Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Right, welcome back to the Feel with podcast. We are back again. We've had a little. We've been off for like two, three weeks, haven't we?
[00:00:17] Speaker B: It's been a couple, but we're back with the full house.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: Been catching up.
[00:00:19] Speaker B: We had a quiet one last time.
[00:00:20] Speaker A: We missed some mad shit, haven't we? The last time. The last time we were here, we were talking about the potential of a Tyler Crater album.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: And then it came.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: And the possible features we were wrong in. All of that. Still slaps. But we've got loads to catch up on.
[00:00:33] Speaker B: We do.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: And we've got. We're hitting some mad pop culture news today. And then we're gonna go into something else that we've briefly touched on before.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: If you're a fan of this podcast.
[00:00:42] Speaker B: You very much know that we touch on aliens, UAPs and everything that comes into that world.
[00:00:47] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: And we'll be touching upon it again.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: Motherfucker. We were right.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: But until we get any further, Splinter is back in the house. Give us our question of the week, please.
[00:00:56] Speaker C: We are indeed. I have it on the graphic here, but I'm not sure if I can.
[00:01:00] Speaker B: Read that from there.
[00:01:01] Speaker C: Yeah, go on.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: Question of the week. If you could ask one person. Wait. If you could ask one question to one person, what would you ask and who would you ask it to?
[00:01:09] Speaker A: That is a tongue twister ever in history.
[00:01:11] Speaker B: Say that four times rapid.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: If you could ask one question to one person, what would you ask and who would you ask it to?
[00:01:16] Speaker B: Ooh, can't remember my lyrics, but I.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Could be a tongue twister. Well, they expected to fall over during this. That's hard, that.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: That's one question to one person.
[00:01:24] Speaker A: Hitler. What is such a wanker for?
[00:01:26] Speaker B: What a waste of a question that would be.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: You're telling me you don't want to ask Hitler why he did it?
[00:01:30] Speaker B: I know why he did it. We'll get into that. Conspiracies, Part 3.
[00:01:33] Speaker C: Ghost won't be able to understand his answer. I don't think that's a good point.
[00:01:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I can't say I don't know how.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: Hot his English was, if he spoke it at all.
Probably a little scotch.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:42] Speaker B: Have you got one?
[00:01:43] Speaker A: Nah, I'm struggling there.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: Splinter, have you got one? Because you thought of it. I'd love to hear yours. Have you got something?
[00:01:48] Speaker C: I actually don't. It's not bad that I don't have one either.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: Well, I bet you won't.
[00:01:52] Speaker C: A really thought provoking question that no one can.
[00:01:54] Speaker A: It's Almost too.
[00:01:55] Speaker B: The thing is, if I'm asking one person one question.
[00:01:59] Speaker C: But that could be like your icon of question as well. That could be like true.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: But the thing is, if it's my icon, don't know about Sam. I feel like I know him so well. I already know the answer they're gonna give me. Do you know what I mean? They would say something. I'd go, cool. I thought that. Cause I'd like you and I know what you're gonna say.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: Actually. What I'd. Oh, I'd want like some absolute set in stone truth on like, who killed MJ and who killed. I mean, ironically, Michael Jackson. Yeah, we know now.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: Not Michael Jordan. Who's still alive.
Not Michael Jackson.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: B. Jordan.
[00:02:29] Speaker B: That's the thing, though. All the ones I'd want, you would think are conspiracy based, but I'm pretty solid on all the answers for them all.
[00:02:35] Speaker A: What about go back to like a pharaoh and be like, come on, who built these fucking big triangles?
[00:02:39] Speaker B: That's literally my answer for the last one.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: It is, but it's because it's so.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: It's a good one. So I'm asking Ramesses and saying, what happened with the pyramids then? I don't even know. He was about for the pyramids.
[00:02:49] Speaker A: Cleopatra, watch your body count.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: Yeah, hers is mad. Cleopatra was doing numbers.
[00:02:55] Speaker C: Well, you could ask someone at like the Pentagon, like something on the lines of what conspiracy theory is the most accurate? Or like, what.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: That's a fair one.
[00:03:03] Speaker C: Or like, what's.
[00:03:04] Speaker B: I'll ask George W. Bush. Give me in a full breakdown.
9, 11. Who, what, when, why? And go. And when he gives me answer, that's everything. I already knew. Yeah, he wanted to go for oil. You made up a war and made up weapons of mass destruction.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: You've hit the nail on the end. Because every question I want to ask, I pretty much know the answer. I just want confirmation.
[00:03:27] Speaker B: Oh, no, I've got one.
[00:03:28] Speaker A: Go on.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: Fine, I'll go. J. Cole or Kendrick. Black Friday album that was promised in February. What happened? Why? And is it going to happen in the future? Give me that then.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: But would you not be devastated if you've wasted your question on an answer where it's just no?
[00:03:43] Speaker B: He goes, yeah, we didn't feel with it. We didn't like it.
[00:03:45] Speaker A: It's never coming. You're gonna hear it.
[00:03:46] Speaker B: All right, cool. Nice meeting you.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: Because you can say the same for the Kanye, Kendrick, Madlib, like, full album that's there that we're never gonna hear. I saw someone saying on toktik on a TikTok the other day. They was like, yeah, yeah, I've heard it. It's sick. It just needs structuring. And neither of them are bothered enough. How can you not be bothered enough?
[00:04:03] Speaker B: That question's pissed me off, Splinter, because I can't think of. The second we rap, I go, I just thought of the most brilliant thought provoking question ever and I can't think what it would be.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: That's it for me. I think it's 9, 11. It's pyramids.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: Yeah, we're going that. We're going that.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: I honestly, Splinter, I wouldn't bother about asking anyone at the Pentagon because the guy at the Pentagon pretty much dropped all the beans he did recently. And we're going to Lou Elizondo. Lou Elizondo, Yeah.
[00:04:25] Speaker B: But thank you, Splinter.
[00:04:27] Speaker C: That might be my first miss, actually, as a question.
[00:04:29] Speaker A: It wasn't a miss?
[00:04:29] Speaker B: No, it wasn't a miss.
[00:04:30] Speaker A: It was just too hard.
[00:04:30] Speaker B: You've not had any misses? No, respectfully. And I would tell you if you had a big fat swing.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: Nah, that was a good question.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: No, there was no miss. It was too thought provoking.
[00:04:38] Speaker C: Too good of a question, though.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: We need one like Lil's one when it's, would you rather eat 10 jelly beans or fart twice?
[00:04:44] Speaker A: Me and Liam are way too autistic for an answer like that. I need 10 minutes to think about every possible person.
[00:04:48] Speaker B: I'll cut Sam off in roughly 25 minutes and go stop. Yes, here's my answer and you'll go, perfect. And we'll continue because that's how we roll. My one is, I saw someone do a bracket for this that. Did you know if there was a world bracket of fighting of 1v1s and you go up a tier to be world champion, you would only need 33 wins. Isn't that mad?
[00:05:11] Speaker A: I think I saw something.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: How far were you going in said bracket? Randomised.
[00:05:15] Speaker A: Wait, so you mean everybody in. Everybody was partnered in two? Like fights of two?
[00:05:20] Speaker B: No, no, no, no. Everyone on earth is partnered one on one against someone.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: If you win, you go to the next round.
[00:05:25] Speaker B: You would only have to win 33 fights to be number one world champion.
[00:05:28] Speaker A: Next question then. Where are you getting?
[00:05:30] Speaker B: I'm easily going.
If I'm not doing them back to back and I got time to chill, I'm easily going. Respectfully though, if you think about the average person, actually the average person on Earth is a 27 year old Chinese man. Believe it or not, that's the average human big time. 100%. I'll go full Yoda 100%. I think I'm going at least 10. I have to believe.
[00:05:50] Speaker A: I think you're being way too modest there.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: You think so? Yeah, bro, I'm just thinking just under. But I think if I'm a whole, that's what I think. If I could go run through a couple of broke countries, I'm running through Sierra Leone, that's a wash. But also I could get Jon Jones first round and then I'm finished. Do you know what I mean? It could be game over. I could pull my nephew who's a child.
Do you know what I mean?
[00:06:18] Speaker A: Do you know, I love.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: We both looked at each other then.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: And was like, for context, does anybody know his nephew's like 4 years old?
[00:06:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not saying my nephew. Oh, he's a boxer, whatever.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: Yeah, the 25 year old heavyweight.
[00:06:28] Speaker B: But I think respectively, if it's really random, I think I've got my chance. I've taken 10 rounds. I think I'm going.
[00:06:34] Speaker A: Surely the chances of you drawing in like a heavyweight MMA fighter are quite slim.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: Okay, first round. Brian Shaw, who's 6 foot 9, one of the strongest men on earth, it could happen, but I would like to think I'm at least going 10 rounds. I put my money on it.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: Be like a World cup though, where like, if France go out in the group stages, then you're like, oh, shit, I could win this.
[00:06:50] Speaker B: But that's the thing.
[00:06:51] Speaker A: Tyson gets knocked out like dead early.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: But it's not football we're fighting. I want France early. Doesn't matter because I just can't imagine getting beat by a French person.
[00:07:00] Speaker A: I just don't want to be making football sense.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: Name me one famous French fighter or boxer.
[00:07:06] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Arrest my case. Continue, Sam. How far are you going?
[00:07:10] Speaker A: I genuinely think you just took a chance on that and you were bang on because you splinter anything I've got. There's nothing there. There's no French fighters. I can't.
[00:07:18] Speaker B: I can't think of anything. Not in the US Unless you finish.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: And they'll be like, oh, what about Francois?
[00:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah, there'll be some boxers in the commentary going, how'd you feel?
[00:07:23] Speaker A: Francois Bourgeois, isn't it? The train guy.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it is. Who's not even French. He's not even French. He's just an autistic guy who loves to be.
[00:07:31] Speaker A: And I would defo want to take him in the early 100%.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: He's getting dusted. His knees are going left and right.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: Inwards just make us train and he'll collapse.
[00:07:38] Speaker B: Yeah, that would do it.
[00:07:39] Speaker A: Or come.
[00:07:40] Speaker C: But the question on top of that is, would you rather get to the 33rd round and lose or go out in the first round?
[00:07:47] Speaker B: I'd rather go as far as I can just to. I think. Because then on your CV, you go in the 33 tier bracket, you made it to 27, they'll go, he's tough.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:55] Speaker B: In a workplace conflict, he's tough.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: In the UFC after you've died.
[00:08:01] Speaker B: Not to death. Otherwise there'd just be one person left on earth. Because he's.
[00:08:04] Speaker A: Imagine just going to work, though, after this.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Everyone just going, oh, what about you? And you go, oh, I had an old lady for the first 10 rounds. I got really lucky.
[00:08:11] Speaker A: How'd you finish? 18th? Yeah, I was just smacking up bear grannies.
[00:08:15] Speaker B: That's what I mean. It could happen. You never know.
[00:08:17] Speaker A: I think. So wait, what do you actually think then? Cause you said 10. I don't think it's 10.
[00:08:20] Speaker B: I think 10.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: No, you don't really?
[00:08:22] Speaker B: No, but I have to be realistic.
[00:08:23] Speaker A: Yeah, but just chances. Chances are I'm a 5 foot 6, 26 year old. I'm confident that I could get over 10.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: If you think you can get over 10, fair.
[00:08:35] Speaker A: I did a bit of kickboxing when I was 12.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: I think you get to 20. Liam, 20.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Give me 20. Thank you.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: Like, man, healthy man. Now you're healthy.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: No, this is not the episode. All right, fine. Give me 20 rounds. Give me 20 rounds.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: If I hit 15, I'd be happy if I could hit over halfway.
[00:08:52] Speaker B: Over halfway. You know What? Halfway.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: It's 16.
[00:08:55] Speaker B: No give or take. I think halfways would be a really good metric to go off.
[00:08:59] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:09:00] Speaker B: Unless I pull, you know, silly goofiness.
[00:09:04] Speaker A: To get us going.
[00:09:04] Speaker B: So it was a really good one that I wanted to get into first.
[00:09:06] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:09:06] Speaker B: Whatever you want to talk about.
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Well, what we want to talk about. So let's get some pop culture news out the way. What did you reckon?
Mike Tyson fight and Jake Paul.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: You mean the theater performance?
[00:09:17] Speaker A: Yeah, the wrestling event. That was a.
[00:09:20] Speaker B: You mean the. You mean the.
Oh, yeah, gotcha. When I do this, it means you slip. So I can give you a. It's silly. It's silly. And I didn't see more clips of.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: Him slipping fake punches.
[00:09:29] Speaker B: Yeah, no. I watched the highlights the next day because I'm not staying up to watch no Phantom of the Opera, which is what I'm watching, because they're both just dancers. They were dancers that night.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:09:40] Speaker B: And you know what? Not even mad at tyson. You're nearly 60, he's getting his heftiest purse of his career.
[00:09:46] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:09:47] Speaker B: There's no problem.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I've got no complaints if you're a.
[00:09:50] Speaker B: You'Re a young guy in your prime doing stuff like that fighting a guy who's twice your age. Yeah, it's madness.
[00:09:56] Speaker A: I have been loving the memes of who Jake's gonna fight next of just all these granddads.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: Well, the Britain's oldest man we spoke about died. He's dead now.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:10:04] Speaker B: So, you know, we made fun of he's dead.
[00:10:06] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, we did.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: We made fun of him.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: Well, we didn't. We were reading out on the holiday.
[00:10:11] Speaker B: Episode making fun of him. There was loads of comments and I had to read them out to Sam and they were so funny because the top one was like, get this man his keys.
Bro's ready for a career in U.S. politics.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: Yes. There was running for president.
[00:10:23] Speaker B: Oh, there was loads of great ones. Loads of great ones. We just love a bit of age. Knocking band.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: So he's not fighting Jake next and that's sad.
[00:10:29] Speaker B: No, he's not. He missed his cut off for him.
[00:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah, I was, I couldn't believe.
I can't believe the obsession with it, to be honest.
[00:10:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: Because like I'm. I feel like I'm a pretty good average in the sense that I like boxing, but I'm not a fanatic.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: Same.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: So I feel like I'm the perfect Joe Bloggs on the street for an event like that.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: And Mike Tyson's one of my favorite athletes to ever walk the planet.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Not the best person as a fighter.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: As a fighter.
[00:10:53] Speaker A: Yeah, as a fighter.
[00:10:54] Speaker B: Separate the man from the art.
[00:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. And it just like, it winds me up that people were annoyed at Mike because it's like, yeah, you think 58 year old man's gonna turn down like, what is it, $40 million or something?
[00:11:04] Speaker B: 40 Ms. Crazy.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: Go for it.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Whatever.
