speaker A: I love it. [00:23:59] Speaker B: Big fat fan. [00:23:59] Speaker A: I love it. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Do you want to hear him sing? No, I do not. And I hope someone else does it for him. And he just. [00:24:04] Speaker A: AI can do a fantastic francine. [00:24:05] Speaker B: They can. They've gotten off by now, but, yeah, Frank Sinatra movie. [00:24:08] Speaker A: It's Scorsese in it, produced by Scorsese. [00:24:11] Speaker B: You know how this, this actually doesn't come as a surprise because I remember Leo is the most incognito on the Internet forever. And he put out a statement a couple months ago saying, my next projects I've signed up for I'm incredibly excited for and I cannot say a word yet. And it most likely would be this because why would it not be like his, what, 9th film with Scorsese now or something? And also who plays real people better than DiCaprio? Oh, my roles he's played at least I was going to try and count, but I can't think he's played at least five or six at least real people. And I think to him to play a Frank Sinatra at the end of his career, possibly, which I think would be a better fit and a more. [00:24:53] Speaker A: Compelling story, I just hope they touch into all of the mafia stuff. Me. [00:24:57] Speaker B: It would be good because people don't. [00:24:58] Speaker A: Realize Frank Sinatra lived such a fucking life. Besides the fact that he's that like one of the most iconic voices to ever walk to the earth, for sure. The man has lived like 5 million lifetimes. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:25:11] Speaker A: And had, so he probably had so many stories to tell himself. But, and again, and you know, to be fair, I think you agree with me, but like controversially, I've never watched, and purposely I've never watched the Rhapsody buy up just because I know it's full of shit. [00:25:24] Speaker B: It is. [00:25:25] Speaker A: And it's been like proven so much stuff and it was just not grateful or great. Yeah. And like the good things to the, the interesting stories to tell about Freddie Mercury were completely blanked because they didn't want to tarnish his reputation or whatever. But that being said, I am a sucker for buyups and I loved the Ray Charles one. I was telling Splinter about that before because that is my go to. You've got to watch it. Deserve an Oscar for that 100%. [00:25:50] Speaker B: 2004, was it? [00:25:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was 2004, but Jamie Foxx and when it's like first big film as well, something. [00:25:56] Speaker B: It was his first leading, I think it was his first leading picture and. [00:26:00] Speaker A: He'S the most, that's the most convincing I've ever seen, I think. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Well, because it's the rare time when the person who's playing can already play keys and sing and there's a flawless impressionist and again, and just happens to look exactly like Ray Charles of that era. [00:26:14] Speaker A: And fun fact, which you'll probably know, they hired him and they didn't even know that he could play or sing. And then they told him on set. [00:26:22] Speaker B: Where did they find him? Because his stand up routine. He plays and sings. [00:26:25] Speaker A: I know. How could you not know? Well, there's a video of him jamming with Ray Charles. [00:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I was just gonna say Charles. It's. Look, when did Ray Charles die? [00:26:33] Speaker A: It's not long after the film. I'm sure it's 506. [00:26:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:26:38] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing. This. They don't always actually get to meet them, do they? [00:26:41] Speaker B: No, they don't buy up. [00:26:42] Speaker A: So that's. [00:26:42] Speaker B: Which is. Which is tough. [00:26:44] Speaker A: I reckon it was 6004. [00:26:48] Speaker B: He got to see the movie just then. He would have got to see early. You would have got to see it early, for sure. [00:26:52] Speaker A: Well, that's true. Yeah. [00:26:53] Speaker B: They definitely would have made him see it early. [00:26:54] Speaker A: I mean, good for him, though. But again, this is the thing, like, that buy up of Ray Charles showed a lot of the things that. Of Ray Charles being a bit of a bastard himself. So, like. And that's what I think a goodbye's about, because, like, all these, you know, like, crazy, like, they're all. All these idols have got skeletons in the closet. You wouldn't seen it. [00:27:17] Speaker B: You got hope that they. Yeah, you saw an early, early release of it. Like, we know the boys is finished and from, like, two weeks ago is finished, ready to go, but we're not going to see it for a couple months. So you got hope that he would have at least seen some scenes or something if he knew it was the end of his life. [00:27:31] Speaker A: Well, I mean, at least we can find comfort in knowing that, you know, Jamie Foxx had his blessing and. Yeah, like, that clip of them jamming. Like, apparently that all the directors were saying that was Ray Charles, like, really grilling him to see if he was. [00:27:43] Speaker B: If he had the chops. [00:27:44] Speaker A: He did. [00:27:45] Speaker B: And he very much did. [00:27:46] Speaker A: He did. [00:27:47] Speaker B: He very much did. [00:27:47] Speaker A: But anyway, yeah, so I. I adore Frank Sinatra, and I used to love him so much growing up. And there isn't a better actor on the planet to pull off someone like Frank Sinatra, Leo DiCaprio and Scorsese playing that era as well. It's like prime Scorsese. So I can't wait. And I. The only thing I hope it's not is like, like when we were talking about the Bombardi buy up recently, like, it was good, but it was just like, I saw the scene. [00:28:12] Speaker B: I've seen so many comments and people were loving it. Also, does he have an iPhone 15 in it? Simon Bob Marley. [00:28:18] Speaker A: I've not seen that. [00:28:19] Speaker B: People said they've, they spotted an iPhone. I mean, I won't be surprised in one of the shots or something, there was a story almost died. I haven't seen it yet. But there's a little mistake somewhere. If you just go, just go on. [00:28:34] Speaker A: The main web search because that there wasn't, that top article said that's what I saw. [00:28:38] Speaker B: He pulled out a photo, but I haven't seen it. I damn near left movies. [00:28:44] Speaker A: So it says when Bob Marley pulled out an iPhone 15, I damn near left the movies. [00:28:47] Speaker B: But when it comes down to streaming, people carefully look frame by frame. But I feel like maybe. [00:28:51] Speaker A: Well, it definitely happened. There's enough people that have said it. [00:28:54] Speaker B: Will find it next time. [00:28:55] Speaker A: That's fine. Anyway, anyway, that was one of the rare examples of where, well, not rare examples. Sometimes with biops they'll, like, they'll tell it through flashbacks, but then they'll focus on one, like month and again, it was like, it was focusing around when he first got shot and stuff. And I actually enjoyed Bob Marley film, but I think it's only because I'm a big Bob Marley fan. No, I don't think the film's great, but I do. I just hope Frank Sinatra especially cause Leo is in like middle age where he could probably pull off younger and they can make him look a lot older as well. [00:29:24] Speaker B: I think it makes sense to do a seasoned. He's into his career and then you get the mafia stuff and the stuff he was involved with and whatever, 100%. And the dangerous people he was around. I think that makes way more sense. [00:29:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I absolutely love that. [00:29:35] Speaker B: Stunning. Can't wait. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Is there any other film stuff, Sonic three cast you've put there? I have no idea. I still haven't watched the first two Sonics. [00:29:41] Speaker B: You know, they're great movies, kids movies. [00:29:43] Speaker A: I love Sonic growing up. [00:29:44] Speaker B: Really good. I love Sonic growing up. But they've cast is announced. They've cast and I'm actually not. So Hayden Christensen, aka Darth Vader Hayden. [00:29:54] Speaker A: Is in the news. [00:29:54] Speaker B: No, no, I don't think he is. So months and months and months ago, he was attached to the project and I went, that's our sonic. Because of course it is. Who would be better to do Sonic than him? [00:30:05] Speaker A: And then it came out in already Sonic in the first two. [00:30:07] Speaker B: Sorry, shadow. [00:30:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, of course. [00:30:09] Speaker B: Yeah. To play Shadow. But now, as of yesterday, they announced that it's. That it's now Keanu Reeves is going to play Shadow instead, which is a fucking, which I was immediately like, really didn't love it. [00:30:21] Speaker A: Really? Yeah. [00:30:22] Speaker B: And I'm a fan of Keanu Reeves, obviously a much bigger fan of Hayden Christensen, obviously being a Star wars fan. But I just feel like his. It's too obvious to go with john. To go with John Wick to play Shadow also, firstly. No, no, no. He hasn't got the chops for it and I've seen him in because it just does his voice the like. Also in this movies, I don't even know how they're going to do it with the guns because I don't understand how in this universe, in the games, it made sense for some reason that he's just got a Glock or a desert eagle and he's pulling out of his ass foreskin. He just pulls out of his ass a desert eagle. But in this one to have him just like, sonic, pass me that desert eagle, like, I just can't imagine it. Like, I don't know if he's going to do some sort of voice, but he's just going to do the John Wick voice. But this is what I mean. [00:31:08] Speaker A: I don't think that's going to be bad at all. I love that. [00:31:10] Speaker B: I don't think it's going to be bad, but I would have preferred. I would have preferred. [00:31:13] Speaker A: So what is. So do we know he's definitely in Eddie Christian? We just don't know he's playing. [00:31:17] Speaker B: No, I don't think he's in it anymore. I can't see it. [00:31:18] Speaker A: He's all over IMDb there, wasn't it? [00:31:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:20] Speaker C: We're seeing like, top stories a couple days ago that they're thinking about it and it's a rumor. Maybe it's in the midst of being confirmed because we've got a couple of days in between. One saying that he hasn't won unless. [00:31:33] Speaker B: He'S playing a different villain. Because I don't think John care. John. John Kerry. I don't think Jim Carrey's coming back to play doctor Eggman, is he not? [00:31:41] Speaker A: He loves playing Eggman, though. [00:31:42] Speaker B: He did. He said he loved it, but he's kind of finished now. And he said something. Unless it was written on golden paper, whatever he said, or written in golden ink, he wouldn't come back. But I just don't love the sound of that guy's in. What's it called? That guy's in Ted Bundy. Whatever it's called. The football show. Not Ted Bundy. Ted Lasso. Ted Bundy is a football coach. Yeah. Standard. Which one that guy, the curly hairden? No, not that guy. [00:32:08] Speaker A: He's gonna say he's not. [00:32:10] Speaker B: Go down underneath Hayden. [00:32:12] Speaker A: That guy underneath Hayden. [00:32:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he's the Mexican. Yeah. [00:32:15] Speaker A: Do you know he's supposed to be a rip off of Javier Hernandez Chikorito? [00:32:18] Speaker B: I don't know who that is. [00:32:19] Speaker A: Ah, fuck off. [00:32:20] Speaker C: I get it. [00:32:20] Speaker A: Thank you, thank you. [00:32:21] Speaker B: You get it. Colby Maynooth. [00:32:25] Speaker A: I mean, props for even knowing who that is, but. [00:32:28] Speaker B: So, yeah, that was it. Sorry, that was it. [00:32:31] Speaker A: Started laughing at that again. [00:32:32] Speaker B: Oh, Kristen Ritter's in it. [00:32:33] Speaker A: I also heard that we got a release date for the Kendrick Lamar musical by the makers of South park. [00:32:41] Speaker B: Love it. Big fat fan. Yeah, I saw the same headline. I'm interested. I like to see him doing different, different things. [00:32:47] Speaker A: I have no idea. [00:32:47] Speaker B: I don't know what that musical is. [00:32:48] Speaker C: Going to be, but July 2025. [00:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is mad. [00:32:52] Speaker B: That's soon. [00:32:52] Speaker A: I mean, realistically, I still don't think we've heard anything else about the project at all. But I'm not being funny. South park creators and Kendrick Lamar. [00:33:00] Speaker B: Yeah, love it. [00:33:01] Speaker A: I mean, they could, they could do it about crumpets for all I care. That's going to be entertaining. [00:33:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it'll be good. That'll be good. [00:33:06] Speaker A: South park. [00:33:07] Speaker B: Speaking of which, while we're on thingy, I don't want to make a whole segment out of it because we've got a lot of other stuff to cover. But just to mention a few bit, I just wanted to mention Drake's bars against Kendrick. