Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Welcome to the Fillware podcast. We're back in the studio again after holiday episode. And we're back again with another fantastic guest.
[00:00:18] Speaker B: Yes, we are.
[00:00:19] Speaker A: Sam, take it away, please.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: Right then. This is a bit of a. It's become a bit of a significant feature, this. We're trying to out our emphatic intros.
[00:00:27] Speaker C: My ego is waiting.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: It's gonna get chanced.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. You're not gonna be able to get out the door. So our guest today is a true creative force. Look at that. That's already a good start, isn't it?
[00:00:37] Speaker C: Good start.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: Shaking up the worlds of both music and fashion. Wow.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:00:42] Speaker C: Keep going.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Look at that. Across Europe is what I meant to say. Across Europe.
[00:00:46] Speaker C: Oh, wow. Yep. Not wrong.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: She's modeled for Cheetos.
[00:00:51] Speaker C: True.
[00:00:52] Speaker B: I really wanted to just say that one, to be honest.
[00:00:53] Speaker C: Do you know what? That is the highlight of my cv, so I'm really glad you're included.
[00:00:58] Speaker B: She's earned as a musician over 780,000 streams. I bet you didn't even know that.
[00:01:03] Speaker C: I didn't know that.
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Yes. I did the maths. And you scored in the top ten of BBC introducing's best songs of 2022.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: Remember that? Because we performed it together.
[00:01:14] Speaker C: We did. We did.
[00:01:16] Speaker B: On the radio waves.
[00:01:17] Speaker C: Yes, we did.
[00:01:18] Speaker B: She's also a brand ambassador for the likes of Savage Fenty. We have an actual rihanna ambassador over in the room. This is royalty.
[00:01:25] Speaker A: We'll take it.
[00:01:26] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:01:27] Speaker B: Right? She was on the panel of the RNCM Creative Innovators Award.
[00:01:31] Speaker C: True.
[00:01:31] Speaker B: Just wait to say. Does that really make me laugh? Oh, thanks.
And she works as a creative brand director for the likes of before July, South street and Mercy.
[00:01:45] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh.
[00:01:45] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:01:46] Speaker C: And I better add Wonderdoll.
[00:01:47] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And wonder doll. And soon to be ambassador for feel weird clothes.
[00:01:53] Speaker C: We'll take it.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: How do I say that?
[00:01:55] Speaker B: Ladies and gentlemen, Lois Ray Smith.
[00:01:58] Speaker C: Thank you so much, guys.
[00:01:59] Speaker A: Boyfriend and Mike. Give her a clap.
[00:02:00] Speaker C: I'll actually come here again. I think I should.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Great intro.
[00:02:03] Speaker C: I feel. I'm blushing. I'm actually blushing. That was a very good intro.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: And the thing is, there's so much more to say.
[00:02:10] Speaker C: There is. But before we start, I just want to say, guys, like, I think what you're doing here is amazing and I'm really, really happy to be.
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Tell us all about it.
[00:02:17] Speaker C: You guys are just unreal. What you guys do here is so special and you build, like, such a community. I just get out the way. Before we start ripping each other, give us our flowers. I just want to say, like, you're building something amazing, and I'm really, really happy to be here. So thanks for having me. Thank you for having me.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: You're very welcome.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: Very welcome. I'm now feeling a little bit guilty for belittling your modeling career to Cheetos.
[00:02:37] Speaker A: Well, we're going to cover a lot of that today.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: We've certainly got too much smoke up your ass.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: You see, we've got a lot of great topics. We're covering music and so on, so forth.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: Do you want to hit us with the first one?
[00:02:46] Speaker A: We'll start us off the first one. So.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: Oh, hang on.
[00:02:48] Speaker A: Go on.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: We don't want to look over.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Split.
[00:02:50] Speaker D: He sat in the spot.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: I wasn't going to forget.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: I wasn't going to forget.
I just want to make a point.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: I want to make a point that splinter had his moment in the sun. He had his flowers.
[00:03:00] Speaker A: He'll return to.
[00:03:01] Speaker B: We had a Graham Norton esque episode where he interviewed us to. And he was.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: Which I'm sure you listen to and watch.
[00:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Which I'm sure you watch religiously. Anyway, he's now back in the shadows, but you can hear his sultry vocal cords.
[00:03:11] Speaker D: Clearly a result of my hosting of the episode has resorted to me sitting in the dark in the corner.
[00:03:16] Speaker B: Unfortunately, until you've modeled for Cheetos, you don't go on the camera. It's not that hard. It's quite simple, really.
[00:03:22] Speaker D: That's fair enough. Well, I do have your starting question.
[00:03:25] Speaker B: Oh, yes.
[00:03:25] Speaker D: And I'm now just bringing it up on the screen. If you could time travel and witness any event in history, what would it be?
[00:03:31] Speaker C: Oh, my.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: Easy questions.
[00:03:33] Speaker A: Lemon squeezy.
[00:03:35] Speaker D: Go on, then.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: To not make basketball related.
No, it's not. I didn't even think of that.
[00:03:40] Speaker D: Conspiracy related, 100%.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: Explain to us, correct the building of the pyramids, obviously.
[00:03:44] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: They're moving 50 to 100 ton rocks.
[00:03:48] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:03:49] Speaker A: We're just people.
[00:03:50] Speaker C: Do you know what, like, me and my boyfriend were actually talking about this. Is it aliens? Is it intelligent life? Is it giants?
[00:03:55] Speaker A: Is it.
[00:03:56] Speaker B: Delete all of those notes. We're going into this for the next.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: We did a conspiracy episode for context. We did two conspiracy episodes back to back, which are biggest episodes to date now. And we covered the likes of this.
[00:04:08] Speaker B: Stuff, of what we wanted to do.
[00:04:09] Speaker A: But. Yeah, really a slither of it. Yeah, but that's. That's the first thing came to mind before sporting event, before anything significant.
You want to see Martin Luther King do his eye of a dream speech?
[00:04:19] Speaker B: Fuck that.
[00:04:20] Speaker A: No, I don't. I need to see what they did and how they built him.
[00:04:23] Speaker B: He's a human being that said words. Well, we've all seen it before. Have you seen normal? Have you seen slaves lift, like, sucks granite blocks from.
[00:04:31] Speaker C: How. How did they do that, do you think? Like, we could just tap into a different frequency at that time?
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Who knows?
I'm fresh off a couple of really mind boggling episodes of Joe Rogan I've been listening to as well.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: Okay, we don't need to go that.
[00:04:47] Speaker A: We don't need to go there because I wanted the longest segment, this, because we would do an hour on this and how they did it.
[00:04:51] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:04:51] Speaker A: One of you, please go on.
[00:04:53] Speaker B: So I'm gonna. We've almost swapped there. Cause it's me that watches.
[00:04:55] Speaker A: Oh, you're gonna go sporting events.
[00:04:56] Speaker B: I'm gonna say. I've got to say, being in the Nou camp of the treble season when United won the Champions League, what year is that? 99.
[00:05:03] Speaker D: Boring.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Oh, so when you were a bambino, I was one.
[00:05:06] Speaker C: Oh, absolutely.
[00:05:08] Speaker B: But I've got, like, mates whose dads were there. And the story I heard once of a mate's dad who would, like. So for context, equalize last minute, and they thought it was going to go extra time, and then they won at the last minute. Okay, so people had not even finished losing their shit after the first goal. And my mate's dad, like, jumped up and celebrated and fell, like, five fucking rows down, smashed all his face up, and then got up. They scored again. And he did it again.
[00:05:32] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: How quickly did he score?
[00:05:33] Speaker C: After violence?
[00:05:34] Speaker B: Like, less than a minute.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: Who was the MVP?
[00:05:37] Speaker B: It was the MVP.
[00:05:39] Speaker A: Who's the MVP at the time? Baskant?
[00:05:40] Speaker B: No, I think, actually, I don't know who it was.
[00:05:43] Speaker D: You know who it was? It was Ollie.
[00:05:45] Speaker A: So shot.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: Yeah, but he wasn't. He wouldn't got man of the match for why. Probably would have.