[00:11:08] Speaker A: I ironically got in the best shape of his life. Yeah.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: He looks great.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: Looks amazing. What? He looks like he's pulling punches.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: It was fake because when you see his training videos and he is lightning lethal.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: He's so fast. At his age, his trainer is terrified.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: Whenever he's mangling people left, right and centre.
[00:11:25] Speaker B: But at the same time he's, you know, okay, he got paid 20.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Oh, was it Jake got 40 then. Yeah, I've seen the figure. 40.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: So you earned double what he got for the Roy Jones Jr. Fight a couple years ago.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: But she's mad. I mean, that was better at least. Because at least they both wanted. I mean, I don't think any of them could.
[00:11:39] Speaker B: No, it wasn't. Because they're both a similar age. They're both older guys.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: I don't know about you. The second I see a no knockout clause, I don't want to watch the fight.
[00:11:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Because then you just know that it's.
[00:11:48] Speaker B: Like I actually feel more dumb that I didn't put money on it. How foolish am I for not putting 20 quid in it to go at least seven rounds?
[00:11:53] Speaker A: My draw on.
[00:11:55] Speaker B: No, on a Jake win. I think it's so obvious.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: See this, what I actually get, he wins.
[00:11:58] Speaker B: It's so obvious. And I said the same when it was the Floyd and Conor McGregor McGregor fight. I said, guaranteed, there's no way Floyd's going to allow his perfect record to go messed up. 49. 0. At that point, or 49.
[00:12:12] Speaker A: I think he was 51, wasn't it?
[00:12:14] Speaker B: He was in the end. Because that wasn't his. I don't know if it was his last fight, though.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:12:17] Speaker B: Yeah, but where he was. He was close. He was not going to allow Conor. UFC fighter, but Conor was going to go, well, if I'm not gonna do his accent, I'm gonna try dead. I'm not gonna try his accent.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: You got Irish blood. It's not racist.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: Yeah, true. Well, no, it's more the fact I couldn't do a good. I wouldn't be worried about being racist. It was more the fact that he's not going to allow the fight to not go all the way. And he's going to go. I'm fine with it going to him because of course it should, but I want to go at least 10 rounds. And of course it did.
[00:12:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: But that at least was because they're actual two very experienced fighters. It looked very real. I think they just were both pulling their punches. Like Spider Man. I don't know where he is. Somewhere here he's pulling his punches.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: I saw a TikTok this week and it was a mixture of like. I think it was Mike Tyson on Joe Rogan and then it was another bloke that he grew up with. But did you know that Mike Tyson's dad made him go through hypnotherapy when he was like 11, 12.
[00:13:04] Speaker B: Tell me about it. Cause I've been hearing this. Go on.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. And to be honest, it makes a lot of sense. Cause I was saying to Splinter before we started, like, you Know how the last kind of like five to eight years of Mike Tyson's career has just been him being on podcast? Like, tears down his cheek. Like, I hated the man. I was. Like, I was evil.
[00:13:21] Speaker B: And he's got bipolar. Yeah, he's got another personality.
[00:13:23] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:13:24] Speaker B: And he talks about that monster. I can't let that monster get out.
[00:13:26] Speaker A: Because outside of the fighting as well, the awful thing, I mean, he's been locked up, banned from the uk, the awful things he's doing. He's dead. But it's now starting to make a lot of sense because basically he was saying that his dad made him go from hypnotherapy to basically separate Mike Tyson and Iron Mike, let's say the Persona of him in the ring. And he doesn't value human life. Like, he's literally pure evil. And it just makes so much sense now because obviously, like I say, he spent the last few years.
He's clearly gone through therapy and realized that he didn't want to dip into that again. And ironically, now, after the Jake Paul fight, I definitely think he was talking about going evil again and all that just for selling tickets or whatever, bums on seats kind of thing. Because he definitely didn't unlock Iron Mike for little Jake Paul, did he?
[00:14:13] Speaker B: But he was SpongeBob.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: But, yeah, I thought he was mad because, like, can you imagine, like, your son when he's 10, 11 years old, had a couple of boxing lessons, and you're like, I'm gonna get you hypnotized to just fucking kill people, to just be an awful person?
[00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah, well, he was fighting grown men at 13.
[00:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: Because they didn't believe he was of his age because his neck was, like 18 inches or something stupid. Like, he had the thickest neck. There'll be a picture of it on the screen.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: That's what I've always found.
[00:14:40] Speaker B: Crazy.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: Always found mad about him, though.
[00:14:41] Speaker B: Crazy.
[00:14:42] Speaker A: How tall is he, Splinter? Can you find out?
[00:14:43] Speaker B: Oh, he's definite. Definitely like five seven.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Because this is not tall. He's. So he could be six foot. That's how deceiving it is. But he looks like a short man.
[00:14:49] Speaker B: No, he is a short guy.
[00:14:50] Speaker C: I mean, you're about to be wildly surprised, I think.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: Really? Go on.
[00:14:53] Speaker B: 5, 7, 5, 10. So he's 5 10. I thought he was shorter.
[00:14:57] Speaker A: Well, this. This is what confuses me, because as a heavyweight, that's short. Yeah, I know that's really short. But, like, he was sparking up, man. That was 6 foot 7, 6 foot 8.
[00:15:04] Speaker B: Crazy.
[00:15:05] Speaker A: But, like, yeah, he's built like a bus shelter for like, for 20 years of his life. Built like a bus shelter upside down. Triangle.
[00:15:11] Speaker C: Okay, well, this picture's come up for him being 12 in this picture, but.
[00:15:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, look at that kid. Yeah, man, I looked old when I was 12. But that's. That is silly.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: That looks like a 19 year old at least, doesn't it? That's insane.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: Do me a bit. Type in Mike Tyson neck and if he sat home and. You're such a funny guy, if you're watching this, just get up a new tab on your phone or whatever and just type in Mike Tyson neck. And just look at the width of his neck. It's absolutely ridiculous. If you're even training your neck, like he'd put weight.
[00:15:40] Speaker A: What neck? There's no neck. It goes pecs to jaw.
[00:15:44] Speaker B: Crazy. Look at the width.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: It's a neck's wider than his jawline.
[00:15:50] Speaker B: Mental, innit?
Mental.
[00:15:52] Speaker C: Got Jabba the hook kind of neck.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that's got a jab of the hook kind of neck.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: That's gross. Anyway, that one, I love it. Yeah, that's nuts that.
[00:15:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it's absolutely unbelievable.
[00:16:00] Speaker A: Anyway, a bit of a random segue, but you've got something to tell us about. I'm a celeb, haven't you?
[00:16:05] Speaker B: I just said and I saw.
[00:16:06] Speaker A: First of all. Sorry, have you been watching it?
[00:16:08] Speaker B: I've been watching it religiously, so I.
[00:16:09] Speaker A: Don'T pay a TV license. So I haven't been watching it. But I've been watching TV license.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: Watch it an hour later like I do.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: Yeah, on itv.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: You can't have it, bro, it's BBC only.
[00:16:17] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[00:16:18] Speaker B: Yes, it is. No, when I say I've tell you I've looked into it, you're dead wrong.
[00:16:21] Speaker A: The 12 letters I've received prove otherwise.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: No, no, no. They try and scare you. Splinter. Pull it up. Oh, TV license covers only. Live TV. BBC. I played. That's it, I'm telling you. 4 od, channel 4. Whatever those other ones are. ITVX, all of them you can watch afterwards.
[00:16:37] Speaker A: Because it's ITVX, isn't it?
[00:16:39] Speaker B: It's ITVX. You can watch it afterwards. It's only BBC iPlayer. You know, we should have chatgpt as a thingy. But I'm telling you it's that. But anyway, it's been good.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: Go on.
[00:16:47] Speaker B: And the thing I hate to see every year is who the hell are.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: These when they all get on.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: No, it's not even that. Oh, I hate to see that. When People put forever celebrity. They go, who are these people? They're not even celebrities. Firstly, are you expecting Tom Cruise, Kim Kardashian and Donald Trump before he goes into office? That's what people expect. And it drives me mental every year.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: Well, do you know what it is? I think we don't know who this is. When Americans do talent shows. Well, not talent shows, like live reality TV shows. Should I say the biggest? Like a Z list American is super famous.
[00:17:16] Speaker B: Yeah. It's good to know.
[00:17:17] Speaker A: Whereas our Z listers are like Corry and also.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: But Corrie to Lisa. That's a big name. Melvin O'Doom. I was watching on Anson Deck's. What's it called? Anton. Not Anton Deck. Dick and Dom in the Bungalow. They've actually got some really good people on.
[00:17:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: I think it's the first one I watched in years ago. I actually know a lot of these, but it don't know why it drives me mental when people go, who are these?
[00:17:38] Speaker A: This is the first one I'm sad I've missed for a while, actually.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: It's been good.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: But like, I mean, Daddy from McFly, he's a legend.
[00:17:44] Speaker B: He is. He's really good.
[00:17:45] Speaker A: They've got. I think Colleen Rooney was a bit of a pull.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: You know what she got paid. She was the second highest paid ever. Colin Rooney, ever 1.5. Some people got. Went in there for like 40k madness.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Well, this is the thing.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Like Nigel Farage was first last year.
[00:18:00] Speaker A: He was the most paid.
[00:18:01] Speaker B: He was the highest paid.
[00:18:02] Speaker A: That makes my heart hurt.
[00:18:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Mad, innit? Mud.
[00:18:06] Speaker A: There isn't a figure of amount of cockroaches you can put down a man's throat that makes it worth paying Nigel Farage that amount of money.
[00:18:13] Speaker B: Bonkers.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: Absolutely nuts. But to be fair, Colin Rooney is quite poor because, like, the more you hear her talk about it, like Danny Murphy, for example. Not Danny Murphy.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: He's not called Danny Murphy.
[00:18:22] Speaker A: What's he called? Danny Jones.
[00:18:23] Speaker B: Jones.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Danny Murphy's a football pundit. That's hilarious.
Yeah. Like, he's a football fan and like there was a few of us in there and they're like, if I was starting with Colleen Rooney now, like, Colin Rooney's pulled up in a car next to me once and I was like, you're married till.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah, but she's got my favorite football ever. She's pulling up in a spaceship.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Yeah. And I know she's like, she's a successful woman in her own right, but she was. She's like been in the White House with Trump and all.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Yeah, well, she spoke about that on the show.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:46] Speaker B: Apart from Reverend Richard Coles, because I still understand.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: How the fuck is he by.
[00:18:50] Speaker B: I don't know how he made it on a watch.
[00:18:51] Speaker A: I know he seems really nice and everyone's obsessed with him, but who is he?
[00:18:53] Speaker C: He's a broadcaster and a writer.
[00:18:55] Speaker B: He also a hit song in the 80s that you would know. Very, very famous song.
[00:18:58] Speaker A: He's in a duo because I saw a clip of him saying in the jungle that someone came up to him was like, you're the soundtrack of my childhood.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Oh, cheers, mate. He was like, I can't believe I'd nearly run over one of the Pet Shop Boys. And he was like, oh, yeah, not one of them. That's not me. Yeah, he's in a duo, but who's that Dean guy? Everyone hates him and he's definitely a prick.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: He's the biggest waste, man. He's a.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: How is he still in there?
[00:19:18] Speaker B: He's from. Ends. He's from Manchester.
[00:19:20] Speaker A: That's so embarrassing.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: No, he got voted out last night.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: Did he?
[00:19:22] Speaker B: And by. If you're watching this, he got voted out months ago. If you're watching this on TikTok.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:27] Speaker B: No, he was just uber selfish. He was one of those guys. He did every trial because he was a bit of a.
[00:19:31] Speaker C: Didn't they complain that everyone kept on voting? Like, Hun and Dec made, like a genuine statistic.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: So they do this every year when one person who overreacts.
[00:19:39] Speaker A: Jillian McKeef.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: Jillian McKeef. Famous, famous example. They go. The public goes, well, she's doing every trial. So he got voted for like eight trials on the bounce. And Ant was like, put a public into.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: It was like, please back out the most. Or some of them.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: Anyway, he said, I'm a celebrity so many times. And he would go in going, I'm changing the narrative, I'm doing it. And they go, dean, are you sure? And he goes, I'm doing it. And he would go, I'm a celeb because of some sand touches his feet.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: I did see the one where I think it was like cold water that dropped on his head. And he immediately said it.
[00:20:09] Speaker B: Yeah, he said.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: And I was like, if you just waited two seconds, you'd realize it was just cold water.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah, no, he's. He's. Oh, no, he did that for fish guts. That was like everything else. You'd just gone through spiders and cockroaches and whatever and fish guts. He went, I'm out why is he.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: Why is he the man cunning in there? It's so insulting.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: No, there's.
[00:20:30] Speaker A: Where's Danny Jones from?
[00:20:32] Speaker B: He's.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: I think he gives northern energy.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: I think he's from, like, Sheffield or he might. From your ends, you know.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: There you go. I like that. I'll take that.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: I think he's from somewhere. Doncaster. I don't know. He strikes me. Strikes me as from there. We'll find out where he's from.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway, I'm sad I missed it.
[00:20:45] Speaker C: Oh, sorry, I can't find him. Give me a sec.
[00:20:47] Speaker B: Yeah, seven. Donny Jones, hometown. But yeah. No other Mancunian's on there apart from him. And he's gone now.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Danny's gone.
[00:20:52] Speaker B: So Danny's not gone. Oh, Dean's gone.
[00:20:55] Speaker A: Oh, Dean.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Only two people's gone.
[00:20:57] Speaker C: Danny Jones from Bolton.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: Bolton. So there you go. He's close. He's from south.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Right. There you go. Peter K Zens.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Peter K's ends. There you go.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: Normal stuff. That's not far from us.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: Not too far. A little further south from where we are.
[00:21:08] Speaker A: But anyway, keep it going anyway. Yeah. Right, so we got some music news. So I was supposed to put it before about. He went to see Charlie xcx.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: How did you go as well?
[00:21:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I went to World Trip Co Op Monday night.
Yes.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: I saw a lot of clips and.
[00:21:21] Speaker C: That'S the quick answer.
[00:21:22] Speaker A: Well, there you go. So I like Charlie xcx.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: But what I more wanted to discuss was I've been pissing myself laughing at, like, the show was popping off in the uk and then. Did you see that Times Square show she did?
[00:21:33] Speaker B: I didn't on purpose because I thought you'd have something saying it on purpose.
[00:21:36] Speaker A: It was comical, mate. So I again, I was gonna come on here and talk about this, but thank God, splintering for me. Like, two minutes before we started filming.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: The tickets were released, like, within the hour before.
[00:21:46] Speaker B: Oh. So a lot of people there, which weren't even fans.
[00:21:48] Speaker A: Probably not even fans, but, like, energy levels. Did you see any of.
[00:21:52] Speaker B: I saw the blur. She comes in.
