THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST - BONUS EPISODE s2#ep5 - Sam and Liam FRIENDSHIP TEST!

[00:00:11] Speaker A: Right. Welcome back to the Fillwood podcast, brought to you by Fillwood Studios. I'm Sam. As always here we've got Liam and we've got the return of Splinter. Splinter. [00:00:18] Speaker B: The first time in season four, the Matt return. Allow it this time for one. [00:00:22] Speaker C: That's good. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Allow it this time. We've had four people don't know his name's actual Matt, which I love, by the way. [00:00:26] Speaker B: No, he did. [00:00:26] Speaker C: You were meant to. [00:00:28] Speaker B: You called him Matt, like, eleven times in the first episode. He was here. And I'm yet to say it still. But we've had four great episodes of season four so far. Season four, with four great episodes on season two so far. [00:00:41] Speaker A: There we go. [00:00:41] Speaker B: With four great guests. [00:00:42] Speaker A: Yes. But we're trying something a bit different today. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Aren't we trying something a bit different today? [00:00:45] Speaker A: So with the return of Splinter, this is our little Jonathan Ross episode. He's going to interview me and you, isn't he? [00:00:50] Speaker B: Does. And we know minimal stuff about it. [00:00:53] Speaker A: We've tried to know nothing about it. And because we've had some nice interest on our origins as our bromance and the studio, Splinter is gonna deep dive into our personal lives and take it away, and we're gonna try and not be super depressing and be really funny about it. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Yeah. Hard to do. [00:01:09] Speaker C: A nice balance, I think. [00:01:10] Speaker A: Yeah. To be continued. [00:01:11] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Go on, splinter. Take it away. Today it is your episode. [00:01:14] Speaker B: It's your episode. [00:01:15] Speaker C: Terrifying, but fun, as always. We start with a question. [00:01:18] Speaker B: My question. [00:01:19] Speaker A: Thought provoking question. [00:01:20] Speaker C: Thought provoking question of the week. What music album changed your life? [00:01:24] Speaker A: Oh, God. [00:01:25] Speaker C: Simple as that. [00:01:25] Speaker B: This is gonna be a long episode already. [00:01:27] Speaker A: This is supposed to be like a quick little warm up. Are you ready to go? Cause I'm. [00:01:32] Speaker B: No, not at all. I'm gonna take a look around the room for inspiration. [00:01:36] Speaker A: Right. [00:01:38] Speaker C: Maybe a bit of reasoning, or if there's something that's specific to you, like it could change your music life, to. [00:01:43] Speaker A: Be honest, for different reasons. The first one that jumps to mind for me is Igor by Tyler Crater. It's definitely not the first, but it was the first time I was a professional producer and heard an album that sounded like nothing I'd ever heard before. And this is why we always argue about the best Tyler album. Because in the back of my mind, I think Flower boy probably is better, but I cannot. [00:02:05] Speaker B: That's the first time you've actually ever said that. [00:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And we're not on camera right now, obviously, so that's not going to get. [00:02:11] Speaker B: No, I clipped up that sort I've got it. [00:02:13] Speaker A: But I can never, ever hear anyone say that ego is not better. But that being said, I think Maverick Sabre lonely are the Brave was the first album I ever bought myself, and that's like, it was ten years old. Last year. We went to watch the ten year anniversary thing and that album still holds up. It's still one of my favorite albums and I think it's still. It's weird. Like, even though I was, like, what, 14 when I first heard that album, it's mad how much it still influences me. So I think I'm gonna have to settle with those two. But I could probably give you another ten. [00:02:43] Speaker B: That's a great one, since you're wearing a bandaid t shirt as well. [00:02:48] Speaker A: Yeah, but I don't really give a fuck about stone roses. [00:02:49] Speaker B: No, it's just a nice shirt. I'm gonna say. [00:02:51] Speaker A: That's not good there. Sorry, mate. [00:02:53] Speaker B: Two albums and both for the same reason. Either Paramore riot or. [00:03:02] Speaker A: If you say 30 seconds to mask. [00:03:04] Speaker B: No, it's not because my wife's in the room. This means war. This is war. [00:03:08] Speaker A: Loves this album. [00:03:09] Speaker B: This is war. This means this is war by 30 seconds tomorrow. [00:03:12] Speaker A: I fucking knew it. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Listen, can I go? [00:03:16] Speaker A: Can you have. Go out the room and you answer again? [00:03:17] Speaker B: That's my genuine answer. [00:03:18] Speaker A: Not a chill, I think, because. [00:03:19] Speaker B: No, listen, you don't know my answer, though. [00:03:21] Speaker A: You just said your answer. [00:03:22] Speaker B: You don't know the reason, I think, for that. When I was really passionate about drumming and before I did design and all that stuff, and I thought maybe that's what I wanted to do. Those are two albums where I learned to play drums from. Do you know what I mean? Like, I'm listening to them and knowing the song inside out and then trying to play along to it. [00:03:38] Speaker A: Fair enough. [00:03:39] Speaker B: So that was those two albums and they both came out somewhat around a similar time, or I at least listened to them around the same time. [00:03:45] Speaker A: Is that late two thousands or is it in the ten s? [00:03:46] Speaker B: No. Would the late two thousands be riot and then in 2010s would be, this is war. So be those two. [00:03:53] Speaker A: That was a little quick question. [00:03:55] Speaker B: Sorry, question, though. [00:03:56] Speaker C: Just a two minute segment. [00:03:57] Speaker B: That's a good question. [00:03:58] Speaker C: Then it gets the mind going. [00:04:00] Speaker B: That's a good question. [00:04:00] Speaker A: So what have you got for us, then? [00:04:02] Speaker C: So I'm kind of going to split this interview up into a few different segments. I'm not going to tell you what's going to come, I'm just going to tell you what's next. Hit us with it. So, first of all, how did you both meet? [00:04:12] Speaker B: So, yeah, gwen, you start us off. [00:04:14] Speaker A: Yes, we've already given little sprinkles of digs to our friend Dave Smith across his podcast for his, I don't know, lack of brain cells. [00:04:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:04:24] Speaker A: To not introduce us sooner, because I went to the Royal Northern College of Music with David Smith 2016, for context at the time. I can't believe you knew that. Because I didn't know that. [00:04:33] Speaker B: No, of course I did. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Yeah. It is that. [00:04:35] Speaker B: We'll see who does better at the friendship question anyway. [00:04:39] Speaker A: And he's been one of your oldest friends. Easily my oldest friend from birth. Blah, blah, blah. [00:04:44] Speaker B: From birth. [00:04:44] Speaker A: So I met Liam, technically, in, what, 2017? 2018, something like that. One of Dave's birthdays. We were in, like, second year uni. [00:04:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:52] Speaker A: And we, like, gone that night talking about Kendrick the master. [00:04:54] Speaker B: The first thing. The first thing, I played humble or. [00:04:57] Speaker A: Something like that, wasn't it? [00:04:58] Speaker B: So, yeah, it was dam era. So I think I played some at Kendrick. And you're like, oh, I like Kendrick, too. I'm Whitehead. [00:05:03] Speaker A: I know we've planned this episode. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:04] Speaker A: But I'm just realizing now how we do sound like a married couple. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:05:08] Speaker A: Well, not just realizing, but I just mean, like. [00:05:10] Speaker B: No, I just. [00:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah, this is meet cute stories. Also in it. [00:05:14] Speaker B: Show your mom. [00:05:15] Speaker A: You show Kendrick. And I was listening to humble. [00:05:17] Speaker B: Listen, when Pippa was on, and she went, you do give lifelong friends. You too. She'd say that as well. [00:05:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:05:23] Speaker B: Which was nice. Anyway, Carrie. [00:05:24] Speaker A: So then we didn't really see each other. Well, we saw each other a couple of times. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Like, never properly. [00:05:30] Speaker B: No. [00:05:30] Speaker A: And the ironic thing was, again, sounding like a future couple to be. I was always asking Dave how Liam and Daniel are, and Liam was always asking Dave how I am and stuff like that, blah, blah, blah. But anyway, 2020 comes COVID Lockdown o'clock. Lockdown o'clock. [00:05:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:46] Speaker A: Call it duty, Warzone. [00:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:49] Speaker A: I am not ashamed to admit it because, I mean, personally, I don't know about you, Liam. If I know, I do know about you, Liam. But, like, I was always a cod kid growing up, but then all through, like, uni, I wasn't bothered about it at all. [00:06:00] Speaker B: No. [00:06:00] Speaker A: And then modern warfare came out, and obviously Warzone was free. We were all, like, playing it till, like, 04:00 a.m. so I was playing with Dave and our mate Joe, and then Dave would invite you, and then just as the weeks went on, I think Dave moved away because we moved away. And it just, like, we just kind of just. It was just me and you left, wasn't it? [00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. [00:06:17] Speaker A: So then there was just, like, us playing a lot and just finishing at 04:00 a.m. cause there was nothing to wake up for. [00:06:21] Speaker B: Cause you chat a lot when you're playing that game, even though you're. [00:06:24] Speaker A: It's a slow game in it, even. [00:06:25] Speaker B: Though you're obviously discussing what's going on. I mean, you have natural lover conversations, which we did. [00:06:30] Speaker A: We'd be like sniping in a tree, just like chatting about cancer. [00:06:32] Speaker B: Because obviously we're like cancer conversations. We're sat in a building just waiting a couple rounds for it to go down and getting to know each other and going, oh, I actually have a younger sister called Lily and a mum who was born on this year and just finding loads of similarities. Do you know what I mean? [00:06:48] Speaker A: I mean, it does sound like some kind of, like 2020 meta sitcom. Two blokes playing cod, having a deep chat and then, like, he's blued, he's blue, he's blue, like. [00:06:56] Speaker C: Yeah, it's really popular mates to get close over, like 100%. Some of my closest mates, like, I still keep in contact with because I played, like, card or. [00:07:05] Speaker A: This is why I thought it was really mad, because, like, the stuff that me and Liam had in common got so out of hand, didn't it? [00:07:12] Speaker B: Yeah, it did. [00:07:12] Speaker A: But, like, it was to the point where especially we were always taking the piss out of Dave. Cause it was like, how on earth have we both been one level away from you? Well, I've known dame since I was 16. [00:07:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:23] Speaker A: So that's ten years this year. [00:07:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Here's the reason that we've, like, took us. [00:07:28] Speaker B: He had two separate best friends who were both identical and went, these two shouldn't be mates. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Yeah, they won't get on. [00:07:35] Speaker B: They won't get on. [00:07:36] Speaker A: I would think, why would they ever hang out? [00:07:37] Speaker B: I want to meet each other and become friends. You know what I mean? Yeah, because why would you not want that? [00:07:41] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:07:41] Speaker B: And he was like, I'm gonna keep these two separate. [00:07:44] Speaker C: And that's why. [00:07:44] Speaker B: So they don't. [00:07:46] Speaker C: That's why he's not here. [00:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that's why he's not here. [00:07:48] Speaker C: I'll go on to the next one. Feel a weird start for you both, obviously, you know, you might have different stories, but how do you have, like, one experience that kind of brought you both in to start it? [00:07:58] Speaker B: I guess you better start this year. [00:07:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. [00:08:00] Speaker B: Without over talking about what you mentioned, the last one as well. [00:08:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, I guess I'll, like, swap. I'll just go over that briefly. [00:08:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, go ahead. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Very long story short. 20. Well, same. Same time. Wasn't it? 2020. I started working. Cause it was overlooked down with a charity called NGL. That was like. It was like a proof for young, underprivileged people. And I was running the music department, and obviously it was the kind of thing that I was loving doing, but I could have never done if it wasn't locked down, because, well, as a musician, there was nothing to do, so I could put my heart into it. And we worked for this chariot for, like, two years. And then we moved. We were in Stockport first. We moved to Stretford, blah, blah, blah. I built this place pretty much from scratch. And then, as it was ready to go. [00:08:38] Speaker B: You had help. I was like, behave. You had help. I put up that wall and move. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Fucking brick wall. It's been there 30 years. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Plasterboard thing. [00:08:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, sorry. Liam put four plasterboard planks on. We're gonna put a flicker fucking room now. And Liam did it. [00:08:51] Speaker B: I did some of it. Yeah, get. Nah, you obviously did most it, but put some records on everyone else's name. Who helped you out? [00:08:57] Speaker A: Of course I'd help. Of course I'd help. [00:08:58] Speaker B: Carry on. [00:08:59] Speaker A: If you walk around this room, I think you can take that and show me up your backside. [00:09:02] Speaker B: I put that there and that and a few bits you didn't even. [00:09:05] Speaker A: Are we going there? [00:09:06] Speaker C: You could have this whole. What do you mean? [00:09:07] Speaker A: Today I put those two there. [00:09:08] Speaker B: That's been there for weeks. [00:09:10] Speaker A: It was over there. [00:09:11] Speaker B: Shut your mouth. Carry on. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Right? So we were working for this charity, blah, blah, blah. It fell under. The owner wasn't well, and I, like, I took it on. So I had a bit of, like. Even though I worked for free for, like, two years, I still had a bit of survivor skill. But anyway, my dream was always having music studio. So it was amazing to have. We were. I was working. Well, I think it was about a year into me having the studio. Yeah. Where was Christmas? [00:09:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. [00:09:35] Speaker A: Anyway, give or take. And obviously, me and Liam were already mates. I'd always kind of wanted to do a podcast, but being a musician and doing a million other things, it was never really priority at all. But we just kind of had a break. [00:09:48] Speaker B: We'd always wanted to work together on something. [00:09:51] Speaker A: There's some kind of example of a tv show that's going to annoy me. After that, I can't remember, we always were so close to like a business venture together. [00:09:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:58] Speaker A: So many ideas. [00:09:58] Speaker C: The bear. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Is it the bear? [00:10:00] Speaker C: Yeah, it's Carmen. Michael never actually bang on. [00:10:04] Speaker A: So let's say that. [00:10:05] Speaker B: Good example, rewind. But no one's killed themselves. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. But anyway, so we had the idea that basically everything we chat, me and Liam, will sit in a room and just talk pop culture for 10 hours anyway and just like run and just go on forever. And the idea was that like, well, if you think about it, we've got Lil's that does videography and she's wanting to build a portfolio. Liam does graphic design and he's really good at editing videos. And I've got the studio and all the equipment and it'd be rude not to. It doesn't cost. It didn't cost us anything to start. No, the idea was when you start in creating something from a point of fun and enjoying doing it, that's always the best way. We didn't have to make money straight away. We didn't have to do this or that or we don't have to appease to people or what they wanted. And I actually think that's why it's worked, because obviously people are buying into whatever we want to do instead of us, like making what trends are or whatever. But anyway, so we decided to do a podcast. And my mind was always thinking, I mean, Liam knows this, but I'll let him answer his bit. My mind was always thinking that besides it being fun, it's just free marketing and content for the studio. Because obviously, as we've got a few more episodes and we've started getting guests on and stuff like that, because the idea was always to