[00:05:49] Speaker A: Probably did.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: But realistically, it was Beckham. Anyway, Lloyd, where would you go at.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Any time in history? What would you like to witness?
[00:05:57] Speaker C: I don't know if. Have you already asked this question to other people?
[00:06:00] Speaker A: No, no.
[00:06:00] Speaker C: I think I would say, like, the dawn of time.
[00:06:03] Speaker A: Oh, you're going way back.
[00:06:04] Speaker C: I'm going back to the beginning because I just want to know what happened. Like the pyramids, the dinosaurs, the Bible.
[00:06:11] Speaker A: Sure. You're going way, way back.
[00:06:12] Speaker C: Like, I just want to figure it out. Nobody knows.
[00:06:15] Speaker B: Nobody knows.
[00:06:16] Speaker C: I don't want to get too religious or political, but, like, it's a good one.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: You want that much comfort, it would just be you and loads of bacteria.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: How would you know that, though? Cause, like, where are you even?
[00:06:26] Speaker C: Can you witness that? Can you witness that?
[00:06:28] Speaker A: We're getting really.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: She's just, like, floating in the oblivion and just like, bang.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: Neil degrasse Tyson on the.
[00:06:33] Speaker C: But maybe, like, slowly so I can actually see what happened. I mean, I don't want it to bang. I don't want a big bang.
I won't sat bite.
[00:06:41] Speaker B: It'd be like Adam Sandler film, where he's got the remote.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: Click.
[00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:44] Speaker A: Click. Yeah. Great film.
[00:06:44] Speaker B: And you'd have to just. Slow mo.
[00:06:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:06:46] Speaker B: Just rewind. Yeah. That's what's not right here.
[00:06:48] Speaker C: Yeah. I just want to know.
[00:06:50] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: That was three very.
[00:06:52] Speaker C: I probably would have actually said this. Pyramids.
[00:06:54] Speaker B: I'm not saying I really top the pyramids. So I went straight for the treble season.
[00:06:56] Speaker A: Pyramids is a great one, but it's.
[00:06:58] Speaker C: A bit of a contrast.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: Fucking stupid.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Now, some great answers, but to get us into our first segment. Thank you, Splinter, for that.
[00:07:05] Speaker D: You're welcome. Thank you, Graham.
[00:07:06] Speaker C: Yes, thank you.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: It was a great question. Always.
[00:07:09] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: Desert Island Discs is a segment we've been doing for every guest we've had on so far that's been a musician or involved in music. So it means you're on an island, you have three albums to listen to the rest of your life.
[00:07:20] Speaker B: And albums is the important thing, because people have got confused before.
[00:07:23] Speaker A: Yes. We've had people come up with singles and we're like, you've already done it.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: You've wasted it. You've got three songs. You could have had 30.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: You could have three albums.
[00:07:29] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: Rest of time, you know. Oh, look at this.
[00:07:33] Speaker C: You know what's wild? I don't know if I know the name. I know the albums, but do I know the names of them?
[00:07:37] Speaker A: Do you know the artist? And we can. We can play.
[00:07:39] Speaker C: So I think Noah, Cyrus. I think the album's called the end.
[00:07:42] Speaker B: Of everything or pressure.
[00:07:45] Speaker C: It could be. It might not be.
[00:07:50] Speaker A: The context of Spotify. We're pulling up Spotify.
[00:07:54] Speaker B: The context for Spotify.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: We'll pull up.
Do you see it there?
[00:07:57] Speaker C: I think it's that one with the orange.
[00:07:59] Speaker A: The end of. Oh, it is the end of 2020.
[00:08:02] Speaker C: I absolutely love that.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: Do you know your favorite album?
[00:08:04] Speaker C: I do. I love that album.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: Eight songs.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: Oh, I've heard July. July's a July.
[00:08:07] Speaker C: Yeah. What's it.
[00:08:09] Speaker A: About that album.
[00:08:10] Speaker C: Do you know what? There's a couple of albums and, like, eps of hers that I just really love. And I would say, like, that I probably should mention them both at the same time. Like, dolly Parton is a huge inspiration for me. So I feel like Noah's kind of, like, obviously she's been, like, heavily influenced and I think.
[00:08:26] Speaker B: And she's the edgier Mylean.
[00:08:27] Speaker C: Let's go for, like, dolly Parton. The greatest hits. Can I do that or was that cheating?
So I think it's basically because, like, I'm not, like, the most amazing singer, but I love playing, like, piano and I. No, no. But I'm not. Basically. What I'm trying to say is I'm not, like, a Whitney or something. Do you know what I mean? And especially, like, where we came from, there was a ton of whitneys. Like, our music school kind of valid.
But, like, I think, like, people like Noah, Cyrus, especially Dolly Parton, like, if you think of, like, I will always love you and, like, the way that Whitney sang that, but Dolly Parton, like, kind did it in her own way, just with her guitar. And it was just equally as beautiful in a different way. And I feel like Dolly and Noah helped me to see that. Like, it's all right to just do your thing. Do you know what I mean? Especially as a singer songwriter, you've not got to, like, belt it out or, like, be some kind of extraordinaire. I mean, it's great if you are, but do you know what I mean? I think that's why I like those two so much. And obviously they're quite similar, like, little country twang and, like, guitar vocal love.
[00:09:26] Speaker B: This is it for a bit of context for our artists over here. You've been a very successful kind of r and B artist software, haven't you? Yeah, but a little teaser.
[00:09:35] Speaker C: Well, actually, like, probably what a lot of people don't know is that, like, I actually did write country music first. And then when I kind of, like, I met my producer and he was like, what kind of music do you listen to? And it was all r and b. Yeah. So he was like. Because I was actually gonna say that my third album would be scissor, you know, scissors album with snooze on and all that. I absolutely love every single track of the album, but, like, I was only listening to r and b at the time, so I thought it was just natural for me to do that. And, like, my producer's an amazing r and b, like, producer.
[00:10:09] Speaker B: So, like, and you write what you're surrounded by as well.
[00:10:11] Speaker C: Exactly. But I think, like, now I'm kind of, like, going full circle back to a bit more of, like, a singer songwriter vibe. Like, I've been writing a lot lately just at the piano or guitar, and it's like, also what I love about. I know this is a massive album. What I love about this album is it's not really r and b, is it? There's just a bit of everything on there and that's so brave as well. I feel like all three of those artists are like, do you know what? I'm just going to do what I do. And unapologetically, that's what I love about all of those guys, but, yeah, big.
[00:10:39] Speaker B: Boss energy, those three as well.
[00:10:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: And to be fair, for just being. If we're just talking literal for your three discs, it's a shitload of songs you've managed to squeeze in there as well.
[00:10:47] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, which.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: I mean, it's the rest of your life, so you're gonna need them.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: R and B pop, country. Nice mixed bag. You can listen to that for the rest of your life.
[00:10:55] Speaker C: Definitely.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: Solid list.
[00:10:56] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:10:57] Speaker B: I could listen to scissor forever, to be fair.
[00:10:58] Speaker C: Yeah. Love her. I feel like we've definitely done a scissor.
[00:11:02] Speaker B: We've done good days before.
[00:11:03] Speaker C: Yeah, we have.
[00:11:04] Speaker A: We've done a couple collabs. Yeah.
No digital footage of this.
[00:11:08] Speaker B: There might be.
[00:11:09] Speaker C: I think there might be.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: What was the event called, lois?
[00:11:12] Speaker C: It was. It was fair. It was for one extra, wasn't it? Yeah, it was like.
Have you got some photos from your gig? Oh, slaps then. Yeah, it was. Wow. Was it like 2021? No, 2022.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: I think it was late 22 or it was early 23.
[00:11:33] Speaker C: Really? It feels like a long time ago. Longer than that. Yeah, it does, but, yeah, it was like. It was DJ Ace, who's always supported me on one extra, and I think he's moved now. I think he's moved to kiss. If I'm right.
[00:11:46] Speaker B: That's pretty big news. He's like a champion.