[00:21:53] Speaker A: Visually, it looks insane. Obviously, the brat image imagery all over all the screens looks sick, but obviously it's like hyper pop. And she's like. She's going for it and everyone's just down there, like, nothing. Nothing at all. But what I love about her is she'll literally. She like stands still and she'll be like, where the fuck are you? Like, what are you doing?
[00:22:11] Speaker B: I respect it and it makes sense. You shouldn't be cussing out yours. If you're having a bad show, it's because of them. You should be cussing them out.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: Because the last week or two of her tour has been the UK and it's all popped off. And then I think she's just gone to America and immediately, first show, she was just like, there's loads of clips gone viral of just being like, where the fuck is all of the energy? You're all wild.
[00:22:28] Speaker B: You know what? This is the best thing. And I've seen rappers talk about this, how they say they love UK crowds because they respect it so much more.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:22:34] Speaker B: That's why, like, London wireless gets such big pulls, because they love to go there. You can't pull it up. But there's a clip of Roddy Ricch, who could do in the box, which you'll definitely know the song. And he does it in London and he goes, london, sing that shit. And they do the whole first part of the song, word for word. Every single person floors the white people saying the N word. It's crazy. But everyone's saying, yeah, I'm not gonna.
[00:22:59] Speaker C: Pull that clip up.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: You know, don't pull it off. But it's so good. And I've seen a super court of interviews. Them going, UK fans do it different because they just. They don't get. Those kind of. People come over often.
[00:23:09] Speaker A: This is because they're spoiled, aren't they?
[00:23:11] Speaker B: You know what it is, though? You know what it is? School assemblies. We're so used to primary school assemblies.
[00:23:17] Speaker A: Kumbaya, jump.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: That's what it is. If you're singing He's Got the Whole World in His Hand for seven years in a row, four times a week.
You're so used to participation, training, that and football. Do you not think we're just so used to as British people singing, screaming.
[00:23:34] Speaker A: At the top of our lungs, at.
[00:23:35] Speaker B: The top of our lungs with a bunch of strangers. It's the most normal thing. So that's why when you go to shows, people are giving energy. Like, how mad was it at Kendrick? That's why I was saying people were losing their bananas. It was mental.
[00:23:46] Speaker C: We needed to sing in assembly. Led to singing Kendrick's Box.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: That's what it was. Yeah, that actually did happen, which was class.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: And apparently he loved that.
[00:23:55] Speaker B: Of course he loved that. No, he didn't.
[00:23:56] Speaker C: Grinning weren't on stage. There was a close one when we were there.
[00:23:59] Speaker B: We were obviously really close on one of the corners.
[00:24:01] Speaker A: We were next to the box and.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: There was loads of guys near us. With their short, tiny girlfriends who were built like Lego minifigures. And I went, you're getting dashed. Not by me, but. And the second it started getting wild, they disappeared. Me and Sam got distance from each other a few parts and we had to kind of like find each other again because it was hard to keep together.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:21] Speaker B: Because just the energy was.
[00:24:22] Speaker A: Like I said, we should have took gum shields.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: Yeah, could have done. Because we were catching elbows and whatever. But thankfully we were the toughest looking guy there. So everyone left us alone and no one left.
[00:24:32] Speaker A: And I did find myself just like scanning the room for whenever the N word was said. Just splinter.
[00:24:37] Speaker B: When we were there, we were with my friend Manny, who you've not met, and he's taller than me. He's a black guy, taller than me, very big, ripped, ripped. And he had a balaclava on as well, a Cortez one, just because it looked cool as hell. So he's the nicest, sweetest guy, God fearing man. But when we were there, no one within like a 20 meter radius was saying the N word. So whenever it was coming to the bits, it was only him shouting it and then just a sea of silence around us, which was amazing because the rest of the stadium was obviously screaming it. Which was just perfect because it just felt like everyone was going, he looks like he could batter me. I'm gonna keep. I'm gonna keep quiet and just keep.
[00:25:16] Speaker A: Well being Cortez balaclava really like did a lot, didn't it?
[00:25:19] Speaker B: Is the only. If any of us wore that. You'd look lame as hell. Yeah, but. Cause him, he'd go, yeah, you look sick.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: Wasn't it like cream?
[00:25:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. It was a little cream coloured, like cashmere or something. Yeah. Cause he looked so good.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: Most beautiful balaclava you could ever look at. Amazing. Well, anyway, speaking of Kendrick Lamar.
[00:25:35] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:25:36] Speaker A: So I'm gonna paint the scene.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: Mustache.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm going to paint the scene for you.
[00:25:41] Speaker B: Yeah, go on.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: It's Friday.
It was it like 1, 2 o'clock.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: It was like some point in the afternoon.
[00:25:47] Speaker A: It was, it was early evening, late afternoon.
[00:25:49] Speaker B: Twas.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: I'm in here with my, with our boys Dave and Dan, and we were setting up for an event in the studio. I get a phone call off Liam.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: Let me act it out.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: Bing, bing, bing.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Kendrick dropped phone gets put down.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: And I was. And I literally, I'm looking at my phone after he put the phone down, I was like, right, he must be joking because that's torture. Phones it back Up.
Kendrick dropped phone down again.
[00:26:17] Speaker B: Phone down again.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: And then I'm like running around the room.
[00:26:18] Speaker B: Is that okay?
[00:26:19] Speaker A: I'm like, what the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck?
[00:26:20] Speaker B: Then you called one more time. And I went, kendrick dropped music video. One minute. Listen now.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: Phone goes down.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: And that alone, we thought we were so blessed.
[00:26:29] Speaker B: My goodness, what an end to our week. Five minutes later, Kendrick dropped a full album. Get it on right now, gnx. Phone down, gnx. Because five minutes later. Because that's who Kendrick is. He goes, it's not even a Friday. I'm dropping music. Yeah, it was just a. It was a Tuesday. I don't remember what day it was, but it wasn't a Friday. It was a Wednesday.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: No, it was a Friday. Who dropped the album?
[00:26:46] Speaker B: No, it wasn't Friday, though.
[00:26:47] Speaker A: Yes, it was.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: I don't think it was.
[00:26:48] Speaker A: Yes, it was.
[00:26:49] Speaker B: Are you sure?
[00:26:49] Speaker A: Absolutely. Million percent.
[00:26:50] Speaker C: It was 22nd. It says.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: Yeah, because the Bear Olympics was 23rd. We were setting up the night before the Bear Olympics.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: Well, there we go then. But either way.
[00:26:57] Speaker A: But no warning, no album rollout, nothing.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: His album rollout was Five Minutes of Carnage.
[00:27:02] Speaker A: I heard that his label found out that the album was being released four hours before it was released.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: Crazy that he would even dial up TD or PG Lang, whoever it goes through, and go, oh, by the way, I'm dropping later on.
[00:27:15] Speaker A: Yeah, deal with it.
[00:27:16] Speaker B: And they go, okay, we're not prepped. But Kendrick, you do you.
[00:27:19] Speaker A: And he'll go, you don't need to be.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: You don't need to be. That's the power of Kendrick.
[00:27:23] Speaker A: I mean, I even saw, like, this is. This is a little fun one for the. For the Drake fans out there. Hannah, I'm thinking of you. The. I'm gonna say four or five the Diss tracks. If you add them all up and put them in an ep, they outperform all the top five albums. Unreal in hip hop this year doesn't.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: Surprise me at all.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: And none of those tracks are on this mixtape.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: No.
That's crazy behavior.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: It's naughty. It's insane.
[00:27:50] Speaker B: But it's the same reason when Untitled Unmastered dropped after DAM and his B sides. These are my throwaway songs. Levitate. Throwaway song, which was then the NBA's official song of the. Of the playoffs that whole summer. Yeah, they used levitate. His B sides were better than most rappers. Full length studio projects with millions behind it. And his was like, oh, here's six songs. Oh, there's a seventh one.
[00:28:14] Speaker A: Yep. And crazy. And for those people watching, do you want to know why we've been calling it a mixtape and not an album?
[00:28:22] Speaker B: Because an album is coming.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: There's another one coming, people.
[00:28:25] Speaker B: It's gotta be coming.
[00:28:26] Speaker A: My money's on it. My money's on it.
[00:28:28] Speaker B: All of them.
[00:28:28] Speaker A: All the breadcrumbs have been dropped. All of the producers that worked on.
[00:28:31] Speaker B: That album, we're eating them up.
[00:28:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we've picked up all of the clues. All of the producers that worked on that album are going, well, you ain't seen nothing yet. There's more coming. The clip that was the video that was released, the actual music video, the visual. That song's not even on the album. Yeah, it's. The other thing is, it's like now to kind of go off context a little bit. I really, really enjoyed gnx, but it took me a couple of listens because it's very, very like West Coast LA.
[00:29:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:02] Speaker A: Like 80s 90s rap.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Right.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: You know, like, very obviously Tupac inspired.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: The first five seconds in the last five seconds, which isn't Kendrick.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: It's the. Once you've heard the beat. One, like, phrase of it. Yeah, that's the beat. That's the instrumental. And it's him just doing his thing and it's gonna be great. And the music video for Squabble Up. Yeah, really liked it.
[00:29:21] Speaker A: Unreal. Obviously littered with references and double entendres.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: You know what? I watched this with Dan.
[00:29:25] Speaker A: Did you see Questler from the Roots was, like, in tears when he was like, I can't believe people still even care about that song because they reference the video.
[00:29:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I watched it with Dan, and I was watching it going. There's so many references here are going over my head. And I need someone to break it down because there's a lot of very niche. You have to be there or live there moments that I'm not.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: So many 90s hip hop references.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: There was loads of stuff in there. Like, I was like, okay, what does the sign be up there in the corner? Me. Is that a reference to a film or a show or a lyric in another song? But then there's others. I go, I got that one. That one I know is a famous photo of, like, you know, the guys when they had the blacked out on their eyes.
[00:30:02] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:30:02] Speaker B: And they've. They've joined the. Their colors together.
[00:30:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:06] Speaker B: Very famous picture. The Bloods and Crips doing that.
[00:30:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: After the 90s LA riots.
[00:30:11] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:30:13] Speaker B: So there's a little references I got and Someone went, I need someone to go over and explain that one to me.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's because he united the West, Liam.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: It seems to be so.
[00:30:22] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: And he's gonna do the same in February.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: That's another thing. Why I want to give him props though, because I think that this album mixt was from a lot of stuff I've read as well. It was purely to champion young, like west coast rappers, producers. Sorry. Because there was so many beat makers and producers that are like. There wasn't they like a 20 year old.
[00:30:38] Speaker B: 20 year old. You're born in 2004 and you're on Kendrick's News and you're on Kendrick's stuff.
[00:30:43] Speaker A: What the fuck? Crazy, naughty, crazy.
[00:30:45] Speaker B: When were you born Splinter?
[00:30:47] Speaker C: I don't want to tell you. You're gonna be mean.
[00:30:48] Speaker B: I'm not gonna be mean. I'm just gonna be sad about it.
[00:30:50] Speaker C: 2002.
[00:30:51] Speaker A: 2000.
[00:30:51] Speaker B: 2002.
[00:30:52] Speaker C: January 2002.
[00:30:54] Speaker A: Spider Man's Tom Holland. That. I don't like that.
[00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that's.
[00:30:57] Speaker A: No, it's Andrew garfield.
[00:30:58] Speaker C: That's Tim McGuire always.
[00:30:59] Speaker A: Oh, thank. Respectfully, you're above your age then. I respectfully, yeah. Yes, yes.
[00:31:04] Speaker C: You've both seen my head. I'm definitely 35.
[00:31:08] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyway, so. And yeah, like we say, lots of clues have been dropped. There's another album coming.
[00:31:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:13] Speaker A: Because we. Ironically, when you phoned me to tell me about the clip and after I'd finally got you to pick the phone up, after you were kept pointing down on me, we were saying like, well, obviously he's got the super bowl coming and we knew there was going to be an album before it, so maybe January, if we're lucky, 20 minutes later the album comes, you know, one of them. But yeah, I still think the other albums come in on this, though.
[00:31:34] Speaker B: Are we staying up chatting, playing COD throughout the whole super bowl, watching the half time performance together, then lowering it because NFL football is the driest sport.
[00:31:46] Speaker A: Boring.
[00:31:47] Speaker B: No, it's probably a scotch above baseball because that looks dry as hell as well. They both look boring as hell.
[00:31:51] Speaker C: I think it is.
[00:31:52] Speaker B: Are you a fan of. I've watched a good few Super Bowls because people have been fans of it and invited me over because I've gone have some food, have some drinks, watch it, and I go bear stopping and starting. And my favorite sport is a sport that stops and starts a lot. Not that much, but yeah, I think.
[00:32:07] Speaker C: College football is like way better. Like college football.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: Is that because there's less adverts then I'm guessing It's because they have to commercial.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: They've got more to play for because they're all playing for.
[00:32:16] Speaker C: Yeah, it's quicker. Pays for the draft and it's. Yeah, yeah. So they're playing for drafts and it's more.
[00:32:20] Speaker A: I built for that.
[00:32:21] Speaker B: That makes sense.
[00:32:21] Speaker C: It's a lot more competitive within Mike because they're not really. They are professionals, but it's just like a lower. Like it's seen as lowest. But to watch, like whenever I've seen.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: A clip and when you were. Sam was performing at the Wise Salmon. Whatever it's called in town, that new bar. What's it called?
[00:32:40] Speaker A: The Wise. It's really close knowledge.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Salmon of knowledge. I was so close. And there was a football game playing. The Wise. There was an NFL game playing and every time I looked over, they just queue into the guy on the phone, like with the headset. Who are you chatting to?
What's the. I don't know what your job. Are you the coach? Who could you possibly be talking to?
Are you trying to.
[00:33:01] Speaker A: 0 comments, bro. Because I couldn't give. I couldn't give.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: But every time I looked over, they were all stood in a line just chilling, waiting for obviously a whistle for something to happen. It just seems like there's. Apart from the one clip that went very viral of the guy that does a spin and then he jumps backwards and the guy goes through his legs cold. But is that a Once in a. Is that happen every game?
[00:33:22] Speaker A: Can you imagine, though? Like, do you know what I mean? Abu Dhabi, United v City. Like ref blows the whistle for a free kick. A free kick, quick boots advert.
[00:33:28] Speaker B: Like exhausting. We said on the conspiracy episode because we covered so much. The only reason football, British football, or football as they all pronounce it, isn't massive in America or really big at all is because they went, oh, we can't literate with adverts. Low it then. Yeah, it's probably not that big of a deal because he went two 45 minutes halves. Forget it.
[00:33:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I would be curious to watch like an MLS game. So like the.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Well, Major League.
[00:33:55] Speaker A: I know that. Yeah. Yeah, but. Well, hold on. I know the quality is not.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: Christian Pulisic, the LeBron James of soccer.
