THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST ep#9 - HIP HOP WORLD IN DISARRAY - Kendrick v Drake feud breakdown!

[00:00:11] Speaker A: Hello. Welcome to the Fillwood podcast, brought to you by Fillwood Studios. Today is an emergency episode. I'm calling it. [00:00:18] Speaker B: That's fair. Four days early. [00:00:19] Speaker A: Yes. We've been very, very busy, and we were struggling to squeeze one in. And then the world of hip hop, the world of hip hop has gone into just disarray. Disarray just into complete abyss. I mean, we're gonna get into that a little bit later, aren't we? But the point being, this episode had to happen because we've got a lot to bring to you and we wanted to be hot with it. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah, well, if by already, if you've clicked on this episode, if you listen on Spotify. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:00:47] Speaker B: And or YouTube, the title be something amongst either hip hop disarray beef on site. [00:00:53] Speaker A: Beef on site, or I don't know. [00:00:55] Speaker B: What, something along the lines of that. So amongst other things, that will be the main coverage of what? [00:00:59] Speaker A: Kendrick's quarrel. [00:01:02] Speaker B: Kendrick and Drake's quarrel, which is the. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Whitest way of saying it, and J. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Cole taking a backseat. We'll get to all of that. [00:01:08] Speaker A: We've missed so much. The thing is, I say we missed so much. It's all been in like four or five days. [00:01:14] Speaker B: We've been for once, due to how the show runs and then the editing process, often by the time if you found us on TikTok, the information you're getting is brand new, is old. For once, you're right on time. [00:01:26] Speaker A: I think we're gonna get, depending on. [00:01:28] Speaker B: Also how quick this comes out on Spotify. [00:01:29] Speaker A: Yep. But anyway, we'll get out quick anyway, so let's skip through our other things normally. Would you like to hit me with your song of the week? [00:01:37] Speaker B: Blazing through the song of the week? I would love to know if people are putting these in their, in their playlist. [00:01:42] Speaker A: So if you are, let us know. [00:01:43] Speaker B: If you are, please put up wherever you're watching this or listen to this, put it in the comments for it. Let us know if you listen to this. Mine is inside your love, Leon Wert. It's from the late seventies. It's a funk tune, big fat song. We're going back with it. Other ones recently have been brand new songs, but we're going back because the sun's been out. So when the sun comes out, the funky funk playlist. [00:02:01] Speaker A: Is it in your summer playlist? [00:02:02] Speaker B: It's in my summer playlist and my funky funk playlist. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Funky funk playlist. So what's your armor's your funky funk playlist? [00:02:08] Speaker B: You'll never guess. It's a lot of funk in there. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Funk or similar variety, latin afro beats or something? [00:02:14] Speaker B: No, it's pretty traditional, to be honest. But that's my song of the week. [00:02:17] Speaker A: Well, I've never heard of it. I'm gonna have to check it out. [00:02:19] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you actually did hear of it. Cause I played it when we were sitting on it. [00:02:21] Speaker A: Oh, well, I enjoyed it. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Then we carry it. Do you want me to do my film of the week or do you. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Wanna go for your song? No, go for it. [00:02:26] Speaker B: It's called the black phone with Ethan Hawke. It's a horror film, so. But it's not a jump. It's not. [00:02:31] Speaker A: I'm like a Drake meme when it comes to horror movies. [00:02:33] Speaker B: Sam, aka kid Blue, is not a horror fan at all and he's seen a few. And I'm a die hard horror fan, but he doesn't like the jumpy ones, which is totally valid. I get that. But this is not a jumpy one. It's more basically the premise is super duper quick guys taking kids in the late seventies or so and hiding them in his basement, then killing like chopping up kids that. It's the story of this kid who's in there. Light work. Yeah. And he's got a phone here and it's called the black phone. This is not a spoiler because they reveal this really quickly. He's talking to all the other dead kids and they're trying to give him tips on how to escape. And he's talking the kids on the phone, but all of them are dead. He's like, hold on, Matt Ro, you died four years ago. You were, you've been missing years ago. And he was like, yeah, this is what he's gonna do. And he was like basically telling them what he's gonna do and how you should try and stop it and stuff. It was a good film. It was not a jumpy film. It was a decent horror film. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Just got any child abduction films, don't you? Is that giving something away a little bit? Because you like prisoners, don't you? [00:03:27] Speaker B: On topic for the. You watch prisoners with me and you liked it. [00:03:30] Speaker A: It was really good. [00:03:31] Speaker B: It's an amazing film. But anyway, that's my film and song of the week. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Okay, interesting, right? Well, my song of the week is completely on topic, even though we're gonna get back in it later. Yeah, I am picking meet the Grahams by Kendrick Lamar. [00:03:41] Speaker B: Yeah, fair point. [00:03:42] Speaker A: There's been four diss tracks to pick from this week, but as we always like to rub into your lovely wife Danielle, that we never get Kendrick Lamar music. It takes usually six years in between. We've got four songs in one week, and it's all I've been listening to. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Unprecedented blessings. [00:03:57] Speaker A: Exactly. And I will get onto it later. But meet the Grahams, I think, is the best of them. [00:04:02] Speaker B: No, it isn't, but we'll keep going. [00:04:04] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. [00:04:05] Speaker C: See, I'm quite biased. I've not. [00:04:06] Speaker A: You've not heard that one. [00:04:07] Speaker B: That's for the best, though. [00:04:08] Speaker A: That's the best you for is probably better, to be fair. But meet the Grahams is, like, proper old school, and it's like a really dark beat, and it's just straight bars. Anyway. I love it. Shut your mouth. [00:04:17] Speaker C: Yeah, save it. [00:04:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Go on, Splinter. [00:04:20] Speaker B: Oh, no, you're going for your movie. Sorry. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Yes, I was going for my movie. Apologies. [00:04:23] Speaker B: Go ahead. [00:04:24] Speaker A: But again, I'm gonna go for a series because it's on topic. Not on topic, but it's on trend. Should I say we've watched baby reindeer this week, so we're gonna say severance? No, we're gonna come back to 7th. [00:04:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll come back to 7th. Go on, then. Come anyway. [00:04:37] Speaker A: Baby arena. Have any of you watch baby reindeer on TikTok? [00:04:40] Speaker B: I've seen a mountain of it. [00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah, don't watch it. It's horrible. It's completely, like, spine tingling. Yeah, it's like a third or fourth episode or something where there was the biggest warning at the start for. I'm not even gonna say it. Cause I don't even know what the TikTok. Correct way of saying what trigger it's gonna be. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Don't. [00:04:59] Speaker C: Trauma trigger. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the point being, I've never seen a warning that abrupt. And I was like, oh, wow, this is gonna be bad. It was just the most graphic, awful thing in the world. Like, I was like. I was like Drake watching horror film, like, with blanket on my eyes. It was just awful. And me and Lilz finished it, and we were like, I don't even know if what. I keep watching. It was just grim. That being said, it is, like, a very clever series, but it's just mega uncomfortable. But I can see why everyone's bashing it, and I just wish you'd both see it now because me and Lilz keeps signing off our text now we've sent from iPhone. I don't know if you've seen that on TikTok. Cause she's obviously so. Do you even know anything about. [00:05:33] Speaker C: I don't know a single thing about it. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Martha, is a stalker. It's like a stalker, but like a different take on it, basically. And she's like. She's claiming that she's, like, this lawyer, she's got loads about her life and obviously she's just, like, sad and mentally unwell anyway, and every time she messaged him and emails him, she signs off with, you know, when it says sent from iPhone, but she's not sending it from an iPhone. And all of her texts and, like, all of her stalker emails are all misspelled. So she'll put sent from iPhone at the end of each message, but sometimes spell it wrong. So sometimes it's, like, sent from Afan and it's just so tap. But now we keep sending. Signing our texts off, like, sent from Afon. It's so weird. But anyway, yeah, so that's been, like, twisting my brain up this week and most from some other good series we'll get into another time when it's more relevant. Anyway, so besides the Kendrick and Drake beef, a lot has happened in the world of music, hasn't it? [00:06:28] Speaker B: So should we get to splinters song of the week before we get into it? [00:06:32] Speaker A: Probably should, yeah, probably should. Just on trend that you're not important. [00:06:36] Speaker B: Go on. It's splinter. Carry on. [00:06:38] Speaker C: My movie recommendation is a movie called Detroit, so I love the Hills in it. It's like John Boyega, Will Porter. [00:06:48] Speaker B: That's a great film. It came out. [00:06:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:51] Speaker A: Set in Detroit. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Oh, you never. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:53] Speaker B: Mud. [00:06:54] Speaker C: What gave that away? [00:06:55] Speaker A: Just not feeling. [00:06:56] Speaker C: Yeah. It's just a movie about a band called the Dramatics. [00:06:59] Speaker A: A band, yeah. [00:07:00] Speaker C: So it's. It kind of tells a few different stories about the effects of the riots and the police riots. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Oh, the nineties LA riots. [00:07:08] Speaker B: No, before that. [00:07:09] Speaker C: Detroit. Not in LA. [00:07:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:11] Speaker B: He's not even listening, is he? [00:07:13] Speaker C: But it's interesting because it tells the story of this band that was meant to make their debut Motown performance and couldn't because of the riots outside. And it went on to. I don't want to spoil it too much because it is a phenomenally good movie. [00:07:25] Speaker A: I honestly didn't know it was anything like that. I thought it was just. [00:07:27] Speaker C: It's so intense and it's so, like, will Porter plays this, like, incredibly well. [00:07:31] Speaker A: And I'm a big, well underrated, isn't he? [00:07:33] Speaker C: Honestly, very fan as well. So I love him. [00:07:36] Speaker A: I hate him. [00:07:37] Speaker C: But he. He plays this really, like, difficult to play role, and it's about these policemen that kind of abuse these, like, young black musicians just literally just in this hotel and it's about the singer of dramatics. Had to leave because of, like, personal things. I don't want to be too specific and mislead it, but it's just an incredible story. And there's a whole, like, where are they now? And where did they go after these riots and stuff? And he, instead of becoming this big Motown singer, just became a church singer. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:08:07] Speaker C: Yeah. And it's honestly really beautiful. [00:08:10] Speaker A: Interesting, interesting. A big record that I watch. What's your song then, kiddo? [00:08:13] Speaker C: My song of the week is a song called Jack let go the Door, which is by a band of my mates from Nottingham called Marvin's Revenge. [00:08:21] Speaker A: That's a cool name. [00:08:22] Speaker C: Yeah, Marvin's revenge. So their band name is Marvin's revenge, but they changed their social media handle to different things involving that name. So I think their instagram at the minute, they change it all the time. It's like Martin's ravine. So they just change it in, like, stupid ways but really good, like, psychedelic, like, punk band that I've just. I've followed since I was. Since I met him a few years ago. And that song particularly is just respect. [00:08:42] Speaker B: He always plugs his pals as well. Yeah. [00:08:44] Speaker A: I was actually gigging with Jacob from big umbrella last week. [00:08:47] Speaker C: Yeah, drummer. [00:08:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Which was just. So his shout last week was big umbrella. And then I was on a gig that weekend and I didn't know it was him. I just got in the car and. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Was like, oh, does you. [00:09:00] Speaker A: Yeah, we shouted you out this week. And he was like, oh, sick, man. I didn't know that. [00:09:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Anyway, yeah. Big respect. Big respect. [00:09:06] Speaker C: Try to boost my friends in the Manchester city. [00:09:08] Speaker B: I respect it. [00:09:09] Speaker C: Not some, like, post fun music friends. [00:09:13] Speaker A: Liam's trying to give them a second chance at life. [00:09:16] Speaker B: Second world buzz. Yeah, yeah. Come on stream. [00:09:18] Speaker A: So you're saying old people don't deserve, like, to be enjoyed on the TikTok row? [00:09:22] Speaker B: He's still alive. [00:09:23] Speaker C: So Kendrick be's crazy, right? [00:09:26] Speaker A: We'll get on to that. We'll get onto that. In other music news, though, we are finally getting childish Gambino's return. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:33] Speaker A: And it looks like we're getting two albums. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Yeah. For not a last time, but an ultimate time. [00:09:37] Speaker A: So am I right in saying one of them is basically that untitled album he brought out, like, a couple of years ago? That was all dates and stuff. And I believe it's that kind of finished, isn't it? [00:09:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:48] Speaker A: But then. Then there's another one coming, so if you could just get the names up for us, please. Splinter. But I've heard. I mean, he's also leaked that there's a. There's a Kanye western kid. Could he collab on that childish Gambino album? [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah, because now they're pals again now. [00:10:01] Speaker A: Yes, they are made up, which we love to say. And Gambino came on for Tyler. Craters Coachella set. [00:10:06] Speaker B: Mm hmm. He was great. [00:10:09] Speaker A: Him singing running out of time. Yeah. [00:10:10] Speaker B: So good class. I just can't treat if you're there in it. [00:10:14] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, treat. I mean, I did see Tyler said that he was like, I don't know what I'm gonna do for the second weekend because, like, I've basically used up my contact book. [00:10:22] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a good point. Unless he pulls up first. You could do flower boy, and he could pull out Frank for the intro. [00:10:27] Speaker A: That would be for his own Coachella set. [00:10:29] Speaker B: No, he wouldn't. [00:10:29] Speaker A: I don't think so, let alone someone else's. [00:10:32] Speaker B: Atavista. That was it. Yeah, we spoke briefly about Atavista. Right. Yeah, a couple episodes ago on the show, but. [00:10:39] Speaker C: Oh, see, it's hard to find specific leaks about. All I was able to find this morning was that he spoke very highly about this collab with Kanye. [00:10:50] Speaker A: Yeah, he did. [00:10:51] Speaker C: There was a few, like, listed videos of, like, leaks and stuff, but every single one I clicked was unavailable. So I think his PRT might have gone through and just cleared it all. [00:11:00] Speaker A: Fair enough. [00:11:01] Speaker C: There must be something out there that's really good, but it's really hard to find. [00:11:04] Speaker A: All I'm gonna say is, like, 2024. It's like, it's gonna be good for you. I mean, we've had. So apart from Mister Morale and the biggest episode in 2022, that was Kendrick's first in six years. Yeah, we've obviously had no frank and probably still not gonna get a frank anyway. [00:11:18] Speaker B: Not since 2016. [00:11:20] Speaker A: Tyler's apparently gonna be bringing an album out this year. We've got a childish Gambino album this year. We're supposed to have two more Kanye west albums this year. Drake's probably gonna release four fucking albums because he does that. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker A: You know, like, we're getting speeds. [00:11:34] Speaker B: We're eating well. [00:11:35] Speaker A: We're like BTS fans. Finally. [00:11:37] Speaker B: We finally are. We're actually eating well. They're giving out music. Left, right. They go, you know what? What's my job? I'm a musician. Maybe I should put out some. [00:11:44] Speaker A: Maybe I should release something. I mean, that being said, I also don't trust any of my favorite artists to actually follow promises you never can. I mean, Kanye did release one, but then said there was two more coming in March. And, you know, don't forget the one. [00:11:55] Speaker B: That one also got delayed thrice. [00:11:58] Speaker A: Yeah, the one that came out thrice. [00:12:04] Speaker B: It's in there. Google thrice. [00:12:06] Speaker A: I swear, I've only ever heard you say thrice. [00:12:08] Speaker B: Google thrice. Google thrice. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Meaning this way here for bitch. [00:12:12] Speaker B: Apart from being a rock, it's a. [00:12:14] Speaker A: Rock band from America. [00:12:15] Speaker B: Does thrice mean three is the top thing? [00:12:17] Speaker A: Thrice meaning three times? No way. [00:12:21] Speaker B: I'm just making it three times. [00:12:22] Speaker A: It's in the Collins stage. [00:12:23] Speaker B: You were just making us what? [00:12:24] Speaker A: I thought that was just Liam's linguist. [00:12:26] Speaker C: No one cares about that. [00:12:27] Speaker A: I thought it was Liam's urban dictionary. [00:12:28] Speaker B: It does seem like it, doesn't it? But, no, thrice is a real word. [00:12:31] Speaker A: Is thrice a british word ever? [00:12:32] Speaker B: So it's gotta be no Americans out of tune. Thrice. Anyway. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Yeah, but anyway, actually, I realized I couldn't wait to discuss this because this is just so, just on quickly on Kanye west. And this, we're gonna get onto why we're actually talking about this. But just in the timeline of. I remember in my fourth year of university when he brought out Jesus King. [00:12:50] Speaker B: What year is this? [00:12:51] Speaker A: Just 2019, I believe. [00:12:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:53] Speaker A: 2019 was Jesus King. Yeah. And we got, you know, Kanye's enlightenment, shall we call it, of him, you. [00:13:00] Speaker B: Know, him stepping away from his old music. I'm not performing secular music anymore. [00:13:03] Speaker A: I won't be swearing in my music anymore. [00:13:05] Speaker B: I ain't talking about women. I'm not talking about money. [00:13:07] Speaker A: He's not gonna do any of his old catalogue because it's all, you know, it's all evil. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Apart from he's changed his profile to that goat. Respect. [00:13:16] Speaker A: I'm going to get onto that thing. [00:13:17] Speaker B: You know, 808, I saw a chart of every time he swore, whatever. In each album, 808 has no profanity. And I did not know. [00:13:23] Speaker A: Really, I did. [00:13:23] Speaker B: Not a single bad word is interesting. All of heartbreaking interesting. [00:13:28] Speaker A: Well, anyway, so. So from 2019, he said, yeah, watch how profane it is. Yeah, no swearing. All very churchy stuff. [00:13:35] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:13:36] Speaker A: Hang on. We're looking at Spotify now. He's changed loads of his album covers anyway. But, yeah, Jesus King. [00:13:42] Speaker B: Yep. [00:13:43] Speaker A: All gospel music won a gospel Grammy. [00:13:45] Speaker B: He did. [00:13:46] Speaker A: And yet here we are in 2024. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Yeezus porn. [00:13:50] Speaker A: Yeezus porn. Kanye west is releasing officially a adult video site. [00:13:55] Speaker C: This was fun to try and find. [00:13:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I bet. Did you get a couple of viruses on your laptop? Searching Yeezy porn. [00:14:00] Speaker C: I got vast, wouldn't you? [00:14:01] Speaker B: I'll say this, though. I'll say this. I think it's total fake. There's no better way to market yourself than controversy, or controversy, depending how you want to pronounce it, than to say something outlandish like, yay, porn coming soon. [00:14:14] Speaker A: I don't think he needs to. I don't think he wants to be releasing that, though he is, but I. [00:14:20] Speaker B: Just don't think he's, I don't think he will. It'll be the same thing where he said what he said. I remember when I worked at JD, so 2018 and it said, yeezus homes coming soon. And he was working on the homes overseas and he said, it's going to be very soon. I'm doing self sustaining homes overseas for, in whatever. For those people. Nothing came of it. It'll be the same thing as this where he's just starting to get you in the headlines. [00:14:43] Speaker A: Because in my thoughts, I think he. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Still wants to do that, but I don't think he's gonna do it. [00:14:47] Speaker A: One of my, which is just so typical of a music degree for my pop music research essay module I had to do. Yeah, I did Kanye west. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Yes. [00:14:54] Speaker A: I remember in a level I've done history, law, politics, and everyone was doing all these like, really intense modules, intense subjects. And I just thought, nah, because I can, I'm going to. And my essay was Kanye west crazy or genius? And it was just, it was a perfect time for. Yeah, I got first. [00:15:13] Speaker C: I'd love to read that. [00:15:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I got first class degree, mate. So suck your mom. Anyway, it was perfect time to do it because it was peak, like make America great again, like, in being pally with Donald Trump and him, like, actually having his first. Well, his first public breakdown. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:29] Speaker A: So it was, it was, it was, sadly for Kelly west. Perfect for my essay. Yeah, but anyway, yeah, so, and, well, what five years can do to a person. [00:15:38] Speaker B: Oh, no big change since. [00:15:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but. And again, I'll go into it and then we'll pause because he also put his little two pence in the beef, didn't he? [00:15:47] Speaker B: Tell me, what did he say? I don't think I saw this. [00:15:49] Speaker A: Have you not heard his verse on the, like, that remix? [00:15:51] Speaker B: No, I've not heard it yet. [00:15:53] Speaker A: Do you know it's there, though? [00:15:54] Speaker B: I did hear about this, but I've not heard. [00:15:55] Speaker A: Oh, my word. I'm so glad I'm telling you this. [00:15:57] Speaker B: For the lyrics, please. Like that. Kanye lyrics. [00:16:01] Speaker A: Splinter boy. So Kanye west jumped on a podcast and I can't remember who it's with a big hip hop podcast. And he did the typical Kanye west thing, said to the guy, oh, yeah, I've done a verse on the like that. [00:16:15] Speaker B: I saw this. He literally played it right in front of him and just listened to his own music. He's just so. [00:16:25] Speaker A: Right. And to be fair, it slaps. [00:16:28] Speaker B: Okay, I'm gonna read this while you're absolutely slack. [00:16:30] Speaker A: So obviously the beat for like that is actually sick anyway. But Kanye west was basically feeling very left out. Let's say that we're talking about the big three and the goats and all that, and he feels like he should be in there, man, I can back up. [00:16:43] Speaker C: He makes porn now. Doesn't make rap. [00:16:44] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:16:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:45] Speaker A: Well, his diss track is actually just a full adult video. No, it's not. But anyway, yeah, so it is actually sick, this. But he's going at everyone. And to be fair, I can't properly remember. Yeah, I'm at Cat Williams when they get funny again. [00:16:58] Speaker C: I literally saw that as well. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Where's Lucian? Serve your master. [00:17:02] Speaker A: But he goes mad. He attacks J. Cole a little bit. [00:17:07] Speaker B: Let's play J. Cole. Get this. [00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So he's gone at everyone. But what I will say is, and this is coming from a Kanye west fan. A big, big fan. I did think it was a little bit sad. [00:17:16] Speaker C: Why? [00:17:17] Speaker B: He's just jumping. Yeah, if you're not directed, if you're not inside the beaver, try and go, hey, what about me, though? And you just. [00:17:23] Speaker A: Because the thing of reason I think it's sad is because Kanye is always in the middle of it and he's always relevant. And even though he's just brought a new album out, he just wasn't really involved. I thought it was a bit sad. And to be fair, he came out with, like, as we know, the whole of the hip hop world is against Drake Bar, a couple of people. But, like, even his boys have been turning on him, like the weekend and future and loads of people have turned on him. [00:17:46] Speaker B: He basically said, I'm so glad I never signed to Ovo when I had the opportunity, which is one of the big. [00:17:52] Speaker A: Again, I don't want to get carried away because we'll go into it in depth. But one of the big reasons that I'm actually believing a lot of the controversial things Kendrick Lamar's saying, because there's got to be a reason, everybody. You don't want to touch Drake with a barge. Paul, you know, but anyway. And the whole point of, obviously, first person shooting mode came out and they talk about the big three. And then Kendrick comes back with, like, that. On the Metro booming album, it is about the three of them. So Kanye just walking in and going, whoa, I'm one of the. I'm one of the big. [00:18:17] Speaker B: What about me? [00:18:18] Speaker A: What about me? And again, it's hard. I don't know how to describe because I actually think it's sick and it's sad that it won't get properly released because I actually think it's really cool to hear him over that beat as well. [00:18:26] Speaker C: But did anybody, is he been mentioned at all in any of it? [00:18:30] Speaker A: No, since those. Because he's put his poor. Because he's put his two pence in it. But no, he wasn't really, because again, like, the funny thing is everything was about the three of them. And then, obviously, as we're going to it, J Cole stepped away. But then, you know, Rick Ross came out with a diss track. Pusha t has been piping his own, because Pusha t was the one people forget. Pusha t is the one who released. [00:18:52] Speaker B: Exposed the dice. [00:18:53] Speaker A: He exposed the fact Drake had Adonis, a child in, what, four or five years? A couple of years ago, at least couple years ago. And Drake never came back. He never came back on it because he didn't want to come at push. But on this, people are scared of pushing. [00:19:05] Speaker B: I want to go in there because he said on that one, he said, why are you hiding your son from the world? Let that boy be free. When he named the track something. Adonis, son of Adonis. [00:19:14] Speaker A: Story of Adonis. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Story of Adonis. Because it's meant to be story of OJ. And on that and then the next album, which I think his views, I might be wrong, drake has, in the last song, he mentions Adonis, talked about and said, I wasn't hiding my son from the world. I was hiding. I wasn't hiding my son from the world. I was hiding the world from my son. And he says afterwards, he said the diss track was nothing because I already wrote the album I had already wrote and was going to talk about my son, which he probably wasn't. [00:19:38] Speaker A: And it's a very convenient, though, isn't he? [00:19:40] Speaker B: He's a very, very convenient excuse of going, oh, I was already going to mention that. Go to the bottom of it. I'm sure it was the last one. I remember what the song's called when I see it. I think hotline bling bling wasn't that long ago. No, not views. What's on where he's got a hoodie on. [00:19:54] Speaker A: He's already got a hoodie on. [00:19:55] Speaker C: I think he. Does he not say it in you with me? Is that not the song? [00:19:57] Speaker B: No, I don't think it is. It's not. [00:19:59] Speaker A: It releases that much fucking stuff. [00:20:02] Speaker B: No, it's not. It's not. CLB. Go to his other album. Sorry. It's the one where he's got a hood on and he's in. He's in, like, the dark and I can't remember what it's called. Scroll down. I hate when they put up, like, everything he's ever been on because it's too much, that one. [00:20:14] Speaker A: Oh, darling. Demo tapes. [00:20:15] Speaker B: I'm almost certain it's on that one. I'm almost certain. [00:20:19] Speaker A: This was a bit of an untitled ambassador kind of vibe itself, wasn't it? [00:20:22] Speaker B: Which is the best way to really expose your son, but I'm sure it's on this one anyway. But that would make sense for it to be on. But I might be wrong. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Well, anyway, a lot. My point being, a lot of people getting involved. Push teams get involved. Rick Ross came out with quite a funny diss track, which, again, like, a couple of people have been putting the two pens in, in the sense that Rick Ross's was a little bit. It was almost a bit lame because it was just like. Yeah, it was a bit. [00:20:43] Speaker B: But if you're, like, if you're not in the. If you're not in the main beef and you're trying to jump on, it's a bit sad because you kind of just jump on the hype and again. [00:20:50] Speaker A: And it's kind of giving Drake fuel because Drake's liking the fact that it's him against the world a little bit. [00:20:55] Speaker B: Listen, well, do you want to get into this now anyway? [00:20:57] Speaker A: Right, I'm getting carried away. [00:20:58] Speaker B: We can get into this. [00:20:59] Speaker A: Well, before we move off from music news, we were talking about Kid Cudi before. Did everybody see a kid cudi jumping off at Kushella? Jumping off the stage, busting his ankle? [00:21:08] Speaker B: I don't know what he was trying to do. [00:21:09] Speaker A: It wasn't even a stage dive, though. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Well, that's one hell of a stage to jump off. [00:21:12] Speaker A: It's at first. Fucking hell. Absolutely bashed his ankle up. [00:21:17] Speaker B: Silly Billy moves. [00:21:18] Speaker A: No, he's not playing in a World cup final ever again. [00:21:20] Speaker B: Was that his goal, was he wanted to play in a World cup? [00:21:23] Speaker A: Yeah, probably. Everybody does. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know what that was. [00:21:25] Speaker A: That was just a reference to myself. [00:21:26] Speaker B: Did he just start his show? But he can do a Dave Grohlo. And just do the rest of the. [00:21:30] Speaker A: Set on a chinese lego. [00:21:33] Speaker B: No, but also legend. But he just carried on playing guitar and sat down. But that's what you get. A few fights and he's got the. [00:21:37] Speaker A: Rest of the band. [00:21:38] Speaker B: He's got the rest of the band. When you're your whole. In rap performances. I've been to a lot of rap shows. The whole energy of the show is based on you moving. If you're stood still and playing, you're. [00:21:48] Speaker A: Gonna do that in a cast. Yeah, I guess so. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Bananas. I can't believe you actually would have done that. [00:21:56] Speaker C: Sorry, I had a clip. I just can't get into my. [00:21:58] Speaker B: That's fine. I'll be. It'll be played for Spotify listeners. Go and look up the clip because. Yeah, we'll have done. Oh, not surprised. [00:22:09] Speaker A: I actually went on tour a day after snapping my ACL. So. [00:22:12] Speaker B: Same. Same volume as well. [00:22:13] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:22:14] Speaker B: World tour. [00:22:15] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Hundreds of thousand people. [00:22:17] Speaker A: Anyway, I don't know if anybody cares, but my absolute. One of my favorite artists, Dominic fike, has released a visual album. Yes, he has. [00:22:25] Speaker B: Is it him building like shells and wood, like Frank Ocean's visual album? [00:22:28] Speaker A: I haven't watched it. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Never mind. [00:22:30] Speaker A: Because he then released on Spotify. Now listen to it instead. It's called 14 minutes. And I actually think, again, I mean, we're eating good because Dominic Feige didn't release anything for a while. Released an album last year, which, if you remember a couple, about a month or two ago, was one of my song of the week, because I didn't even know it was out. And we've got another one out. [00:22:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Shout out to him. How long is it? Seven tunes, eight songs, I think. [00:22:51] Speaker A: I thought it was longer than that, to be fair. [00:22:52] Speaker B: But is it actually 14 minutes? Because. [00:22:55] Speaker A: I don't know. Actually, that would be amazing. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Surely not. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Surely not 14 minutes. No, but the film is. The film is. The short film is obviously 40 minutes long. [00:23:04] Speaker B: What if every song is two minutes? [00:23:06] Speaker A: Then it could well be, you know, just. [00:23:08] Speaker B: Well, it'd have to be under two minutes, otherwise it'd be 60. [00:23:09] Speaker A: But anyway, I think Dominic Fark is such an underrated artist. [00:23:12] Speaker B: How old is he? He's probably not even your age. [00:23:14] Speaker A: I honestly think he's probably 25, tops. Yeah, I think so, too, because obviously he was in euphoria, so he was obviously supposed to be playing a teenager. [00:23:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:21] Speaker A: Which we'll get into. [00:23:22] Speaker B: 28. [00:23:23] Speaker A: 28. He's a young looking 28 year old. [00:23:25] Speaker B: He was born right after me. He was only born eight days after me. [00:23:28] Speaker A: Oh, forgot. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:28] Speaker A: You're a pensioner, you, aren't you? But anyway, Dominic. Fight. I'll fight to death. Very underrated artist. I don't think there's anyone like him. And he's very, very diversely talented as well as an actor. [00:23:40] Speaker B: What about Kid Blue? [00:23:41] Speaker A: Well, obviously Kid Blue's the goat. [00:23:43] Speaker C: I've got the clip. If you wanted to see the kid Cuddy clip. [00:23:45] Speaker A: Oh, please show the kid Cudi clip. Oh, bless him. [00:23:50] Speaker B: Why is he. [00:23:52] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:23:53] Speaker C: I kind of see it. [00:23:56] Speaker B: He's even. [00:23:57] Speaker A: He knows that he's. Oh, my God. His leg goes so far behind him. That is. That's triggering me. [00:24:05] Speaker C: Is he with time? [00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, and the forest Cortez as well. That's not a stable shoe. That's a shoe. [00:24:12] Speaker A: Oh, the irony that he's just mashed his legs up while wearing forest gump shoes. [00:24:16] Speaker B: The. My thing is that shoe was designed in, like, the sixties or something. That's a really old shoe that has no kid could. It's on the. It's on right in front of us. We've got a Cortez here. [00:24:27] Speaker A: Yeah. He jumped like such a middle aged man then, as well, bless him. I actually really like Kid Cudi, but that was embarrassing from before he even broke his leg. Yeah, look at him waddling down. [00:24:35] Speaker C: He's done acting as well, Kid Cudi, isn't he? [00:24:36] Speaker A: Yeah, he's in Doctor cup, isn't he? Kid Cudi? [00:24:40] Speaker C: Yeah, I think he did something else that was quite good. Is it booking nine nine? He did. [00:24:44] Speaker B: He hasn't been a book of nine nine, has he? [00:24:46] Speaker A: I think, Isabelle, maybe he is. [00:24:48] Speaker B: Is he. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Does he get arrested at some point and he's. [00:24:51] Speaker C: Yeah, they're against the clock, aren't they? It's that he was in prison and then he got his cellmate to do this, like, rubber jewelry store, but then they made it look like he did it, so they. [00:25:01] Speaker B: Oh, shit. [00:25:02] Speaker A: It's one of the newer ones at ralkie. [00:25:04] Speaker B: Rest in peace. Andre brought. Go. [00:25:07] Speaker A: Hashtag rip. [00:25:08] Speaker B: What show? What guy? [00:25:12] Speaker A: There was a moment of silence for Andre, bro. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Yeah, quick moment of silence. Thanks for sharing that with us. [00:25:16] Speaker C: I was just thinking about him. [00:25:20] Speaker A: We all just had to look at the recipes anyway. [00:25:24] Speaker B: Right? [00:25:24] Speaker A: Well, to be fair, we've got a lot of stuff we wanted to pick up on, but we are. Again, so much has happened. We've not even discussed the Deadpool Wolverine trailer. [00:25:32] Speaker B: We've not. We've not. And there's so much to go into. [00:25:35] Speaker A: There are we going to, like, should we discuss it and just. Just hold ourselves back a little bit? [00:25:42] Speaker B: We'll briefly go over it because we could talk. We could spend the whole episode doing. [00:25:46] Speaker A: Theories and before we were going to. [00:25:49] Speaker B: Also, if you're not a Marvel fan and you're listening to this, apologies that this is like the fourth episode in a row you've had to listen to Marvel news. [00:25:56] Speaker A: We're eating good. I'm sorry. It's been a while. Marvel's been shit and been really letting us down, and this is just. [00:26:01] Speaker B: This is gonna bring it on home. [00:26:02] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's so good. [00:26:03] Speaker B: We're gonna bring it on home. [00:26:05] Speaker A: So have you seen the new trailer splinter? [00:26:07] Speaker C: I have, yeah. [00:26:09] Speaker A: I had to watch it about four times. [00:26:11] Speaker B: I've watched it a couple times, then I went 0.5. Watched it slow mo, you know, Ollie Palmer for Rexams in the trailer. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I did see that. [00:26:18] Speaker B: He was in the background of the bar. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Yeah, he's in the background. [00:26:20] Speaker B: It's very hard to see it's even him. I think it was only just because it was announced it was him. Yeah, but he's in the back also looking at the cast for it. It's brilliant because this is definitely not. The cast is going to be ten x this many people. I don't even think TJ Miller's even in it. [00:26:33] Speaker A: But, yeah, spoiler alert, Owen Wilson looks like he's going to be in it in the TVA. We all kind of expected that anyway. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:38] Speaker A: So, yeah, actually, big spoiler alert. If anybody doesn't want to know what saber, Electra, Jennifer Garner. [00:26:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:43] Speaker A: Which obviously I love. [00:26:44] Speaker B: That was one of the first ones we found out was going to be in it. [00:26:46] Speaker A: I love how they've put her, but they've not put Ben Affleck's daredevil, whereas they go hand in hand. [00:26:50] Speaker B: They do. [00:26:51] Speaker A: So that means daredevil's going to be in it. You would think so wouldn't be Ben Affleck. [00:26:54] Speaker B: I respect Zazel from first class being it. That's a great character. [00:26:59] Speaker A: And to be fair, the thing is, what I think is perfect about this being a Deadpool film as well, is that the likes of Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner, and even against Chris Evans, not as Captain America but as Johnny Storm from Fantastic Four, is so perfect because Ryan Reynolds is just going to make so many jokes about that. Yeah, we're perfect for it because, again, like, we've got strange, multiverse and madness when we thought it was just going to be like, cameo, cameo cameo. Cameo. [00:27:23] Speaker B: If we had a podcast, that's so bad. Sad. Looking back and going, it's Tom Cruise playing superior. Iron man has to be. And we're all convinced of it. Or. Well, Daniel Craig was going to be Thor's older brother. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Oh, I did see. [00:27:36] Speaker B: And we did actually have shooting. I think it was because of COVID at the time. I think that he couldn't make it over to where they were shooting. [00:27:43] Speaker A: Well, to be fair, to be fair, we weren't completely chasing the wrong tree with Tom Cruise being Iron man. Very. Because he actually was supposed to be, but he just couldn't squirt because he was obviously, when they were doing the back to back Mission Impossible films, Tom Cruise was like one of the busiest men in Hollywood. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I just can imagine he's not got a lot of free time to go and shoot something for a while. [00:28:01] Speaker A: But, yeah, I think we're gonna get some really daft stuff in this and I just can't wait. I think the premise of the film is clearly we're gonna get a lot of scrapping in the. In the void. So I think anyone who hasn't, anyone who's given up with Marvel over the last few years, I don't blame you, but you're gonna have to watch debut. [00:28:15] Speaker C: In the whole Marvel. [00:28:16] Speaker A: It is in the MCU. Yeah, big time. [00:28:18] Speaker B: But the thing in that is, how are they getting there? Like, we see the poem, apart from who's opening it all, these are the characters coming through. We're not sure. They're just believing that he's going to keep doing this and having people come through. So just to comment, how are they getting. [00:28:31] Speaker A: We're all seeing that and thinking, oh, my God, it's going to be Doctor Strange. It's going to be fucking wongin it. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Let's be honest, I'd be happy with Wong. [00:28:38] Speaker C: Well, Miss Minutes has been casted. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:41] Speaker C: That makes you think that it could be down that. [00:28:44] Speaker A: Well, we know from the trailer that it is all very TVA. I actually do think that him coming into the MCU is actually gonna be one of the easiest bits because, let's be honest, even says in the trailer, TVA just gonna snatch him out. [00:28:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:56] Speaker A: And they're clearly gonna. [00:28:56] Speaker B: Because I'm Loki, they've set up really easily where it's not outrageous that he'd be able to do. [00:29:01] Speaker A: They go, look, shit has gone really badly wrong. [00:29:04] Speaker B: Yep. [00:29:05] Speaker C: Every jokes about it. [00:29:06] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. When he says on Marvel, Jesus, like, he says, I'm coming. He literally says to the TVA, he says, I'm here. I'm going to save your little Marvel cinematic universe. I am Marvel. Jesus. Which is obviously a reference to Iron man saying, I am Iron man as well. So just amazing. So, yeah, he's clearly just going to walk into the MCU and walk into other timelines. But so, obviously, as we're fairly certain, this is not our Wolverine. Well, obviously, the MCU doesn't have a Wolverine. [00:29:31] Speaker B: No, it's not 616. Well, it's not Fox universe Wolverine. [00:29:34] Speaker A: No, it's not Fox universe Wolverine. Well, then again, I'm gonna backtrack, because we didn't think we have an MCU WOlVErine. But one of the rumors I've seen is that basically because this Wolverine variant in this trailer looks like it's the Wolverine from, I think it's old man Logan comics, where he's basically been. I think it was MySTERIO has Put a little spell on him, and he. [00:29:55] Speaker B: Chefed up the whole ex mansion and. [00:29:56] Speaker A: He chefed up the whole ex mansion and ThoUght he was killing some villains. So he's basically let down his whole timeline and killed all the heroes. [00:30:02] Speaker B: That was my theory. Do you think that would be a really good way to go? [00:30:06] Speaker A: Because, again, they're all saying in the trailer, you let your timeline down, and obviously, he's super depressed and wants to kill himself, and he can't kill himself. But one fan rumor I've heard is that then he was. He got. Well, I don't know how he got there, but he's hiding in our 616 because she Hulk, even though it's shite. There was a little Easter egg saying that, man with claws and bars, a bar fight, which could be referenced to. Which could be referenced to even. Because then what people were saying is, you know, this beginning of the trailer, when the barman says, you're not welcome here, people are saying, oh, that could be because he's, like, famously killed all the Avengers and killed all the X Men, blah, blah, blah. It could also be because he's knocking up having bar fights left barred. Anyway, so there is a few things that that could be. So either way, this is not the wolverine we know, even. Hence the yellow suit, which Hugh Jackman came out this week and said it felt so. [00:30:55] Speaker B: Yeah. How have we not done it before? It looks so very valid. [00:30:58] Speaker C: No mask, though, right? [00:31:00] Speaker A: So. [00:31:00] Speaker B: Well, no, no, they're definitely doing the mask. [00:31:02] Speaker A: I think he's gonna put the mask on at some point, because he's a play where he rips. He rips the sleeves off as well, don't. [00:31:09] Speaker B: He'll do the mask. But I think you don't want to put a helmet on your star, because then you just go, what's now? It's a stuntman, or it removes all the emotion from it. [00:31:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:17] Speaker B: If you don't see his face, I think he'll first maybe get introduced to him before the bar fight, even possibly, because maybe when he's first seen that isn't their introduction, there might be a case where they scrap. [00:31:28] Speaker A: Well, also, where's he getting the other suit from if he's picked him up in the bar? Like. Yeah. To a tiny glimpse of a suit up montage from the tv. Deadpool. Adamantium. [00:31:39] Speaker B: Katanas. [00:31:40] Speaker A: Katanas. 100%. [00:31:42] Speaker B: Well, it's obviously a reference to John Wick, how when he goes to John Wick and then he suits him up and then he gets tailored, then he put the swords in. It's obviously meant to be like. And it'll for sure make a reference to me like, this is my John Wick moment. Do you know what I mean? So who knows? But as soon as the show. As soon as it comes out, the next episode will be an hour and a half of just that. [00:32:01] Speaker A: We're gonna watch the midnight showing. [00:32:03] Speaker B: We're 100% gone. Midnight. [00:32:04] Speaker A: Have you ever been to a midnight show in Splinter? [00:32:05] Speaker B: We'll go for this. We'll go for this. Doesn't matter what I'm doing next month. [00:32:08] Speaker A: Oh, mate. Yeah. I can expense it. Don't have the tax man knowing that. Expense man. [00:32:14] Speaker B: Patient listening to this podcast to try. [00:32:16] Speaker A: And catch you up. Yeah. Well, you'd be surprised, but we. I actually. When splinter, when Endgame came out, you. [00:32:24] Speaker C: Did the Infinity War. [00:32:24] Speaker A: You did a double. Yeah. And it was 6 hours. And honestly, it was like a breeze. It was brilliant. We had, like, a ten minute toilet trip. That was about it. Fantastic. Fantastic. So I cannot wait. I'm gonna be, like, losing my voice. It's gonna be like being at a football game. [00:32:39] Speaker C: We'll be screaming Deadpool two into. [00:32:43] Speaker A: I don't think they'll do a double one like that. [00:32:45] Speaker B: It might. [00:32:45] Speaker A: Maybe some of them probably will be like, midnight. It comes out, the film starts at midnight. [00:32:51] Speaker B: Be a whammed cinema. [00:32:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Which I will be at. [00:32:54] Speaker B: I will have a 20 quid kfc bucket in my bag. [00:32:58] Speaker A: I'm so excited. Like, I'm. If it's a Tuesday night, I'm sorry. I'll say who it is. [00:33:03] Speaker B: Doesn't matter what day. [00:33:04] Speaker A: The person I work for on a Wednesday that, you know. Leah. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Yeah. That's calm. [00:33:07] Speaker A: I ain't coming in. [00:33:07] Speaker B: She'll understand. [00:33:08] Speaker A: Hey, coming in. [00:33:09] Speaker B: Fine. [00:33:10] Speaker A: I ain't coming in. So one day in a week. I'm obliged to have a week. Day. [00:33:13] Speaker B: Do me favorite. Splinter. Deadpool. Three. Release date. [00:33:17] Speaker C: It's the UK. Is it of July? [00:33:22] Speaker B: What day? The week is? 20 July. I was gonna say 30 July. Well, there we go. We would have seen it by then. God, we would have seen it by then. We can't wait. [00:33:31] Speaker A: 26. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Oh, that's USA, though. Can you check. Check the calendar. What day of the week that is? [00:33:36] Speaker A: I honestly thought it was like the 6th. That's mud. [00:33:38] Speaker B: 25Th. [00:33:39] Speaker C: 25Th. [00:33:40] Speaker B: Hold on, I've got my iPad right in front of me. I'm just being lazy here. Oh, 25 July. Hold on. Hold the phone. [00:33:47] Speaker A: Hold the phone. 25 July is a touristy Thursday for touristy. And you're looking after. You know that we don't forget. [00:33:56] Speaker B: That's perfect. [00:33:57] Speaker A: Shout out, Phoebe. [00:33:59] Speaker B: Right. Sick. Well, should we get on to everything else we got to go through? Almost nervous before we do, to get you going, two things I want you to do. [00:34:08] Speaker A: Okay. [00:34:08] Speaker B: You've got a question. One of the question I'll ask both you. [00:34:11] Speaker A: But one of his thought provoking question. [00:34:13] Speaker C: I was literally just. [00:34:14] Speaker B: I didn't think he. I didn't actually think he had one because I think we. Okay, before that, we'll go through thought provoking. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Should we do it? [00:34:19] Speaker B: Provoking question of the week. [00:34:20] Speaker A: This is usually supposed to be our warm up, but I've actually been enjoying this segment, so. [00:34:23] Speaker C: Yes. [00:34:24] Speaker A: Come on then, Splinter. What is your thought provoking question for us? [00:34:26] Speaker C: My question of the week is if you could collaborate with one artist. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Oh, shit. [00:34:31] Speaker C: Who has passed away and one artist that is alive. Who are those two artists? [00:34:34] Speaker A: So I get two different answers. [00:34:35] Speaker B: Screw me, then. Am I in this universe? I'm an artist as well. [00:34:38] Speaker A: Pretend you're an artist. [00:34:39] Speaker B: Calm. So one passed away, one who's living. Carry on some you can. [00:34:42] Speaker A: That's the perfect question for that, because I would have really struggled to split up. [00:34:47] Speaker B: Hmm. [00:34:47] Speaker A: So passed away. I'm actually gonna not go for a cliche, because I do think. I think the likes of Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury, you'd be out of your depth. [00:34:57] Speaker B: You wouldn't be able to perform. You'd be too nervous. [00:35:01] Speaker A: I was offended for a second, but. [00:35:02] Speaker B: Then I was like, aura. His aura alone. You wouldn't be able to perform. He'd be like, michael, oh, my gosh. I'm not even gonna tell the truth. [00:35:09] Speaker A: Yeah, the listeners don't need to know what that happened, though. [00:35:11] Speaker B: Carry on. [00:35:12] Speaker A: Can we visual bleed. Visual sensor. Anyway, but besides the fact I'd be well out my depth and I do think that Freddie Mercury and Michael Jackson are probably two of the only artists that could reinvent themselves, probably Bowie as well, that could still reinvent themselves to this day. But anyway, I'm going to say Matt Miller. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:29] Speaker A: Because I think collab with myself with Matt Miller would actually work. [00:35:32] Speaker C: It would. [00:35:34] Speaker A: And I love Matt Miller so much, man. I have a Matt Miller tattoo on my leg which you can't see. [00:35:40] Speaker C: Really. [00:35:41] Speaker A: It is what it is till it ain't. Your sister did it. [00:35:43] Speaker B: She did. [00:35:45] Speaker A: Mashed my leg up anyway. And alive. See, that's a tough one. I'm actually going to say Tyler, the creator. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah, spell it. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Because the thing is, he won't show up. He won't show up for 01:00 today. [00:36:00] Speaker B: Are you still coming? No answer. [00:36:01] Speaker A: No answer. I would love Frank and I'd obviously love Kanye west, but, like, Kanye west as much as he, Kanye west does a lot of features and they don't actually all do that well, whereas Tyler doesn't drop a feature on anybody. Do you know what I mean? And Tyler is actually like, oh, he's just such a fucking. So sick. [00:36:18] Speaker B: Tyler and Mac are great choices that. [00:36:21] Speaker A: Would blow me up big time. I'm happy with that. I'll take them. I would never make music again. I'd be happy. [00:36:26] Speaker B: You would have to. You've completed it. [00:36:28] Speaker A: Yeah. If I could be in a room with Mac Miller and Tyler Crater and honestly, never, never have to do music again. They're my goats. [00:36:35] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good goat. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Taking it. [00:36:36] Speaker C: They're great. [00:36:37] Speaker A: So you as not a musician. [00:36:38] Speaker B: Mine would be as naughty musician. In this hypothetical world, I am. No, I'm doing in this world, I'm a musician. I am a rapper in this thing. I'm a rapper in this hypothetical world. But the kind of rap is my favorite kind of rap, which is nineties, east Coast. East coast boom bat. And it has to be with my earliest music memory ever. And the dead and alive both come the same one. Fife dog from tribe called Quest, who's now died, and Q Tip, who is alive together. [00:37:10] Speaker A: Reunion. [00:37:11] Speaker B: Reunion. Liam Maloney. [00:37:13] Speaker A: Is that. It's not a little bit of a waste, though, because you could have probably. [00:37:17] Speaker B: Included what I could have gone, like, someone in this hypothetical world and had someone who's died on. On my track anyway. But a lot of my favorite rappers are still alive. Like, sure, I can get biggie OPAc or whatever. But a lot of the rest of them are quiet, are still living. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:32] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean? Who else? [00:37:34] Speaker A: Very interesting. [00:37:35] Speaker B: Big pun. So, actually, that would be mine. [00:37:38] Speaker A: We'll move on, then, because we're a bit short on time. What else did you want us to do? Because I don't know if we're gonna have time for it. [00:37:43] Speaker C: Quentin Tarantino's drops the movie crate. [00:37:47] Speaker A: That would normally be great. Big news. [00:37:49] Speaker B: But everything else is a clip. Before we did, though, I did actually have a question wanted to run by both of you. Anyway. Okay, the question is, would you rather a million right now or 50% off every purchase for the rest of your life? Have a thing? [00:38:04] Speaker C: I thought you were gonna bring up that little slug that follows your aran. [00:38:06] Speaker B: No, not that one. That was. Been overdone. The slugs. A good one, though, also. I'm taking it. Let that slug chase me. Calm. [00:38:13] Speaker A: I honestly, the more I think about it, I think it's actually a really easy answer, and it's the million. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Okay, now you've done it wrong already, because. No, you've done it wrong. Go on. [00:38:21] Speaker A: You can make. [00:38:21] Speaker B: You blitz that a million so quick, Sam. [00:38:24] Speaker C: You would. [00:38:24] Speaker B: You would blitz that a million. Make money when you spend 20 bags on one keyboard and straight away and go ram. [00:38:30] Speaker A: Still good for the rest of everything. Don't have any fucking money anyway. [00:38:34] Speaker B: Sam, buy a yard. Sell it full price. You've already made your. [00:38:37] Speaker A: How am I gonna buy a yard? You've got no fucking money. [00:38:39] Speaker B: You've got no money. [00:38:40] Speaker A: 50% off. I don't have it. [00:38:44] Speaker B: No, but the 50%, though, has got so much more capability, because Sam, first thing, chat GBT. I've just been. Got 50% off every purchase for life. What is the best way for me to maximize this finance going forward? You buy, sell full price. Buy, sell price. [00:38:59] Speaker A: And quickly invest in. With a million. [00:39:01] Speaker C: Do you know what it is? [00:39:02] Speaker B: What do you invest in, then? [00:39:03] Speaker A: I don't know. I'll ask chat GBT, explain. [00:39:07] Speaker C: To say that the issue that doesn't work with Sam is because Sam would know. He would have a million right there, but he'd have to wait all of his time to see the profit from the 50%. [00:39:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:18] Speaker C: If Sam saw a briefcase, he needs it. [00:39:20] Speaker B: He needs it right now. [00:39:22] Speaker C: He'd be ruined. [00:39:23] Speaker A: Of course he would have been of the. Of the idea that if I ever win the lottery, obviously, depends how much money it is. Half of it is going in investment, and half of it, I am pissing up the wall. [00:39:34] Speaker B: This is the problem. Do you see what I mean? He's 500. He's already 500 g's down because he's just. He's just whammed it. [00:39:40] Speaker A: Yeah, but I'm gonna go buy cars and shit. I'm gonna buy, like, a house, another studio. Like, I'm gonna buy things that I'm not gonna just go and buy, like, 500 pairs of expensive shoes. [00:39:50] Speaker B: Or you could have it for idiot price, Sam. From this get go half price of. [00:39:54] Speaker A: Me having no money is still not helpful. [00:39:57] Speaker B: No, you play fair. [00:39:58] Speaker C: I would like. I'm like, Sam. [00:40:00] Speaker B: No, but for the one. [00:40:01] Speaker A: I don't have any money. [00:40:02] Speaker C: Having a million pound, just, like, I'd put so, so much away for. Yeah, but I'd have, like, for a million. [00:40:08] Speaker A: You say this for a million at our age, right? 950 grand could go in investment, and I'd still live off 50 grand for three years. I mean, I've probably not made 50 grand in the last five years. [00:40:22] Speaker C: Probably never made 50. [00:40:23] Speaker A: Exactly. So this is my point. A million quid. People from. People don't understand what. [00:40:28] Speaker C: They don't know how big of a number a million actually is until they've seen a breed. [00:40:31] Speaker A: Exactly. 990,000 pounds could go straight into making me more money. And I'd still be like, oh, my God. Ten. [00:40:39] Speaker B: Mm. On this, though, the version I saw on TikTok, someone said, ten m's or 50%. If it's ten, I'll take the ten. That's fine. [00:40:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Ten M's, that feels appropriate. But one, even though. Yeah, it's a catastrophic amount of money life changing, I'm still. I'm honestly probably gonna take even less fits. Decide now. Maybe. [00:41:00] Speaker A: Just take the money. [00:41:01] Speaker B: No, honestly. But it's the same thing where if I won the lottery, I'm still doing my job for a little bit while I'm taking my time, I'm not doing. I'm not racing. [00:41:10] Speaker A: People don't realize it's forever, but they might have people. [00:41:13] Speaker B: They might have people. You see in those stories where bin man wins two ams and he goes and pisses all the wall, and in four years, he's back being a bin man. I had a sick time, but I'm back being a bin man. I got nothing to show for it. Well, I'm trying to do longevity. You get me? [00:41:26] Speaker A: That's true. That's true. [00:41:27] Speaker B: I'm not trying to just rinse it. So I'm taking my first thing. Hello, financial advising services? Can I get someone down to my yard, please? And then gather to, you know, pay them as well. I go, listen, I have this magical spell where everything I get is 50% off, including your services. You're getting 50% of this cut? [00:41:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Do you know how much finance. [00:41:46] Speaker B: Tell me how to maximize this. What? [00:41:48] Speaker A: A lot of money. A financial advisor. So how much? [00:41:50] Speaker B: They're not a million quid. So I guess I'm all right. [00:41:52] Speaker A: Well, I still can't ask. Honestly, if I was 40 years old, well established in my life, and I had some savings, maybe, or I'd like at least built some capital, then I'd probably be going for the 50%. But at the age of 25, 50% off anything I need in my life right now. [00:42:10] Speaker C: You got teaming. [00:42:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:12] Speaker B: 50% off teaming. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:42:14] Speaker B: Yeah, Sam. [00:42:15] Speaker A: 50% off teaming. I'll take it. [00:42:16] Speaker B: Sam, you're about to go to Cyprus again. [00:42:19] Speaker A: Everything is 50%. That was fucking 40 lira to the pound. [00:42:22] Speaker B: That 40 lira is about to go to 80 to the pound. [00:42:26] Speaker A: Yeah. But I still have the same amount of spends. I might. It might get me the same. It might get me twice as far. But it's not a million quid. [00:42:33] Speaker B: You have double the spends. [00:42:34] Speaker A: Yeah. What, so 400 quid instead of 200 quid? [00:42:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:37] Speaker A: That's like. That's not life changing. It's not life changing. [00:42:41] Speaker B: I disagree. [00:42:43] Speaker A: We've now got 20 minutes left to discuss the most insane period of hip hop history. [00:42:48] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Go on, then. Let's carry on. Let's get to it. Fuck. Let's get to it. [00:42:51] Speaker A: Right, okay. Quick timeline then. So we've already established in a previous episode, first person shooter mode came out with Kendrick. Sorry. With J. Cole and Drake. And what I actually heard from. I forgot his name. But a very popular podcaster who knows the producer for the first person shooter mode, apparently they actually shouted Kendrick Lamar for that tune. [00:43:11] Speaker B: Oh, that would have been good because. [00:43:12] Speaker A: The idea was it to be the big three. And Kendrick Lamar said, I'm not working with Drake. And that is why Drake. That's why Drake was like, whoa. So anyway, so that came out. And then, like, that came out. Metro booming. And that was. We've obviously already discussed that. That was Kenshin the Mars. [00:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:27] Speaker A: There ain't no big three. They just big me or something like that. [00:43:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Anyway, so then I believe. Was it Taylor made freestyle? No, push ups came out first, didn't it? Which is a diss tracker, basically coming. Drake going at the whole hip hop community because the likes of Rick Ross came out. Kanye hadn't come out at that point. But anyway, people were piping up, and then we come to tailor made freestyle, which was. Was that the one where he did the AI voice of two Pac? [00:43:53] Speaker B: Yep. [00:43:53] Speaker A: So. Which was, like, very offensive to Kendrick because Kendrick is famously like, die hard two Pac, die hard two Pac fan. And that actually got tucked down. And as we've heard, it was Kendrick who got in touch with two packs estate and got that pulled down. So that was all mad. And then I believe that's where we get to Kendrick releasing Euphoria. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Euphoria is the kickoff point for everything else that's happened, because it's just been one after another after another. [00:44:16] Speaker A: I believe there was. I think it was 18 days. It was nearly a three week period where Kendrick hadn't come back and Drake was going, aha, ba ba ba. This guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. Because Drake was firing stuff out and obviously trying to tackle the whole world on. But Kendrick comes back with euphoria. Kendrick comes back with euphoria. And it is a six minute diss track, and it is. Okay, history of the Kendrick baby. Perfect, right? Okay, so we're right. We're actually. Oh, no. We'll backtrack a little bit, because what we skipped is the J. Cole. So J. Cole released his seven minute drill after Kendrick's like that verse, which is dissing Kendrick big time, which was a big shot, because we thought those two were boys. [00:44:55] Speaker B: They were, and I think they are, because they obviously feel some way about it by going, I'm out of this. I respect you. I should be tearing you down. [00:45:02] Speaker A: I honestly think it could be a million reasons why J. Cole dipped out. And obviously, he's looking like a very smart man right now. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. He didn't want to be involved. J. Cole also, a three way beef is difficult. [00:45:11] Speaker A: It's not the same, is it? [00:45:12] Speaker B: It needs to be a direct one, back and forth, isn't it? [00:45:14] Speaker A: J. Cole's seven minutes reel was quite out of character. I was very personal to Drake. And was it his Dreamville festival? [00:45:23] Speaker B: Dreamville Festival. [00:45:24] Speaker A: On stage, he says, this isn't me. I'm not about that life. I don't want that kind of negativity in my life. I've got respect for Kendrick Lamar, blah, blah, blah. And he pulled it down on four streaming platforms, and everyone was going, right, okay, well, loads of people call him, first of all. And then now, like I said, he's looking like a very smart man because J. Cole's going, Kendrick, I'm really sorry, bro. I don't want any of this. I don't want this smoke. I don't want this smoke. And he's quite right because he doesn't want. If he's all about, you know, J. Cole is very. A very Zen man. [00:45:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:55] Speaker A: He does not want that in his life. So then we get to Drake's push ups and tailor made freestyle. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Kendrick comes back with euphoria. Euphoria. Now, honestly, when we were emergency booking this episode. Yeah, it was going to basically be euphoria. [00:46:07] Speaker B: It was just euphoria. [00:46:08] Speaker A: And then I watched so much stuff breaking down that song, you could spend. I mean, there was a guy that was. It was up to part four of ten minute parts of him breaking down euphoria. And he was like, I honestly have not even slept. And then he dropped 616 in LA. This guy was like, honestly, please just stop, everyone. [00:46:28] Speaker C: Because we were talking about doing a pod on, what, like Wednesday or Thursday. [00:46:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:31] Speaker C: Literally released four. [00:46:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:32] Speaker C: Since then. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:34] Speaker A: Released two this weekend. [00:46:35] Speaker B: No. Released four albums in ten years. [00:46:37] Speaker A: So, honestly. So basically, Kendrick's euphoria, what we mentioned beforehand was. So a lot of people, I think it was the producer, or at least people that know Kendrick, a big tweet came out when everyone was going mad at Euphoria and going, oh, my God, six minutes. And this tweet came out was like, six minutes. I heard an 18 minutes. [00:46:54] Speaker B: Wild. [00:46:55] Speaker A: So what I was thinking was, maybe the reason Kendrick scattered these releases out. Maybe he split up that 18 minutes. But now I'm starting to think not. So, because we heard. See, this is. This timeline that we've got on the screen isn't even up to date. Because after meet the Grahams, he's released not like us this morning. This morning, early hours this morning. [00:47:12] Speaker C: Which is actually 11 hours ago. [00:47:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is actually handpicking responses to Drake's family matters. So I actually think maybe not. But even Drake's probably just not left the fucking studio. [00:47:23] Speaker B: This, and the thing on this is Drake has confused the beef with who can make the best song contest, which has worked previously when he did back to back years ago. Barry Meek Mill. Big, big, massive tune. And he's confused and gone. If I make the best song, that'll win family matters I've listened to a thousand times. It is such a banger. The beats are mint. But the thing is, he's not what Kendrick did. And the way that rap biz are deciding the winner, it's entirely up to the audience because it's arbitrary. It's not a point based system. It's up to us as an audience to listen, go, who was better? And Kendrick, instead of doing what Drake did. I've listened to family matters several times, and I have to listen carefully because he's spitting so quick and drilling all these bars that are really specific. [00:48:05] Speaker A: He's still focusing on everybody else. [00:48:07] Speaker B: But the point is, though, that he's saying it so quick and he's not delivering where Kendrick BPM, pull it right back. And he's slowly saying, this is why your mum's dead. This is why your son's got the, this is why you're this and that. This is why you're a, this is why you're. [00:48:20] Speaker A: I'm hoping TikTok doesn't understand. [00:48:22] Speaker B: So he's played it. He's played it dumb, though, where he's gone. How can I do this? I need to make the best tune possible to bury him. Not the method he needs. And he's also doing personal hits that only Kendrick would know, which is dumb. So he's doing it. He's talking about your uncle, this and that. I don't know who his uncle is, and I'm a Darrell Kendrick fan. Kendrick is talking about obvious days, times, place facts, also, just to speak on it. So the first one you see the, it's either moncler or it's maybach. The glove that's in the thingy. [00:48:53] Speaker A: OJ is gloved, isn't it? [00:48:54] Speaker B: No, no, it's not even that. [00:48:55] Speaker A: It's not that. I know what it is. [00:48:56] Speaker B: So this, we're pulling out now. Is Kendrick saying that I've, when he says, I've got people in ovo. This is Drake's wardrobe that he's pulled this from. And the picture of the next one he does, when it's zoomed out with the shirt, it's got the ozempic bottle. It's got Drake's prescription on it. He's basically said, I have a picture you would recognize. He'd go, that's my glove. The next picture is zoomed out of the same image, and it's Drake's prescription. It's Drake's clothes, Drake's stuff. So he's basically saying, I'm in your wardrobe. So then that's why the last one where it's not his wardrobe. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Hold on. Drake's uncle stuff. [00:49:31] Speaker B: Hold on. No, they said this. And I think it's just trying to bury the fact that it is him, because when he does the last one that came out this morning with Drake's house with a lot of pins, in it, he's saying, I have people in your yard. Because what if there's a better way that if I'm beefing with Splinter and he has a picture, he puts on his diss track for Liam Maloney's got dead trim, whatever. And the picture is my wardrobe, and something of mine, and I go, my house is compromised. Now. Ovio's compromised because he's got people in there. And the full picture of FMIT, the Grahams, is Drake's items and stuff. [00:50:03] Speaker A: And again, I can't remember which track it's off because my heads are mashed with all these four diss tracks. But Kendrick literally had a bar, didn't he? Where he was like, did you ever think that Ovo was working for me? Yeah. Cause he's obviously. And obviously, Drake's always been paranoid. [00:50:15] Speaker B: Yeah. That he's got people in his camp, which he evidently does, because he's got a lot of people in his payroll. And it makes total sense now. He's done that. And even though Kendrick's saying, bring your daughter out, and Drake's part of his story, like, I don't really talk, who's this daughter of mine? [00:50:28] Speaker A: But he also said, just before we came on, Drake said, if anyone can find this daughter, I quit rapping right now. But honestly, I know I'm obviously Kendrick Byers. You fucking would say that, wouldn't you? [00:50:39] Speaker B: You would. [00:50:39] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? Like, he's not gonna go, oh, you won't. You got me. People admit defeating this beef right now. I have a daughter. [00:50:45] Speaker B: People don't know, though, that rap lyrics do not hold up in court and defamation. If I make a public statement and I say, you're this and that, and Adele's got this, and she, whatever, kills people, then she can do me for defamation on a public forum. But if I write in a song, adele's chefing up people. Adele's not doing any of this. I'm not calling Adele out. No, it has no bearing. So he can say, you were born a woman. Your mom's your dad, your dad's your mom. [00:51:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:10] Speaker B: You've got. You've got three daughters hidden in the closet. He can do that with no legal bearing whatsoever because it's all just in a song, because it's considered just art. But the average person listening going, hold on, Drake's got a daughter. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't. Is he a bit of a. Probably? Yes. So again, this is the thing that he can. It's a win win for Kenji because he's saying things that are true and things that might not be true, but either way, if the public believes it, it might be true. [00:51:37] Speaker A: Spreading that doubt, isn't it? [00:51:37] Speaker B: He's spreading that doubt. [00:51:39] Speaker A: And the thing is, I think we're, what I've absolutely loved about it all is that, like you were talking before about with Drake, Drake's biggest, like, insecurity is. And again, I'm going to be careful what I say here because it's easy for me as an english white person to be saying this, but the whole thing in the hip hop community is that a lot of people have been saying Drake doesn't belong there because he's canadian. [00:52:00] Speaker B: Yeah. And he's mixed. Yeah. [00:52:03] Speaker A: And that's what they're saying, obviously. And, like, rick Ross is, like, rick Ross's little diss track that was actually quite hilarious was basically just about Drake not even being a black man. But anyway, and Drake's always been. And obviously loads of these bars that Kendrick's been ripping out are just like, we don't even want to hear you say the n word. Like, you've used this rapper for your swag. You've used this rapper for this blah, blah, blah, blah. And obviously, and Drake was dissing Kendrick for doing, like, features with fucking imagine dragons, Taylor Swift and Kendrick Lamar's come back with, I'm gonna. How many black features features do you need to do before you feel black enough? [00:52:37] Speaker B: It's a perfect report. [00:52:38] Speaker A: When you were talking about the fact that Drake's tunes, push ups and family matters are two good songs. [00:52:44] Speaker B: Great songs, but that's what makes the best rap song. [00:52:48] Speaker A: And Kenshin Lamar, all three beats on. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Family Mars are cold. I would listen to this unironically if it wasn't a rap beef. But it's not about who makes the best song, it's who puts the most. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Kendrick Lamar has stepped up, and in all of the bars, he's saying the same thing. He's like, you can try as hard as you want. I own hip hop culture. And every single, apart from euphoria, which has got some mad beat switches, meet the Grams, which is my favorite, is just a pretty dark, like, spine tingling, nineties ish hip hop beat. And again, someone said, like, thank you to Drake because Kendrick is rapping over soul beats again. [00:53:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:20] Speaker A: Like, yeah. And he's just. No hooks, no chorus, just straight hatred. But on this hatred straight into Drake's face, and he's just not ready for it. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Someone posted a DM that they got from Jake, who's like, a producer, whatever. And said, have you. Have you pushed it yet? Have you pushed the button yet? He said. And he went, I'm nowhere near it. Yeah, I'm gonna do it. So I'd say hold tight. Cause I don't know what Kendrick's got Drake's got on him, but I think he might do the same and just lie and be like. Cause he called him out saying that he's beating his woman and that kind of stuff and talk about on family. [00:53:49] Speaker A: Matters because the whole point. [00:53:51] Speaker B: But he said he's got crisis. [00:53:52] Speaker A: Him and his wife are still happy. [00:53:53] Speaker B: No, he said he's got crisis management team. And he said, why have you not wifed her yet? You've been with her all this time and they thought you were going to. But to go on family matters. [00:54:01] Speaker C: Can you find pick some lyrics specifically if you go to want to go about it? [00:54:06] Speaker A: See, honestly, we were struggling with this a little bit because, yeah, we had my favorite bars for you, for you on lock. And there's been another 20 minutes of rap. No. [00:54:14] Speaker B: Can you go through to family matters first, then go to just do control f big three or seven three? Because he says a line about this. You're right about. There's no big three. It's just big D. Yeah, yeah, the big three. It's only big D. And there's video proofs. Oh, no, that's something else you're right about. Yeah, he said, you're right about fuck the big three. It's just big d. So he's saying, you know what? You're right, Kendrick. There isn't a big free. It's just big me. Now that J. Cole's bowed out, now that I'm against you, it's only me. And then if he says about the black and the berry, the sweet of the juice, we get the gin and your juice. And he's obviously talking about his lines in Teapab. So he's used a lot of his own lyrics. And he says, why have you not gone and planted money trees in Compton? So he said a lot of bars that are hard, but because he's doing it so quick, people are not catching it unless you're a big Kendrick fan. [00:55:00] Speaker A: I honestly just don't think it's a scratch on what Kendrick's coming at him with. And again, because we're talking about hip hop diss tracks, and there's such a culture behind what Drake is missing. The point of which, again, is almost supporting Kendrick's point is that Drake is too focused on being a pop artist. And I was looking before, like, the whole reason some of this beef even started is like, Drake dominates the charts, dominates the streaming, and that's what he. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Tried to do here. [00:55:26] Speaker A: And Kendrick releases dam, which isn't even his best album, Pulitzer Prize award. Yeah, it's nothing. But at the end of the day, Drake is dropping what he thinks he's beef. I mean, obviously the whole joke's been like, one of his, one of the first things he came at Kendrick was. And then push ups was like, oh, you got small feet. [00:55:41] Speaker B: That size seven's feeling heavy now, isn't it? This size seven feels like a size twelve. [00:55:45] Speaker A: Exactly. There's been so many memes about like, oh, have you seen that one I sent you? Where it was, this guy was like, oh, Kendrick, you got, you got size 7ft, you got small feet. I hope Kendrick comes back with some light hearted, like, you know, friendly daddy coming back. And he's like, you're a nonce. I hate you. [00:55:59] Speaker B: I hate the way that you walk. I hate the way that you suck. [00:56:02] Speaker A: You deserve the same fate as Harvey Weinstein. [00:56:06] Speaker B: Rotten a jail. [00:56:06] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Like, Kendrick's just come. And I think it must have been euphoria. Kendrick was like, I am not even scratching the surface. You should probably lay off now because. And then he relays back to the heart part four, doesn't it? When it's like, you know, don't tell no lie about me and I won't tell no truth about you. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:21] Speaker A: The thing is, at the end of the day, Drake is very clearly involved in some very, very, very dodgy stuff. And if we're talking Illuminati, you know, Illuminati still. [00:56:30] Speaker B: But this mean, if he wants to go down that route, I think he's, Kendrick's probably cautious because he's then going against a whole infrastructure and then it's dangerous, though. But no, but I get that. But how can he not in it? He's not. But how can he then guarantee his safety? Because, you know, it'll be the case, you know, you see, the second whistleblower for Bowen just came out. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Sorry. That line dementia must run in his family, but let it get shaky. I'll park his son. [00:56:56] Speaker B: See, I'm sorry, like, outrageous. [00:56:58] Speaker A: The quadruple entendres that Kendrick's been dropping, it's well out of Drake's lead. The thing is, and what I actually think is quite ironic is, and again, like I say, I'm obviously team Kendrick. And again, team Kendrick. Team Kendrick. Everyone looking, team Kendrick. I've brought my receipts. My receipts. Right. I think this has brought some of Drake's best bars out. [00:57:20] Speaker B: It has. Because he's had to really work. [00:57:22] Speaker A: Drake's stuff that he's come out with in responses b has been some of the best rapping ability I've heard Drake do. And it's just not a scratch. I'm sorry. [00:57:28] Speaker B: No, it's not. [00:57:29] Speaker A: And we've, and again, like Kendrick, I mean, I feel like we're just word babbling with it, but I've kind of got to get it all out. Like Drake was caught buying bots to tweet that he was winning the beef. [00:57:42] Speaker B: That's weak. [00:57:43] Speaker A: And Kendrick call him out. [00:57:44] Speaker B: But this is what we said, that this is, that beefs are entirely won in comments and thingy because you go to be released. What's the comment? What's the general consensus? People say? And then they go, Kendrick, hold this. L. Whatever. Oh, Drake's on top. Ovo gang, whatever. And then obviously finding out that loads of these are just, and it's easy enough done that he can drop not even a couple thousand and he can pay for thousands of comments under every post going, drake on top. And then people get that mass herd mentality of, well, I guess Drake won. [00:58:13] Speaker A: Then, because Drake's been releasing so much music in the last twelve months and Kendrick's diss tracks have broken the Internet. Yeah, that's the point. Kelsey drops whenever he wants. And he dropped him saying, you better. [00:58:24] Speaker B: Walk around like daftbug. Him saying like, you better have a helmet on. [00:58:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:27] Speaker B: You better have a head covering because it's gonna get. [00:58:30] Speaker A: Yeah, but so to be fair, about the Drake Instagram bots, I actually believe this purely because I said to Liam Splinter that when Kendrick first dropped euphoria, you know, complex, complex music, they dropped a poll on who was winning the beef. [00:58:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:46] Speaker A: And Drake was like 75% winning. And I was like, not a, just. [00:58:51] Speaker B: After Kendrick, just after euphoria. [00:58:53] Speaker A: Right. And every comment was like, release this poll because it's not true. Release this poll. It's not true. And a day later, they redid the poll and Kendrick swamped it. [00:59:02] Speaker B: Yeah, it's so obvious. But this, I mean, he's cheating. And I assume that he's going to call that out on further ones, but I imagine in the next couple of days, Kendrick, Drake will, as he said, push the button. But what else is he going to say? Like, I don't know what else he. [00:59:15] Speaker A: Could possibly be getting a bit confused with it. But isn't there a bar when Kendrick's like, I'm sorry that you didn't find anything when you were digging for me. [00:59:20] Speaker B: Yeah. He said, I'm a boring person. He said, sorry I'm a boring person. There's nothing that you said. You put your money out on the streets to find some info, and, you know, it's done. Nothing. [00:59:29] Speaker A: So this is the updated one. [00:59:30] Speaker B: But this is even euphoria and push ups, which are not even the two best songs from either of them, though. [00:59:34] Speaker A: No. Yeah, agree. [00:59:35] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean? [00:59:35] Speaker A: I agree. But. And again, I think it's in euphoria. But one of my favorite bars, when Kendrick was saying, you know, in response to Drake saying, he's not replying quick enough, it's like, you think that rap shit's my whole life. No, I've got a son to raise. You don't know nothing about that. [00:59:52] Speaker B: Oh, but this. I mean. Cause he did that after. And he did a letter to his son to raise. [00:59:58] Speaker A: Why would I call around trying to get dirt on people? You think all my life is rap? That's hoeshit. I got a son to raise. But I can see you don't know nothing about that. And then obviously, in, like, meet the Grahams and stuff. Oh, mate, I'm so upset. Splinter, you haven't heard meet the Grahams, because meet the Grahams is the one where he writes a letter to his son. Writes a letter to Drake's son and. [01:00:17] Speaker B: His mum and his dad, who said, I'm sorry. He said, I'm sorry. He calls her out by name, Sandy. He says, sandra, you raised a horrible son and a horrible person, all that kind of stuff. [01:00:26] Speaker A: And he says, drake deserves to be unalive. [01:00:29] Speaker B: Let him read this while we're going through this. So I think the point of this. [01:00:32] Speaker A: Was that I have to read that first line. So just for people who aren't really as arsed, like Kendrick Lamar writing a song that is literally broken down letters to his opponent's young son and even says, read this when you're 18. His mother and his father. The opening line, dear Adonis, who's Drake's son? I'm sorry that that man is your father. Let me be honest. Takes a man to be a man. Your dad is not responsive. I look at him and wish your grandpa wore a condom. [01:00:59] Speaker B: Wild. But this is the thing, right? So, same as with any of that. [01:01:03] Speaker A: Disrespectful. [01:01:04] Speaker B: Same as with any of the TikTok clips we do. You have to hook straight away in the first few seconds. You don't lost them and Drake. All of Drake's best bars about Kendrick were all minutes into this song. Six minute song. Kendrick's done first line, or they're fast and I can't get to it. But straight from the first bar, he's saying, sorry, that, man. You're not your father. Immediately as an audience member, you're grabbed. [01:01:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:25] Speaker B: So he's just thinking so much more clearly. So I assume if Drake's not the biggest donut, he should have his. His big gun. His biggest hit should be the opening line of whatever his next tune is. Do you know what I mean? [01:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Fucking crazy. [01:01:37] Speaker B: I don't know what they're gonna do. [01:01:38] Speaker A: There's so much. Did you see the devil let a man piss on your leg, son? [01:01:41] Speaker B: I did see that. [01:01:43] Speaker A: Do you know what I was referenced to then? [01:01:44] Speaker B: Is it for. [01:01:45] Speaker A: So there's. It was a leak that somebody. Well, with all the dodgy, dodgy, dodgy stuff that's going on with the likes of tough daddy and meek Mills and stuff like that, Drake let somebody pee on him in a nightclub as part of some weird sex thing. [01:02:01] Speaker B: Be humiliation ritual. [01:02:03] Speaker A: Humiliation ritual. And Kendrick's coming out. So let me be your mentor since your daddy don't teach you shit. Never let a man piss on your leg, son. Either you die right there or pop that man in the head, son. It's just mad. But, I mean, if. I mean, if you scroll down, you can have a read anyway. But, like, some of the stuff he's saying, it's pure, pure hatred. And he's literally coming out these literally lines where he's saying, drake deserves to die. To literally be unalived. [01:02:27] Speaker B: We call that for being pick as well. Getting his nose done. [01:02:31] Speaker A: And he's talking about wild. Drake's had liposuction and put fake abs in. [01:02:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:35] Speaker A: You know, he's involved in trafficking and escort services, his gambling addictions. And he's all just being like, you know, I've not even scratched the bar really, as well. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Apart from him saying that the hundred people, he said that 100 people, they all say, you deserve this. 20 of them want you to be a casualty. So basically, they want you to die. And the point of them saying that, I've not only got people in Ovo, but I know firsthand they said, you deserve this. You need to die. [01:03:04] Speaker A: It's ridiculous that your son's a sick man with sick thoughts. I think people like him should die. Oh, my God. Him and Weinstein should get fucked up in a cell for the rest of their life. So and again, this is the whole point. Kendrick Lamar is playing 4d chess. The song euphoria. Do you know what that's in reference to, then? Splinter. Drake is an executive producer on the show euphoria, which is obviously about children, well, underage teenagers having sex and taking drugs. [01:03:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a little bit suspicious, isn't it? [01:03:32] Speaker C: Damn. He's not helped himself. [01:03:33] Speaker A: He's not. And Drake's going, oh, you got small feet. And you apparently beat your wife. [01:03:38] Speaker B: Which is like, well, he's also calling him out for being gay as well. And he's saying a lot of the suspicious stuff that he's done, hence what he's talking about there. The beard line. [01:03:46] Speaker A: We've got to raise our daughter's predators. Like Kim lurking, grooved facial hair, because. [01:03:50] Speaker B: He knew being a beard fit him better. [01:03:51] Speaker A: That bar was so hard. [01:03:53] Speaker B: You know what he's saying, that someone is being a beard like this. Their cover for masking, for being actually gay. So he's saying that because he knows that a lot of these other rappers are. And he talks about kissing and twiddling. [01:04:03] Speaker A: Yeah, I scrolled down a little tiny bit. This bit I thought was, I've been in this industry twelve years. I'm gonna tell you one little secret. Weird shit going on. And some of these artists be here to police it. [01:04:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:12] Speaker A: They'd be streamlining victims all inside of their home and calling them tender, then leaked videos of themselves to further push their agendas. I'm sorry, it's not confirmation that Kendrick Larson. [01:04:19] Speaker B: No, it's not. [01:04:19] Speaker A: I ain't getting involved in your aluminum artist. And if you are coming, I can ruin you all. [01:04:23] Speaker B: That's what I think. He's sort of teasing him, saying, if you try and go over the line, I'm gonna pull it all out. [01:04:27] Speaker A: Cat Williams said, get you the truth, so I'm gonna get mines. And I'm sorry. This is exactly why when Kanye west came out and put his two pins in it, two pence in it, he was right when he said, the whole hip hop community is energized by the extermination of Drake. That's what Kanye west said. I'm sorry. And that's why I will continue to believe the crazy shit that's being said about Drake. But I just don't believe any of the stuff that's being said about Kendrick. And there's a reason why Drake's having to, like, drop it in little seeds and, like, just hide it amongst things because he's not got enough backing to really say Kendrick Lamar is saying it there, out there with nothing around, nothing to hide it. [01:05:02] Speaker C: I can't believe he's directing. [01:05:04] Speaker A: This is to a daughter that Drake has. [01:05:07] Speaker B: Crazy, innit? [01:05:07] Speaker A: Yep. Well, he said in defense, Kendrick Lamar, two diss tracks before they said this was supposed to be an exhibition. [01:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah. You're not breathing in kids into this. [01:05:17] Speaker A: Yeah, this supposed to be an exhibition. The second you brought my family in. I'm going for it now. And that's why he's doing it. [01:05:22] Speaker B: Damn. [01:05:23] Speaker A: Oh, my frickin. [01:05:25] Speaker C: If we're gonna have to do another emergency episode, we probably will. We probably will keep on like this. [01:05:30] Speaker A: And the thing, you know what? [01:05:31] Speaker B: We're on. I wouldn't be surprised if now something's. [01:05:33] Speaker A: Probably come out and again. And what I will say is, a lot of people I've been watching dissecting this is, and not to sound too dark, but like, we've never seen this level of diss track stuff in hip hop history, especially at this. Not top of the game. No, at the top of the game. And the last time we did, people were killed. People were literally like, this is two pack biggie level now. [01:05:55] Speaker C: Sorry, I was just checking there wasn't any more. [01:05:58] Speaker A: This is two part biggie level now. And last time. [01:06:01] Speaker B: But because in even then, though, in the two part big era in the mid to late nineties, the Internet's in its infancy now when there's so much public forum on it, the second it drops, there's so much details about. Do you know what I mean? [01:06:14] Speaker A: I'm sorry. So again, I can't keep reading it. You haven't even listened properly to the one that came out this morning. [01:06:20] Speaker B: So much. [01:06:21] Speaker C: I'm going to have to listen to it while we're packed down and stuff. [01:06:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to put me the Grahams on. It's my favorite. But anyway, yeah, we could talk about all day and if you're not interested in hip hop, get interested. Get interested because I'm not being funny. This is our coronation street. This, like, it's all the drama, Mick. I love it. [01:06:39] Speaker B: Is it gonna go on as long as Coronation street? We're gonna have 50 years again. [01:06:43] Speaker A: Where does it end? [01:06:45] Speaker B: The way it always ends is just someone puts out the last final dig and then they just forget about it. And then it gets forgotten about because. [01:06:53] Speaker A: Of a narcissist to admit defeat even with. Even if he is. [01:06:56] Speaker B: But he won't, though. But he did. When. When the story of Adonis came out. He never came back. He went, there's nothing I can say to battle against push like this. So I'm just, I'm just finished. I'm just gonna go, oh, I already had a, I already had a son, and I was just gonna speak about. [01:07:10] Speaker A: Funnily enough, I'll tell you what then, to summarize very briefly, because we've been trying to, trying to get our thoughts. [01:07:17] Speaker C: Crossed quickly, and we could literally keep talking. [01:07:19] Speaker A: We could literally go on up to present day points of recording, which is one or seven. The 5 may. Oh, 5 may not like us, has just been released. Who's winning the beef so far for you? [01:07:32] Speaker B: Kendrick, 100%. Not even close. [01:07:36] Speaker A: Agreed. Without an absolute shadow of doubt. [01:07:38] Speaker B: Not even close. [01:07:39] Speaker A: Absolute shadow of a doubt. I've actually, if anything, like I said, I've lost respect for Drake, but I actually think that he's delivered some of his best rapping for a long time. [01:07:49] Speaker C: I think we're going to see next. I reckon he's going to put out something insane. He's gonna have to, even if he takes a few days. [01:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:58] Speaker C: That's more time than he needs to make this thing. [01:08:01] Speaker A: Drake always wife, Drake always has to hide behind these 808 and his, and his cool beat switches and blah, blah, blah. Kendrick Lamar put on a slow, haunting beat and just delivered hatred. [01:08:12] Speaker B: I think that's what Drew is gonna do this time. [01:08:15] Speaker A: Drake don't have the facilities for that, big man. No, it doesn't. I'm sorry. He's not as good of a rapper. [01:08:19] Speaker C: Brings back his, well, he called Martin. [01:08:22] Speaker B: Said, am I battling ghost writers in AI? He's basically saying, not only am I even, am I even battling you, or am I just battling your squad? And they're sitting down in circle time going, right, what have you got for me, then? Give me what you've got. Like, he's got in a pitch room and people are just saying, how about you say this? He's got small feet and someone else going, he beats his wife and he goes, love it, love it. Get it in some bars. Send it over the email and I'll record it later. [01:08:44] Speaker A: Splinter. Kendrick Lamar basically had a bar that was along the lines of, this ain't a one v, one, one b, if it's one V 20. Cause I've got a go for all the guys writing for you. [01:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Which is winning. It's already dead and buried and lake at Stanfield was like five nil up. [01:09:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:01] Speaker A: Anyone who thinks Drake is winning this is either not listening or is a bot. It's quite simple. [01:09:06] Speaker B: You're a big fan. [01:09:07] Speaker A: And that's why Kendrick has the hearts of the culture, and that's one thing that Drake will never have. And I think that's what really hurts Drake. And I think that's why Kendrick keeps rubbing that little salt in the wood, because it's like, you can try as hard as you want, but everything that you want, I possess. [01:09:20] Speaker C: I want it to grow into, like, this bigger rivalry that. I want Drake. I want Drake to come back with a hit that makes everyone go, he maybe not that. [01:09:28] Speaker B: I'd like to see it. I'd like to see it. [01:09:30] Speaker C: That's what we want. [01:09:31] Speaker B: You know, they need to do it. Misfits boxing card. Kendrick versus. [01:09:35] Speaker A: Now, that is one thing Kendrick would lose. [01:09:37] Speaker B: Kendrick would definitely lose that money. [01:09:40] Speaker A: Drake is a big boy. [01:09:41] Speaker B: I'd have my money on Drake for that one. [01:09:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Fantastic. [01:09:43] Speaker B: I don't think you do. I don't think you do. [01:09:44] Speaker A: Well, unfortunately, we're gonna have to wrap it up. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. I think so. I think we've covered a lot of that. [01:09:48] Speaker A: I mean, it makes me sad, because I would love to do 10 hours of just breaking down all the quadruple entendres. [01:09:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:54] Speaker A: I mean, this. Bars after bars, after bars. [01:09:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:59] Speaker A: But we'd be here all day. But I thoroughly enjoyed that. I'm glad we managed to squeeze an emergency episode out. If you're watching this team, any day of the week. [01:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:09] Speaker A: Damn. [01:10:10] Speaker B: If you're watching this on YouTube, Spotify, TikTok, whatever, leave your comments. Who's winning the beef? [01:10:15] Speaker A: I want to know what you think is going on right now. [01:10:18] Speaker C: Do a poll or something. [01:10:19] Speaker A: We'll do a poll. What's the best diss track so far? He's winning the beef overall. Do you believe the stuff that's being dropped about Drake? [01:10:26] Speaker B: It's a good point. [01:10:29] Speaker A: Anyway. And we will get back to normality with our next episode with a bit more. Bit more. [01:10:35] Speaker B: Bit more variety with our topics. [01:10:37] Speaker A: We won't just be spitting. Spitting truths and facts and. And hip hop Coronation street. [01:10:45] Speaker C: That's the episode. [01:10:45] Speaker B: That's the episode name. Hip hop Coronation street. [01:10:47] Speaker A: Hip hop coronation street. [01:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:49] Speaker A: Anyway, thank you for tuning in and listening and. And I hope you were interested as much as we were because this has been a week in music culture history that is never gonna be topped. Stamp in your diaries. I'm gonna get 5 may tattooed on my arm. I don't care. Anyway, thank you so much. [01:11:06] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:11:07] Speaker A: Get involved in the comments. Let us know if you're enjoying everything so far. Thank you. Welcome. [01:11:23] Speaker B: To feeling podcast.