[00:11:48] Speaker C: Yeah, he is like a huge. Like, he literally changed my life. Like, when I started out in music, like, nobody would listen to my stuff. And then I sent it. I actually sent it to, like a hundred different radio stations and, like, one got back to me and it was like. It was actually Ace's pa who got back to me at the time. Now she's, like, doing amazing things. She's like an amazing producer. She does, like introducing on one extra now. No, cool.
But, yeah, so I was emailing everyone from community stations all the way up to radio one, and one person got back to me. It just happened to be Ace, and he's since supported me so much.
[00:12:25] Speaker B: That's cool. That all of the stations that are supposed to support grassroots music just weren't. Radio one.
[00:12:31] Speaker C: Extra were like, yeah, he's supported so many up and coming talents. He's really fresh on the pulse with r and b. Like, obviously, like, we did. He toured and we did his tour. Yeah, the Manchester show. So, yeah, that was. That was fun. We had a good time. Yeah.
[00:12:48] Speaker B: So, I mean, this is the thing. So now you're changing into your transitioning.
[00:12:52] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:12:52] Speaker B: Into your country music, back to your roots.
[00:12:55] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: I mean, we'll get a little taste for that later in the live performance.
[00:12:57] Speaker A: We certainly will.
Well, while we're keeping off the music and going into your fashion side of it, we're certainly going to go through it. Splinter's gonna pull up some items that we've got from some viral fashion trends.
[00:13:10] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: And I want to get a couple of words on your thoughts on them. Do you love it? Do you hate it?
[00:13:14] Speaker B: Fresh, hot takes.
[00:13:15] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:13:16] Speaker B: So don't think too much.
[00:13:17] Speaker C: I'll say love it or hate it, and then I'll give you a word.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: I'm gonna guess it's gonna be a. Mostly haters.
[00:13:22] Speaker C: Oh, really?
[00:13:22] Speaker A: None of these are. None of these are big hitters, but, yeah, let's get on big screen.
[00:13:25] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: Yeah, zoom that right in.
[00:13:27] Speaker C: Yeah. Because I am a very blind.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: Firstly, we got the pea stained jeans, luxury brand Jordan Luca for $800. What are you thought?
[00:13:34] Speaker C: Hate it. Gross.
[00:13:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:13:37] Speaker C: Done.
[00:13:37] Speaker B: What, you don't love the jeans that look like someone's pissed this pants?
[00:13:39] Speaker C: No.
[00:13:40] Speaker A: You don't have the high fashion pasty pants jeans.
[00:13:42] Speaker C: Hey.
[00:13:42] Speaker B: Okay, for context, then, like, 800 quid.
[00:13:44] Speaker C: I think that's a bar, guys. You know, you doing this, I could lose my job. Cause if I say, like.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: That's a good point.
[00:13:49] Speaker C: Hate it.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: No one pull up any of the brands at lowest.
[00:13:51] Speaker C: Yeah. If I say hate it, and then I go into work and they're like, oh, my God. That was revolutionary. Like, suck.
[00:13:56] Speaker A: That's a very good point. But to be honest, with the stuff we have on this list, there's gonna be very little. You're gonna go, this is a big deal for me to say. I don't like it, to be honest. Okay, but splendor, please pull up the next one.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Oh, I saw these.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: Yeah, these are bad. This is the Nordstrom mud jeans, $425. What do you think? To walk around like you've been slid down a hill.
[00:14:17] Speaker C: I actually like these. You love it. And my word is controversial, because I know you guys don't, but I love it.
[00:14:24] Speaker B: I would say if it wasn't $25 worth.
[00:14:27] Speaker A: Love it.
[00:14:28] Speaker C: Um. Yeah.
[00:14:29] Speaker A: Cause even the cut, though, it's not even. Look at the.
[00:14:32] Speaker C: Not even stand on what I'm saying now.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: I respect that, to be fair. Cause this. If it wasn't actual mud. I quite like the color. I mean, fucking. I look at the jeans I'm wearing, like, they're a bit of a nice.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: No, but yours are a lot nicer.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: I like the color, to be fair.
[00:14:43] Speaker C: I think, to be honest. Like, that image doesn't inspire me. Like, those shoes and the top, like, gross. And the little label, like, not loving it, but, like, I think those.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: So the fit. The fit's wrong, then, is what I think.
[00:14:56] Speaker C: Yeah. If that was worn by the right person in the right context, on the right shoe, I think it's gonna be out. You know, even if there was, like, mud on the floor. And it's like a. Like. It's like a kind of symbolic thing, like rising from the earth or being connected to the earth. I kind of, like. I kind of rate it.
[00:15:10] Speaker B: That's why she gets paid the big bucks.
[00:15:12] Speaker A: That's why she knows what she.
[00:15:13] Speaker B: Cause I looked at that and went, this man's been rolling around in dog muck.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:15:16] Speaker C: No, I like that.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: Literal poo on his knees, and he's fucking 500 quiddin horrible. And you're right, though. The shoes really don't start well. No trashy neck.
[00:15:26] Speaker C: This is why I have a job, because it's all about context. Like, if that was shown in a different. I don't know if you guys seen the Balenciaga show where they had all the mud on the ground.
[00:15:35] Speaker B: Yes, I did see that.
[00:15:35] Speaker C: Like, you know, if that was. If somebody was walking in a Balenciaga show with those on it, it would make more sense.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: It does look like a next home shoot, but the model fell over before.
[00:15:45] Speaker A: We just got no time. Just get.
[00:15:46] Speaker C: Yeah, just carry on.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Yeah, next one, please.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: Fucking mud's really like, the one on his arse cheek there. That's shiny.
Do you remember that video, that northern bloke where his dog pulled him over in the mud? And the videos, that's when he goes, don't even fucking talk to me. That's all I'm seeing. His jeans look like that. I think he went and flogged him for 500 quid after it.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: Banana stuff, but go on. Next one, please.
[00:16:08] Speaker B: Split me. Hit me.
[00:16:11] Speaker A: It's the balenciaga bag. That was $2,000, which strikingly resembled the Ikea one pound carrier bag.
[00:16:18] Speaker D: I originally thought it was.
[00:16:19] Speaker B: I did. I thought it was a back to front photo.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: It really looks to be confused and I hate to see it. So because of the yellow one, the straps, I kind of like. I prefer.
[00:16:27] Speaker C: Yeah, I prefer the Ikea one, you.
[00:16:29] Speaker A: Know, and I'm just this color. I really. I'm a big fan of the colour.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: Yeah, me too.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: The material this size, fair. And to go. What lamp have you got in that set of drawers? Is in the side. That bag.
[00:16:40] Speaker B: So is that a win or a loss for you, that for $2,000?
[00:16:43] Speaker C: The bag on the right is. I hate it, but the bag on the left is a love it. I've got friends with that. You know, the mini bag.
[00:16:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:50] Speaker C: And I actually rate it.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: It's because Ikea are literally one of the goats for branding, I think.
[00:16:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: There's a reason why Virgil abloh was like, yeah, digital collection.
[00:16:57] Speaker C: Yes. I really wanted the clock and, like, who doesn't love a swedish meatball? Oh, who doesn't love a swedish meatball?
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Yes, of course.
[00:17:05] Speaker C: So, yeah, that's kind of like a 50 50 for me.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah. All right.
[00:17:09] Speaker B: Price is important as well, isn't it?
[00:17:10] Speaker A: Prizes where I've got it, two fucking.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: I mean, 2000.
[00:17:13] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Crazy jinx.
[00:17:15] Speaker D: That's just Jen's Mary Poppins, isn't it? That's just.
[00:17:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:19] Speaker C: I don't even feel like that's got a zip. It doesn't strike me as the kind of bag that's got a zip.
[00:17:24] Speaker A: I think they've really cheaped out if they haven't even bothered to put a zip in it, though, because if that's.
[00:17:27] Speaker C: An open bag, it looks like it's got one. And that's important for me if I'm paying 2000 pounds.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:32] Speaker C: I don't want my stuff fully.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: I don't want to have to put my own zip in it.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Next one we got Margiela's pre destroyed sneakers. 1425, $1,425 for these margielas.