[00:34:02] Speaker A: What team does he play for now?
[00:34:03] Speaker B: Chelsea. No, he did play for Chelsea.
[00:34:05] Speaker A: He did play for Chelsea, I'll give you that. Anyway, and I don't mean to actually watch the game. I'm curious to watch it on American network TV and see if they've littered.
[00:34:11] Speaker B: It with like the Premier League and Stuff.
[00:34:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: They've got other banners.
[00:34:14] Speaker A: That culture surely.
[00:34:16] Speaker C: Well, it is. I think they, they throw in a very quick advert when it's.
[00:34:23] Speaker B: And it's a brief sponsor from hot dogs.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: But the actual stream really.
[00:34:29] Speaker C: Well because the time over there is like if it's a 3, 3pm kickoff it's like 9 or 10 in the morning in the state. So a lot of like the younger generation that watch football can get into it more because a. They can actually watch 3:00 kickoffs unlike us because of a stupid law that's been in since the 70s which is still here, which doesn't make sense.
[00:34:50] Speaker A: I don't, I don't mind that law.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: I don't know what this law is.
[00:34:53] Speaker C: What.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: It's the 3 o'clock kickoff law.
[00:34:54] Speaker B: What does that mean?
[00:34:55] Speaker A: So no game at 3 o'clock on a Saturday can be televised and the idea is to keep fans going to the stadiums.
[00:35:03] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's one game.
[00:35:04] Speaker B: But that doesn't make sense because they're going to be at the stadium.
[00:35:06] Speaker A: Yeah. There's not that many games left. Well, at least in top flight football.
[00:35:08] Speaker B: I guess that doesn't make any sense to me because there's going to be fans at the stadium anyway. Why does that make sense?
[00:35:13] Speaker A: No, because the whole point and if you think, well if the World Cup's.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: On a World cup finals on a.
[00:35:18] Speaker A: Saturday, they've got to think like with the ticket prices going up and everything like this like fan attendance is gonna. Is going down and has been going down and the more that games are available to watch online on TV or whatever.
[00:35:29] Speaker B: Because back in the day.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: Anyway.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: So Chroma Copia.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Last time we were here we were predicting the feature list.
[00:35:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And we were wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
[00:35:41] Speaker A: Can you believe we were sat here because that first Saint Chroma clip, the visual we released and there was all the analysis of these people walking behind and that looks like Denzel Curry, that looks like Kendra. That's like Frank.
[00:35:51] Speaker B: Yeah, that's Andre.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: And also we were already like creaming all over this floor that Frank Ocean was going to be on it. We got like three ad libs if that.
[00:36:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: Daniel Caesar, like two ad libs, baby. Keem did a whoop. Literally one ad lib.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:08] Speaker A: That being said, one time got over the disappointment of that. I love it. Give that man his Grammy.
Although it would be next Grammy, it.
[00:36:16] Speaker B: Would be next year's but would they just throw him into the.
Because his only Grammy that he got.
[00:36:22] Speaker A: For Igor was Pop, wasn't it? No, no. Rap.
[00:36:25] Speaker B: No. He got put into rap, but he said he didn't want to be in rap because he was like one. This isn't rap and it's not rap, but it isn't. Also, he said anything that's a little different, they put it into urban because that's the best category for him. And I do respect him for saying that because it does make sense because.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: Igor was way more depending on what.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: The rest of this year drops. Because if Kendrick drops February, is that after the cutoff date? Because that's when the Grammys are.
[00:36:47] Speaker A: Well, this is what we're going to move on to in a second, isn't it? Because they've already announced the ones. Is it January or February?
[00:36:52] Speaker B: I think it's fair at the start.
[00:36:54] Speaker A: Of the year, isn't it?
[00:36:54] Speaker C: Yeah, but.
[00:36:55] Speaker A: Yeah. So I do think Corinne Copy will technically be for next one, but what's your thoughts on the actual album?
[00:36:59] Speaker B: So I said to you. I did a voice note after I finished it and I said, there's a lot of references to other iconic beats that I really liked and I picked up on. But I said, it's very Goblin Bastard. Old Tyler. Like the Tyler I was there listening to at the time when it came out. The first Tyler song I ever heard was Yonkers when it went viral.
[00:37:17] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:37:18] Speaker B: And then went and listened to his albums from then and listen to his stuff with Odd Future. And it feels. There you go. 2nd of February, 25th Grammys.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: That makes sense.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: And it feels very like to me, his older style of very. What I would call weirdo synth, where it's kind of. It's that uncomfortable.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: He sampled the old Quincy Jones stuff. And then he gets a bit spoiled.
[00:37:36] Speaker B: When I really like it. There's no radio hits on it. No. Which I kind of respect.
[00:37:42] Speaker A: Apart from Darling I. My favorite. I think that one's got.
[00:37:45] Speaker B: My favorite is.
It's the one with. Oh, it's close to the bottom.
[00:37:52] Speaker C: Who's the feature on it? I can find it that way.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: No, it's the one. It's got the. It's got something I. And I really love the outro now. I've listened to it a couple times. I just skipped to the outro.
[00:38:01] Speaker A: I hope you find your way home.
[00:38:01] Speaker C: Thought I was dead.
[00:38:03] Speaker A: No, they are the two I wanted.
[00:38:05] Speaker C: I killed you.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: It's two words.
[00:38:08] Speaker A: Can you. Was it on the screen Like Him.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Like Him. It's the outro of like him is absolutely excellent. It's my favorite part of the Whole album. I love it because it's just the same phrase he does and he keeps adding more and more layers of instruments and voices to it. And I think it's a gorgeous. Just stick it on for one second. Skip to like the last 40 seconds.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Will it play for the TV if you.
You can do it like that, I think.
[00:38:36] Speaker B: Hold on, audio listeners.
[00:38:40] Speaker A: Oh yeah. This is Tyler and his peak ace, isn't it?
[00:38:42] Speaker B: This.
Yeah, it's gorgeous. This whole.
[00:38:51] Speaker A: The lad me. Yeah. Love this. Although barking it then.
[00:38:58] Speaker B: But I really love the swing beat on it. Yeah, I think it's gorgeous. And it reminds me of the outro.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: What's the sweet off come if you get lost.
[00:39:07] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah.
[00:39:08] Speaker A: Sugar, you're so sweet.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I get it.
[00:39:10] Speaker A: That like long outro kind of.
[00:39:11] Speaker B: I love it.
[00:39:12] Speaker A: You can tell. You can see his.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: Someone who is a Stevie Wonder fan and a Kanye fan and two people who go, here's your three minute song. I'm doing a nine minute outro. Take it or leave it. And I love it.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: I love that.
[00:39:23] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean? Like say you will. The opening of 808s and heartbreak. Great song. And he goes, I'm doing the same thing for four minutes after. And it's the most basic.
And then he just adds a few little bits in. But it's so basic. But you just listen to it all through because it just so layered.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: My favorite song of all time, that album right there.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: Run Away.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: Run Away, yeah. Fucking four minutes of vocal distortion.
[00:39:50] Speaker B: We love a hefty outro. I'll do it forever or same in one of our favorites and was inspired on that as well on your album was the end of Frank Ocean on Pyramids.
[00:40:01] Speaker A: So I actually.
[00:40:01] Speaker B: You know the guitar solo, it's John Mayer that gorgeous.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: But I actually say when. So Alex Blake. Shout out Alex Blake.
When he laid down the part for that on my tune Addiction, I said to him, I said this song is Pyramids and Runaway and me in like a holy trinity.
[00:40:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: I was like, give me just that John Mayer SNL live version.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: And he did it.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: I was like, give it me.
[00:40:25] Speaker B: And he went, say less.
[00:40:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And he's a Grammy nominated and he's a Grammy winner. He's got a songwriter credit because of it. Grammy nominated albums cold. So there you go.
[00:40:34] Speaker B: Big flex.
[00:40:35] Speaker A: Anyway. But yeah, so I do think it's not. It's not my favorite Tyler Crater album. No, that's like.
[00:40:41] Speaker B: It's not my top three. But that doesn't matter.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: Exactly. That's like what we're talking about GNX with Kendrick. Like.
[00:40:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: Just because it's not in his best five albums ever, it's still.
[00:40:48] Speaker B: I love Dunbar.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: Does it is. It isn't in my top five, but it doesn't matter.
[00:40:51] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:40:52] Speaker B: Doesn't mean it's Bobbins.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: But I think it's. It's a mature Tyler, isn't it? Our boy's grown up.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: He has.
[00:40:57] Speaker A: He's talking about like adult problems.
[00:41:00] Speaker B: He's talking about loneliness a lot. He's talking about his.
[00:41:02] Speaker A: He wants to be a father.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: His version of fame compared to his PE and how his fans treat him compared to his peers and his outward feeling of validation and his inward feeling. He goes on a lot of complex issues. Cause my favorite. And Flower Boy, it's very much a character based atmospheric. Like just gorgeous songs. He was like, I'm not talking about me. I'm just gonna write some really catchy rhythms and some really great songs.
[00:41:30] Speaker A: That's why I loved Ego because I'm a soppy romantic and it was like his cool as fuck love songs. Yeah.
[00:41:36] Speaker C: So are you gonna watch him when he comes to uk?
[00:41:38] Speaker B: Well, he's on both our list because chills are. Seen him. I haven't seen him. Sam's not. And I need to add him to my list.
[00:41:45] Speaker C: Yeah. So he's playing in Birmingham on the 17th of May.
[00:41:47] Speaker B: I put it in a group chat.
[00:41:49] Speaker A: He's.
[00:41:49] Speaker B: Manchester May, isn't it?
[00:41:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Manchester is in May.
Paris and Texas is supporting. Who's the other sport? I can't remember.
[00:41:55] Speaker C: Lil Yai Lil.
[00:41:56] Speaker B: Yeah, as well.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: That lineup alone.
[00:41:59] Speaker C: Yeah. He's doing back to back London. Well, not back to back, but same venue in the space of three days.
[00:42:04] Speaker B: I hope he does.
[00:42:05] Speaker C: Yeah, three. Sorry. He's doing London on the 19th of May 21st and the 22nd.
[00:42:10] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: So I'm hoping he does co op because I've not been.
[00:42:15] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I'm also hoping so because Splinters just told us.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: Mad, I've got a plug.
[00:42:20] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, you definitely gonna have to cut that bear. We ain't getting no plug.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: We'll cut this out.
Albert Hall. Danielle's got a plug through her Work for Men Arena. We've got a plug.
We're killing it.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: I ain't paying for these fucking.
[00:42:35] Speaker B: Unless he's going to do the Etihad, then it would really screw us because it might. He might do a stadium tour. He could fill it.
[00:42:40] Speaker A: Well, I don't.
[00:42:41] Speaker B: More Coldplay.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: And I don't think. I don't think they would. I think it'd be.
[00:42:44] Speaker B: It would be. It'd be co op.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, it'd be co op. Oh, I'm so excited, though, Honestly. I'd absolutely love that so much because he's in my top three. That I've got to see.
[00:42:52] Speaker B: Yeah, we have to see him. If I get him and yay. I could die. And I'm calm.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: I've come to terms. I'm never gonna see. Can you?
[00:42:58] Speaker B: No, I am.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: No. Because even if you're gonna just break our hearts and just like. Yeah.
[00:43:02] Speaker B: But Rogue again, when he did his South Korea show and he had the whiteboard and he did something like 60 songs or something mental, he had so many songs. I was gonna say 70 and 60, but it was about 60 songs. But it's because he did like two.
[00:43:17] Speaker A: Minutes of each one.
[00:43:18] Speaker B: First verse and then chorus of one, and then he just did, like, the back end of another because he was like, my discography is so big. Everyone's hearing from late registration.
[00:43:26] Speaker A: You're not on paper. I hate that idea. But being there. No, for him, for him, for him.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: He's the only person.
[00:43:31] Speaker A: Because he's got enough.
[00:43:32] Speaker B: He's one of the few people who I know that much of your discography.
[00:43:34] Speaker A: Because I want to hear an album track off, like, Life of Pablo. I want to hear.
[00:43:38] Speaker B: You have to dance around and go, give me a little bit of this. Cut it off and go right back to Jesus Walks and then go right ahead to, you know, 24, and then go dance around with it.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: I really don't want to get my hopes.
[00:43:51] Speaker B: I think I'll actually probably burn 2,000, 3,000 calories at a Kanye show. My diaphragm will explode because my voice will be gone and I'll just be.
The whole show be crazy.
[00:44:05] Speaker A: Anyway, we'll move on then swiftly get some Grammy nominations for us. Pull them up, basically, in the last week or two. I can't remember when it was, but the Grammys have. The 20, 25 Grammys have announced the nominations, and I thought I wanted to get a little discussion on each.
[00:44:20] Speaker B: Sure. Beyonce's on it again for every single category.
[00:44:22] Speaker A: First up, we got Album of the year nominees, so we got new blue sun, Andre, 2000, Cowboy Carter, Beyonce, Sean Sweet, Sabrina Carpenter, Brat Charlie, XCX.
[00:44:31] Speaker B: Don't give it Jacob Collier.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: I can never read out.
[00:44:32] Speaker B: I'll do the bottom one.
[00:44:33] Speaker A: How to pronounce it?
[00:44:34] Speaker B: Collier.
[00:44:35] Speaker A: Yeah, not his name.
[00:44:37] Speaker B: Is this sign that D like Django.
[00:44:39] Speaker A: Jessica by Jacob Collier. Hit me hard and soft. Billie EILISH. The Rise and Fall of the Midwest. Princess Chappelle Rowan and the Torture Poets Department. Who is winning it for you?
[00:44:48] Speaker B: Sabrina.
[00:44:49] Speaker A: 21 Sabrina.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it has to go to Sabrina. I think there's cultural album of the year which he probably gives to Brat, no question. Or I think Chaperone. But I think she should more be in the newcomers. Even though I know she's been about for time. It's only really the last year. She's mega popped off. I think gives Sabrina because everything on that album is a back to back slapper. I've got to say I think it's only fair.
[00:45:10] Speaker C: I'm really surprised you've both said Sabrina Carpenter.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: What did you think we'd say?
[00:45:14] Speaker A: I think it's tough for me because.
[00:45:15] Speaker B: I can't give as much I love Andrew 3K. I can't give it to 11 songs about a flute. Do you know what I mean?
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Eleven farts.
[00:45:20] Speaker B: A weird flute.
[00:45:21] Speaker A: If you farted like down a copper pipe it would make a similar noise to half of that album. And Andre 3000 is one of my goats. Yeah, but this list is just proof that the Grammys are absolute Bumba Clarks because why the fuck is that even in there?