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:33:16] Speaker B: New songs just to react to this. Just hold on. This is on his new track. [00:33:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I've heard it. They dropped me 50. No, no, different one. There's another Drake diss track. [00:33:30] Speaker B: There's another Drake diss track. It's Drake's the name rappings my game. K dot. More like K not. I see England, I see France. I see Kendrick's underpants. Okay, then Kendrick Lamar, more like Kendrick Lane bars. Did you not hear it? No, I didn't hear that. Yeah. I see England, I see France. I see Kendrick's underpants. Well, I'm not being funny. [00:33:58] Speaker A: The actual diss track was about Kendrick's height, so it's not like it was too different. Anyway. [00:34:02] Speaker B: Also, Drake come over Kendrick's height when he's like maybe three inches taller. I know Kendrick's sure, but Drake's probably only five eight, isn't it? [00:34:10] Speaker A: I mean, to be fair, now I'm saying this. We've not actually delved into because we've kept up to date so far, haven't we? But the newest diss, he's definitely not 182. [00:34:18] Speaker B: Is he bolling? [00:34:19] Speaker A: Is he bolling? [00:34:20] Speaker B: I don't think he's that tall. [00:34:22] Speaker A: Six four? [00:34:23] Speaker B: I wouldn't have thought he was six foot. I know. Kendrick's probably, like, five four. [00:34:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Drake's the kind of guy that wears, like, chops on his feet to make him look taller. [00:34:29] Speaker B: My Omar's bigger than six. Five's a big difference. [00:34:32] Speaker A: To be fair, I'm barely bigger than five'five. I could take Kendrick. [00:34:35] Speaker B: Cole should really come for both of their heights being six'four. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Look at his face. No, Kendrick would shank me up. He's from Compton. I'm sorry. That's fair. I think I've got an inch on him, though. I think I'm five'six. [00:34:48] Speaker B: I don't think you could survive the weight of his wallet. [00:34:50] Speaker A: That's a fair point. [00:34:53] Speaker B: Anyway, yeah. [00:34:54] Speaker A: So are we not going to discuss the comeback from Jake then? [00:34:57] Speaker B: We can do. But I've just seen so many things that it's actually because none of them being on, a lot of them not been on official streaming channels or official YouTube accounts, and people think that some of them or all of them or none of them might be AI. And by the time this comes, Drake's. [00:35:11] Speaker A: Voice is one of those, like, 20 voices that AI can do really well, though it is. [00:35:15] Speaker B: But when listening to Kedricks, I thought the bars sound good and all the comments were, if there's an AI, whoever wrote this should be a rapper, because they really couldn't. Because I feel like you can tell more from how the rhymes are constructed, if they're Kendrick or they're Drake or not. But they sounded legit. But then I feel like I was listening to it going, let me just imagine, this is AI now and it's still convincing. That that couldn't be. [00:35:37] Speaker A: I mean, I'd not thought about it, but the second you said it, I can believe it, because it was because. [00:35:41] Speaker B: Of how quickly came out, not through, like I said, official sourcing channels. And I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out and they go, yeah, we didn't write that. [00:35:48] Speaker A: That's not what. I also do think that could be a bit of a lame excuse in case it flopped, though. [00:35:52] Speaker B: It could be. I mean, it's the ultimate get off Jfree card. When they go, if everyone says, hey, this guy won, the other guy goes, yeah, I didn't write him anyway, so it doesn't count. It's the ultimate, like, cheap move. [00:36:05] Speaker A: The only bit I really enjoyed out of the diss track, though, was what he said to Metro booming. [00:36:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, play. I'm not gonna shut the fuck up. [00:36:12] Speaker A: And make some drums. [00:36:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:14] Speaker A: Or the word, which I did think was actually fucking well funny. [00:36:18] Speaker B: I mean, he just obviously immediately just went and broken a relationship with one of the hip hop's biggest producers. [00:36:26] Speaker A: I did actually see someone saying Metro booming is like, powerful enough to just turn the whole of hip hop producers against Drake. Now, he could do. And at the end of the day, Drake can't do fucking anything on his own. So it would just be, well, putting. Everyone's like, no, I'm not coming there. You know. But, yeah, I'll tell you what, that's a good point. Should we hold off until it's. [00:36:41] Speaker B: Hold off. Hold off for now, because we wanted. [00:36:43] Speaker A: To keep up to date to this whole little beef journey. [00:36:46] Speaker B: By the time you see this on TikTok, if you are. Yeah. Well, then it's all happened. It's come and gone. [00:36:52] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:36:52] Speaker B: But we'll see. Well, okay, interesting. While running it, should we go through? Last week on the podcast, we were discussing. Quite naturally, we got onto the worst band names possible because we mentioned how the Beatles was just not a good band name at all. [00:37:06] Speaker A: Yeah, just. [00:37:06] Speaker B: And we just said, take away from him. We said, next week, next episode. When we come back, both of us have a list of good and bad band names. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Yes, we should. [00:37:15] Speaker B: Do you want to go first with the good or should we do. Let's both do the good and then we'll both rattle through the bad. Okay. [00:37:19] Speaker A: We'll go for good. I haven't ordered them. [00:37:21] Speaker B: That's fine. [00:37:21] Speaker A: I haven't ordered. I don't think it really matters. [00:37:23] Speaker B: I can imagine. We've both got a lot of the same names on him. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Well, I don't know, you know, because I tried. I tried not to think too hard. I didn't either, because I did think that this is the kind of thing that if I spent a week on. [00:37:32] Speaker B: It, you're overdoing it. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Overdoing it. So I just went with some of the top ones that came to mind. [00:37:37] Speaker B: Me too. And I just went through my place of. It went, of course. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I did do a bit of that. [00:37:40] Speaker B: Of course. You. [00:37:41] Speaker A: I think, NWA. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Go on. [00:37:44] Speaker A: Even though it's technically a rubber group, but it's abandoned. [00:37:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:46] Speaker A: I'm obviously not gonna repeat what it stands for, but I think it's. I think especially because this is the kind of thing as well. I mean, I'm sure. We're gonna find this a lot in the list, but, like, a lot of these names. And again, we tried to separate the name from the. From the project, because an iconic band like the NWA. The NWA is a brand itself, is, like, bigger than anything these days. But I do think as a name as well, it was, like, minus some. [00:38:08] Speaker B: Bands I know, all their songs, some I don't like, some I don't listen to, some I listen to a lot. So there's no. I've tried to make sure I've kept it as strictly about the name, because a bad band will make a good name bad, and a great band will make a bad name good. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Well, exactly. That's why I thought this was a bit challenging, though. [00:38:26] Speaker B: But anyway. [00:38:27] Speaker A: Sorry, taming parlor. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah, carry on, Scott. [00:38:30] Speaker A: I think that's a coolest fuck name. [00:38:31] Speaker B: It is. [00:38:32] Speaker A: And I've got a tribe called Quest. [00:38:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:34] Speaker A: That is just the coolest. [00:38:35] Speaker B: It is a great name. [00:38:36] Speaker A: That's a great collective name. [00:38:37] Speaker B: Fantastic name. [00:38:38] Speaker A: I mean, like, you know, proper rap collective names are, like, hard to come by, but the likes of Nwa in Brockhampton, stuff like that, I think a tribe called Quest. [00:38:46] Speaker B: Cold name. Yeah, cold name. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Wutang clan. [00:38:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:49] Speaker C: Obviously, just thinking Wu Tang Clan's a. [00:38:53] Speaker B: Great one, and it's also fit, so. Really fits their vibe of the eastern. The karate, the martial arts, the fighting. It just fits perfectly. [00:39:02] Speaker A: And then, like. Because at the end of the day, the branding of Wu Tang is obviously what's one of the things that's kept them so timeless. But you can't, like as much as good branding can, you know, polish a turd. Like, it still had to be a cool as fuck name, and it was a coolest name. And then my last one, I've kind of joined as one, which is semi cheating. And it's nirvana and foo fighters. [00:39:20] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's. [00:39:21] Speaker A: Because it's technically half the band. [00:39:23] Speaker B: Yes. We can give you that. [00:39:24] Speaker A: And I also thought, I can't do six, but I think Nirvana is the coolest football name. Free fighters, or as Christopher Walken would. [00:39:30] Speaker B: Say, fighters. [00:39:33] Speaker C: Interview about the context behind it all. [00:39:36] Speaker A: So good in it so long after. [00:39:38] Speaker C: I thought he was just saying that for the. That was his instinct, but. [00:39:42] Speaker A: So is it foo fighters or Foo fighters? [00:39:44] Speaker B: Foo fighters. Yeah. He said, where's the infliction on? It went, odd fighters, full fighters. That's a good impression. Spun. Thank you. [00:39:52] Speaker A: I mean, yes, of course. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Looking through, I didn't have any of the ones you said, but all of those. I absolutely agree. [00:40:00] Speaker A: I'm glad then go led Zeppelin. Great name. [00:40:04] Speaker B: Ledger's theory. Oh, you both played for. And I really like as a name. I think it's a great name, but I like his logo as well. Paramore. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Oh, paramore's a good one. [00:40:13] Speaker B: Van Halen. [00:40:14] Speaker A: Van Halen's a great name. [00:40:15] Speaker B: It is, isn't it? Bipolar sunshine to be banned from Manchester. Great name. [00:40:19] Speaker A: Your boy, as well. Always keeps play race. [00:40:21] Speaker B: High flying birds. [00:40:23] Speaker A: Oh, no, Gallaghers. High flying birds. [00:40:24] Speaker B: No Gallaghers. High flying birds. I quite like it. I think it's quite. [00:40:28] Speaker A: I don't know about that one. [00:40:28] Speaker B: Stereophonics, I would say. [00:40:31] Speaker A: That's a great name. It is a great name, but my band when I was 14 was called the Stereotex, which was awful. That's an awful band name. And it also ruined the name stereophonics for me. [00:40:40] Speaker B: Well, cool. I'm glad to know that you made the list. System of a down. I like my chemical romance. [00:40:50] Speaker A: That's a great one. [00:40:50] Speaker B: It is. Great one. [00:40:51] Speaker A: This is way more than five, by the way. [00:40:52] Speaker B: It is. I did not know the five was for the overrated. I got more for this. Oh, I'm gonna do five each are joy division. [00:41:00] Speaker A: Great name. [00:41:01] Speaker B: Deftones. [00:41:02] Speaker A: Deftones is a great name. And it just reminded me that I had Joy division in there originally. But I got ready for five, so that's a great fun name. [00:41:07] Speaker B: I think if you look at those there, the list we've got together of maybe, what, 20 plus. That's a solid set of names. It's a really good shout out to. [00:41:16] Speaker A: Jake as well, because, like, leisure theory is actually a great name for band and I can't heard it. [00:41:20] Speaker B: I said, I think it's a great name and I think his logo is even better. [00:41:23] Speaker A: There's a book in it, I think. I can't remember. [00:41:24] Speaker B: I don't know what it is. I don't remember him asking, you know. [00:41:26] Speaker A: He'S like, his books. [00:41:28] Speaker B: It might be leisure theory. [00:41:30] Speaker A: Anyway, should we go for bad names? [00:41:31] Speaker B: Bad names? [00:41:32] Speaker A: Because these are my best ones. [00:41:33] Speaker B: Go on. [00:41:34] Speaker A: A bad one or a good one, though? [00:41:35] Speaker B: Bad one. Go on. [00:41:36] Speaker A: What's your bad one? The stiff Dylan's. [00:41:38] Speaker B: Stiff Dylan's? I've never heard of. [00:41:40] Speaker A: Shout out the camera woman over there with Stiff Dylan's on all these. I'm guessing they're a band. [00:41:45] Speaker B: It's from Angus. Thongs and perfect snogging. Oh, well. [00:41:49] Speaker A: Like a name of a bandit in the film. [00:41:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:52] Speaker C: I'm embarrassed that I knew that. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Did you watch it recently? [00:41:56] Speaker C: Yeah, my girlfriend's housemates were watching it. So I watched it. [00:41:59] Speaker A: Sure. They were introduced, my twelve year old cousin, to it. [00:42:03] Speaker C: And I think I probably should have waited. [00:42:08] Speaker B: I thought it was like a coming. [00:42:10] Speaker A: Of age early teenager film. [00:42:12] Speaker B: No. [00:42:12] Speaker A: Is it not? [00:42:12] Speaker B: Maybe not first year of secondary school. Maybe not. [00:42:16] Speaker C: Maybe like for eleven year old, you. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Can get the nuances of what they talked about. [00:42:22] Speaker A: Fair enough. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Fair enough. As she would be doing a cousinly duties then, I guess. Right. Anyway, bad ones are. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Do you want to go your five? [00:42:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes, I'll go mine. I've got a few more than five. Only like eight, though. [00:42:30] Speaker A: Keep going then. [00:42:31] Speaker B: First one, cruel kingdom. Second one, fresco. Moy funkey. Oh, yes. And those are the only two I could get. And I asked Matt. I asked. I said it already. [00:42:44] Speaker A: I said it once. [00:42:45] Speaker B: I asked Phoebe, I asked David. [00:42:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:50] Speaker B: I was like, give me all of Sam's ex band names. He's like, these are the only two. And I went, only you would know any others? He went, there'll be loads of others. [00:42:57] Speaker A: But he said there was more. [00:42:59] Speaker B: Worked for artists and not like in specific band names. He said those were definitely his band names. I went second by them on the list. [00:43:07] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:43:07] Speaker B: Fresco. Moi. [00:43:08] Speaker A: Funky. Actually made mine, so go for it. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Oh, good one, guy. [00:43:10] Speaker A: We did drop the moy funky at one point. I never liked that name. Just saying. I want to provide it out there. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Next one. Huberstank. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Huberstank. [00:43:19] Speaker B: I think catfish on the bottom. In Bobbin's name. I don't care if you like the group. I like a couple songs. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Catfish in the bottom and I think is pretty cool. [00:43:26] Speaker B: The Beatles. Yeah. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Lint biscuit. See, I actually had limp biscuit in my baby, but then I more thought about it. More thought about it. I thought, that's fucking brilliant. [00:43:36] Speaker C: I think it's really good. [00:43:37] Speaker A: It's brilliant, isn't it? A biscuit that's limp? There isn't a limp biscuit. I think it's fantastic. [00:43:42] Speaker B: Our next last two, the chain smokers. Would you mention last name? And the last one submitted by my mum. Never heard of it. Oh, God. Yeah, this was puddle of muds, which. [00:43:51] Speaker A: Is a real band, apparently. [00:43:53] Speaker B: So, yeah, for context. My mum replied to my Instagram story and put the question out there. Any bad names? Did you just put puddle of mud full stop on? Is that a real band name? I went to the. I went to Spotify. They got 5 million monthly listeners. [00:44:08] Speaker C: They're not scrubs like a link and park. They do early two thousands. [00:44:11] Speaker B: They do. But yeah, this is some sizable group against more than double Manchester's population in their monthly listeners. And I've never heard of them and neither did Sam. Fantastic. So that's my list of bad names. Well, brilliant. [00:44:25] Speaker A: I like them. My bad one. [00:44:26] Speaker B: Go on. [00:44:27] Speaker A: My top one. Well, I'll tell you what, I'll miss out the fresco Muyfunkit crawl kingdom, but my top one is psychedelic porn crumpets. [00:44:34] Speaker B: That is bad. How many monthly listeners are they? [00:44:36] Speaker A: Are you thinking like, they've got one song and now I'm not? [00:44:39] Speaker B: This was in my top. [00:44:40] Speaker A: Listen to tunes. Top ten. Listen to tunes. I'll see. And I can't remember what it is to save my life, but they are fantastic. Like math rock band. They're mint. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Okay, go on then. Carry on. [00:44:49] Speaker A: Psychedelic. Wait, psychedelic porn crumpets. Something crumpets. Which is just fantastic. [00:44:56] Speaker B: Go on. [00:44:57] Speaker A: I also thought red hot chili peppers. [00:44:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it is a bad name because that's another one. [00:45:00] Speaker A: The band's made that name cool. Yeah, the name is cool. [00:45:02] Speaker B: I agree. The name isn't cool. [00:45:03] Speaker A: And the same goes for Arctic monkeys. [00:45:05] Speaker B: I think Arctic Monkeys is a horrible name because it doesn't even fit their bag at all. You would not think again. [00:45:10] Speaker A: That name's become massive and is so maybe unique and like, such a. [00:45:15] Speaker C: It was name generator. [00:45:16] Speaker B: I think. It seems like monkey. [00:45:18] Speaker A: Was it. I don't think name generator existed when they formed. It was like. No, it seems like a name generator. [00:45:23] Speaker B: Charles Gambino got a better deal of the name generated name. [00:45:27] Speaker A: Charles Gambino is a great name. And I forgot that was. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Anyway, my other one was goo goo dolls. Goo Goo dolls name Arty monkeys was Cook's idea and he's likely playing the term northern monkey. Right. Fucking rubbish. [00:45:37] Speaker B: I was wrong. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Sorry. I feel like it's the kind of thing they make up years later when they make it big. Oh, yeah. To sort of save face. [00:45:43] Speaker A: We didn't google it. [00:45:44] Speaker B: I think. I think you might be right. They just made up and went, yeah, it's because of this. And it's. [00:45:47] Speaker C: Your team just worked hella hard. [00:45:48] Speaker B: Their pr team. [00:45:49] Speaker A: The real answer's on Reddit, somewhere in it. That's the thing. [00:45:51] Speaker B: Their pr team just came up with something nice. [00:45:53] Speaker A: Anyway, yeah, my number four was goo goo dolls. [00:45:55] Speaker B: Yeah, goo goo dolls is plop. [00:45:56] Speaker A: Great tune, Iris, but what the fuck? Goo goo dolls? [00:46:00] Speaker B: Not a good. [00:46:00] Speaker A: Especially for, like, supposedly a rock band. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:03] Speaker A: Anyway, and my last one, well, like I said, was limp Bizkit. It was the same. But then I'm. I actually thought. I don't know, it's kind of on. [00:46:09] Speaker B: The fence, I'll give you that. I've all my bad ones. [00:46:11] Speaker A: It's probably what I'm also gonna do now is that we had quite a few of the suggestions on Insta. [00:46:16] Speaker B: Oh, go on. I'd love to hear them. Go on, then. [00:46:17] Speaker A: And I didn't make track of everyone's names, but there was a couple that were really funny. We've got dying fetus. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Yeah, that's bad. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Which is just atrocious. [00:46:24] Speaker B: That's bad. [00:46:25] Speaker A: We've got room three, which I'm guessing was a hint at. You there, Splinter. [00:46:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:28] Speaker C: My old band from when I was 16. Appreciate that joke. [00:46:31] Speaker A: Yeah, brilliant radio Houston project said Pearl jam. [00:46:36] Speaker B: Pearl Jam's a great name, which I. [00:46:37] Speaker A: Thought was interesting because he actually said great band, but the name put him off for a while. [00:46:41] Speaker B: I don't get what that means. Would you? [00:46:43] Speaker A: Because it was a shit band name. I can get. [00:46:44] Speaker B: I like Pearl Jam as a bad name. I think that's the. [00:46:47] Speaker A: I've always liked Peeljam because my dad liked Pearl Jam, so I can't really relate. [00:46:50] Speaker B: Eddie Van Halen, innit? Yeah, I like it. [00:46:52] Speaker A: No. Eddie Vedder. [00:46:54] Speaker B: No. Oh, Eddie Vedder. Eddie Van Haley's. Van Halen. I always get mixed up. Yeah, you're right. [00:46:58] Speaker A: Tricked in the name. [00:46:59] Speaker B: There it is. Go and carry on. [00:47:00] Speaker A: Hey, we got. So then we have fresco on my phone, kid. Car seat headrest. [00:47:04] Speaker B: Car seat headrest is cold. [00:47:05] Speaker A: That's fucking actually brilliant, isn't it? [00:47:07] Speaker B: Car seat headrest is good. That's it. Put it back in the. It's in the wrong one. Yeah, that's a good one. [00:47:13] Speaker A: Simple minds. [00:47:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:15] Speaker A: I don't know if that's supposed to be good or bad, but I think that's good. [00:47:17] Speaker B: I think it's good. [00:47:19] Speaker A: I think that sounds like a derogatory term for someone who's mentally unwell. [00:47:23] Speaker B: I read that. [00:47:24] Speaker A: Oh, there you go. That makes sense, doesn't it? [00:47:25] Speaker B: Thanks for your submission, though. I like it. [00:47:27] Speaker A: Simple mind sounds just not appropriate, I don't think. [00:47:29] Speaker C: Yeah, fair enough. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Anyway, pure Stan. [00:47:32] Speaker B: Is that something you know? [00:47:33] Speaker C: Yes. Makes a mind a couple years below at uni. Absolutely terrible. [00:47:37] Speaker A: It's not a good name. Pure Stan. [00:47:39] Speaker B: If they are like, all called Stan, I think it'd be a great name. [00:47:41] Speaker C: Their guitarist is called Stanford. [00:47:43] Speaker B: Is he the front man? [00:47:45] Speaker C: No, he's just the rhythm guitarist. [00:47:46] Speaker B: Oh. He's just a dude in the band. [00:47:48] Speaker C: But he's like the. Not the odd one out, but he's the biggest character out there, I'd say. [00:47:55] Speaker A: Anyway, I thought it was a play on words, that they were, like, all stunning. Do you know what I mean? [00:47:58] Speaker C: Oh, they're way too young to understand the stand. [00:48:00] Speaker A: Oh, God. That's just made me want to jump off. Dinting arch is right now. [00:48:04] Speaker C: Not even gonna fact check and tell them what that is. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Anyway, a good name. Kings of Leon, which I completely agree with. [00:48:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I like kings of Leon. Kings of Leon's a good name. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Her bad name was Black Eyed Peas. Black eyed peas is, again, is a great example of bad name. [00:48:17] Speaker B: Fits their groups. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Made very, like, made into a cool name. [00:48:20] Speaker B: I think it fits them, though, because they're all quite different characters anyway, do you know? Exactly, because they're all very different ethnicities. [00:48:27] Speaker A: They're all very different people. [00:48:29] Speaker B: So I think it kind of fits them. [00:48:31] Speaker A: Don't get it, though. No, I don't really get it. Someone also put, I wouldn't be brave to say it, but lost profits, why. [00:48:37] Speaker B: Would they not be brave to say it? [00:48:38] Speaker A: Oh, Liam, is this the one where. [00:48:40] Speaker B: The guy was a no nce? [00:48:43] Speaker A: Yeah, he was. [00:48:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I know the story then. [00:48:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a lot worse than that. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:46] Speaker A: Anyway, not a great band name. Anyway, regardless of his, you know, preference in. [00:48:50] Speaker B: Of course. [00:48:58] Speaker A: It was really, really, really bad. Let's move on. Anyway, I had a great example from my guy, caveman. He said, shorty shit stains. [00:49:07] Speaker B: That's a real name. [00:49:08] Speaker A: Yeah, and it's actually someone oh, I should have made. No, that's a bad name. Can you google it for a splinter? I know he said it was a bad name, but it was an offshoot of Wu Tang. [00:49:15] Speaker B: Is it? What, like, as members of the Wu Tang clan? [00:49:17] Speaker A: Isn't it shorty shit stains? [00:49:19] Speaker B: I've never heard of that. I feel like I would know if. [00:49:22] Speaker A: This guy's a mint mani rapper. So he's not stupid. He knows. [00:49:25] Speaker B: Oh, so he's not someone from Wu Tang clan? It's a Wu Tang clan reference? [00:49:28] Speaker A: I don't know. He said. He mentioned something in the comments about it. What he was saying. No idea. Yeah. [00:49:34] Speaker C: Sorry. [00:49:36] Speaker A: Anyway. [00:49:36] Speaker B: Okay. [00:49:36] Speaker A: And the other one was King Gizzard and the wizard lizards. [00:49:39] Speaker B: That's a sick name. That's the king Gizzard and the wizard lizard. [00:49:44] Speaker A: That's so bad. It's brilliant. [00:49:46] Speaker B: No, I think that's so good. It's fantastic. I really rate that. [00:49:50] Speaker A: Anyway, to go back to Shorty shitstain, I'm still confused because the Wu Sang symbol is everywhere, but we can't find quickly. Anyway, we can't find what the link is. [00:49:59] Speaker B: He doesn't look like any of the Wu Tang members where I would go, oh, it's that guy either. So I don't really. I don't think it is. [00:50:05] Speaker A: It wasn't as simple as him being a weird. I remember it was something he said. [00:50:07] Speaker B: He's taking so much from it. [00:50:08] Speaker A: This guy's pretty old school. [00:50:09] Speaker B: That's a good list, though. That's all. [00:50:10] Speaker A: Thank you, everybody, for their suggestions. [00:50:12] Speaker B: Lizard gizzards. What was it? [00:50:13] Speaker A: King Gizzard and the wizard lizards. [00:50:15] Speaker B: Cold name. [00:50:16] Speaker C: Say that ten times really fast. [00:50:18] Speaker A: King Gizzard and the wizard lizards. [00:50:19] Speaker B: That's a great name, that King Gizzard. [00:50:22] Speaker A: And the wizard lizards is just so bad. [00:50:25] Speaker B: Imagine the front of that. Quitting his job for a count and to tell his parents that he's gonna go make it on his own. I'm going to pursue music, mom. What's your name? King. Is it in the wizard lizards? King wizard in the lizards. [00:50:36] Speaker A: I've got to say, though, my man of the match there is definitely psychedelic porn crumpets. I've never got over that. [00:50:40] Speaker B: That's a good time. [00:50:41] Speaker A: This is the first time I heard it. It's so bad. It's brilliant. They definitely win. [00:50:45] Speaker B: There's some good and bad names on. [00:50:46] Speaker A: There, to be honest. [00:50:47] Speaker B: While we're on it, shall we move on to the overrated? [00:50:51] Speaker A: Should we move on? Okay, so I saw someone. I saw someone, actually, from. Well, I'll tell you what. I wasn't going to mention them, but it will mention him. Scruff of the net records in Manchester. There's a dude that walks around Manchester asking people what the most overrated artist is. [00:51:06] Speaker B: Oh, I haven't seen this. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And then when people answer, then he makes the mask give, like, a good song and a bad song by this artist. [00:51:11] Speaker B: But that's a bad thing, though, because if you're most overrated artists, you're not really going to be listening to this stuff. To know a good song and a. [00:51:17] Speaker A: Bad song, well, that's why I thought it was clever. But then when we were trying to pick our. Because, like, some of mine, I was like, I couldn't give you a song that's good. I'm a minor song that's bad, but. Cause I mean. Anyway, so do you wanna go with yours first or mine first? [00:51:30] Speaker B: You go first. [00:51:30] Speaker A: I'm gonna go with mine first. So my five most overrated artists. Now, again, it had to be really, like the whole point of the definition. Overrated. They have to be massively hyped. [00:51:39] Speaker B: Yes. [00:51:39] Speaker A: I'm not just gonna. [00:51:40] Speaker B: All mine are big time. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Yeah. They have to be big, big artists. I'm guessing we're gonna have some crossovers maybe. [00:51:44] Speaker B: For sure. [00:51:45] Speaker A: We're also gonna have some that I think you're gonna be annoyed at me for. But I don't really care. So my number one is Taylor Swift. [00:51:51] Speaker B: Yeah, fine. I'm fine with that. [00:51:52] Speaker A: And I'm gonna take all the beef and everyone can come at me as much as they want. I don't care about the swifties, but only because. And the thing is, this is what people don't understand with overrated. I'm not saying she's bad overrated. People are putting her on a level with Michael Jackson. [00:52:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Behave yourself. [00:52:06] Speaker A: Hopefully yourself. [00:52:07] Speaker B: Also, when you say overrated, it's not even an insult because she's the number one most highest listened to artist on earth right now. [00:52:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:15] Speaker B: Spotify and apple music. So I think it goes Taylor, then the weeknd, which is crazy. I mean, again, like, I'm found. [00:52:24] Speaker A: And I want to stress because I actually think Taylor Swift's a legend, but I don't love all of her music. It's not really my bag. [00:52:30] Speaker B: No, but people are fucking treating her. [00:52:32] Speaker A: Like she's Jesus Christ on earth. [00:52:34] Speaker B: No, like these kids knocking about these. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Days that are like Michael Jackson, who. It's all about Taylor Swift. And I just think that is sacrilege to music as an industry. [00:52:42] Speaker B: It is. But I'm fine with that. [00:52:44] Speaker A: At that point. I'm gonna say best song is exile with Bon Iver. Great tune. Worst song, shake it off. I cannot believe that is even. [00:52:51] Speaker B: Yeah, Bobbinschute. [00:52:51] Speaker A: Still. [00:52:52] Speaker B: Have you seen the family guy joke on this? [00:52:53] Speaker A: No. [00:52:54] Speaker B: He's when Peter Griffin meets Taylor Swift and he says in shake it off, you tell us to get down to this beat. But then the beat you provide is quite mild. But he goes, the beat you provide is rather mild. And he's right. It's the most mild beat. [00:53:09] Speaker A: Get down to this. And she's ripped it off as well, wasn't it? [00:53:11] Speaker B: That one was pretty. [00:53:12] Speaker A: That one was proven pretty, obviously that she'd rip someone off. [00:53:16] Speaker B: We're getting to the rip. [00:53:17] Speaker A: We won't go off on that. I know. Time. Anyway, my next one. I don't know where you're going to stand this, but I'm going to say 21 savage. [00:53:22] Speaker B: No, that's fine with me. [00:53:23] Speaker A: I think the guy is so very. [00:53:25] Speaker B: He's enormous. He was on the. Can you google for me? Double XL, freshman, 21 savage or just double XL. 21 Savage. [00:53:31] Speaker A: Because I can't remember what year he was. [00:53:33] Speaker B: He was in with Lil Yachty. Who else was in? Denzel Curry. Like a ton of them. And he's made it 2016. That's his debut. And he is a thousand times bigger than everyone else not list. And I think he's got a small handful of songs I like, but it's just 21. 21. But bro, as a. As a. [00:53:55] Speaker A: He represents hooks everything about rap music that I hate these days. [00:53:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's fair. [00:53:59] Speaker A: This guy has billions of streams and he's fucking trash. He's just trash. His best music, which I can easily say for you is everything he's done with Drake. It is that collab album they did with Drake. [00:54:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:13] Speaker A: Her loss is actually a mint album and that's why I've put. His best tune is rich flex. That is a bop. I'll lose my shit. [00:54:19] Speaker B: No, he's got some good tunes, but like you said, he's relying on. Of course he had Savage mobile. [00:54:24] Speaker A: He's got no flexibility as a rapper at all. [00:54:27] Speaker B: He's done a lot of collab albums. I forgot. Well, they called him and Metro Boomin. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:33] Speaker B: So he's been lucky enough to work with big time producers who you could put Susan Boyle on one of their beats and it would be a tune. [00:54:40] Speaker A: That's a great point. [00:54:41] Speaker B: So I think he's been looking up where he's worked with just the biggest and best producers on earth, but he's. [00:54:46] Speaker A: Got this 21 savage. This is what I mean by the perfect example. If you look at him and go, what about him? That has made him the way he is? [00:54:55] Speaker B: I'm fine with that being overrated. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Fucking bag of shit. [00:54:57] Speaker B: It's a good list type. [00:54:58] Speaker A: I put worse song bank account. But that was when I was still trying to put worse songs because I don't even fucking rate that song. Go on my next one. And this I think is going to cause stir from some people. Maybe not you guys, but bad bunny. [00:55:09] Speaker B: No, that's fair. He's a massive artist. What's his name? 66 big time. [00:55:16] Speaker A: I went through his top five tunes. Every one of them is just like. Just literally like pop. It's the most bog standard shit. Auto tune, latin pop. There's nothing to it. [00:55:29] Speaker B: Although I do like K pop with Travis Scott. He's got a couple tunes I like. But overall I agree with you. [00:55:34] Speaker A: But again, the whole point of overrated was. I'm not even saying that, like, he doesn't deserve success. He is the 20th biggest most listened to artists in the world. [00:55:41] Speaker B: I honestly, that'd be higher. But maybe if you were Latin or you were, like, puerto rican or something. But it would be. It'd be. [00:55:46] Speaker A: But still. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Then he'd be. [00:55:47] Speaker A: Then he'd be, what? Like, the Latin the weekend? Because all of his songs sound the same. [00:55:50] Speaker B: Yeah, they do. There's not. [00:55:51] Speaker A: And that's. That's my beef. Like, the guy is huge. [00:55:54] Speaker B: Good list. No, I'm not honest. I'm not playing against any of these so far. Go on. [00:55:57] Speaker A: Okay. Thank you. And my next one, this was the one I thought you might not like. I put juice world. [00:56:01] Speaker B: No, I can. I can. I can get behind that. [00:56:03] Speaker A: And more on the same vein as 21 savage. [00:56:05] Speaker B: Well, you know what? [00:56:06] Speaker A: I think people fucking worship the ground this guy worked on. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Only because. I'll put on this. He's got two 1 hour freestyles on Tim Westwood that came out just before, obviously, he died. And it's the most incredible freestyle yet for an hour straight, I think, from. He's got a couple songs I really like. But I do agree that people do worship the world. The ground he was thinking on. Now his girlfriend's selling, like, his dreads in his clothes on onlyfans, which is bananas. Can you just go on the top? [00:56:32] Speaker A: Listen. Tune for me, please. Splinter. Because that says, this proves my point. [00:56:35] Speaker B: Lucy dreams big fat tune, two and. [00:56:38] Speaker A: A half billion streams. [00:56:40] Speaker B: It's fucking not. [00:56:41] Speaker A: It's not, it's not. I honestly. [00:56:45] Speaker B: He sampled the Nas. What's it called? [00:56:51] Speaker A: I can't remember which be is. [00:56:52] Speaker B: It's nasal. That one. [00:56:54] Speaker A: That one. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Well done. But I love that song. But I agree with. I think it's just as fucking billion streams, Ollie. And he's a wordsmith, though, as a lyricist. He's cold, but I fooled me. He's a bit. He's a bit overrated because he's fuck. On his actual albums. 1 hour freestyles. And they're outstandingly impressive. [00:57:11] Speaker A: Well, I need to hear them then. [00:57:12] Speaker B: Because they're really impressive. [00:57:14] Speaker A: Oh, it's fucking shaped. Of course it's sting. I've got that wrong splinter. I mean, I got the. I've sung it right, but I can't believe I forgot that it was sting. [00:57:21] Speaker C: I was like, I knew you were right. And what you were saying. [00:57:24] Speaker A: It's because he said nars. And I was trying to think of the NASCAR, not the actual song. [00:57:27] Speaker B: Technically, he isn't sampling that. He's sampling, like, the NAS version, which is slightly different and more sped up than the sting version. But we're both right. [00:57:34] Speaker A: But I will die on that hill. Two and a half billion. And again, to stress being overrated. Being over being overrated. I'm not saying that he's not even any good. Two and a half billion. His top three songs are all over one and a half billion. [00:57:51] Speaker C: Do you think his story adds to the. How much audience he gets? Obviously side passing adds to that. [00:57:58] Speaker A: Yeah, always does. 100%. [00:58:01] Speaker B: Every time an artist dies, all of a sudden they're the top of the charts and everything. I think it adds to it. [00:58:06] Speaker A: This is still 29 monthly listeners. That's a f big number in it. Can you do me a favor and Google is it, you know, was it Lady Antebella or whatever they're called? What was that tune? [00:58:16] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:58:17] Speaker A: Really big tune. I think it's need you hear tonight or something, or quarter after one and I'm going, that's the one. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Need you now. [00:58:27] Speaker A: There's a bar. I can't believe. Just call it a bar. There's a lyric in that song that. [00:58:30] Speaker B: Is about lady a big fat tube. [00:58:31] Speaker A: That's about being big after you die. [00:58:34] Speaker B: Control f and press die. You might. [00:58:36] Speaker A: Is it really? [00:58:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I always use it to find stuff straight away. Ctrl F and you can just type in a word and then. [00:58:41] Speaker A: No way. [00:58:42] Speaker B: Oh, I use it or command f and you type in a word, it'll find it on a document. I use it every single day. [00:58:47] Speaker A: That was like watching. [00:58:49] Speaker B: And you can just press. It's not die then. Zero for zero. There's no dying it. [00:58:55] Speaker A: Right. [00:58:55] Speaker B: Cool. [00:58:55] Speaker A: That was fucking my style, wasn't it? [00:58:57] Speaker B: Thanks for that. [00:58:57] Speaker A: Anyway. So my last one. This one is not going to go down well. [00:59:01] Speaker B: Go on. [00:59:01] Speaker A: But again, I want to stress. Overrated. [00:59:05] Speaker B: All right, go on. [00:59:05] Speaker A: And it's Lil Wayne. [00:59:06] Speaker B: Oh, no, I'm fine with that. You know, he's going to bring you up for that, Kingston, when he comes on the show. I'm sorry, because he's a die hard Lil Wayne fan, but it's more the fact that I'm a big Wayne fan and I love some of his shoes. [00:59:17] Speaker A: I do. [00:59:18] Speaker B: But I do agree with you that I think is definitely a touch over it. And it's more just because he's the one who found Drake, he's the one who found cash money and it's also his style. [00:59:29] Speaker A: I mean, this young money. Oh, I forgot what they're called. [00:59:32] Speaker B: I think it's young bunny Joe. [00:59:33] Speaker A: I was listening to the other day on that note. We were bedrock. Yeah, I do remember with the whole troop on it. [00:59:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:37] Speaker A: Call me Mister Flintstone I can make your bedrock. Oh, my God. Anyway, but, yeah, and I thought Lil Wayne was the most perfect example because, again, I actually do think he's a good rapper. Cos is a good rapper. I don't think he's as good a rapper. People put him as the goat. He is some people's goat, which is mental. But I also think that every bit of trash mumble rap that has ruined music for the last few years, it's thanks to that fucking man there. [01:00:02] Speaker B: He's a bit of a mum. [01:00:03] Speaker A: Like every dickhead. [01:00:04] Speaker B: Lollipop featuring Kanye west remix, though. Behave yourself. All time tune. [01:00:08] Speaker A: All time tune. Nah, I'm sorry. Drop the world is the best tune by Lil Wayne, which, again, is technically a terrible song, but I f. Love it. [01:00:15] Speaker B: Amelia. What a classic. [01:00:16] Speaker A: I'm gonna pick the whole world and I'ma drop it on your fucking head in year seven. [01:00:20] Speaker B: Amelie was my ringtone on my la la by Sony Erikson for years. [01:00:25] Speaker A: Was that Romeli Romilly? Do you know what mine was? It was no love. Eminem and Lil Wayne. [01:00:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:31] Speaker A: Fair, big, big tune. Great song. [01:00:33] Speaker B: It's a good list, though. [01:00:34] Speaker A: But again, I just think. I'm glad you could see it because Lil Wayne is like, people are putting him on a pedestal as a goal. [01:00:40] Speaker B: It's more c time. Does that to you, though. It's been around since the 2001 or something. I'll do that. [01:00:46] Speaker A: Exactly. But, like, the genre of music that he brought along has just birthed, like, pretty much the majority of rap today. [01:00:52] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's valid. That's totally fine. [01:00:53] Speaker A: And I just don't. [01:00:54] Speaker B: Everyone's a lil this, Lil that. [01:00:55] Speaker A: Oh, that alone. [01:00:57] Speaker B: Vaguely nailed it. [01:00:58] Speaker A: The name alone. Everyone's Lil this. [01:00:59] Speaker B: Everyone's copying it now. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Little dicky, little shills. [01:01:05] Speaker B: I'm gonna change her name. IPhone to lil Lil shills. Lil shills. Lil shills. [01:01:08] Speaker A: With a little apostrophe. [01:01:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. [01:01:11] Speaker A: Well, there you go. That's my list. I thought I tried to stick, like I said, I tried to stick, like, not just people I think are fucking shit, but just people. I just don't get the high. [01:01:18] Speaker B: That's totally valid. I don't think you can have much of a problem with anyone in mind. Bar one, you'll probably go, that's unfair. And it's more gonna be like, not because you're a big fan, because you're gonna go, that's not fair on him. He doesn't deserve that. We'll see we get to it. I'm going to try and get through these because I want to get to our other segments. So, number one, Jay Z. No question. Don't give me Rolling Stone, all time. Number one, best rapper of all time, Jay Z. Stop it. [01:01:42] Speaker A: That better be the one I'm disagreeing with, because I completely disagree. [01:01:45] Speaker B: No, it's not. I think it's 100% the most overrated rapper of all time. It's only seasoned. [01:01:50] Speaker A: That man can walk in the booth and drop 50 minutes. [01:01:53] Speaker B: How many of them are off his album with Kanye? What? Eight of them from here? Empire State of mind. Yeah, fair enough. That's a big tune. [01:02:00] Speaker A: Yeah, well, sure. [01:02:01] Speaker B: Run this town. Rihanna doesn't count. It's not him on it. Yeah, but again, came out 25. [01:02:07] Speaker A: This is. Jay Z is on that borderline of, like, his biggest tunes were way before this era. [01:02:13] Speaker B: You know what? I'm trying to also take out my. My dislike for any of the people that are on my list. [01:02:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:02:18] Speaker B: Oh, I think. Because then it comes out, I go, I'm the biggest Jay Z fan ever. And eventually, when it comes out, sooner, I can go, I called it. He's the worst person ever. [01:02:25] Speaker A: I do want to do want to die on that hill, though, that the reason and all those tunes are big because all those albums were big on streaming. I get you, 444 is a fantastic album. All of the blueprint albums were massive in the nineties, and they did, like. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Magna Carta, holy Grail. [01:02:37] Speaker A: Magna Carta. Holy Grail is a great album, but all of his original albums are not gonna be big on streaming, to be fair. [01:02:42] Speaker B: No. And I love the link apart Jay Z album, even though, ironically, I wasn't fan. [01:02:47] Speaker A: But, yeah, I'll allow it because I know you don't like it. [01:02:50] Speaker B: Next one. And I've still put it as overrated because he's thinking, can you search for me, French Montana? And how many more listeners he's got? Fucking every single so bad. [01:02:58] Speaker A: You said that. [01:02:59] Speaker B: Go into his songs. He gets every man and his dog, who's an enormous name, on how many months. Listen, he's got 23 millions too many. And every single song he's on of any other artist I love, I go, this is a mint tune. Then he comes in, I go, you've ruined the tune for me. [01:03:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:03:14] Speaker B: Terrible, utter garbage. Toilet water hit. And I'm just not a fan of it whatsoever. [01:03:19] Speaker A: Dead trim as well. [01:03:20] Speaker B: Dead trim. [01:03:20] Speaker A: Absolutely dead trim. Next one's got a dead trim. [01:03:22] Speaker B: Taylor Swift. You've already spoken on it and covered everything. I did my fourth one, Katy Perry, because I think if you're making. And it's what someone I used to know and play drums for, called microwave music, which I think is a really good way because microwaves don't play music, but what they play is just. It's just it's just monotonous noise to me. And I think if you're doing Katy Perry to me is like pop paint by numbers. So it's kind of like asking chat GPT, who can write music? Go write me a song about sunshine and the parties and give it a nice melody. And that's what it is. And I get it's what you need to do because that's what makes the most money. Just garbage, but swish, swish, bish, another one bites the dust, dash it in the back. [01:04:08] Speaker A: That's what I was going to say. Katy Perry from the last five years. Couldn't agree more. Yeah, before that. Before that, when she went to. God, I honestly, I was going to put her in my list and I thought, I don't know. Did you know, you might not know the spinner, Katy Perry. Katy Perry beat Michael Jackson's record from thriller for the most number ones off the same album. Ba go on California girls. Surely not go on California girls. [01:04:31] Speaker B: Well, California girls. What, like 2010? [01:04:32] Speaker A: Yeah, she's got about 30 billion. A teenage dream. Sorry, course is teenage. No, that one. That one, yeah. Great album cover, by the way. Teenage dream. That was number one. Last Friday night was number one. California fireworks. The one that got away was et. [01:04:48] Speaker B: Was Kanye. I remember that song. [01:04:50] Speaker A: If we ever meet again. Yeah, starstruck was. [01:04:53] Speaker B: Well, she's not writing all these. [01:04:54] Speaker A: And I think if you just go back a bit. I think it was peacock. [01:04:58] Speaker B: Yeah, but was she writing all the songs? [01:05:00] Speaker C: That was the one that. Yeah, I think it is. [01:05:02] Speaker A: I mean, don't get me wrong. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Longer than thriller. Thriller's not that many. That many songs. [01:05:06] Speaker A: It's not a point, is it? No, to be fair, that the last seven were, like, remixes of California girls. [01:05:11] Speaker B: Even still, though. How many songs has thriller got? I'm gonna say 14. [01:05:15] Speaker A: Not. No, I'm gonna be, like, ten, I reckon. Ten or eleven. [01:05:19] Speaker B: Okay, let's have a look. [01:05:21] Speaker C: Sorry. [01:05:21] Speaker A: That's right. Well, that's. I don't get me wrong. I'm not saying that, like, she deserved that. That title, but, I mean, that's. Oh, this one's very different. [01:05:31] Speaker B: Go on. To click on his name. Yeah, that's what he's saying. Hold on, quick fact. [01:05:38] Speaker A: Check. I'm gonna go with eleven songs. I think you're right. Nine songs. [01:05:41] Speaker B: Oh, it was even less nine songs. She had 17. I won't allow it and look what's. Sorry. Beat it. Thriller. Human nature p y t. Oh yeah. What have we started? Every single song is a back to back to back to back. [01:05:54] Speaker C: All of these. [01:05:55] Speaker A: Well, I think so because I think I remember the number off the top of my head was around nine or ten and I've just cut lady of. [01:06:02] Speaker B: My life probably all of them. [01:06:03] Speaker A: But that did teenage dream. But to be fair because what I will say is as much as obviously it's nowhere near a touch on thriller. That is a great album. [01:06:11] Speaker B: It's got some pops, I guess I. [01:06:13] Speaker A: Mean I don't get wrong, I was twelve. All right. Oh, so there it's so now. There you go. I reckon this is going to be different on different websites, you know? Yeah, because that's the really hard. But that's the US billboard, that one. [01:06:30] Speaker B: Also we're talking an album from what, 1985? [01:06:33] Speaker A: And also it says bad not thriller. It says the album bad. [01:06:36] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's really hard to interested. [01:06:38] Speaker B: It depends either way. Either way. [01:06:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but she's like. She's talked about a fair bit but, but that's my point. I was going to put cape hair and I thought she did have a period where everything she touched was gold fair. [01:06:49] Speaker B: Well it's not the. [01:06:50] Speaker A: She's just not. She's not going with grace at all. [01:06:53] Speaker B: My last one and it's a little bit unfair. [01:06:56] Speaker A: So this is the unfair one. [01:06:57] Speaker B: This is unfair on the person because they don't deserve it because they kid. [01:07:00] Speaker A: Blue and I'll chop you a little ball. [01:07:01] Speaker B: No, it's not, it's not kid blue. It wouldn't even be a good clip. Jacob Collier. [01:07:05] Speaker A: And the reason is because I get. [01:07:08] Speaker B: It, he can understand music through his eyes, ears, nose, mouth and touch and he's the most brilliant genius. But every time I've heard a song of his he puts a new tune and go let's have a listen. This doesn't sound good to me. Apart from his cover of. What's that song that goes why do. [01:07:26] Speaker A: Oh certainly. [01:07:27] Speaker B: What's that song called? [01:07:29] Speaker A: I can't get it out my head now every time you are they want to be close to you close to you. [01:07:34] Speaker B: It's called his cover close to you. [01:07:36] Speaker A: I love every song of that song he does. [01:07:38] Speaker B: But every song of his original song I listen to, I'll go this is. [01:07:42] Speaker A: Plop like it just proves you can. [01:07:45] Speaker B: Be the best thing on earth at it. And you could explain music to aliens in the most incredible way, but your music's just pop. [01:07:55] Speaker A: Well, I don't know if I'm going to surprise you then, but I couldn't agree more. I'm actually a big anti Jacob Collier person, I've got to say. And because I think the best way I ever tried to describe Jacob Collier is that when he plays other people's songs, he's fucking phenomenal. And his original music is just music porn. And it's like. It's just the whole ideology of, like, being. [01:08:13] Speaker B: He makes music too hard. He makes music like maths, innit? [01:08:16] Speaker A: And it's just. I mean, have you heard him do best part? Daniel Caesar? [01:08:21] Speaker B: No. Any good? You don't know, babe. That's a good impression. When you hold me, it's not bad. It's weird way of singing it. [01:08:28] Speaker A: It's awful. [01:08:29] Speaker B: The melody, like, really different. [01:08:30] Speaker A: The first half of the song is just like. But then this is what he does on it. First half, the song is, like, pretty nice. And obviously, because he's got these really nice chords. Substitutions, like, they're nice. They're nice. And then it just gets a bit much. And then you're. The coffee that I need in the morning, and that just makes me want to kill myself. [01:08:46] Speaker B: It's not for me. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:08:47] Speaker B: It's a stellar. [01:08:47] Speaker A: You should hear me play the piano with it as well. Just lots of little substitutions. [01:08:51] Speaker B: The coffee that I need in the morning the sunshine and the rain when it's pouring, it's. Oh. [01:08:56] Speaker A: It's just the thing in the world. I'm not a fan of that. [01:08:58] Speaker B: Oh. [01:08:59] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:09:00] Speaker B: Get a time stamp for that and cut it. [01:09:03] Speaker A: It's the best thing in the world. Not a fan. Not a fan at all. [01:09:07] Speaker B: That's so funny. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Glad someone's watching it. But he's got. [01:09:10] Speaker B: I'll get my podcast taken off. [01:09:12] Speaker A: There's one tune he's got with Daniel Caesar on that de Jess album, whatever it's called. Volume three. That one, yeah. I think it's time along with you. That is an absolute banger. [01:09:24] Speaker C: The one that's in the half. Sharp, right? [01:09:27] Speaker A: I don't fucking know. Splinter? [01:09:29] Speaker C: No, it was a whole thing that he, like. There's only, like, two or three songs that's ever been. Oh, is it this weird key that he. [01:09:37] Speaker A: Well, then he just ruined my favorite. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Jacob probably doesn't sound good. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Well, you've ruined. [01:09:41] Speaker C: Next time you listen to it, just sit, like, with the keyboard that's going to. It will annoy you. [01:09:46] Speaker A: So the one song about Jake calling I like to just ruined because it. It, yet again had to make it. [01:09:50] Speaker B: He just doesn't make it weird. [01:09:51] Speaker A: That one's just a good song. He's not. There's a couple of, like, jazzy moments, but they're cool and it's. And they're just moments because that's the thing. This guy will just do a song of moments, but. And he's still. Yet tried to make that too difficult. So I actually really agree with you. He's a bag of shit. [01:10:04] Speaker B: Well, that's. That's my five. And I think that's a pretty solid. Solid. [01:10:08] Speaker A: I think we've pissed all over the music industry there. [01:10:10] Speaker B: We have. And none of them want to come. [01:10:12] Speaker C: Off of every good. [01:10:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:14] Speaker B: No, we gave some. We gave love to some. Yeah. [01:10:16] Speaker A: I think the only ones that get really offended are obviously the swifties. But I did say they're not listening to this. They're not listening to this for one and two. Like, I like some of the Gaga songs. What the fuck she know about cameras? No, I like some of the Taylor Swift songs, but, like, how the fuck is she as big as Michael Jackson? [01:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Microwave music. [01:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that. [01:10:32] Speaker B: Anyway, do you want to do this last segment? Let's do the segment. So we're going to do a quick segment from. Well, we'll see how quick it is because Sam's a waffle copter. [01:10:40] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:10:41] Speaker B: It's good at his job. Yeah. Oh, before you go for it, because I don't want to see him. [01:10:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. One at a time. One of time. One at a time, please, my friend. [01:10:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Go above them. So we're doing a list of. So we're going to do a quick file list of overrated. Underrated. Properly rated. [01:10:54] Speaker A: Okay, let's go. One word answers, one word disagree. We have a little moment to argue. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Yeah, go on. Okay. [01:11:00] Speaker C: Your first item is an iPhone or a mobile phone. [01:11:03] Speaker B: Massively underrated. [01:11:06] Speaker A: I was going to say properly rated. [01:11:07] Speaker B: I must say underrated because people are using it just to send pictures and do certain things that you have the more power in your pocket than what sent men to Mars meant to mention. [01:11:18] Speaker A: Well, no one's sent, allegedly, anyway. [01:11:22] Speaker B: And I think most people are not utilizing what you have in your pocket. [01:11:27] Speaker A: You've charmed me. Underrated. You've charmed. [01:11:31] Speaker B: You've charmed me. [01:11:31] Speaker A: Because that's a very good point. [01:11:32] Speaker B: I love it. Next. Bath. [01:11:34] Speaker A: Oh, a bath or the place. Bath. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Should we go free? You're free to one. Underrated. [01:11:41] Speaker A: Oh, God. I'm. [01:11:42] Speaker B: I only have a bath, like, twice a year. [01:11:44] Speaker A: Well, that's what I was going to say. [01:11:45] Speaker B: Only after, like, a storm. All after it's been freezing. [01:11:47] Speaker A: The court of a bath is brilliant. You have a bath and I'm like, I don't know. After the bath, I feel 15 minutes in. I'm like, I feel a bit grim after this, but all right, so I don't know. I'm going to say overrated. [01:11:55] Speaker B: Okay. I'm going. [01:11:56] Speaker A: Some people fucking, like, have a bath every night, though. [01:11:58] Speaker B: Well, that's crazy to me. Your water bill must be mad during a bath at night. That's bananas. [01:12:04] Speaker A: Air fryer. Three, two, one. [01:12:06] Speaker B: Underrated. [01:12:07] Speaker A: Best thing in the kitchen. [01:12:08] Speaker B: I use mine today. [01:12:09] Speaker A: Best thing in the kitchen. [01:12:10] Speaker B: I love my everything. [01:12:10] Speaker A: I put cereal in an air fryer. [01:12:12] Speaker B: Yeah, you should. Honestly, it's fantastic. [01:12:14] Speaker A: It's beautiful. [01:12:16] Speaker B: You know? What? [01:12:16] Speaker C: What cereal did you put in it? [01:12:17] Speaker A: I haven't. I said I would. Oh, you did? [01:12:20] Speaker B: It's cheap. [01:12:21] Speaker A: The air fryer basically is an AI like interface away from being the most genius products in the world. [01:12:27] Speaker B: People say it's a smaller oven. No, it isn't, because now I put hash browns in my oven compared to hash browns in my air fryer. [01:12:32] Speaker A: Different. [01:12:32] Speaker B: They're so much crispier. [01:12:33] Speaker A: Same. Same, but different. [01:12:34] Speaker B: Same, but different. Why? [01:12:37] Speaker C: You better cook a small full, like, raw chicken properly. [01:12:40] Speaker B: Yeah, of course you can. I've done it before. You spray oil on it, give it a cup of post. [01:12:44] Speaker A: It is life changing. [01:12:45] Speaker B: So much crispy. [01:12:46] Speaker A: How many things on this list are gonna be actually life changing? I doubt many. [01:12:48] Speaker C: Oh, well, let's proceed to the next. [01:12:50] Speaker B: Let's carry on. What have we got? Lady Gaga. Consider. We just spoke about it. It was so funny because you mentioned three times out of nowhere, I love it. [01:13:00] Speaker C: I was like, you've seen the list. [01:13:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:01] Speaker A: I like some of the Gaga songs. What the fuck she know about cameras? [01:13:05] Speaker B: All right, you ready? [01:13:05] Speaker A: Three, two, one. [01:13:07] Speaker C: Get your answer. [01:13:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I'm struggling. You go for yours. [01:13:11] Speaker B: Overrated to be in everything and everything. And I think her acting chops are fine. They're good. We'll see how good she's in Joker. But I think, as a concept, somewhat overrated. [01:13:22] Speaker A: Again, I'm gonna say, actually, I think you've convinced me that, because I think the thing that was confused me was Lady Gaga is a very, very talented woman, but apart from her massive tunes on her first album, I don't think her music's that good after that. Original music's just like a bit like wet lettuce. Her acting chop star is born is a great film, but realistically, probably anyone could have done it. [01:13:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:44] Speaker A: So I'm gonna say next one. Yeah, overrated. [01:13:47] Speaker B: Dua Lipa, Julipa's next. Three, two, one. Properly rated. I said properly. She's in a couple films now. She's obviously in Argyle. She was in Barbie. She was in Barbie, but only minor, which is where she should be. You're not an actor. Stay there. I think, obviously, you know, I love the. What's it called? Houdini. Big fat shoe. [01:14:09] Speaker A: Yeah, he did, I think, properly rated. [01:14:11] Speaker B: I think she's not the biggest act we've got right now in the UK and she's no scrub. I think she's properly rated as just doing well. I can't give her props. [01:14:19] Speaker A: The reason I said overrated is because I love all of the Julie platoons. The music's great, but she is actually the biggest british export of female artists right now. She's one of the biggest artists on the planet. And I just don't think she's very talented at all. I know a lot of secret little stories I'm not really supposed to tell. [01:14:39] Speaker B: Whoa. [01:14:40] Speaker A: About her. When she got spotted and all this, they basically picked a supermodel and just. [01:14:45] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I knew she was a model before. [01:14:47] Speaker A: She's like grade two cello. She couldn't sing for the first five years of her career. [01:14:51] Speaker B: She couldn't dance. [01:14:52] Speaker A: She can't write any of her tunes. They just changed. She's. I love her songs. I love her music. She's everything that I don't like about the music industry. [01:15:00] Speaker B: That's fair. [01:15:01] Speaker A: They've picked up this, like, girl who go, oh, yeah. And what's really wrong as well is that she was pretty young for them. Someone to look her and go, yeah, she's gonna be well fit. Let's just give her a music career. Like, that's why I think she's overrated. [01:15:11] Speaker C: The only reason I would disagree with overrated. [01:15:14] Speaker A: Suck your mom. Okay. [01:15:17] Speaker C: The only reason I think she's actually underrated is her impact. The live performance scene has been absolutely insane. The two or three long hour sets. [01:15:27] Speaker A: So that's a really good point. [01:15:29] Speaker C: The dancing and the visuals, I just think what she's done in the last couple years for live performance has been pretty good. [01:15:35] Speaker A: That's a really good point. And her live performance, just the whole show is amazing. But again, that kind of proves my point because it's not her. [01:15:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I did think that when she. [01:15:43] Speaker A: Isn'T her, she has the backing of fucking it whoever she wants. And that's why, as an. Sorry. That's why as a show is fucking off the charts. [01:15:50] Speaker C: Yeah, because she. [01:15:52] Speaker A: And they're also. [01:15:52] Speaker C: I just wanted to say it's a. [01:15:53] Speaker A: Good point because to be fair, especially with COVID you remember when she was doing. What was the roller skate performance? She like, a whole set on roller skates. It was like a moving shot, a one shot. This, like live video. It was sick. [01:16:02] Speaker B: It's having Julie perolliskates. I don't know what that is. [01:16:05] Speaker A: Yeah, it was really good. [01:16:06] Speaker C: She quite worried about what. [01:16:07] Speaker A: No, it's completely fine. There you go. It was. Don't start. I should have probably guessed that this. [01:16:12] Speaker C: Video actually did, like, ridiculous numbers. Yeah, yeah. [01:16:15] Speaker A: But there was a. There was in 2020 when over COVID, they did something anyway, that. But I. That if anything, that kind of proves my point, because she's not the kind of person you can just, like, plot by a piano and make a sing if she's any good. [01:16:26] Speaker B: Really quick, before we move on to the next one. She's on SNL this week, double booking. She's the host and the musical guest. So she'll do sketch, sketch, sketch, sketch, sketch, musical performance. Sketch it, sketch, second musical performance. So, I mean, it might all go tip off. That is a hefty job. Right? Keep it going. Next. [01:16:44] Speaker A: Will Smith. [01:16:47] Speaker B: I'm gonna say a scotch. Underrated. I think too many of his performances are just all time amazing. I think as an actor, I'm gonna. [01:16:56] Speaker A: Say underrated too, because I love Will Smith. [01:16:58] Speaker B: Have you ever seen seven pounds or pursuit of happiness? He just plays the dramatic roles so well. Better than anyone else, almost. [01:17:04] Speaker A: But his flexibility as an actor is completely underrated. [01:17:07] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. [01:17:08] Speaker A: Because he can be the funny guy. He can be the actual guy. He can be the serious guy. [01:17:11] Speaker B: He can. He can play it all. [01:17:12] Speaker A: And you know what? He's one of the only one. Well, not one of. That's a complete lie. He's one of the biggest ones that when it all comes out, that is a big secret. Dodgy bloke is gonna really, really upset me. [01:17:21] Speaker B: Kind of has been doing, but, yeah. Next one. [01:17:23] Speaker A: He's a top guy. [01:17:25] Speaker B: Good list places. [01:17:26] Speaker A: Better rapper than people give credit for. [01:17:27] Speaker B: Fairfax, Manchester. Properly rated, I think. [01:17:31] Speaker A: Properly underrated. [01:17:32] Speaker B: No, no, no, not by Mancunians. Listen, I think it's easy to say, but I think properly rated because I think everyone here knows it. And in the UK. But I saw an interview from. What's the watcher called? That's a good one, Jeffrey. [01:17:46] Speaker A: What's the watcher called? [01:17:47] Speaker B: Watchmen. [01:17:47] Speaker A: Oh, what's the watcher? McCall. It. [01:17:51] Speaker B: What's the watcher? McCall. What's his name? Jeffrey Wright. I think it is Jeffrey Wright, isn't it? Jeffrey Wright was talking about how he's a die hard fan of Manchester music. What's mentioning about the lyricism in Mancunians and he doesn't. Yeah, he said he hasn't been down there yet, but he said because he's such a fan of joy division, the Smiths, interesting stone roses, all these. He's like something about them as Mancunians. The way they write lyrics is so profound to him. He says, I need to get down there. [01:18:15] Speaker A: It's the culture, bro. [01:18:16] Speaker B: It's the culture. [01:18:16] Speaker A: It's the culture. [01:18:17] Speaker B: So I think properly rated, because I think it's held as they're not saying it's the greatest city on earth, whatever. My thinking is, I would say it