This one, I feel like, is going to be hard for you to.
[00:17:46] Speaker C: Yeah, that is really hard because they're already beat. Why are you laughing?
[00:17:50] Speaker A: Do you think they're so terrible, the shoes themselves? As someone who's a big sneaker fan, the shoes aren't even cool. If it was at least a nice silhouette, because they look very much like 2000 supras to me. And they just look like they've been ran for a cheeseburger.
[00:18:07] Speaker B: I'll tell you what. Cause you look like you're thinking. I completely agree with Liam, but what I will say is the beat up look isn't what concerns me because is it the shade? Silhouette?
[00:18:16] Speaker A: Yeah, the silhouettes. The.
[00:18:17] Speaker B: I mean, like, even your. Your. Is it the Chinatown shoes?
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Chinatown, yeah.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: Like, and. And these other. What are the ones where they. You can, like, scratch the fabric off?
[00:18:26] Speaker A: No, they did an air force one.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: For Air Force one. But anyway, like, the beat up look on a good silhouette, I think it's quite cool.
[00:18:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:18:31] Speaker A: Look at, literally the shoes I'm wearing. My 95s are falling apart.
[00:18:34] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's it.
[00:18:36] Speaker A: Yeah, because they're falling apart. They still kind of look cool, but that.
[00:18:39] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I think. You know what? I think it's the shape for me, that it's a hater.
[00:18:43] Speaker B: The problem looks like a very. Shit, Jordan.
[00:18:45] Speaker C: Hate it. Distressed. That's my word. Yeah, I'm distressed looking, but, yeah, I am distressed.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: Oh, that was a. We have to go to the next one. That's fantastic.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah. So these are Gucci's $500 upside down glasses. They are what they say in the tin. They're upside down. Yeah.
[00:18:59] Speaker C: You know what?
[00:18:59] Speaker B: Give them a flip certainty.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: Give it a flip so you can see it around the right way.
Yeah.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Lowest thoughts is giving Edna mode.
[00:19:08] Speaker A: They are very Edna mode.
[00:19:09] Speaker C: Zara love it for me.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: I can't get it back because I.
[00:19:12] Speaker C: Can see, but it's adding to the. You know what I mean? Of the, like, do you know what I mean? The perspective of it.
[00:19:19] Speaker A: If you saw. What job could you possibly do where you're going to take if your GP was wearing these?
[00:19:24] Speaker C: You go, no, you're not. That's not where I would envision placing them. But, like, I think you could do a really cool shoot with those. Like, you know, even if you were, like, lay on the floor and it was, like, upside down or playing with perspectives.
[00:19:35] Speaker A: That's a good idea.
[00:19:36] Speaker C: I think, like, this is really cool play of perspectives.
Obviously, you're not going to put them on if you're like a receptionist at.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: The GP's office or just if you're gonna see the photo. Just a classic daughter of a victorian.
[00:19:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Again, it's like time and a place and it's. You know what?
[00:19:51] Speaker B: You've educated me there, Lois, because I actually don't.
[00:19:54] Speaker C: That looks crazy. That looks so cool. Like, imagine.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:59] Speaker C: Honestly, it would be amazing.
[00:20:01] Speaker B: It's what she's wearing that I don't like about that.
[00:20:03] Speaker C: It's her. So. Love the glasses. Hate her.
[00:20:08] Speaker B: It's a dead trim as well, isn't it? Receptionist room receptionist at a northern quarter victorian. Receptionist.
[00:20:14] Speaker C: That's her.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:15] Speaker B: She has coffee on Oxford. On Oldham street.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:18] Speaker C: I think that's really, like, a big look. And I'm.
[00:20:21] Speaker B: I'm a love it way of saying that she looks like a victorian slave. Okay.
[00:20:26] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: Next one. Another one. Again, extreme one. Balenciaga.
[00:20:30] Speaker C: I mean, I feel like I already referenced this, so I'm gonna have to say love it.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: You can say love it for it. But, Sam, you've. You've not got any ties. You can see what you think to give you context. 1850. These cost $1,850.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Okay. I'm glad you said that, because if you'd have shown me this before showing me the other distressed shoe, I'd say they look like a bag of shit.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Yeah, these are the.
[00:20:51] Speaker B: But they're way better than them. Yeah, way better than them.
[00:20:54] Speaker C: They are.
[00:20:54] Speaker B: I love the converse esque, like, chuck Taylor silhouette.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: They literally came right off.
[00:20:59] Speaker B: And I actually quite like the spray paint effect and love. Little cheesy little twist in here. Behind Lois's head is an air force one eye spray paint. Feel. Weird stuff on.
[00:21:10] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:21:10] Speaker B: I actually really like that look. But it's the pistain for me that I'm not a fan of.
[00:21:14] Speaker A: No, it doesn't look. It looks like these would be, like, the house fire ones. Cause that's what they. Other ones are.
[00:21:19] Speaker B: You planned that.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: That's funny that I just thought of it now because they literally look like they've just been. Someone has been killed in them shoes in a house fire.
[00:21:26] Speaker B: You know, the question, if your house is burning down, what would you rescue? My man said he's Chuck Taylor's, didn't he?
[00:21:31] Speaker A: He said he's Chuck Taylor's Chuck Taylor.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Because he went back in for his converse and they didn't make it.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: No, he didn't make it, but his shoes barely did push him, too.
[00:21:38] Speaker C: Have you guys seen that episode of the in betweeners where.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:21:40] Speaker C: Somebody borrows the shoes, they go to the club.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: Oh, they did.
[00:21:46] Speaker C: One of them. It was Simon.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: That is kind of giving with a guy in the street.
[00:21:51] Speaker B: And then he went and sold them for 1800 quid.
[00:21:52] Speaker C: And Carly's like, ew, what's that smell?
[00:21:56] Speaker A: The smell's following us.
That's a great.
[00:21:58] Speaker B: That's a top tier reference as well.
[00:22:00] Speaker C: Yes. But, yeah, love.
[00:22:03] Speaker A: That's our. That's. That's the. The conclusion of that.
[00:22:06] Speaker C: I feel like I loved most of it.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: I could do that for an hour.
[00:22:08] Speaker D: Have you got a favorite? Anyone got a specific favorite? I actually think these are really cool.
[00:22:12] Speaker A: I'm gonna go with the glasses.
[00:22:13] Speaker B: If they were a little bit less distressed. Dare I say it?
[00:22:16] Speaker D: It's just. I guess it's this bit, isn't it? In the middle?
[00:22:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:19] Speaker A: The rest.
[00:22:20] Speaker D: This shoe, I think the top shoe looks really.
[00:22:22] Speaker A: But also what.
[00:22:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:22:23] Speaker A: How many wears are you getting out of these, though?
[00:22:25] Speaker C: Just as many as you want. Because they're already like.
[00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's what means that before.
[00:22:29] Speaker D: They're not actually special occasion, though, aren't they? That's what I mean. They get damaged. They're so special occasion.
[00:22:34] Speaker B: That's like taking your missus to prom kind of. Kind of shoe, isn't it just this.
[00:22:37] Speaker D: Is this effect on the bottom of the shoe just.
[00:22:39] Speaker C: It's even like maybe a stage shoe or like a press shot shoe.
[00:22:43] Speaker B: What. You know what I do respect, though, is that they've committed to it, because seeing the vans, the. I think it's. I can't remember.
[00:22:49] Speaker A: Mischief you talk about. Yeah, the wavy ones.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: No, no, no. So the beat up ones, they've released, and they're literally just muddy vans. There's no. No different at all.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: Would you pull up the mischief vans, please? You spell it without the vowels in it.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: The mischief ones. The wavy ones.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: The wavy ones. They're the one mischief I love as a brand. And I would absolutely adore to have anyone who's from the creative department, from mischief on the podcast, because they keep ripping off very famous shoe and clove like, iconic designs and then putting their terrible twist on it and making it weird. So they've been.