This is pop album of the year as well, I'm sure.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: Also don't see Jacob Collie in there. I don't care. You're the Neil Degrasse Tyson of music. I'm not interested in how a keyboard mix works.
[00:45:48] Speaker A: No, I mean I completely agree.
[00:45:50] Speaker B: That makes total sense, doesn't it?
[00:45:51] Speaker A: I completely agree with you but you've worded it brilliantly.
[00:45:53] Speaker B: I'm not interested in how. How what they're called. This scale fits. This kind of just write a good song.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: I always say about Jake.
[00:46:00] Speaker B: The only good Jake Wallace songs I like are covers of other people's music that you shake my hand from there.
[00:46:05] Speaker A: Thank you. Yeah.
[00:46:06] Speaker B: Because.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: Because he's not like trying to rewrite the playbook. Do you know what I mean?
[00:46:11] Speaker B: I get. He knows what goes into the this and that and he knows me. I'm not interested.
[00:46:15] Speaker A: Have you heard him do Best Part by Daniel Caesar Bobbins?
[00:46:17] Speaker B: Oh, no. Anything he does for. Yeah. Daniel Caesar. No, my favorite island piano.
[00:46:21] Speaker C: Yeah, that. Honestly, that performance when he's doing it solo on piano like that.
[00:46:25] Speaker A: That's really good for the first half and then it's. You're the coffee that I need in the morning.
[00:46:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I've heard you do it. I don't like it. Can't be dealing with like it.
[00:46:31] Speaker A: But anyway, I Think I do think it's got to be short and sweet. Sabrina Carpenter. Because as a pop album, it's. It's flawless, man.
Brat.
[00:46:42] Speaker C: It's Brat or Chapel, right?
[00:46:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And Chapo. Ron's the only one there that I've actually like. I've really bashed that album. And I think she's amazing.
[00:46:51] Speaker B: She's up for newcomer, isn't she?
[00:46:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
[00:46:53] Speaker B: Give us a newcomer was like.
[00:46:54] Speaker C: It's just been such an iconic.
[00:46:56] Speaker B: But that's what I'm saying. That's a cultural album, though. I'm not talking. Yeah, I know it did have three vision.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: But what's the top three as well? Like Manchester and like our friendship group. It's been monumental. Brat, hasn't it?
[00:47:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:06] Speaker C: But even like from Londoners as well. I just.
[00:47:09] Speaker A: Yes, I think you get.
[00:47:11] Speaker B: Well, she did. She did SNL a couple weeks ago. Double. She did performing and also did all the sketches. Killed it. She's very funny.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: I just mean, considering this is the Grammys and it's like worldwide and mainly America.
[00:47:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:22] Speaker C: Because she's been on Paul Tour all year.
[00:47:24] Speaker A: So many people would be like, who the fuck is she and why is she walking?
[00:47:26] Speaker B: Let's keep it going.
[00:47:27] Speaker A: We've got a lot to get to. Best new artist. I'll go top then. Benson Boone. Sabrina Carpenter Doetchi. I can never pronounce the name.
[00:47:33] Speaker B: Probably see that from there.
[00:47:34] Speaker C: I think that's actually how you say.
[00:47:35] Speaker A: It and you haven't got a clue what the last one is. Cruange Bin Kerangbin. Oh, yeah. Crang Bin. Yeah, of course.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Come on.
[00:47:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:43] Speaker B: Chapel Rowan, Shabuzi.
[00:47:45] Speaker A: Teddy Swims.
[00:47:46] Speaker B: Teddy Swims from there.
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Right. That is.
You know, I was just gonna say it's super easy for me, but it's not. So. Echi is so sick. Have you listened to much of her?
[00:47:55] Speaker B: No, I've not.
[00:47:56] Speaker A: She's just got a feature on the Tyler album.
[00:47:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:47:59] Speaker A: But I saw loads of clips playing, like an underground show in London recently. Oh, my God, she's incredible. She's absolutely incredible.
Like rapper, but a great singer as well.
[00:48:08] Speaker B: No matter how good she is, she's up against some heavy hitters, but.
[00:48:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true.
[00:48:11] Speaker B: She wouldn't take it over.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: Rey, I think.
[00:48:13] Speaker C: Yeah. That's kind of.
[00:48:13] Speaker B: Ray's also been about for years though, as well.
[00:48:16] Speaker A: This reminds me, Sabrina Carpenter is not a new artist.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: No. Sabrina Carpenter's famous since she was like, nine.
[00:48:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Just because you've blown up in the last year doesn't mean you're a newcomer.
[00:48:22] Speaker B: Did you see that clip of her when she was on her show and she plays a basketball player and she says to the black one, just pretend the balls of piece of fried chicken. Crazy.
[00:48:30] Speaker A: I'll be honest, I didn't know that was a.
[00:48:32] Speaker B: She's been famous since.
[00:48:36] Speaker A: I'm sorry, I'm not giving best new artists to a Disney.
[00:48:38] Speaker B: No.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: So for me it's Ray or Chappelle Rowan.
[00:48:40] Speaker C: Yeah, I think Ray's.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: You keep pronouncing her name different every time you say it. What?
[00:48:45] Speaker A: Which one?
[00:48:46] Speaker C: Chapel.
[00:48:47] Speaker A: Chappelle Rowan. I've always said Chappelle. Is it Chapel Rowan?
[00:48:51] Speaker B: But you keep saying Chapel.
[00:48:52] Speaker C: Chapel Rowan.
[00:48:53] Speaker A: I've always done Chapel. Row one.
[00:48:54] Speaker B: Go on. Let's keep going. The next one. Are we doing all the major. We're not doing, like best contemporary Latin pop.
[00:48:58] Speaker A: Best rap album. Right. This one, I was get Jake confused.
[00:49:02] Speaker B: By this terrible album out of there. Not interested.
[00:49:05] Speaker A: Right, so let's read them out. They might delete later by J. Cole. We've got the Auditorium Volume 1 by Common and Pete Rock. We don't trust you. Future and Metro Booming. The death of Slim Shady, Eminem. Alligator bites never healed. So hit me, Liam. What are you going for?
[00:49:18] Speaker B: It's we don't trust you science. He'll delivered. Get out of it. It's not gonna be Eminem. And I'm even amazed that they were considering because of how many times he's. He said, I'm not interested in the Grammys. Don't ever invite me. I'm never gonna come. And he's so against them because he thinks he said what everyone already knew. And they were incredibly biased.
[00:49:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:49:35] Speaker B: And it's a who they're trying to push. It's who's, you know, who's their new stargirl. Starboy said J. Cole's album might delete late was terrible. Didn't like it at all. And I'm the biggest J. Cole fan.
[00:49:45] Speaker A: Do you not find that list mega disappointing? Because I.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: It is disappointing.
[00:49:48] Speaker A: It's not really great hits. Now. The Kendrick tune on Metro Booming's album is slaps.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:49:55] Speaker A: I love it.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: There's loads of songs on that album that I really like. And Future's a massive. And Metro Boom's a great producer. So I think it's an. Even compared to all these. I just have to go on.
[00:50:03] Speaker A: Yeah. But Alligator Bites Never Healed Though actually is a fantastic album.
[00:50:07] Speaker B: Sure. It is.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: It really is. So I'd love to see it win.
[00:50:10] Speaker C: I'd love to see it.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: I Would absolutely heavy hitters though, because ironically, you know the likes of J. Cole, Common and Eminem, that's three monumental hitters. But three garbage records.
[00:50:18] Speaker C: Yep.
[00:50:19] Speaker A: Well, I'm. I'm being harsh on Common. I haven't even listened to that one. But again with the Grammys. Why is a Common album that no one's heard? I've been nominated for Grammy. Anyway. Go on, we'll move on, keep it going. Best melodic rap performance we got Care about this. Actually, I don't really care about this.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: There's gonna be a few of these we won't care about.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: I don't think I could tell you how many of those songs go. So yeah, any of us record a year now we're talking.
[00:50:38] Speaker C: This is a really interesting.
[00:50:40] Speaker A: I'll go top then now and then the Beatles, Texas Holden, Beyonce espresso Sabrina Carpenter360 Charlie XCX Birds of a Feather.
[00:50:46] Speaker B: Billie Eilish Not Like Us Kendrick Good Luck Babe Chapel Rowan and Fortnite by Taylor Swift and Post Malone.
[00:50:52] Speaker C: I'm going to decide on this.
[00:50:54] Speaker A: Are you really struggling with this?
[00:50:55] Speaker B: No, I think I've got it.
[00:50:56] Speaker A: Go on, what are you going for?
[00:50:58] Speaker B: I think it's 360.
[00:50:59] Speaker A: Do you think?
[00:51:00] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. Billie's got enough Grammys and she's like 11 years old. Give it someone else. And she's got two Oscars at this point.
[00:51:06] Speaker A: But Birds is a fucking banger.
[00:51:08] Speaker B: They're all bangers. They are not Like Us was a mega hit.
[00:51:11] Speaker A: That's the first time I've seen a list on this. On these nominations and thought all of them deserve to be apart from Taylor Swift.
[00:51:15] Speaker B: So not really get now and then out of it.
[00:51:17] Speaker A: 60 years old now and then.
[00:51:18] Speaker B: I don't care if it's been shelved. Not interested, not asked.
[00:51:23] Speaker A: That is a fantastic song. Sure it's a brilliant song.
[00:51:27] Speaker C: It's refreshing.
[00:51:28] Speaker B: It is.
[00:51:28] Speaker A: And I'm sorry, what is this?
[00:51:29] Speaker B: Sorry, is this. Is this Grammy Awards 1968? Nah, but get it out of here.
[00:51:33] Speaker A: Yeah, but you got. You gotta think the 80% of the song was written this year. I think that is one of the only things that like is a champion for AI use in music.
[00:51:44] Speaker B: It's not even a good.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: It's the fact that they could write a song with their dead best mate from 30, 40 years ago and it actually be brilliant.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: Bobbin's album cover not getting a consideration.
Give it Charlie, please.
[00:51:57] Speaker A: But for me, she's everywhere.
[00:51:59] Speaker B: She's so Julia Sam.
[00:52:03] Speaker A: Yeah, 360.
[00:52:04] Speaker C: But the thing is I. I just don't think.
[00:52:07] Speaker B: Or Espresso is gonna win.
[00:52:09] Speaker C: I don't think she'd get any others.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: She's not gonna like her anyway.
[00:52:14] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:52:15] Speaker C: So I think.
[00:52:15] Speaker A: I don't think 360 is the best soon she's had this year.
[00:52:18] Speaker B: So that.
[00:52:18] Speaker A: This is what annoys me about five.
[00:52:21] Speaker C: Has to be, in my opinion.
[00:52:22] Speaker A: What's that one?
[00:52:22] Speaker C: 365. It's like the bumping that.
[00:52:25] Speaker B: And.
[00:52:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I really like guests with Billie Eilish, but I also thought that was, like, commercial enough to be the one.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: I didn't like that song. I don't like a Whisper from a feature.
Whispers. The whole song.
[00:52:36] Speaker A: It was sick, though. I think Espresso was the biggest tune on there, though.
[00:52:39] Speaker B: Espresso. All three. Six. You'll pull it Good.
[00:52:41] Speaker A: Little Babe and Not Like Us are my two favorites on there. So I'm struggling with that. So we'll move on.
[00:52:45] Speaker B: There's some of these lists that are stacked and others are just.
[00:52:47] Speaker A: This is another thing I've always been confused by. And you might be able to educate me here. What the fucking why is Record of the Year and Song of the Year are two different things?
It's not 1969.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: I have no idea what the difference is.
[00:52:58] Speaker C: I'll find out why you discussed.
[00:52:59] Speaker A: Because I'd always thought traditionally you think of a record as an album.
[00:53:03] Speaker B: Yeah, you would.
[00:53:03] Speaker A: But they were all singles.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: Die with a Smile.
[00:53:05] Speaker A: Big fast. So anyway, yes.
[00:53:06] Speaker B: Mellow, innit?
[00:53:07] Speaker A: A bar song. Tipsy. Shabuzi. Birds of Feather. Again. Die with a Smile. Lady Gaga. Bruno Mars. Fortnight Again.
[00:53:13] Speaker B: Good luck, babe. Chapel Row. Not Like Us. Kendrick Lamar. Please, please, please. Sabrina Carpenter. Texas hold'em. Beyonce.
[00:53:20] Speaker A: Because this feels like. I always feel like this feels like an unfair category because for argument's sake, let's say that Beyonce wins both.
[00:53:26] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:53:27] Speaker A: Song of the Year of Texas hold'em. She definitely fucking same. It's the same Grammy, but you got two Grammys.
[00:53:32] Speaker C: It's actually a really interesting difference. The main difference between the Grammy Awards for Record of the Year and Song of the Year is that the Record of the Year recognizes the performance and the production of a song, while the Song of the Year recognize the songwriters.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:53:45] Speaker C: So I actually think that's a really difference.
[00:53:47] Speaker B: They have to also clarify which of these are written by a team of 20 people and which of them are written by.
[00:53:53] Speaker A: So why is Beyonce on there, then?
[00:53:55] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: She's got arcs.
[00:53:56] Speaker B: Because Billie Eilish. That'll be written by her and her brother exclusively. And Beyonce's will have been written by a team of 30 people.
[00:54:03] Speaker A: Chapel roans. Have you seen the clip of her doing Pink Pony Club where she's like 13 or whatever.
[00:54:07] Speaker B: There's like four people.
[00:54:08] Speaker A: But it's the same song. Apart from obviously, because she's playing on her own.
[00:54:11] Speaker B: No shout out to her.
[00:54:12] Speaker A: But it's a fantastic song. That is a brilliant song. But Die with a Smile is a banger. Really is. But I will. No shame at all. Say please, please, please. That was the best tune I've heard all year.
[00:54:23] Speaker B: It's a great song.
[00:54:24] Speaker A: I thought it sound like Blondie and ABBA and everything just like morphed into.
[00:54:28] Speaker B: There's a couple ears that I could see it go to. Don't give it to Beyonce. Give it to anyone else.
[00:54:32] Speaker A: I don't want to see Beyonce winning any Grammys this year.
[00:54:34] Speaker C: Yeah, I could see Kendrick winning this one, actually.
[00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I could.
[00:54:36] Speaker B: If it's because again, he'll pick up a couple though.
[00:54:38] Speaker A: Culturally, that song changed the world, whether people like it or not.
[00:54:42] Speaker B: Next one.
[00:54:43] Speaker A: Best pop solo.
[00:54:43] Speaker B: Do we care about this one?
[00:54:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. It'd be pretty quick one though, because it's the same with what we already discussed. So best pop solo performance. Bodyguard, Beyonce, Espresso, Spina, Carpenter, Apple Charlie xcx, Birds of a Feather, Billie Eilish and Good Luck Babe. Chappelle Rowan solo performance. I think it has to be.