is. [01:18:24] Speaker A: It is. [01:18:24] Speaker B: But I think it's properly rated and it's done. [01:18:26] Speaker A: Also, the Chanel show alone would tell you that Americans actually rate us because all like, what was it? What's the face? Twilight. Kirsten. [01:18:34] Speaker B: Kristen Stewart. [01:18:35] Speaker A: Kristen Stewart. She was like licking the arse of every, like, she turned up in like the most, what you would call like cliche working class clothes. It was almost offensive. Like, I've been talking about how, like, sick and how everyone's so like, level headed and it was just a bit, it was a bit mad. But anyway, going. I'm just always gonna say underrated because lobster is the place to be. This is the place that's valid. New York. Hey, I'm walking here. Well, I haven't been. [01:19:05] Speaker B: I also haven't been. I'm just gonna have to go. My perception from an outsider, I'm gonna say I feel like properly rated. [01:19:11] Speaker A: I think properly rated. [01:19:13] Speaker B: It's probably people's. If you, if you went out to. Probably went name a city in the world. [01:19:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:17] Speaker B: Most would say New York. I think it holds its weight. Probably is. And it's got rated. [01:19:21] Speaker A: It's got enough to back that as well. [01:19:23] Speaker B: It does. And I would rather go east coast New York than like La west coast. [01:19:27] Speaker A: I think history wise, culture wise, everything. It's got enough to back that it is the biggest city in the world. [01:19:31] Speaker C: I think there's so much, there's so many different things as to why the city itself. [01:19:36] Speaker A: And what I will say is, it's the only place I know that anyone who has been, has gone. It is actually as incredible as you can imagine. Have you been? Yeah. There you go. [01:19:43] Speaker B: There you go, then. [01:19:44] Speaker A: Mental. [01:19:45] Speaker C: But I went when I was a little younger and I. Ever since, I've been like, I just wish I was a bit older. I was 1415. So still quite new even then. Like, walking around like the Red Sox. Central Park, Rockefeller center. Just the sights there are just so unmatched. And most cities, like, main attractions. [01:20:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:07] Speaker C: All the things that you could do there. [01:20:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:08] Speaker C: You will never forget the view and the atmosphere. [01:20:11] Speaker A: Well, in over the lifetime, when I got k line around, I'll go and play. I'll go and see it. [01:20:14] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll go play. [01:20:15] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. We need to do a sponsored thing so people can pay for us to go to New York. [01:20:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Facts. Go on, carry on. Paris. [01:20:23] Speaker A: Parry. [01:20:24] Speaker B: Overrated. Fuck off. Massively overrated. [01:20:27] Speaker A: Fuck off. I'm saying. Properly rated. [01:20:29] Speaker B: I'm saying massively overrated. So many ticks. Nah, well, fuck out. Listen, listen, listen. Fucking always the endless TikTok I see when we go to the city of love and say, that is mad dirty. There's rats everywhere. It's gross. People are rude. That's all I've got, what people are saying. Oh, yeah. [01:20:44] Speaker A: Well, fucking TikTok police over here. That's all he's seen. I mean, it's fucking brilliant. You walk around every corner and it's like accordions in your head. [01:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:52] Speaker A: It's just like glossy electricity. What I will say is it's gray as hell. Is it very gray? [01:20:58] Speaker B: Not a lot color. Not a lot of vibrancy. [01:21:00] Speaker A: Everything does feel a little bit gray. But the Eiffel Tower is one of the only times in my life I've ever stood in one place and gone. I could stand it for hours. It just doesn't feel real at all. Yeah. Yeah. It felt the most surreal thing I've ever seen in my life. [01:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:14] Speaker A: You know, on the hour, it flashes up. It gets all lights up. [01:21:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:18] Speaker A: And we. We saw two. Because I just. We just. I was just. We just couldn't move. It was brilliant. [01:21:23] Speaker B: All right, fair. [01:21:23] Speaker A: So, yeah, you're wrong. [01:21:24] Speaker B: All right, cool. [01:21:26] Speaker A: Then again, again, all the culture can back it. Can back it. [01:21:30] Speaker B: Next one. What have we got? Activities. Ping pong. [01:21:35] Speaker A: I'm gonna say underrated. [01:21:37] Speaker B: You know, I'll say a scotch underrated as well, because you could never think. [01:21:41] Speaker A: About ping pong, but I fucking love playing it. [01:21:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Whenever there's a table out there, you go. Oh, let's have a go. Shopping table. [01:21:47] Speaker A: Tenny. [01:21:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll go. I'll go slightly. That's pretty simple. [01:21:49] Speaker A: We'll take that. [01:21:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:50] Speaker C: And I think actually, when you go into, like, a shopping mall of. There is always a ping pong table, there's never a ball, so it makes you want to play. So. [01:21:56] Speaker A: Pleasure. [01:21:56] Speaker C: And you never get to play. [01:21:58] Speaker A: 100%. [01:21:58] Speaker B: No one's bringing their own little paddles and balls. Go off. We got next. Swimming pool. Massively underrated. [01:22:04] Speaker A: I'm gonna say. Massively overrated. [01:22:05] Speaker B: No, it's not. [01:22:06] Speaker A: It's just not really my bag. I love swimming, but I will happily only touch a swimming pool once a year when I'm on holiday, if I'm on holiday. We went to a swimming park with Wills auntie the other week, and it was. It was great and everything, but, like, I could take it living. [01:22:21] Speaker B: You don't love the game, though, that's why. [01:22:24] Speaker A: What the fuck does that mean? [01:22:25] Speaker B: Water. Who swam competitively? [01:22:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I forgot. Aquaman over here. Fucking swamp for Manny or whatever. [01:22:31] Speaker B: I did two time. What did you do? A two time Manchester swimming champion. Bring the medals next week. Not alive. You know what's more annoying, right? [01:22:42] Speaker A: No joke. [01:22:42] Speaker B: I've got him in a box. I'm not joking. I have one basketball trophy won and I'm not lying. I've got at least two dozen swimming medals. I'm not joking. My mum was a swimming teacher back in the day, so she's been in the pool a lot. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Didn't know that. [01:22:55] Speaker B: Trust. [01:22:56] Speaker A: So, Max Amsterdam to be underwater in a couple of years. [01:23:01] Speaker B: There was also, on my basketball team at uni, was a guy who was whammed, and we asked him what he did. He said he never goes. Jeremy just swims couple days a week. Because you use your whole body when you swim. [01:23:10] Speaker A: Yeah, we were thinking of doing that, weren't we, Louis? [01:23:11] Speaker B: It makes total sense. Swimming is a great way to get in shape. Yeah. Massively underrated. Keep it going. [01:23:17] Speaker A: Next. [01:23:18] Speaker B: Last one. [01:23:18] Speaker A: Last one. Okay. [01:23:19] Speaker B: Go kart. Oh, by the way, we both did the same face. Oh, underrated. [01:23:29] Speaker A: Hundred percent. [01:23:29] Speaker B: Yeah. I love a go karted shower. [01:23:31] Speaker A: I'd pay any money to do it. [01:23:32] Speaker B: I responded to someone, stupid story. Literally three days ago, was at go kart and track on. Where is this? And they were talking about, it's not the one arena. That's why I messaged. I didn't recognize. [01:23:41] Speaker A: Right. [01:23:41] Speaker B: And it's somewhere in Manchester. I can't remember where. They said I was like, I love a go karting show, and I've not been for ages now. Is it Mario Kart in real life? Sure do. I love it. Yes. [01:23:51] Speaker A: Speaking of Mario Kart in real life, that has opened up in Manchester on it. [01:23:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:23:55] Speaker B: It's the question of the wise. [01:23:57] Speaker A: I have. It's really relatively overrated, though. [01:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah, because they won't be going, like, go kart speeds. Yeah. [01:24:03] Speaker A: It's like the room is literally, like, smaller than this room, so I can't. [01:24:08] Speaker B: Imagine that be great, but go kart. Underrated. So underrated. [01:24:12] Speaker A: Well, that was. That were. They were some. They were some great. [01:24:15] Speaker B: They were great ones. [01:24:18] Speaker C: It's very, like, infinite different topics. [01:24:21] Speaker B: Oh, next time, make it as rogue as you want. [01:24:24] Speaker A: Yeah, make them as controversial. Literally. [01:24:26] Speaker B: Whatever you want. Whatever you think would be interesting. Wallpaper. Taxes. [01:24:32] Speaker A: You know, taxes or taxis? [01:24:33] Speaker B: Taxes. [01:24:34] Speaker A: Oh, fuck taxes. [01:24:35] Speaker B: Whatever. You taxis as well? [01:24:37] Speaker A: Fuck taxes. No, I live on taxes. [01:24:39] Speaker B: Liz Truss, whatever you want to put. You know, it's gone viral. It makes it more awkward when there's the delay and he's already asking his question. He goes, hey, can I just tell you my book? And she's got it upside down. Oh, my God. [01:24:57] Speaker A: No wonder Alettis lasted longer than her. [01:24:59] Speaker B: Oh, that is sad that. [01:25:00] Speaker A: I feel like that is the best. They were placed to end on Liz Truss being a fucking melt. [01:25:05] Speaker B: Oh, it wasn't her fault, though. Massively underrated. [01:25:08] Speaker A: Liz Truss, you. I'm not gonna die on that hill. You could die alone. [01:25:13] Speaker B: That's fair. Right? [01:25:14] Speaker A: Should we wrap it up there, then? [01:25:16] Speaker B: I wanted to mention the newest basketball news really quickly, but. [01:25:19] Speaker A: Oh, no one cares about that. [01:25:21] Speaker B: Wrap it up. [01:25:22] Speaker A: Okay. What, did the lakers win the series or something? [01:25:26] Speaker B: No, and I actually thought it was very interesting. Go on, then, if you want me to share it. It's killing you. [01:25:32] Speaker A: It's killing you. [01:25:33] Speaker B: Well, I thought it was interesting, especially because the time basically. [01:25:36] Speaker A: Right. Thanks for listening. This has been the fillwave podcast. Thanks for. Thanks for sending in your. Sending in all your inquiries and all your bad names. We want to get you more involved next time as well. It's a bit of a surprise what we're doing next week, but, yeah, never mind. [01:25:50] Speaker B: I'll be on next week. [01:25:55] Speaker A: Make sure you head to all the streaming services to listen. Listen to the podcast in full. Head to YouTube. [01:25:59] Speaker B: Head to our socials. [01:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah, all our socials. TikTok and Instagram. TikTok. Firing out clips over the next few weeks, aren't we, mister Liam? [01:26:05] Speaker B: My goodness. I've got. [01:26:06] Speaker A: Liam's working his bollock off absolutely. Context to come in future. [01:26:10] Speaker B: Context to come in future. Unless you follow me on Instagram, and it's pretty well documented. [01:26:15] Speaker A: Anyway, that's us. Thank you very much. Good night. Welcome to feel weight podcast.

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