[00:23:20] Speaker B: Is it not an actual.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: No, it's not. They've been sued by literally every company do this, but then they just go, we'll drop it from being released. So it's more for clicks. But I absolutely love it. So they did this very famous, like, got the.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: This is the secret equivalent of Morris sings and sings breeze.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: It is exactly that.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: I absolutely changed the name.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: They did the same with an air force one. They've done it with the Jordan one. They're just toe in the line of dying to be.
[00:23:45] Speaker B: That's a big polo getting tiger.
[00:23:46] Speaker A: It is. I think because they've got enough. They've got enough.
What's it called? Credibility to do this now where they can do silly versions of shoes and people go, hey, that's supposed to be an air force one. They go, no, it isn't.
[00:24:00] Speaker B: It's called the normal Copeland mischief logo, where it would normally say air force.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: Yeah. But they keep doing this and I can't think of any other examples, annoyingly, right now, but they keep ripping off.
[00:24:08] Speaker C: I think that's so cool. I think they should keep their artistic license for that because it's just. Yeah, it says a lot.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: Parody effect is absolutely the way they do it, isn't it?
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Is. They'll make a really limited short supply of them. Mischievous are the ones that did the, you know, the big red boots.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:24:25] Speaker C: Inflatable.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: They're sick.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: Which they were probably their most famous.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: If he's just. Because more than your, like, Christie's bollock.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:33] Speaker B: I would literally have one here that.
[00:24:35] Speaker A: Was free, though, since.
But this, I think, is a good example because this is the first time they didn't rip off anything other than what, playmobil or the Lego.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: I was going to say, actually, like, what about when they have to make their own thing? But I didn't realize that was them.
[00:24:51] Speaker A: So I think their whole play is so clever because they make something outrageous knowing they're going to get sued and go, well, we won't mass release it, but we've made 100 pairs, so we'll obviously sell these to the highest bidders. Is that one?
[00:25:04] Speaker B: Is that.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a heel. It's a touch at the one underneath that you can see that's mad.
[00:25:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I love that.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: Wear that around.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: That's kind of cool, isn't it?
[00:25:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: So it's an offshoot, but I think the mischief are great. And I would love to have someone on the podcast to talk about them because they make some ludicrous stuff. But it works.
[00:25:22] Speaker C: Yeah, they just kind of, like, take a design and fuck it up a bit. And it's like.
[00:25:27] Speaker B: That's why I do by accident.
Oh, they. The ones that did the Adidas box.
[00:25:31] Speaker A: The box.
[00:25:32] Speaker D: Surely that's fake, right? You can't walk.
[00:25:34] Speaker A: No, they just have the most, like, enormous wedge. So you just.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: Yeah, you. So for our audio listeners, it is literally an Adidas blue striped shoebox.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: With laces on it. The same size as well. Yeah.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: Ridiculous.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: Tell me you won't rob them every day.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: Right. To get to our next round, though, we've got some quick fire questions before we go into more understanding your creative process, because I certainly want to hear a lot about that. Okay, so I've got ten questions. I'll do five. Sam will do the bottom five. And give us just one word, two word, a short response into your thoughts.
[00:26:08] Speaker C: And I really don't trust myself to do this.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: No, no, these are.
[00:26:11] Speaker C: I can't think.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: These are totally safe.
[00:26:12] Speaker C: These will not be yours.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: And just remember, if you embarrass yourself, it's going online.
[00:26:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: I did tell Lois before that, like, she was saying that other podcasts maybe would not give her, like, heads up. A heads up. And I said, no, we'll give you the heads up and then expose you.
[00:26:27] Speaker A: No, there's no. There's no gotchas or nothing that's gonna hurt your pocket. So first one. These are nice questions. Dream brand collab.
[00:26:34] Speaker C: Oh, wow. Oh, my God. That's a big question.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: Lois Ray X.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: Who?
[00:26:39] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: Because you're in such a, like, unique space.
[00:26:42] Speaker C: You mean as a creative director?
[00:26:44] Speaker A: Well, whatever. Whatever format.
[00:26:46] Speaker B: That's what I mean by the unique space you've got. You've literally got feet in both camps.
[00:26:50] Speaker C: Do you know what? Like, I would love to work with, like, a high fashion brand, of course. Like, some more jeans.
[00:26:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:59] Speaker C: So I can make some muddy clothes.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: But she'd stage them very well.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: She'd stage them very well.
[00:27:02] Speaker C: I also. I would also really love to branch into, like, men's wear. So this isn't quick, is it? Oh, my God.
I love, like, Stone island.
[00:27:12] Speaker B: Right?
[00:27:12] Speaker C: I would really. Because I really, like. I'm really inspired by, like, natural elements, and I feel like they do such a good job. Like, the. The neutral tones and, like, the really cool stuff. Yes. And all their collabs, like, with musicians and stuff, I think are really cool.
And then. Yeah, maybe Prada. I love Prada. Like, just a really classic, clean brand that I could just. Yeah. Put my name. So not as a collab, but as a creative director, I would love to, like, do some work for them. Yeah.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: Well, I'll tell you what. As a musician. As a musician, okay, you are Lois Ray Smith. You're a famous music artist now. Like, you got the Travis Scott collabs, all this stuff. Like, you can have your. Whether it's a shoe, whether it's a.
[00:27:53] Speaker C: Piece of clothing, something that is such a difficult collection.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:56] Speaker C: That is such a difficult question for me, especially because I work with a lot of brands that obviously.
Wow.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: I know. That's, like. So mention the biggest loaded question, Stone.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: Island, for you as a creative director. But what about you as an artist?
[00:28:12] Speaker C: What about me as, like, a person? What do I wear a lot of.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: Because it's a bit like the golfer, first off, with Tyler Cray. Like, it's his merch, but it's a. It's a collection.
[00:28:21] Speaker C: I mean, I like Alexander McQueen.
I like Adidas. Adidas originals. That'd be cool.
[00:28:27] Speaker B: Trench coats.
[00:28:27] Speaker C: Adidas, by the way, just. Yeah, I'm trying to think of anyone. I mean, this. I'm probably gonna finish this podcast and think, oh, my God, this classic.
Yeah, that's a really hard question.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: Come back to us on that.
[00:28:41] Speaker C: What about you guys? Can you guys give me some?
[00:28:45] Speaker A: So for me, it's really easy to want to say Nike.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Just because I used to work for Nike. I've been a fan for them forever. And also, it's not the most. Even being the biggest sportswear brand, it's not the most unattainable.
[00:28:58] Speaker C: No option.
[00:28:59] Speaker A: The bag above you there. Someone I know who used to be my manager has had two events with Nike to have their own collection where they had people come in. We went to it in time when they opened the Nike store there to make their own jumpers. So, like, you got to pick from, like, a ton of different styled palettes of their sweatshirt, and then you would come back in half an hour, whatever. And they'd made your custom sweatshirt with all these different panels. You could have multiple swooshes. All that stuff.
[00:29:25] Speaker B: I was wearing that yesterday and got loads of compliments.
[00:29:27] Speaker A: You will do. So I think it's not the most out there.
[00:29:30] Speaker B: It's not ironically, even though it's the biggest name. Yeah.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: Crazy out there. So that would be my.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: I suppose it's, like, part of the culture as, like. Yeah.
[00:29:38] Speaker B: And they like to keep on the street level, though.
[00:29:40] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%.
[00:29:41] Speaker B: Mine's fairly easy. I'd say stussy or carhartt.
[00:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: Nice gold flow is literally, like, anyone.
[00:29:47] Speaker C: I can see you in a car heart vibe.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Oh. Ever. I've got way too much car hearts.
[00:29:51] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:29:52] Speaker B: So much.
[00:29:52] Speaker C: Oh, my God. Will you come back to me? And then I'll.
[00:29:54] Speaker A: We'll come back to you.
[00:29:55] Speaker C: I'll try and be a bit more concise. You guys are really concise.
[00:29:58] Speaker A: This one.
[00:29:58] Speaker B: A good quick fire round so far.
[00:30:00] Speaker A: Good quick fire round. No, it's number two next.
This one. Surely you guys are gonna have an answer for a fashion trend that needs to die. What are you seeing out there in the streets? You're going, we need to get rid of this now.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: Something just popped to your head straight away, and I did say it was the first answer. Always say that.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: And if either of us are wearing it, that's okay.