It has to be Spinach Carpenter because I think vocalist is incredible. She gets a lot of stick for like, Give it to her for miming and orchard and all this. But vocally she is the best there.
[00:55:06] Speaker B: Give it to her.
[00:55:07] Speaker A: Although I prefer Chappelle Rowan's voice.
[00:55:09] Speaker B: Give it to her.
[00:55:10] Speaker A: Chapel Roan. Sorry, Chapel Roan.
[00:55:13] Speaker B: Yeah, she's. They're in everything this year.
[00:55:15] Speaker A: Chaplin pop vocal album. So it's Sabrina, Billie Eilish, Ariana Grande, Chapel Rowan, Taylor Swift pop vocal again.
[00:55:22] Speaker C: It's like Taylor's gonna win it though, isn't it? Let's be real.
[00:55:25] Speaker B: Taylor could fart into a mic for the night.
[00:55:26] Speaker C: If they're gonna give it any of them, they're gonna give her like.
[00:55:29] Speaker A: This is what I'm talking about. Because if we're talking.
[00:55:31] Speaker B: I can't get behind this where the.
[00:55:32] Speaker A: Grammys are fucked up, though, because we're talking by definition of what they. The genre's for best pop vocal, it has to be someone like Sabrina Ori. To be fair, I don't even know the album. But Ariana Grande. Because, like, she's a goat at what she does.
[00:55:45] Speaker B: Yeah. She goods.
[00:55:46] Speaker A: Taylor Swift is not a better singer than anyone else on that list.
[00:55:48] Speaker B: No. Or a performer.
[00:55:49] Speaker A: Or a performer.
[00:55:50] Speaker B: I know it's pop vocal, but still.
[00:55:51] Speaker C: I've seen her blow her nose into her hand on stage.
[00:55:54] Speaker B: Crazy. I saw that. And she's just like. And it's like sliding off her fingers. It makes it so grim. There's one clip where she's like dead.
[00:56:01] Speaker C: Eye contact with a fan and she's like.
[00:56:03] Speaker B: Flicks it at them as well.
[00:56:04] Speaker C: I'm like, oh, yeah.
[00:56:05] Speaker B: But they had their mouth wide open.
[00:56:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Not being funny. They were cupping sick for Justin Bieber and flogging it. Weren't they on ebay? So maybe that goes his way.
[00:56:12] Speaker B: Can we stop doing this with famous people, please? Can we just dial it back? Can we just lower it?
[00:56:16] Speaker C: So what are you deciding what Sabrina or.
[00:56:19] Speaker A: I think it's gotta be Sabrina. Sabrina hit me next.
[00:56:23] Speaker C: Actually, I just want to touch on one thing about being a vocal album. I think because it's prioritizing the vocal and Bill Eilish's layering of vocal across all the songs might just give her the edge on that. If you're looking at like, what about Billie?
[00:56:38] Speaker B: Billy?
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Oh, right, yeah.
[00:56:39] Speaker C: Because Billie, like, obviously with Phineas, the.
[00:56:41] Speaker B: Genius for producing top tier duo.
[00:56:44] Speaker C: If we're talking vocal pop, that should be a contender for it.
[00:56:47] Speaker A: But that's why I thought Sabrina might. Because it's as much as Billie has dominated pop, like Sabrina Carpenter was proper Princess Pop in it.
[00:56:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:54] Speaker A: It was chart pop, best pop duo, group performance. So I haven't listened to Oz by Grace Adams, Taylor Swift.
[00:57:01] Speaker B: No. Give it to divers Smile, Easy peasy.
[00:57:05] Speaker A: Or guess I. I know you didn't like. I think Guest was a tune and I thought that was a match made in heaven. Charlie XX and Billy and I think it's the only thing that's a chance of winning.
[00:57:14] Speaker B: So stylish. I'm not talking about the music video, but Die with a Smile Yourself is so stylish.
[00:57:19] Speaker A: Next. I'm happy with that, thank you.
[00:57:21] Speaker B: Next.
[00:57:21] Speaker C: Do you not think Charlie and Lord's song of Girl so confusing could have won this as well?
[00:57:27] Speaker B: Yeah, couldn't have.
[00:57:28] Speaker A: Guess was bigger. I think that's.
[00:57:29] Speaker C: Oh, I guess because it's Billy.
[00:57:30] Speaker A: That was Billy. That's why I think it's the only reason. Only chance she'd have a win in it.
[00:57:34] Speaker B: Oh, Skip, I'm not asked about dance.
[00:57:35] Speaker A: Electronic record because, let's be honest, Fred again's gonna win it.
[00:57:37] Speaker B: We've done all the major.
[00:57:39] Speaker A: Always cleans up, don't he?
[00:57:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:41] Speaker B: He went back to back last year.
[00:57:42] Speaker A: Justice in Taming Parlor, though. Never ended. That was a tune.
[00:57:45] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:57:45] Speaker A: Wow. That was a tune. And shout out to Phoebe Rogue. We've basically ripped off that song. Yeah.
[00:57:49] Speaker C: Who's that?
[00:57:51] Speaker A: Best dance electronic album. Right. So this has to be. It has to be brat. But I won't be surprised if it goes Kate Ronaldo.
[00:57:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:58] Speaker C: I really hope she comes away with.
[00:57:59] Speaker A: Like, at least she deserves something.
It's the absolute peak of a career.
[00:58:03] Speaker B: Yeah. She probably won't be able to hit this height again.
[00:58:06] Speaker C: I think that's all of them. Yeah.
[00:58:07] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:58:07] Speaker B: Well, you know what? There's some good picks now, and I.
[00:58:09] Speaker A: Think we've always been wrong on every one of them.
[00:58:10] Speaker B: No, we'll nail a lot of them.
[00:58:11] Speaker A: Can't wait for Beyonce to win best.
[00:58:13] Speaker B: Literally just gonna breathe in to say Beyonce will clean them up anyway. Or every one of them. If they beat her, we'll thank Beyonce because that's the new thing.
[00:58:22] Speaker A: Can't wait for Katie to go up there and thank. Beyond saving, though. He's never.
[00:58:25] Speaker B: You know, he's never been in the same category as her.
[00:58:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:28] Speaker B: So.
[00:58:29] Speaker A: Right. Just for some context, that's got a dog in the room who's lost his tennis ball under the sofa.
[00:58:34] Speaker B: He's crying.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: And even though you probably can't hear that when we're trying to talk, I just keep hearing.
[00:58:38] Speaker B: Thing is, if you've heard Naru do it when it drops. It's so much loud.
[00:58:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:58:43] Speaker B: She does this.
[00:58:44] Speaker C: You know what? You've done well to not mention it up until an hour in April.
[00:58:48] Speaker A: That was.
[00:58:48] Speaker B: That was. Ironically, that's the loudest end to hear.
[00:58:51] Speaker A: Why the mic? All right. Is he just.
[00:58:54] Speaker B: That's the loudest he's been. To be honest, I don't think the.
[00:58:56] Speaker A: Mic'S will have picked that up. No, I just feel like I have to acknowledge it anyway.
[00:58:59] Speaker B: Right, that's info. Hats on.
[00:59:01] Speaker C: So for the audio, list, half an hour on the pod.
[00:59:04] Speaker A: For the audio, ignore the 20 minutes.
The tinfoil hats are out. For our audio listeners, do you know why the tin foil hats are out?
Aliens are real, baby. We've been telling you. We've been warning you.
[00:59:21] Speaker B: So by the time you see this on YouTube or TikTok.
[00:59:24] Speaker A: Yeah. You probably already shook hands with one.
[00:59:26] Speaker B: By the time there's been an invasion.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: By now, they'll be in TK Maxx already.
[00:59:29] Speaker B: Yeah. They're already shopping for garbs in TK Maxx.
[00:59:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:31] Speaker B: Looking for some Lecoq sportif joggers.
[00:59:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
ET's already been in JD so obviously.
[00:59:37] Speaker B: Covering this afterwards, after the. Did you, what did you watch the thingy yet?
[00:59:43] Speaker A: The full. Give them context, give them, Tell them why we're bringing this back up then.
[00:59:46] Speaker B: We're bringing this back up because obviously.
[00:59:47] Speaker A: For the non believers out there, Dave Smith talking to you.
[00:59:50] Speaker B: Yeah. If you listen to this, two weeks ago, give or take, there was four people who were previous or current members, whistleblowers of some form of military or government bonded Pentagon.
[01:00:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:00:03] Speaker B: There was the, like the industrial military complex. There was the Pentagon. There was a guy who represented NASA in some capacity and the other one.
[01:00:10] Speaker A: Was an admiral in the Navy seals.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: One was an admiral in the naval Sea. Navy seals. Hence why he went. They're in the water, they're in the oceans.
[01:00:17] Speaker A: Hence the change of name from UFO to uap.
[01:00:20] Speaker B: Uap, which I think.
[01:00:21] Speaker A: What does UAP stand for, Liam?
[01:00:24] Speaker B: I don't know what mate went super blank there. Unidentified Aerial Phenomena. No, it's not unidentified.
[01:00:29] Speaker A: Anonymous. No, it's changed again. So this is.
[01:00:32] Speaker B: Oh, they did, yeah.
[01:00:33] Speaker A: Because it was. Changed it from UFO to UAP for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
[01:00:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: To try and get rid of the stigma of UFOs. But then after this not so recent revelation, I guess, because if you've got your ear to the ground like us geeks do.
[01:00:45] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: We've known that they've been going in the water and stuff, but Ariel doesn't cut it anymore.
[01:00:50] Speaker B: Well, they've also changed that. They want to even talk about the term for alien. They're now doing ebes. I don't know which is extraterrestrial biological entity.
[01:01:00] Speaker A: That makes sense because. So again, I think we got excited. So for full context then, so those four government officials swore under oath in Congress. So for you small minded UK Brits listening to this, that's like Keir Starmer stepping up in Parliament and saying this like it's as official as it gets. You can't call this fake anymore. You can't call it BS anymore. It's as official as it gets. And they stood up under oath and confirmed they are in possession of aircrafts or whatever.
[01:01:28] Speaker B: Biologics.
[01:01:29] Speaker A: And they said biologics. They said, we refuse to call them aliens. Yeah, because you're all going to think of et, you're knocking about.
[01:01:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:35] Speaker A: Here he is. Are you on camera now? Dogs sat at my leg. Are you going to chill out and stop screaming? Because we'll talk about aliens now.
[01:01:40] Speaker C: Maybe he's coming. Sorry to shut the fuck up.
[01:01:42] Speaker A: Maybe he's one of them.
[01:01:43] Speaker B: I think honestly at this point, there's no one. I think the harshest alien skepticism and the most passionate believer that we're alone. I think I could convince him at this point.
[01:01:52] Speaker A: This is why we want to bring this back up now.
[01:01:54] Speaker B: Listen to this person.
[01:01:54] Speaker A: You're not a crap pot anymore. We ain't tinfoil tin head of the hats.
[01:01:59] Speaker B: I think there's no one I couldn't convince at this point with the information.
[01:02:02] Speaker A: Can you believe that we're in an era now where. And to be fair, Splinter. We're kind of like educating Splinter on this because he doesn't. He's not. He's not heard about a lot.
[01:02:10] Speaker C: I'm in denial about this shit. I don't.
[01:02:11] Speaker B: Are you agnostic or you. Are you an agent?
[01:02:13] Speaker A: I've got a cream for that.
[01:02:15] Speaker B: Nice.
[01:02:16] Speaker A: So you're kind of like just denying it because you don't want it to. You don't want to die. Yeah.
[01:02:21] Speaker B: You're a fencer.
[01:02:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm a fencer. I believe. I definitely believe there's some like.
[01:02:26] Speaker B: Because here's my thing, though. There's nothing that I don't believe that I haven't seen. Unbelievable backing from either.
Like witnesses. Documentation, I think is really hard to dispute. Where you can go on the CIA.gov FBI.gov, whatever, on these websites, there's a mass. And they've got reels and reels of documents from up to 100 years ago.
[01:02:49] Speaker A: J. Edgar Hoover, the head of the FBI in the 60s, has signed documents that were read out by Luis Elizondo.
[01:02:58] Speaker B: Elizondo, that's it.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: Who swore under a pencil by the way he shows this document. And J. Edgar Hoover was literally confirming and trying to communicate with the Russians during the Cold War that if something comes over the horizon, they need to phone up. Up.
The Russians need to phone the Americans, the Americans need to phone the Russians and check it's not a ufo. That's how.
[01:03:18] Speaker C: Seriously, the quote is absolutely insane.
[01:03:20] Speaker B: So Luis Elizondo, the former US Count intelligence officer for the Pentagon, excessive secrecy has led to grave misleads against loyal civil servants, military personnel and the public, all to hide the fact that we are not alone in the.
[01:03:35] Speaker A: He said that under oath in Congress.
[01:03:37] Speaker B: Also very nicely said. Poetic.
[01:03:40] Speaker A: So this is the thing as well.
This Louise guy, he was on Joe Rogan and Stephen Bartlett.
[01:03:45] Speaker B: He was.
[01:03:46] Speaker A: And he basically told the same.
[01:03:47] Speaker B: It was very well credit Very credible person.
[01:03:50] Speaker A: Exactly. But he's got a book out and what he was explaining on his podcast is that he's been through all of the rigorous checks for him to get this book signed off. So everything he said in it, he's been allowed to say it's been approved. So this is what's mind blowing as well, because he's talking about stuff on these podcasts that is just bending your brain backwards and then also saying, oh, but I'm not allowed to talk about that. So, like, if this is what he's allowed to talk about, you know what I mean? It's insane. And it's because he was basically saying that, let's say he reckons there's a dead split between 50% and 50% of the government that don't want people to know and 50% that do. And he said, and I actually this made a lot of sense to me and it kind of, it made me think. But he said the 50% that don't want the world to know, he said, I don't think it's because they don't believe or anything like this. He said, what we've got to a point now is that, that these people are working national security. So the absolute priority of their jobs is to think about the safety of people in the country, not just the world or whatever.
So the reason they don't want it to get out is because they have to think paranoid.
[01:04:49] Speaker B: Like makes sense.
[01:04:50] Speaker A: They have to think in paranormal.
[01:04:51] Speaker B: They're the worst case scenario.
[01:04:52] Speaker A: Yeah. And they have to think that if these aliens or whatever are here monitoring us and we reveal that we know they're there, we're forcing their hand to act.
[01:05:00] Speaker B: It's a very good point.
[01:05:01] Speaker A: So they could be here peacefully. Personally, I think they're here peacefully because they've been here for.
[01:05:05] Speaker B: I think they are.
[01:05:06] Speaker A: We've got proof they've been here for over 100 years.