[00:30:16] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:17] Speaker C: I think. Yeah. It's probably skinny jeans on men.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Do you know, I thought they were long gone now. But you do still see people every now and then.
[00:30:25] Speaker C: I mean, I don't think it's a trend. It's just something that I don't like.
[00:30:28] Speaker A: No, I agree.
[00:30:29] Speaker B: We're gonna call it a trend, and it needs to die a very, very horrible death.
[00:30:33] Speaker A: They ran the streets in the 2010s.
[00:30:35] Speaker C: They did.
[00:30:36] Speaker A: Early on, and I think there are times come now where.
Let's bag it up.
[00:30:41] Speaker B: Can I partner that with cuff chinos as well?
[00:30:43] Speaker A: Cuff chinos have been gone apart from 2007.
[00:30:46] Speaker C: No.
[00:30:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:47] Speaker B: Not wearing your button neck river island.
[00:30:50] Speaker C: T shirt at fashion week, this. Yeah, Paris fashion week. There's been a lot of, like, what I just couldn't get on board with. Like, there was so much I could get on board with. But the one legged trouser, I didn't see that.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: So it's a pull this.
[00:31:05] Speaker C: Several brands at fashion week. If you type in, like, Paris fashion week, half trouser fashion week.
[00:31:09] Speaker B: Like.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: So you took. You're describing a skirt then to me.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: I don't know.
That's quite funny.
[00:31:15] Speaker C: Not quite that. No.
Let me think.
It's like, one. It's basically just one leg. One leg in and then.
[00:31:24] Speaker B: Did it have a leg playing around?
[00:31:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Just like a one legged trouser. Here we go. Like, this is more. Yeah. I'm not really a massive. With, like, just bare legged expanse, that middle one. Like, I'm struggling a bit.
[00:31:37] Speaker B: Yeah. So that is literally one trouser leg for audio listeners. And just one leg.
[00:31:43] Speaker A: Just a leg out.
[00:31:43] Speaker B: It's just. That's just a.
[00:31:45] Speaker C: What do you guys.
[00:31:47] Speaker D: Jeans where they've been so baggy, but, like, so much of the leg is out. And I think they're cool enough to be.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: They're cool.
[00:31:53] Speaker C: I like that.
[00:31:55] Speaker D: I think this is just a bit.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: An entire leg out.
[00:31:57] Speaker C: I don't think I could go out with, like, a blazer on and one trouser leg.
[00:32:00] Speaker A: No, because you assume everyone's going to go, sorry. Makes you ever notice your leg, your whole trousers are split.
[00:32:06] Speaker B: That's like when grandparents were like, I got some rips in your jeans.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: Your shoes are destroyed.
[00:32:11] Speaker B: You do walk around Dean's gate, Manchester now, though, and see people, like, see girls dressed in high heels, blazers, and then exactly, like splinter said trousers, where it's basically just the whole leg is ripped.
[00:32:22] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:32:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:23] Speaker B: And it's like, oh, yeah.
[00:32:25] Speaker C: I mean, for me, it's like, I like to see other people and stuff like that. But for me, I like my own. My own, like, personal style. I'm quite clean and, like.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: Yeah, and you won't be seen deadly. That's what you really want to see.
[00:32:35] Speaker C: Yeah, but I. But I don't hate it on other people, you know?
[00:32:39] Speaker B: Okay, I got you very Switzerland, very sweet.
I get it.
[00:32:44] Speaker A: Next one.
[00:32:45] Speaker B: Because when blends the argophone up and they go, hang on a minute. You were slacking, all so.
[00:32:49] Speaker C: But that's the thing with trends, isn't it? You see something, you think it's absolutely vile, and then three months, four months later, you're wearing it on the high street.
[00:32:56] Speaker B: So five years ago, I wouldn't be seen dead in baggy trousers.
[00:33:00] Speaker C: No. And look. Look at you now.
[00:33:02] Speaker B: I won't be seen dead in skinny jeans.
[00:33:05] Speaker A: Next one. I think it's a great question. If you could dress any fictional character, who would it be, and how would you style them?
[00:33:12] Speaker C: Oh, okay.
[00:33:15] Speaker B: I can't get Bart Simpson out of my head now.
[00:33:17] Speaker A: You'd style Bart Simpson?
[00:33:19] Speaker B: No, I wouldn't want to. Just because you've got cross eyed, bog eyed homer behind you.
[00:33:24] Speaker C: Maybe we could do Harry Potter.
[00:33:27] Speaker A: Harry Potter?
[00:33:28] Speaker C: Yeah, because of his glasses. His glasses are cool. But then I think I would like future, like, retro future Harry Potter. What are you wearing?
[00:33:37] Speaker A: Then describe the fit. What are you putting them in?
[00:33:39] Speaker C: I think maybe, like, maybe we could do a really baggy silver cargo and a really chunky boot. Just really go the polar opposite of what Harry Potter is, because I think he could look kind of chic if he kept the glasses.
[00:33:56] Speaker B: It's the nerd look, innit?
[00:33:57] Speaker C: Yeah, it's kind of like a.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: Maybe like keeping the glasses.
[00:34:00] Speaker C: Keeping the glasses and keeping the little. You know, that, like, the little scar the scars give.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: Were you switching all this up?
[00:34:07] Speaker C: I'm switching all.
I'm switching up the cape. Like, but you know that. You know, the scar, the scars actually giving, like, you know, because it's like a lightning strike. It could give some kind of, like, space theme, like, put me in a full thor outfit.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: No, I like her.
[00:34:25] Speaker C: So, like, the ogre, maybe like a really silver, like, futuristic, maybe like a yeezy vibe.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: Like it.
[00:34:31] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Like, really, like, just. Just bring Harry Potter into a new realm. Keep his magic, keep his wand, keep his scar, but everything else has got to go.
He's a space wizard, so he's a Jedi. Time traveling future retro space wizard.
[00:34:51] Speaker B: Time traveling space Jedi.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: I love it.
[00:34:54] Speaker D: Wait, we just wrote a book.
[00:34:55] Speaker C: Like, we just wrote a sequel.
[00:34:59] Speaker B: The Star Wars.
[00:34:59] Speaker C: Harry Potter. Yes.
[00:35:03] Speaker B: Adidas are gonna just feel.
[00:35:06] Speaker A: That would just feel like Jamira Kwai and Harry Potter into one.
[00:35:09] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: Like space cowboy.
[00:35:11] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:35:13] Speaker A: Without the hacks.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: Wizard.
[00:35:16] Speaker C: Let's get, like, fit on Harry Potter and, like, silver it up.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah, we've done some of that.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: He wears. They wear on golf.
[00:35:24] Speaker C: Fluffy hat.
[00:35:25] Speaker B: No, the hat that talks.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: Oh, the sorting hats. You chugging the sorting hat?
[00:35:29] Speaker B: Listen, I'm a nerd, but I don't give a fuck about Harry Potter.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: But it's got a brim on it.
[00:35:33] Speaker B: Yeah, right.
[00:35:33] Speaker C: There we go.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: That's what it is. Yeah.
So really now I'm just picturing Jamiroquai in Harry Potter clothes.
[00:35:40] Speaker A: It's a new era. It's a new era.
[00:35:42] Speaker B: I want to ask that question to everyone who comes on here.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: I love it because there's got this.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: No one's going to say the same thing twice.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[00:35:47] Speaker B: And I feel, Jermariqua, Harry Potter is my favorite, favorite.
[00:35:50] Speaker A: I'm gonna have to try and design this.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: It's gonna take some real beating that.
[00:35:53] Speaker A: Okay, next one. One surprising thing people wouldn't know about the fashion industry.
[00:36:01] Speaker C: I think that it's actually.
It's not as savage as the music industry. It's actually. People do think the fashion industry is savage, but it's especially when, like, working with small brands, it's really wholesome, and you can have, like, loads of fun with your friends. And I think, like, customer facing, it looks really serious, but it's actually. It's like this. Like, it's a proper fun vibe. And that's why it was such an easy transition for me. I mean, you'll know, like, working in fashion before, like, it's. It's really nice. So, yeah, like, the music industry, really wholesome. Really, like, obviously on the right side of the industry, like, this kind of vibe.