[01:05:08] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:05:09] Speaker A: But I'm personally convinced they've been around as long as we have. If we are not them, do you know what I mean?
[01:05:15] Speaker B: If we're not there, it's a great point.
[01:05:16] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? But my point being, I think we'd definitely know by now if they were here to just kill us all.
[01:05:22] Speaker B: But on the point on that is that Bob Lazar, obviously, very famously, if you've not listened to it yet, go into Joe Rogan's and listen to it.
[01:05:29] Speaker A: You mean the man who has the biggest I told you so in human.
[01:05:31] Speaker B: The biggest I told you so he worked at a base called S4 in the the late 80s back engineering a craft because his whole thing was propulsion systems. So he understood how to make things go. And he worked on a craft that he said had no signs of.
Didn't give off any heat, didn't give off of any smoke, steam, anything to. Yeah, to go. And that's how we understand everything to move in our world.
[01:05:54] Speaker A: And discovered a new element in this.
[01:05:55] Speaker B: And discovered a new element. And everything he spoke about in the 80s has in the years come. Has come true and things we found out have come to light. And just backed up his story more credibly and he said he's lost friends, money, job, everything. He's nothing to gain from all this apart from everything that's gone run for it. And he said that his craft that he worked on was an archaeological find.
[01:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:06:18] Speaker B: Meaning it wasn't something that they had fresh.
[01:06:20] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:06:21] Speaker B: This was something that's been around for however long it's been.
[01:06:24] Speaker A: And he was saying this, I'm gonna call it an engine because there's no other word for it, just so people could paint the picture. It's like an orb and whatever. This element, 115, the element that they found in it, it was basically like anti gravity, wasn't it?
[01:06:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Is there like two magnets opposing each other?
[01:06:37] Speaker A: So you know when like. And I realized. To go off on a tangent, I realized I've not said this on our cults and conspiracies one, but you know, so the Tic Tac UFOs, the ones that the most popular splinter. Have you ever seen a clip of those ones that look like Tic Tacs in the air and they like.
[01:06:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I've seen a few of them.
[01:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah. They're the most popular ones that people have all seen. And now hand on heart, my mum has been telling me since I was a kid that she saw something in the sky. And my mum's like ironically has been jumping well on the bandwagon with this and has been loving it. But like my mum was not really been a UFO person or whatever, but she said I saw something when she said she saw something when she was like 10, 11, 12 in Manchester in the sky. And it was like three or four white dots that were like, look like she used the word tic tac.
And she's telling me this story 15 years ago by the way. And she saw him, whatever told her dad, my granddad came out, saw him as well, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, and then when I'm like 17, 18, I'm going to say she saw him again in our garden.
[01:07:33] Speaker B: Crazy.
[01:07:33] Speaker A: And was like, oh, my God. Anyway. Yeah. And now they're like the most popular.
[01:07:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:07:39] Speaker A: In that everyone has claimed to see or have been knocked around and. Sorry. The reason that they can jump around like that is because of this exact engine in quotation mark that Bob Lazar's talking about because it doesn't conform to what the physics as we know it. So there isn't a push and a pull. There is no force on it. It has its own gravity. So it can go at the speed of light and then stop dead.
[01:08:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:08:01] Speaker A: And that's also why it can. It's amphibious. And go underwater as well. So it's just nuts.
[01:08:06] Speaker B: On the example on that splinter, if you type in Commander David Fravor, he's the one who famously captured it. The TikTok, the Tic Tac UFO.
[01:08:14] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:08:14] Speaker B: And it was in like 2004 or something. And he was head of. He was RAF, he was royal Air Force, and his whole thing was that they were testing out these F18s that they had. They were like cutting edge technology planes, the fastest in the world. The very, very best the US had to offer. And they tracked this UFO when he was doing this exercise, and it was traveling so much faster than them. And they said. And it was giving off no heat signature because obviously on their infrared, they can see exhaust or whatever heat. And this thing was just moving so quick and they tracked it and they said, if I remember it correctly, that the human body can go up to something. Like.
[01:08:52] Speaker A: I was just about to say this, just to confirm as well, this Luis guy. It was Luis. I can't say I keep Lizondo.
[01:09:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:00] Speaker A: Elizondo. It was him saying this under oath again.
[01:09:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Backing him up.
[01:09:04] Speaker A: So. Yeah, he said that. So basically, splinter.
[01:09:06] Speaker B: That was it, 2004. Yeah.
[01:09:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:09:08] Speaker B: Incident.
[01:09:09] Speaker A: So if you think about like. Like in speed, as in like GS. So if you're in an F15. So it was F15 or whatever it's called.
[01:09:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:09:16] Speaker A: So they said that humans can go. Now, I can't remember because this was two or three weeks galaxies, but let's just say it was between six and eight. If you get to like eight GS, we'll pass out.
[01:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:09:25] Speaker A: And like anything over eight, you're like. You could die.
[01:09:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:28] Speaker A: Like your blood just isn't supposed to travel like that. And our F. Let's say they're F15s, because I can't remember. The fastest that we've got can go to 16, 17 GS before they start literally melting.
[01:09:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:09:39] Speaker A: And like.
[01:09:39] Speaker B: Cause your body just can't handle that kind of pressure.
[01:09:41] Speaker A: No, not like the actual aircraft will just start melting and deforming.
[01:09:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:09:45] Speaker A: Because it's not supposed to go that quick. The aircraft they have in their possession can go upwards of 2 to 3,000 GS.
[01:09:51] Speaker B: 2 to 3,000 GS? Who said it's. And the way it was moving, it could go and stop at a dime and could zip in any other direction. And he said, nothing on earth can move like that. And they've got. They said the proof they had was they had a him who's a commanding officer, his whole team of his squad. And they tracked it on radar, they tracked it visually, they tracked it like in every possible way they could on satellite. Said we've got it tracked under so many different variables that unless this is just the most unbelievable fake story. It couldn't even be fake because you can see the official video of them talking about.
[01:10:26] Speaker A: But this is the thing, though. It's the way that they think they're following it and it just shows that it's messing with us because they follow it for so long and then it just dips. It's like they think they're keeping up with it.
[01:10:35] Speaker B: Yeah. They said they were so much faster than they.
[01:10:37] Speaker A: This is why this Luiz guy's like, you've got to think there could be an element of them just showing us their performance capabilities to threaten us 100%.
[01:10:44] Speaker B: But this is the thing that Bob Lazar gave an example. I saw an interview and I think it's so clever. And he said that if you took a nuclear reactor, like a portable one.
[01:10:51] Speaker A: I love this one.
[01:10:51] Speaker B: And you dropped it in Victorian times to the people that.
[01:10:54] Speaker A: Aztecs. He said, I think not even.
[01:10:56] Speaker B: No, not even them. I'm going just 100 years ago, before they even knew what radiation was and they opened it up, they would all die from the radiation.
[01:11:03] Speaker A: They wouldn't even know why.
[01:11:04] Speaker B: And they wouldn't know why. And they would assume it was magic or they would assume it was cursed. And anyone that came and checked them, they would also die. And to them at that time, that is magic, because there's nothing giving it off. And it's just this thing and it says it's the exact same thing with what they were dealing with. They were like, this is so beyond our time, what we've got.
[01:11:22] Speaker A: Yeah, that's impossible. We can't compute it.
[01:11:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's impossible to say. And I think there's my newest conspiracy. I only thought about this the last like leading up to this. It makes total sense why the government wouldn't want it to get out there and make it obvious that we've got this stuff. Do you know why? Because it shuts down entire industries overnight. If we find out your car doesn't need petrol anymore because we've got this other technology, all of that, that whole industry, billions and billions goes under overnight. If you find out now that we can do things differently, aircraft travel. Yeah, totally different now because we don't need to pay for it.
[01:12:00] Speaker A: Think about religion and stuff.
[01:12:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I was just about to say war, politics.
[01:12:05] Speaker B: You got major religious industries going belly up under overnight and people in mass panic because everything they thought they knew.
[01:12:13] Speaker A: Has just totally gone for you now then. And I think it was Louise who said it and it might have been Ronald Reagan he was referencing. But he said the other reason that's scary of why the government might be becoming more lenient on people finding out this kind of stuff is because there's only one circumstance where everyone in the world would agree to being governed by one body. And it's as if we were by an extraterrestrial threat.
[01:12:38] Speaker B: It makes sense why there's some people. I've seen this for the longest time and that the government's pushing even fake stories out because they want to get everyone if they can go, hey, we all need to get on the same team. Yeah, let us rule and govern you. Because we need to be careful because of them. One government control over everyone is a dangerous amount of power that someone would definitely want to have and it's not a good idea.
[01:13:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, we could talk about this all day and I'm. Every time we do this I want to just do a 10 episode series on it. But one story I really, really want to tell because it's the one that sticks with me the most especially because. And splinter. You'll like this but. And it's the one I like telling the most because it's. If anyone, if you've never paid any attention in this stuff, you've still heard a story about someone spotting someone in the sky. Can I guess? Go on.
[01:13:24] Speaker B: Zimbabwe, 1994.
[01:13:26] Speaker A: No, I like that one though. You tell me that one after this.
[01:13:29] Speaker B: Go.
[01:13:29] Speaker A: No, the reason I'm telling this one is because so many people who don't pay attention to this stuff have never heard of anything alien related underwater.
[01:13:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah.
[01:13:36] Speaker A: So this Louise, just call him Louise. Louise. Yeah, my guy Louise, he was talking to some Navy SEALs.
And he said, this is four or five members of this team that have all been under a lie detector test. And it's his job. What we've not discussed as well is that I can't remember what it was called, but he ran the government department that oversaw monitoring UAP presence Disney, didn't he? And that's why he's on that panel in Congress. But anyway, so he was the one who's supposed to rigorously check and question these people. Yeah, they all passed the lie detector test, but these four or five blokes, they were. Yeah, they work in. They're in the US military, but basically they're testing torpedoes.
[01:14:15] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:14:16] Speaker A: You'll start to ring a bell now.
[01:14:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know what you mean. Go ahead.
[01:14:19] Speaker A: So they test torpedo splinter and they go through the water, but they're just testing the end. Like the propulsion of the torpedo, it doesn't actually explode, so how fast it can travel underwater. So they'll fire it, it'll go underwater, and then once it's run out of steam, it stops a little like, parachute comes up, it floats to the top of the ocean. And then a helicopter goes out with these four or five blokes on it. And one guy who's called the frogman goes down this little ladder, they hook it up to helicopter and they fuck off back home. Yeah, he said these four, all four or five of these blokes retold this story, Right. He said that they, when they went down the ladder to pick it up, he said, a mass, a black mass. And he said they referenced it as dark as the devil appeared. And he couldn't see the end of it. It was that big. Appeared just before it breached the surface, a tiny little, like, whirlpool opened up, sucked the torpedo out of this guy's hand, and he's frantically getting back up the ladder and it left, and then it just disappeared again.
[01:15:14] Speaker B: You'd be terrified.
[01:15:17] Speaker A: Now, is that not way scarier than all of these little tit ones that people are seeing?
[01:15:21] Speaker B: Yes, it is.
[01:15:22] Speaker A: And then when you think about the fact that 97% of the ocean we've never discovered we know more about the stars than we do about the ocean.
I mean, you don't even want to talk about the Antarctic Circle and all that shit.
[01:15:33] Speaker B: We need a whole episode for that.
[01:15:34] Speaker A: The fact that every country in the world's got a treaty to not go into a certain bit, you know, I mean. Yeah, no, it's scary stuff, but what I'm saying is, like. And that's well, what I also want to say is there's another one, is that there was. They've got footage. He said they've got footage. And he said it's 4K footage from a military aircraft. But I'm obviously. He said. I'm obviously not allowed to disclose it, but he said of them going over an oil tanker. Not an oil tanker. You know the royal rig. Yeah, the ones that. Like a small city on legs.
[01:15:59] Speaker B: Enormous.
[01:16:00] Speaker A: He said they're huge. And he said they've got footage of this black mass appearing next to it that was five times the size of this oil rig.
[01:16:08] Speaker B: Crazy.
[01:16:09] Speaker A: Slowing down, stopping next to the oil rig and then speeding off at over 4, 5, 600 knots, which is like, quicker than anything can go underwater.
[01:16:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Mental. Fish getting chopped up, Fish getting mashed up.
[01:16:23] Speaker A: Well, I mean, when you think about that now, I think it flips everything that we know into. Into, like. Into abyss. I mean, like we were watching the second Megalodon film last night and obviously it was shit. And we were talking about how shit it was.
[01:16:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:16:36] Speaker A: But like, it was really fucking racking your brain because, you know, you think about stuff like the giant squid now and stuff. You know, it's been seen like twice in humanity or whatever. I mean, there's that.
[01:16:46] Speaker B: That we have seen more that under there that we don't know. Yeah. It's just nuts 100%.
[01:16:52] Speaker A: So I did like. Whatever's. Whatever's out there, it's here and we need to. People need to get to terms with it.
[01:16:59] Speaker C: I don't wanna.
[01:17:00] Speaker A: I know. I can't believe we're in an era now where if you'd have took it back. I was gonna say 100 years. Took it back 20 years. 10 years. You are a Looney Tune. You're a tinfoil AP man. If you believe in aliens.
[01:17:11] Speaker B: We said this earlier.
[01:17:11] Speaker A: I think you're an idiot if you don't now.
[01:17:13] Speaker B: I really do. If in my primary school, high school ever, you were someone who was actually believed in Alie. You were a loopy.
[01:17:18] Speaker A: You were loopy. You were loopy.
[01:17:20] Speaker B: You're actually a nutter.
[01:17:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:17:21] Speaker B: But now it feels like if you're someone that's not targeted, you split it. Because you're agnostic and you're convinced by the end of this, I'll show you some stuff.
[01:17:27] Speaker A: I'll get that cream as well.
[01:17:30] Speaker B: If you're someone who's absolutely against you, you think we're alone, then you're actually probably seen more as the loopy one because you're thinking, you think the whole.
[01:17:38] Speaker A: Then you're in denial because you're a human being and like you don't want to admit it. And that's why I think it's fascinating when you come to religion and stuff because I think there's all these same conspiracies that are now becoming. Not conspiracies. There's also. What I think we've got to be very careful about is that it's pulling along other stories and validating other stories. I mean you hear some mental stuff about the Catholic Church's involvement in the knowing of UFOs, let's just say, or.
[01:18:06] Speaker B: Whatever, or put it far more than that.
[01:18:07] Speaker A: And covering stuff up because of the fear of like just what did we get? Masses. Just not a billion people.
[01:18:15] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:18:16] Speaker A: So. And you gotta think. And then I understand also that when you think of religious leaders and world leaders that they wouldn't want to tell us that because if everybody in the world who has a belief or a faith in the moment found out about aliens, I reckon the numbers of people that would suddenly not believe or would double down and call it all fake. I'd love to see those numbers.