[00:36:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:36:39] Speaker B: It really translates the diddy.
[00:36:41] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: You know, that's good.
[00:36:42] Speaker C: So, yeah, that's a good, positive one.
[00:36:44] Speaker A: Because you would expect a negative when you say what's somewhat surprising.
[00:36:48] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, it's good to hear. Let me try it. Honestly, I've been really, really lucky, though. I can't really think of many negatives.
[00:36:54] Speaker B: But it's good to hear, though, especially, because maybe if this was five years ago, maybe even a couple of years ago, it'd be very different.
[00:37:02] Speaker C: I mean, obviously, there's really. There's horrible dark sides to every industry, especially the fashion industry.
And, like, I think the people who probably look the most glamorous, but have it the hardest are the models because they, like, mentally, physically, they get. Get put through so much. It's really hard modeling all day. There's so much pressure. Like, mental health, competitive. Like, if your images don't look right, you get sent home, and it's like, that's. If you're not. If you've not got a thick skin, that's, like, really soul destroyer. That's brutal in it. But you soon, like, kind of get used to it and get used to the ways of working. But. But it's definitely not as savage as the music industry. So you guys would be fine.
[00:37:45] Speaker A: Keeping it. Keeping it moving.
One item in your wardrobe you couldn't live without.
[00:37:52] Speaker B: It's got me that trench coat.
[00:37:53] Speaker C: It's got me because I wear this all the time.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: It's so.
[00:37:55] Speaker A: Trench coat.
[00:37:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it's probably gonna be, like, a trench because it can just chuck it on. I can wear it with a heel or a boot or even a trainer.
And you can wear it in the summer, open with, like, shorts and a little tee. Or you could literally, like, layer it up in the winter. So probably at a trench, easy.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: Everyone needs a long.
[00:38:14] Speaker C: I'm trying to be. I'm trying to speed it up.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: That's fine.
[00:38:17] Speaker A: No, you're good.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: No, you're good. I think we abandoned the quick fire thing. The first question, slow fire.
Well, right, okay. So the next one is, considering that you've worked, lived, like, just traveled so much, what is the best city for, like, just style?
And I'm talking clothe wise, like, you're walking into Milan or whatever. Like, what are the people walking around in?
[00:38:42] Speaker C: Definitely not New York. I was really surprised. I thought I was gonna absolutely love New York. And there was some really cool, like, obviously street style there. But I think we do it really well in the UK. Like, Manchester and London do it really well, I think.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Say louder for those as well.
[00:38:58] Speaker C: I didn't realize how, like, fashion forward we were until I went to other places expecting so much.
[00:39:05] Speaker B: Right.
[00:39:05] Speaker C: But I think, like, we've got, like, so much self expression. Like, when I, like, in Manchester or London, I see, like, people just really expressing themselves through the clothes. Love that. And then I think, obviously, it's so, like, cliche, but I think Paris for not necessarily the clothes, but the styling, the way that they, like, style. A scarf or a sock or just, you know, a bit of a finesse.
[00:39:31] Speaker B: I do think just standing in Paris, though, makes you instantly look cool.
[00:39:35] Speaker C: Yeah, it makes sense.
[00:39:36] Speaker B: Not really fair. I think that's cheating.
[00:39:39] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe. Especially if you've got like a croissant or something.
[00:39:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
The equivalent of Manchester is literally a state bait.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: That's it.
[00:39:48] Speaker C: There's nothing wrong with estate.
There's everything. Right. Absolutely.
[00:39:52] Speaker B: It doesn't really, you know, it's not.
[00:39:54] Speaker C: The aesthetic look, is it a. I don't know. I don't know.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: Ask me in five years time when the trend changes.
[00:40:00] Speaker C: Sam, I think you. A Carhartt campaign holding a state bake in the northern quarter.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: That's perfect.
[00:40:06] Speaker B: So many of my favorite things in the world. Trademark in one go.
Anyway, continuing. So that was, that was, I mean, to be fair, it wasn't the quickest of quick fire rounds.
[00:40:17] Speaker C: No, that's my fault.
[00:40:18] Speaker B: No, it was not your fault. But the next thing, what I really wanted to cover washing. So normally we've had before where we do, like the Mount Rushmore of artists that have massively inspired, whether it's musicians or whatever, for a music guest we've had on before. So for you, we really want to do a mount Rushmore of best dressed musicians.
[00:40:36] Speaker C: Oh, wow. Okay, so Mount Rushmore's four.
[00:40:38] Speaker B: I always forget you've got.
[00:40:40] Speaker C: Okay, so four.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: Four.
[00:40:43] Speaker C: I'll definitely do Noah. Cyrus. It sounds like I'm absolutely obsessed with her, which I am. She's just so gothic, like, ethereal. I absolutely love how brave she is. Like, she does some wild things. So brave.
Hmm. I think maybe I could say Elvis because he's just so wild. Michael Jackson, obviously.
Michael Jackson's just like on another level.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Three already.
[00:41:09] Speaker C: I like the stylish.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: What's the look, though? Cause you've got from 50 years almost, of Michael.
[00:41:15] Speaker C: It's just like the black, obviously, I love black leather. The white socks, the moonwalk with the socks, the boots. The black chunky boots. Like, amazing sharp. Michael. And then one more.
[00:41:29] Speaker A: One more. It's a great list so far.
Maybe two dead, one alive.
[00:41:36] Speaker C: Maybe I could do kind of like a Britney or a shakira or a cool, like a Christina. You know, Christina and dirty, like just something really sexy. Really, like, girly like that. When I was little, I was looking.
[00:41:49] Speaker A: At that thinking all three of those early two thousands.
[00:41:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Throughout their years, for sure. You know that the mini skirts, the big chunky belts. Even anastasia had, like, such a cool vibe.
[00:42:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:01] Speaker C: The big glasses, love. And the little tiny crop tops and the, I mean, if the, if the abs come with the outfit, then I'll take it. Do you know what I mean?
[00:42:11] Speaker B: Abs do not come included in this purchase.
[00:42:16] Speaker A: Very quick, solid form.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: That's so bold as well. I love that.
[00:42:19] Speaker C: Yeah. A bit of a variation.
[00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was gonna say not what I'd expect, but, like, I mean, I.
[00:42:25] Speaker C: Skimmed over Elvis, but just because it's so iconic, it's hard.
[00:42:29] Speaker B: Everybody gets the Elvis thing, you know what I mean? You don't need to explain why Elvis was cool, you know, I think that's pretty fair also.
[00:42:36] Speaker A: So you're talking about someone the fifties. You're talking someone who's so without any influence from, like, now. We've got so much influence for what we like to wear from based on other people.
[00:42:46] Speaker B: And just think, what did the Elvis film come out last year?
[00:42:48] Speaker A: Two years ago.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: Two years ago. To think that that film came out literally 50, 60, 70 years after he was, like, peak and still everyone's like, yo, this is cool.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been dead, what, 20 years before he born. Was he born dead in like, 72?
[00:43:03] Speaker B: When did he die?
[00:43:04] Speaker A: I'm guessing 72 to Elvis death.
77 nearly. So it was enough time going back.
[00:43:12] Speaker C: Even the hair is just iconic.
[00:43:14] Speaker B: Mad.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I'll give it that. Michael as well. Solid, solid one.
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:43:20] Speaker A: You know which one I'm going to throw on? I'm not going to do a four because I'll be here for 90 minutes. I think. Always dress is really cool. Is Matty Matheson, you know, who plays fak on the bear? Would you call Matty Matheson fashion? He's got his own brand and because he's a big guy. Because he's a big guy. But the way he layers, like, workman style clothes and jackets with, like, flats.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: I don't know if I'm thinking of the same.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: Which one?
Fashion. And you'll see exactly what I'm talking about. But I think I just can't remember.
[00:43:48] Speaker B: Which guy in the. In the berry is.
[00:43:49] Speaker A: And because he's this guy, I think.
[00:43:51] Speaker D: He'S the only one that's actually a chef. So he is chef.
[00:43:55] Speaker A: But going through some of his fits, I love the way he layers stuff, like with shirts and a simple vest and a hat.
[00:44:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:44:00] Speaker A: Underneath.
[00:44:01] Speaker C: So cool.
[00:44:01] Speaker A: Because he's a big guy, but that's not the best fit for him. Usually, the way you take it.
[00:44:06] Speaker C: No, I actually love that as well.
[00:44:09] Speaker A: But his use of colour and silhouette, I think always he just looks so cool whenever you see him. So I really like his style.
[00:44:16] Speaker C: I love his style.
[00:44:17] Speaker A: Do you want to throw one away?
[00:44:18] Speaker C: Very good.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: Shout came to mind.
[00:44:19] Speaker B: It's just got to be Tyler Crater that I can't really think past it. Tyler Crater.
[00:44:23] Speaker A: I think it's the time Tyler makes it cooler because most of his.
[00:44:25] Speaker C: Is that your answer for everything?
[00:44:27] Speaker B: Probably, yeah.
[00:44:28] Speaker D: I think he said it every episode.
[00:44:30] Speaker A: No, I think you're right. I think you're right.
[00:44:32] Speaker B: There's not many questions you can ask me that I couldn't answer with.
[00:44:34] Speaker A: But mostly it's fashion before it even comes up. Is white tee logo in the middle, colored captain.
[00:44:39] Speaker C: Obviously none of us not broke.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: That's none of the stuff I'm thinking. I'm thinking of his life. Yeah, that's.
He just makes his old skater stuff's cool as fuck anyway.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: But anything he wears looks cool, though.
[00:44:53] Speaker B: Yeah, like, I really need everything.
New ones as well. You know, the dog on the bottom.
[00:44:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Love him.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:45:00] Speaker D: Charles Gambino. To be honest. Donald Glover.
[00:45:04] Speaker A: Kanye's I think the top of the tops for this I saw. There was just going off a tangent here. There was a fit he had in 2017 and he got roasted for it. And then it was someone I follow on TikTok reviews fashion who said this, what he's wearing now is the most fashionable thing, but at the time was straight garbage because it was so ahead of his time for the kind of stuff that he was wearing. But I think he's always been like that. He said in interviews where he likes to think for fashion ten years in the future, all the time. And I think the way that he layers stuff and the kind of people that he's friends with, that he's friends with Virgil when he was.
[00:45:39] Speaker C: Some of the yeezy silhouettes are so amazing.
[00:45:42] Speaker B: So cool. But this is the thing. It's like now, obviously, including me, everyone's wearing Carhartt now. He was wearing the mess up Carhartt stuff, like, years before anything else was.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I think a lot of his stuff is very similar to, you know, Jerry Lorenzo from fear of God. I think a lot of his stuff is very similar as well because it's. He's the one who did the whole essential collection. But that's ironically his least impactful stuff because I think he's got such interesting, layered, heavyset stuff.
[00:46:11] Speaker B: Sorry to interrupt, but can we have a moment of breaking news where Kanye and Bianca are divorced?
[00:46:16] Speaker A: I did see that today.
[00:46:17] Speaker C: Has that happened today?
[00:46:19] Speaker B: Apparently so. Apparently so. But that's just because she was sent to watch him anyway, isn't it, Liam?
[00:46:23] Speaker A: Yeah, probably so. Well, anyway, not to get off onto.
[00:46:26] Speaker C: Another conspiracy, we shouldn't go there. No, we really shouldn't go there.
That is a crazy topic to address five minutes before the end of the podcast for so many reasons.
[00:46:40] Speaker B: So. Right. What we want to know, especially because the amount of cool shit that you're doing at the moment, like, I mean, first I want to know, where do you see. Where do you see yourself leaning into the most? Are you going to take a moment for music or.
[00:46:53] Speaker C: No.
I, like, have a very romanticized view of my life, I think. And I don't think it's impossible to do it all, but there's a way that I love looking at life. This is gonna get really philosophically, really cringey now, but I think I see creativity as a lens, basically, and you can do stuff in your life to kind of. Of polish the lens, if that makes sense. So, for me, and it's different for everybody, like, for me, it could be, like, as simple as, like, eating well, exercising, meditating, walking on the beach, playing my guitar, singing. Like, stuff just comes through me like that. For me, it's not like, oh, my God, am I doing music or am I doing fashion? It's just something that I do to try and keep my lens polished. And then when I do fashion stuff and I've got to come up with a creative concept of I'm clear if that makes sense to. So it's not necessarily, like, I don't really compartmentalize creativity in that way, where I think, same with art, like. Cause I'm really passionate about art, and I've just started getting into that, but I try not to see them all as separate things. I just think I'm just doing it and trying to refine and maybe I.
[00:48:11] Speaker B: Think that's what makes the best art, though, isn't it? Where it's all synonymous.
[00:48:13] Speaker C: Yes. So I don't know. Is my answer, really. I just go where feels good. Is.
[00:48:20] Speaker B: That's a better answer than spinning that off, bending that off. I'm doing this.
[00:48:23] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:23] Speaker B: You're doing it all.
[00:48:24] Speaker C: Yeah. And I mean, like, fashion and music, really. I mean, music didn't fall into my lap. I've been doing music since I was five, but, like, fashion really did fall into my lap. So it's like, I just kind of, like, go with it. Go with the wave and, like, enjoy it. And if it feels good and it's adding value and, like, me, you guys know all about that. Like, if you're doing something that feels good and it's adding value, and hopefully you're making, like, a living where you can be comfortable, then I think, just do it.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:48:52] Speaker C: Top tier answer. Yeah.
[00:48:53] Speaker B: To advice that top tier advice.
[00:48:55] Speaker C: Yeah. Thanks.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: Welcome to Lois's test.
[00:48:59] Speaker C: See, I'm not just stupid.
[00:49:00] Speaker B: You're not stupid at all.
[00:49:02] Speaker A: No. That's great.
[00:49:03] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you're gonna. You dropped all that advice, and then you're gonna deliver an incredible performance that they can all tune in and see as well, so.
[00:49:11] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:49:11] Speaker B: That is a guest and a half.
[00:49:12] Speaker C: We'll see.
[00:49:13] Speaker B: So we're gonna have to wrap this up, aren't we?
[00:49:15] Speaker A: We are indeed. So thank you very much for coming on.
[00:49:19] Speaker C: Thank you so much for having.
[00:49:21] Speaker A: Where's she looking at? You?
[00:49:23] Speaker C: Don't find me. I hate the Internet.
[00:49:24] Speaker A: Okay, she'll find you.
[00:49:27] Speaker C: I'll find you guys.
[00:49:28] Speaker A: She'll see your stuff.
[00:49:29] Speaker C: No, so just Lois Ray Smith on Instagram. I've got a TikTok which I never use. I hate the Internet, even though I owe my entire career to it. So, I mean, maybe just don't find me. You can email me.
[00:49:40] Speaker B: Well, I'll shout for you.
[00:49:41] Speaker C: I'm a grandma.
[00:49:42] Speaker B: Head to Spotify and listen to Lois Ray.
Even though she's changing it all at the moment, it is still sick.
[00:49:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Spotify, what are they, apple music? All the above.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: Streaming. Streaming platforms. That's what the professionals say. Thank you. That's what they say, right? Amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming.
[00:50:01] Speaker C: Thank you for having me.
[00:50:02] Speaker B: I mean, I know you've. In fact, I'm going to tell everyone that you've come all the way from Lisbon just for us.
So thank you for coming.
[00:50:08] Speaker C: Thank you so much for having me.
[00:50:09] Speaker B: Just for us.
[00:50:10] Speaker C: Thank you. Thanks for having me, guys.
[00:50:11] Speaker B: You're very welcome.
[00:50:12] Speaker C: You've been amazing.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: You're welcome.
[00:50:13] Speaker B: Until next time, welcome to Feel Weight podcast.