[01:18:36] Speaker B: Or both ago or both. I still believe in what I believe in.
[01:18:39] Speaker A: But yeah, aliens are about how many. How many faiths have evolved their creation story since science has come out and stuff like that.
[01:18:47] Speaker B: Right.
[01:18:47] Speaker A: Loads of them.
[01:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:18:48] Speaker A: You know, but I feel like aliens has got to be a pretty set in stone conflict, let's say.
[01:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%.
[01:18:57] Speaker A: I mean, because if man's made in God's image, what's this little ET fellow doing?
[01:19:01] Speaker B: Very poetic. I don't know who said it, but the court that said either we are alone in this universe or we're not. And both equally as terrifying.
[01:19:10] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[01:19:10] Speaker B: It's crazy because it's such a.
[01:19:11] Speaker A: Well, that's.
[01:19:12] Speaker B: Well put that gorgeous quote, isn't it?
[01:19:13] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:19:13] Speaker B: Because you think about it, if it's the biggest coincidence ever and everything is, you know, I really like the scale of the universe that Neil Degrasse Tyson said where he said that each grade. If you imagine each grain of sand. There we go. That's crazy, Clark. Each grain of sand on every single beach is. There's There are more stars. And then if each grain of sand was a solar system with each had billions of stars. That's how infinitely vast it is.
[01:19:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:19:42] Speaker B: And you think the universe is right where you stay in.
[01:19:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:19:45] Speaker B: And nowhere else. I think it's kind of crazy.
[01:19:47] Speaker A: I'm really frustrated because I was trying to Remember some incredible, like, statistics for this because we've been wanting to do for aliens.
[01:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:19:55] Speaker A: But it was more about.
So, like the speed of light. So it was something. I can't remember if this is going to really do. Can you Google it for me?
[01:20:02] Speaker B: It's about the speed of light and the dimension of the pyramids being the exact same.
[01:20:04] Speaker A: No, no, no, that one's mental. But how far, how fast, how many times around the Earth you could. Light can travel in one light year or in a second.
[01:20:14] Speaker B: It's eight times in one second.
[01:20:15] Speaker A: I thought it was seven. So that makes sense. Seven times in a second.
[01:20:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:18] Speaker A: So a light year is obviously how much light can travel in a year. Right. So the observable universe from. If you stood on, if you stood in Australia or you stood in the uk, so obviously if they look outwards, they're looking at the opposite side of the universe to we are. But the observable universe, we are now capable of seeing 13.8, I think it was billion light years away. So then if you. Times that by two. Because if we're looking up and looking down, for example, let's say it's like, what, 28. Let's just say 28 billion. They still think that's less than 10% of the known universe.
[01:20:50] Speaker B: Oh, I don't think it's even close. I think it's far, even bigger than that.
[01:20:54] Speaker A: There you go. 7.5.
[01:20:55] Speaker B: We were both right.
[01:20:56] Speaker A: There you go.
[01:20:56] Speaker B: I said eight, you said seven.
[01:20:58] Speaker A: But this is like, this is why it's inconceivable for us. I mean, this is what Lewis was talking about as well. And you'll like this. This is one thing that really puts. It really flipped stuff for me because we're talking about the fact that obviously everybody involved in this stuff now, and government positions even, they turn their nose up at talking about aliens or whatever because they're thinking like, you know, bacteria on the moon is an alien.
[01:21:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:21:21] Speaker A: I mean, so anything's an alien to us.
[01:21:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:21:24] Speaker A: We're an alien to something else, whatever. But they were talking about the fact that if you think about the fact that a hundred years ago, we. We didn't even know the dominant species, microorganisms, bacteria. We didn't know that the dominant species on this planet existed because we couldn't see them.
[01:21:39] Speaker B: We're the dominant species.
[01:21:41] Speaker A: No, we're not.
[01:21:42] Speaker B: Yeah, of course we are.
[01:21:42] Speaker A: No, we're not.
[01:21:43] Speaker B: What do you mean, what you found.
[01:21:44] Speaker A: You've seen this fucking. You've seen this episode?
[01:21:46] Speaker B: Yeah. No, but I'm not agreeing with that though, because that doesn't make any sense.
[01:21:48] Speaker A: There's more bacteria, there's more microorganisms.
[01:21:50] Speaker B: Oh, you mean burnt as in. As in more of them. Sorry.
[01:21:54] Speaker C: If you throw in these, like. Yeah, Michael.
[01:22:02] Speaker B: I'll take my chances against that.
[01:22:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:22:04] Speaker C: First rounded by bacteria.
[01:22:07] Speaker A: Yes. Straight to the semis.
That's like drawing Dynamo Kiev in the group stage.
But yeah, like, they're just mass wise. There's more of them than there is. And we didn't know they existed until 100 years ago because we couldn't interact with them because we've not put glass into. We've not looked through glass in, like microscopes and all this stuff.
[01:22:25] Speaker B: Big man. 100 years ago, we didn't know to wash our hands before operations.
[01:22:28] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:22:28] Speaker B: They were going in dusty fingers into people's bodies.
[01:22:33] Speaker A: No toilet paper either. Just straight.
[01:22:35] Speaker B: Yeah, let me just get your lung out for you. No issue. Let's use this knife and fork. I'm just after.
[01:22:39] Speaker A: Wipe my ass with my middle finger.
[01:22:40] Speaker C: The hello Kitty switch thing.
[01:22:42] Speaker B: Yeah, let me use my hello Kitty. I didn't even notice you put it out like that.
[01:22:44] Speaker A: Hello Kitty switch.
[01:22:45] Speaker B: You're gonna have to move that when any of Lil's.
[01:22:47] Speaker A: Oh, my God, that's such a good point.
[01:22:48] Speaker B: Because they're gonna think it's a toy knife and someone's gonna get shivved.
[01:22:50] Speaker A: Well, what makes you think it's a toy knife is the fact it's got hello Kitty on it, Liam.
[01:22:53] Speaker B: Exactly that. And it looks very blunt, but it's the exact opposite. It's very sharp.
[01:22:56] Speaker A: It's very sharp. But anyway, yeah, so he was talking about like. So if you think what's kind of like feasible for us to view above us in scale, the universe is too big for us to compute below us. I mean, ironically, when he was talking about below us and talking about microbacteria and stuff like that, I couldn't help but think about the quantum realm. You say microbacteria, micro. Oh, my God, I'm lost now. I couldn't help but think about the quantum realm from Marvel. Just because it helped me.
[01:23:20] Speaker B: It's a good example.
[01:23:21] Speaker A: It helped me, like, visualize it. It's good example. Bacteria in the quantum realm are like fucking huge, aren't they? But, like, the point being, we can't what's below us, and what's above us we can't interact with. So we exist in this tiny slither of reality that we think's real because it's what we can see our five senses, our dimensions, blah, blah, blah. I mean, since this has all come out, I watched Interstellar, so obviously my brain's like all over the room and I'm just fried now. Absolutely fried. Yeah, but like, so they were talking about the fact that, you know, whatever these biological entities are, they may not be two arms and two legs and knocking around with a big head and big eyes, but. But it's freaky.
[01:24:01] Speaker B: It is. I think if you're the. If you're the. Oh, no, we can't get into a scale of the universe diagram for it because this, this conversation will get so much longer. It is a dodum that much bigger than a basketball.
[01:24:15] Speaker A: Clip it, Clip it up.
[01:24:17] Speaker B: But anyway, the point is, I'm gonna close this out shortly.
[01:24:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:24:20] Speaker B: The point is, if you don't believe, come to me and I'll send you some reading materials. But if not, if I think the harder thing to fake is actual government documents, I don't know how you would lie about that. Well, like 100 years of government based documents that have been declassified or a simple one.
I totally understand. If you're someone who's seen videos of UFOs, you go, I can't believe it because I'm 100% with it.
[01:24:45] Speaker A: Absolutely. Yeah.
[01:24:45] Speaker B: But you can't fake film photography an enormous amount. Like when I put my Instagram slide last month, there are so many pictures taken on film. How on earth can you. You can't fake that. Do you know what I mean?
[01:24:59] Speaker A: And to piggyback on that splinter, I'm.
[01:25:01] Speaker B: Gonna throw up if I see this scale of the universe. And I'm going to show you when.
[01:25:05] Speaker A: Italy is bigger than scale of the universe. North America on the screen, and it's knocking me sick.
[01:25:10] Speaker B: What did you just say about film photography?
[01:25:13] Speaker A: Yes. Oh, sorry.
[01:25:14] Speaker B: You cannot fake film photography.
[01:25:15] Speaker A: So to piggyback on that, then. What this Louise dude was saying was that whenever Joe Rogan's being like, okay, so that famous one that came out from the 60s, what do you think of that? And Louise is like, we couldn't give a shit because we've got that much.
[01:25:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:25:28] Speaker A: We've got hundreds and thousands.
[01:25:29] Speaker B: He's like, roswell, that's lightweight.
[01:25:31] Speaker A: I'm not asked. We've got 4k footage from military personnel. He said, there's forms of monitoring, like technology monitoring technology that we've got that people don't know we have.
[01:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah, of course.
[01:25:44] Speaker A: So he said, I'm not allowed to talk about it. Obviously. He went, we've picked them up on that. It's beyond 4K. It's beyond like we've got.
[01:25:51] Speaker B: We've got phlegm samples.
[01:25:52] Speaker A: Yeah, we've got them crystal clear. Nevermind. We've got them in the fucking garage like that. They've already confirmed. So he's like, I don't care about your granny's like, flip phone, Motorola TikTok video from the garden in Gorton. I don't care.
And when Joe Rogan's like, well, what happened in Roswell? He's like, well, we don't care because we work in national security. I don't need to worry about Roswell now. Cause it didn't happen.
[01:26:12] Speaker B: What's happened?
[01:26:13] Speaker A: Well, whatever happened, he said if Summit was gonna go tits up, it didn't. So I don't need to worry about it. Stuff that's coming out now I need to worry about because it can go tits up. He's like, so we are too busy worrying about what can happen now than dissecting what happened four years ago.
[01:26:28] Speaker B: Yeah, long time. I get it.
It's very.
[01:26:32] Speaker A: Tinfoil hat isn't going to protect me from them, Liam.
[01:26:34] Speaker B: It's not.
[01:26:35] Speaker A: I do not find I'm so torn between being like, feeling that they're on our side. Because if they wanted to fuck with us, they'd have done it by now.
[01:26:45] Speaker B: They would have done it by now.
[01:26:46] Speaker A: And then also feeling like they're definitely secretly like, just.
[01:26:50] Speaker B: I think it's like anything. There'll be good ones. I mean, there'll be good ones to be bad ones.
[01:26:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:26:55] Speaker B: Splinter, you look perplexed. What you see?
[01:26:58] Speaker C: No, I don't even want to bring it up.
[01:26:59] Speaker B: Bring it. Unless it's something really big. Because I was about to close it out right now and it's gonna have to wait.
[01:27:05] Speaker C: Nice money. The last time I was on the scale of the universe.
[01:27:09] Speaker B: Scale of universe.
[01:27:10] Speaker C: Yeah. Cuz like I just. It's gonna make you feel so.
But it's just the fact that after all of what they have here, it just goes to this at the end.
[01:27:22] Speaker A: Like. That's horrible. That's horrible.
[01:27:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Don't. If you want to see what Splinter's looking at, just go on. What's the web address?
[01:27:28] Speaker C: It's literally just scale.
[01:27:30] Speaker B: Scale of the universe. And it'll just do a little drag and drop for it.
[01:27:33] Speaker A: So as a. As a.
I've never really clarified it, but as an atheist, I will say I find it. I find it freeing to think of us as insignificant as this because it just puts my tiny little Problems into perspective. Do you know what I mean?
[01:27:48] Speaker B: It puts your tiny little problems into perspective at all. It does.
[01:27:52] Speaker A: Floating around on a rock.
[01:27:53] Speaker B: What am I worried about this and that for when I mean nothing?
[01:27:57] Speaker A: So your majesty's hmrc. I ain't paying my taxes, can't be arsed now I'm just a man Floating around on a rock.
[01:28:06] Speaker B: I'm gonna minimise Watch your ITV now then.
[01:28:08] Speaker A: Cause you've already.
[01:28:09] Speaker B: Fine.
[01:28:09] Speaker A: Come for me. Because in the next 10 years, I'm either going to be busy mates with ET or he's going to have digested me organs and bumps.
[01:28:15] Speaker B: Or he's going to be delivering your delivery.
[01:28:17] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[01:28:17] Speaker C: I've got to take off the screen because Liam can't not look at.
[01:28:20] Speaker A: I can't tell you because I've just seen the cosmos.
[01:28:23] Speaker B: I'm closing it out now because he's.
[01:28:25] Speaker A: Spinning next to me.
[01:28:26] Speaker B: Thank you for tuning into another episode of the Feel Weird podcast with a full crew.
[01:28:30] Speaker C: We just have to throw.
[01:28:31] Speaker B: Let us know where are you watching this in the comments. Do you believe? Do you not believe? What are your thoughts? Have you been wearing your tinfoil hat while you've been listening?
[01:28:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And who's gonna win the Grammys?
[01:28:40] Speaker B: And who's gonna win the Grammys?
[01:28:41] Speaker A: Talking about insignificance. Who's gonna win best pop record in the Grammys?
[01:28:45] Speaker C: Or whatever the comments are gonna be. Yeah, Grammys. Talking about Tyler and then the fact that everyone wants a feel wear tinfoil hat to help them.
[01:28:52] Speaker B: Oh, feel with tinfoil hat merch.
[01:28:54] Speaker A: Opportunity right there.
[01:28:55] Speaker B: It's the only thing we haven't got at this point. We're doing Feel Weird Knives next. Yeah.
[01:28:58] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:28:58] Speaker B: When?
[01:28:59] Speaker A: So when this technically Cults and Conspiracies episode three blows up and makes us famous as hell, we're gonna be selling these.
[01:29:04] Speaker B: Yep.
[01:29:05] Speaker C: Or they're gonna do the absolute opposite and make sure none of it comes out.
[01:29:08] Speaker A: Well, that's what happened last time. Loads of our videos got nerfed, didn't they?
[01:29:11] Speaker B: TikTok doesn't like the truth. Yeah, no, this one we could see that.
[01:29:14] Speaker A: Actually, we're not allowed to talk about.
[01:29:15] Speaker B: Palestine, so what's the point? Okay, thank you very much. Over and out. See you next time.
[01:29:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, and hopefully there's not another Kendrick Lamar album out by the time we next see you. And hopefully we've not made friends with aliens. So, anyway, yeah, thank you. Good night.
[01:29:28] Speaker B: Bye.
[01:29:40] Speaker A: Welcome to View podcast.