branch off and do like tiny desk kind of sessions in there. And then the ironic thing that Dan is in the room, but we worked with, instilled with his production company and event stuff and we did those kind of performances in here. So sorry for Dan, but I kind of learned from some of the lessons of that, from working with that, and that was kind of. I always wanted to do that with us anyway. So it was kind of a no brainer, really. It was like free marketing and promotion stuff for the studio, get cool people in the room and have fun with one of my best mates. It was kind of. It's not really that difficult to work out. So I guess for you, it was around that time you came on board. [00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Were you really? [00:11:53] Speaker A: Give yourself some credit and I'll give you some credit. No, Liam's always helped me with the graphic design of the studio, obviously. The fantastic logo is my favorite logo in the world. [00:12:00] Speaker B: Not my favorite. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Never is. All of the stuff that Liam does for me that I love, he hates. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Well, you answered really, that everything I would have said and then answered, like, eleven more questions he didn't ask. [00:12:11] Speaker A: But shout out, you, though, child. [00:12:13] Speaker B: You, though. No, like Sam says. So I'm just to echo everything he said. It's exactly the same way. There's a lot of things I was already doing for him or for the studio anyway, because I just. Because I love to do it. Do you know what I mean? And then it was a case of me wanting to do something and he came with this idea and I was like, you know what? It's a great show. I'd love to do something like that. Because what am I doing with all this talent for this creative stuff? I'm not using it. Do you know what I mean? So, like I said, it's a win win. There's nothing else I can add because he waffled on. We do love each other. [00:12:43] Speaker C: Being local Manchester boys, what was it like growing up? [00:12:45] Speaker B: Can I say? You're actually a bit of a prick for this one. For context of him saying local Manchester boys. Sam grew up in Glossop. [00:12:53] Speaker A: No, I didn't. [00:12:54] Speaker B: Sheffield. Even worse than. [00:12:55] Speaker A: Whatever, Sheffield. [00:12:56] Speaker B: Where were you born? Okay, there you go, then. [00:12:58] Speaker A: Saying that if anyone. Hold on, it's not me. [00:13:01] Speaker B: Hold on. I'll put a map on the screen for it. And Splinter put on the. On the thing. He went, questions for Liam and Sam, and it was about Sam being local Manchester lad. I was like, Sam, Sam. Context. I was born in St. Mary's, which is the most central town hospital. You can walk there two minutes from Piccadilly. Primary school, the most central. Primary school. High school, the most central. [00:13:25] Speaker C: Okay, my defense never came up. True, true. [00:13:28] Speaker B: I'll allow it this one time because you said. [00:13:30] Speaker C: But you were offended. That makes sense. [00:13:32] Speaker B: But I could. I just couldn't have Sam being hailed as this Manchester local boy. [00:13:37] Speaker A: Like how one of mine and Liam's, like, similarities is the Wivenshaw family. [00:13:42] Speaker B: So it's a good point. But your mum grew up in Wivenshaw. You didn't, though. [00:13:46] Speaker A: No, I didn't go. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Well, because I did, for a part of my childhood. Anyway, this guy's not a true man. Communion like that. So I just don't want to go on it. But. Sorry, I forgot your question because I was so fuming at what you said. Go on. [00:13:57] Speaker C: Just like, what was it like? Run up in Manchester through like, school system. [00:14:01] Speaker B: No, he's not allowed to answer. I'll go for it. [00:14:05] Speaker C: Just, like, conversation about, like, unique. [00:14:07] Speaker B: I think it's the greatest city to. To grow up in, obviously, based on not growing up anywhere else. [00:14:13] Speaker A: Yeah, because I think based on nothing but bias. [00:14:15] Speaker B: Nothing but bias. But I think there's. Because I saw a fact and it's. There's more languages spoke in Manchester than any other city in Europe. Really fun fact. And I think the diversity of culture and people and food and ideas, and it's. You hear that term like, melting pot a lot. I think it's a really good term for Manchester, I think, to be a well rounded individual from so much other background, people and their own experiences. You know what I mean? Salt to earth. And I think it just is that kind of city where, you know, we literally got them right there as well. Happy Mondays. So there's a lot of references in this studio to that. And I think there's such rich history behind the last hundred years alone. 20 years alone of the greatest city on earth. Yeah. There's nothing else I can add to it, so I'll let him go. For someone who's been here for, you know, 20 minutes. Go on. [00:15:08] Speaker A: So if we weren't, like, on camera. [00:15:09] Speaker B: And trying to, like, we're gonna do. You're gonna fight? [00:15:12] Speaker A: I don't mean I'm gonna fight you. [00:15:17] Speaker B: Yeah, we're gonna fight. Yeah, go on, carry on. [00:15:20] Speaker A: No, I went to. Yeah, so I went to school in Londondale, blah, blah, blah. I will say, actually, only question of, like, growing up in the city, because in my defense, I actually grew up between there and down the road in, like, sail ends. [00:15:36] Speaker B: Down the road is what. How long is a piece of string? Okay, now I get. You mean they don't know what down. [00:15:40] Speaker A: The road is because I haven't finished the fucking census. [00:15:43] Speaker B: Carry on, then. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Anyway, Old Trafford is there, people who don't know two minutes away, and I was all Trafford all the time, my grandparents, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, so the reason I was saying that, though, is because I always. Well, I didn't realize until I got to university how lucky I was to grow up where I grew up, because it was 510 minutes away from, like, the woodhead path and all the hills and the moors and stuff. Lots of famous murderers there. [00:16:05] Speaker C: Stunning area as well. [00:16:07] Speaker A: Great area. [00:16:07] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:07] Speaker A: Great area to die. [00:16:08] Speaker B: Good area for kill. Yeah. [00:16:09] Speaker A: Anyway, and also, like, 20 minutes from the city centre. So I fucking best of both worlds. And I didn't really. Well, not. I didn't appreciate, but then I went to university and it was like you're either a village boy or a city person or whatever. And I was kind of a bit of both. So I always felt lucky for that, for Manchester, because even I started to go to severian 6th form, which is in rush home. So obviously from 16, but, like, it was a trek to get there, getting up at, like, six, getting two buses and a train and blah, blah, blah. Which you escaped doing, Dan. Fuck you. I'm saying that because I met Dan Freeman Severian, but he did go to severian college. Anyway, so right in the middle of rush home. Exactly. To echo what Liam said, like, rush home, such a melting pot of, like, you know, of cultures and stuff like that. Famously the curry mile. Xavierans literally on the curry mile. It was brilliant to be going, getting that long distance travel into the city, but it not being daunting because I was kind of used to the city and then, ironically, for university, where I went to Rolandoli College music, like I said, that was already on Oxford Road and was two minutes from siberian. Anyway, so really I've spent from 16 and I'm 26 the other day, like, in the city centre, obviously now I'm Salford, whatever. But, yeah, so, like, I can only vouch for being, like, turning into those, what you call them, those kind of important years of being an adult, especially being a musician. Like, I mean, I've been actually gigging from, like, 1314. So again, I was lucky. There was always. I spoke. You had it exactly the same. There's so many people from RTM that, like, couldn't do a gig where they were from because there was nowhere to. Nowhere to play. Whereas, like, from 1314, even though it was illegal, I was playing pubs and stuff like that. [00:17:45] Speaker B: It's illegal. [00:17:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's illegal for what? Can't be in a pub at 09:00 when you're fucking 13, mate. Never tried. [00:17:51] Speaker B: I don't know. I'm asking the question. Shut your mouth. Go on, splinter. [00:17:55] Speaker A: I'm still answering the question. [00:17:56] Speaker B: You're giving these 900 word essays. [00:17:59] Speaker A: What's the answer to Manchester? Pretty good, yeah. [00:18:01] Speaker B: There we go. That's what we want. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Once the last ten years, I imagined it all right. [00:18:04] Speaker B: Yeah, it was calm. [00:18:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Only the most figurative years of my life so far. One skip, though. [00:18:08] Speaker B: No matter, go on. [00:18:09] Speaker C: I was just asking about university. Oh, no, we're still university in Manchester. You both studied in the city centre, right? [00:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:16] Speaker A: If we're gonna be anal, like, Liam, he didn't study in the city center. Study in Tomford. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Sorry, how close is that to town, though? [00:18:22] Speaker A: I would have allowed that, but if it was the other way around, you wouldn't have allowed me with that. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Shut your mouth. Carry on. [00:18:26] Speaker C: Yeah. What was it like studying in the. Obviously, growing up in the city, I. [00:18:29] Speaker B: Love being in walking distance, especially from town. Great uni for it. And I think a lot of my friends that I had made there at that point as well, that either weren't from Manchester or whatever. It's my duty to share the experiences of that, so that me and my mate Jack would finish uni and walk to town and we'd be at AMC Cinema in nine minutes. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's the best. It's the best. It was the best. I think growing up, if you're in a dead uni and you're in a dead little village or town, there's nothing to do, then you really, your experience is only going to be as good as the place that you're in. Do you know what I mean? It doesn't matter how good your course. [00:19:09] Speaker A: Go to university on, like, what? Well, I can't remember what the term is anymore, but where the campus is just, like, one building and it's not like, is it just the campus unit. Where did you go? [00:19:21] Speaker B: Oh, I've been to a chill. We played ball against you guys. No, I know. It's a one night club. [00:19:27] Speaker A: See, that's what I mean. Yeah. Whereas, I mean, to be fair, obviously where we went to conservatox is one building, but, like, I suppose, Manchester units, Salford, uni, these buildings across that area. [00:19:37] Speaker B: But you've got three unis as well there. You've got uni off, man met, and Salford. And also, like, some very smaller, independent. [00:19:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:44] Speaker B: So many universities, you're literally just packed full of students. So the city's gonna cater to that as well. So back when I was in uni as well. Way back when. [00:19:53] Speaker A: Yeah, back in, like. [00:19:54] Speaker B: Exactly. It was very cheap everywhere. [00:19:57] Speaker C: September in Manchester. September in Manchester. [00:20:01] Speaker A: Chilling. [00:20:02] Speaker C: Chilling. [00:20:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:04] Speaker C: I have the last question before we go on to our first segment. Biggest thing you've learned since being an adult. So since you finished uni, since you've technically been. I mean, you've been an adult since you were 18, but I like to think that when you finish uni, that's when your adulthood. Yeah, that's scary. Adult. So what's the biggest thing you've learned? [00:20:21] Speaker B: Take the piss. No, shut up. [00:20:25] Speaker A: I swear in my life, I was just about to get real. [00:20:27] Speaker B: Now we're getting real. [00:20:28] Speaker A: Let's take the piss. [00:20:30] Speaker B: Everywhere you go, capitalism is killing us. And we've already spoken on this on the podcast. Yeah, everywhere is crazy expensive. I mean, I've been paying my own bills for a long time now, but still, it's getting a bit outrageous now. It's getting a little bit silly. [00:20:46] Speaker A: I remember a meme from being, like, 18 that was like, you hit university and hit adulthood and realize cheese, expensive and so many more people. [00:20:55] Speaker B: Cheese, block of cheese, four quid. [00:20:56] Speaker A: Get lost. He's mad in it. [00:20:58] Speaker B: It's ridiculous. You know, it's in the place where they've got locks on the cheese. Like magnetic locks on cheese. [00:21:04] Speaker C: The security tags on them. Yeah. [00:21:06] Speaker B: Security tags on a ten year old. [00:21:07] Speaker A: For four quid for a block of cheese. I'd expect it to be twerking on the grain and grain itself. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Yeah. Or I'd expect. Am I weight in cheese? Do you know what I mean? So, yeah, to answer your question, everything's very expensive and I think it's a. [00:21:21] Speaker A: Bit more philosophical than that. [00:21:23] Speaker C: Doesn't have to be. If that's the first thing. [00:21:24] Speaker B: It is the first thing that came to mind about being an adult, potentially. But, Sam, go on. I'm thinking of a good answer. [00:21:32] Speaker A: Good answer. I'll give you a clue, mate. [00:21:35] Speaker B: That's not to do with BB. And we're going to get to that. But we're going to. We're going to get to that. [00:21:39] Speaker A: And also that's answers on this question. [00:21:41] Speaker B: Well, you can answer whatever you want. It's your life. [00:21:44] Speaker C: I think I'm confused by what you're. [00:21:46] Speaker B: He's going to buy my long tattoo. [00:21:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. No, that's later. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah, that's later. No, the best thing is expensive. Look, everything's expensive. Vets do take the piss. [00:21:54] Speaker A: Vets do take the piss. World politicians are bastards. [00:21:59] Speaker B: But also life is what you make it. [00:22:02] Speaker C: We'll leave it at that excellent apartment. [00:22:05] Speaker B: External factors like that which inhibit it sometimes. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Oh, no, I will give you. Give yourself some credit because I think Liam's. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah, gas me up. [00:22:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Liam's got one of the best, like, summaries of just life, I think. And I've. I've told him before, I've relayed this to a few people recently that will remain nameless. [00:22:22] Speaker B: Do you give me credit or do you say it's your own fake? [00:22:24] Speaker A: Well, I gave you credit. [00:22:26] Speaker B: Just like, who my fake stuff are going calm. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I did. I told you these stories. Anyway, people that have, like. Because, I mean, mid twenties to late thirties, everyone's having a quite life crisis, aren't they? And every time someone does that, oh, my God. And they're like, oh, my God, I don't have a purpose about this. About that. I say, well, Liam's got. There you go. Yeah, you do know what I'm thinking about. If you just let me finish. Sorry, go on. Because of what we'll get onto over Liam's story. Like, I think he's got the best analysis of it in the sense that, like, it's just not that deep. I mean, like, find yourself a job that doesn't make you miserable, that will just pay the bills and allow you to do some other stuff. Find someone or some people that are amazing to share that time with and find something you're passionate about, and something you're passionate about keeps you active. [00:23:13] Speaker B: Preach. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Life's gonna be pretty great. [00:23:15] Speaker B: I said this, you know, I'll give you something. [00:23:16] Speaker A: At least you'll be strong enough to, like, tackle everything that hits you in the face, like a frying pan. [00:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah, I said. I said this. That you should have free hobbies. One to make you money, one to keep you fit, and one to keep you creative. That was it. So one creative. One to keep you fit, and one to make you money. And ideally, if you can have one dollars or three, that's good. I got the doing creative stuff. I got two in one there. So I think that's a good key for a quick key for happiness. If you've got three hobbies that fill those three requirements, you're killing it. [00:23:46] Speaker A: I mean, I feel very lucky. My career is. My hobby is my. Like, all three of them are in. Me too. [00:23:54] Speaker B: That is a low blow. That. That is a disgusting low jabbity. [00:23:59] Speaker C: What you gonna say? How I was literally. [00:24:04] Speaker B: That is mad rude. That. [00:24:08] Speaker C: I was just gonna say. You answered that question really well, actually, both of you gave different. [00:24:12] Speaker B: You know what? Shout out to you. Well done. [00:24:13] Speaker C: Very good. [00:24:13] Speaker B: Well done. [00:24:14] Speaker C: Now we're gonna go on to our goofy section where you will need your segment. So this is audio listeners friend test. They're gonna be getting Mister and mister. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like a mister and misses. I actually don't know the term. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah, mister and misses. [00:24:30] Speaker A: Is that literally it's also mister misses. No, it's not family fortune. Isn't it? [00:24:34] Speaker B: No, it's all star. Mister misses. [00:24:36] Speaker A: Same thing. [00:24:38] Speaker B: Go ahead, splinter. [00:24:39] Speaker C: So I'm just gonna ask him some questions. They're in different formats, so the first one is. When is the other's birthday? [00:24:44] Speaker B: Oh, wait, so who are we doing first, though? [00:24:46] Speaker C: So you'll write down for this one. It's just as, like, a starter. [00:24:49] Speaker B: Oh. Just to get the other person's. Okay. Yeah. [00:24:50] Speaker C: Just write the other person's birthday. [00:24:54] Speaker A: That's grim. [00:24:55] Speaker B: That is. I apologize for all of our audio listeners. We did have whiteboards. I didn't know where they were. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Right. [00:25:04] Speaker C: Okay, you reveal on go three. [00:25:09] Speaker B: We're too excited for it. [00:25:10] Speaker A: That's right. Right. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah. That's right. That's right. [00:25:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Anyone who knows you have to correct. [00:25:15] Speaker A: The everybody's birthday right to a day or two. [00:25:19] Speaker B: So if you're listening. Yeah. Me and Sam both got it correct. I got. [00:25:22] Speaker A: I always thought. I always think Liam's is the 23rd. [00:25:25] Speaker B: I got chalky already. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Daniel's is like the 1 August, the. [00:25:28] Speaker B: 2 August, and it's the 1 August. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Do you know the only reason I got that is because I thought it was the 31st. I said it wrong. I said it right by saying it wrong. Honestly, I do it. I do it with everyone. I do it with yours. Yours is. Yours is March, but it's either the 16th or the 18th or the 17th. [00:25:45] Speaker B: Wow. That's horrible for you. [00:25:48] Speaker A: He's not mic'd up. You can subtitle that. [00:25:49] Speaker B: You've known him longer than you've known me as well. That's a. [00:25:53] Speaker A: It's because Dave's is the 17 May. [00:25:55] Speaker B: Nope, Dave's is not. It's the 19 May. [00:25:57] Speaker A: Oh, it's close enough. See what I mean? That's two days off. That proves my point. [00:26:01] Speaker B: That isn't right, though. [00:26:01] Speaker C: Then somehow, after all of that, you're right, Sam. Well done. [00:26:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Go on, splinter. Carry on. [00:26:05] Speaker C: Okay, so what we'll do is we'll take turns to guess the specific person's answer. So if I say to Liam, what is Sam's favorite takeaway? You will put your answer and then you will put your guess. So what is Sam's favorite takeaway? [00:26:22] Speaker A: Are we going like brand? [00:26:23] Speaker C: As in, like, you open? Just eat. You have a hundred pound gift voucher, and it's there. [00:26:28] Speaker B: If you don't say this, you're a liar. You're an. You're an actual lie. If you don't say this. If you don't say this, you're a liar. I'm just showing it for lures. If you don't say this, you're actually lying. You're actually a liar. [00:26:40] Speaker A: Show me then. [00:26:41] Speaker B: No. Write down something for me. [00:26:43] Speaker A: Oh, fuck. [00:26:44] Speaker B: He just introduced it. Go on. [00:26:46] Speaker C: I mean, you could just show it and then you. [00:26:47] Speaker B: No, no, no. Because I need. I need to see what he comes. [00:26:49] Speaker C: In a more dramatic way because I. [00:26:50] Speaker B: Know what his answer is much like. [00:26:52] Speaker A: Tis in for this. [00:26:54] Speaker B: Yeah, pinders backed it. Pinders backed it. If he puts anything else, he's actually lying to try and make me get it wrong. And we're keeping a count. We're doing a tally of. He's begging it. [00:27:03] Speaker C: Come on, write down an answer. [00:27:06] Speaker B: Thanks for making this really hard for me to edit. It's long ass pause. [00:27:14] Speaker A: The most generic one on show. [00:27:18] Speaker C: Three, two, one. Show. [00:27:20] Speaker A: See, that's why I asked, because I thought pizza. [00:27:23] Speaker B: Do you see what I mean? See what I'm dealing with? [00:27:25] Speaker A: No, no. Only reverse. [00:27:27] Speaker B: Every time we've ever gone to spoons, this man eats pizza. Listen, time. But he said, I've lost my sponge. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Listen, the reason I asked is because if I open new berries, I don't order from pizza, do I? That's why I asked, because I even. [00:27:39] Speaker B: Gave him the answer before. [00:27:40] Speaker A: And what did I say? [00:27:41] Speaker B: I knew he was gonna do this. [00:27:42] Speaker A: What did I say when I answered to you? I said pizza. [00:27:44] Speaker B: I knew he was gonna do it. So I'm right, then? [00:27:45] Speaker A: You are right. I'm not trying to get you wrong. [00:27:47] Speaker C: But we are technically wrong because we're going off the answer. [00:27:50] Speaker B: It gives in person backing from multiple people in the room. And you turned before. [00:27:54] Speaker A: Give me a call. Were you in the room when I said, are you talking brand or Uber eats? [00:27:58] Speaker B: Didn't hear that. Okay, next question. [00:28:02] Speaker A: Michael, I think I know you're right. Pizza is the answer. [00:28:05] Speaker C: Okay. Yeah. So then it will be the same question. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Yeah. You're mad. You. Whoa. Dial it back. You don't get many clues. [00:28:20] Speaker A: This was the only one I was really not confident on, to be fair. It's a long answer that. [00:28:26] Speaker B: I'm just decorating it. Um, I'm not looking at screen. [00:28:33] Speaker A: Screen. [00:28:35] Speaker C: IPad. [00:28:36] Speaker B: Baby iPads weren't around when I was a baby. [00:28:39] Speaker A: Oh, duh. [00:28:40] Speaker B: We were on these. We were on chores. [00:28:42] Speaker A: Sorry, I'm a moron. I've just hit. It's just hit me. [00:28:45] Speaker C: Are you doing a brand or a food? [00:28:47] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:28:47] Speaker B: Food group. Not specific. [00:28:49] Speaker A: See, again, that's not what he's asking. [00:28:55] Speaker B: Don't help him out. [00:28:56] Speaker A: This is it. It gets all cocky, and that's not what the question was. [00:28:58] Speaker B: I'll give it to you if I think you've got an answer. [00:29:00] Speaker A: What are you clicking on? What you're clicking on? [00:29:02] Speaker B: That's not what I'm doing, though. [00:29:03] Speaker A: You're not clicking on. [00:29:06] Speaker B: I'll give it you if I think. What'd you put? I'll give it him. I put Chinese. [00:29:12] Speaker A: Why will it give him. That's not the same thing. [00:29:14] Speaker B: I've got Chinese. One. [00:29:15] Speaker A: Damn. Did you think he was KFC? [00:29:16] Speaker B: I spelled Chinese wrong. [00:29:19] Speaker A: Thank you. He's wiped KFC. [00:29:21] Speaker B: Give him a point. Give him a point. [00:29:22] Speaker A: Suck my bollocks. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Give a. [00:29:24] Speaker C: Can't twist the rules. So technically, neither of you guess what? It's my show, so neither of you on point. [00:29:32] Speaker A: That's a good point. [00:29:34] Speaker C: Okay. [00:29:38] Speaker A: Yeah. You wrote brand, I wrote type, and then you swapped splendor. [00:29:43] Speaker B: Keep it going. Nail. Now. [00:29:44] Speaker C: Okay, next question. Why is Sam's favorite movie calm? [00:29:47] Speaker A: I think it'll get that easy because. Oh, yeah. Because I always say there could be a million answers for this. But I try and vocalize one for this exact reason. That if it ever comes to a million dollar question on family fortunes, I need people to know what it is or is putting fucking, like, bells on top, little cherry and ice cream. [00:30:11] Speaker C: Okay, ready? [00:30:12] Speaker B: Done. [00:30:12] Speaker A: It's the chronicles and Ari, apparently. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Two one show, eternal sunshine, all you're fucking. [00:30:17] Speaker A: I'm sorry. I always say that to you. [00:30:22] Speaker B: He does say Forrest Gump. And I did forget. Although I think eternal sunshine as well as mine is his favorite in the list. [00:30:28] Speaker A: They are both in the list, but wow, I kept that easy. [00:30:32] Speaker B: The mad thing is, I kept that easy for you. And I don't even know which one it is. I know exactly what the same one. [00:30:38] Speaker A: If you fucking lie about this Mandev be. So I'm gonna be shaking. [00:30:41] Speaker C: What is Liam's favorite movie? [00:30:47] Speaker B: I could be a prick and not give him a point here, but I don't want to do that. I'm not believing that in the. [00:30:54] Speaker C: Are we ready? Three. [00:30:55] Speaker A: Drop my chalk. [00:30:56] Speaker C: Three, two, one. Show. We've got a point on the board. It's not a dead segment. [00:31:02] Speaker A: Come on, audio listener, dead segment. He's just a dead guy for audio listeners. [00:31:07] Speaker B: That was la la Land. Although it could have been quite a few. [00:31:10] Speaker A: Yes, but let's keep it going. You always vocalize la la land like I always vocalize Forrest Gump. Yep. [00:31:15] Speaker C: Okay, so we're gonna go again. Sam, who is Liam's favorite rapper? [00:31:20] Speaker A: Easy, bosh. Give me the point now. He's lying. Fuck, I'm so angry right now. [00:31:31] Speaker C: All right, let's show. On three, two, one. [00:31:33] Speaker A: MC Hammer, you're a lying prick. [00:31:36] Speaker B: I wouldn't say it. [00:31:37] Speaker A: We did your list on this podcast. [00:31:38] Speaker B: No, we did. And he wasn't number one I wouldn't know. I said. You said no. What was the question? Did you say, who's the best? And say, who's my favorite. Favorite. Carmen kdot? Kendrick. Thank you. No point. [00:31:49] Speaker A: He's trying to stick to him. [00:31:50] Speaker B: I'm not. [00:31:51] Speaker A: He's trying to stick to me. [00:31:52] Speaker B: And I thought I would have done the same thing. [00:31:53] Speaker A: I swear to God. Clip up the episode where we talk about your favorite rapper, and it'll be Niles. [00:31:58] Speaker C: All right, Liam, who is Sam's favorite rapper? [00:32:01] Speaker A: He's done that because he knows he's going to get this. Right. I should. I should say rizzle kicks right now. Do you know what? I really should. [00:32:07] Speaker B: Vanilla ice. [00:32:08] Speaker A: I don't want to write it. I don't want to write. I don't want to give him the point because I didn't know we were fucking doing big brother points where we like. [00:32:16] Speaker B: You got nice handwriting. [00:32:17] Speaker A: Shut up. Give him the. [00:32:17] Speaker B: .321 give him the point. You know, I did think about putting Kanye. [00:32:24] Speaker A: If you want an armor, you'd be that guy that's, like, just snaking on everyone, trying to get. [00:32:27] Speaker B: Of course I want to get votes. [00:32:29] Speaker C: Okay, your next question. We'll go with Liam, who is Sam's goat sportsman. So there is the sports. This everything. [00:32:39] Speaker B: Sam could have, genuinely. Sam could have ten answers I could give you for so many different reasons. Ready? [00:32:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:46] Speaker B: Three, two, one. Cr. Seven. Same way. Even the exact same way. [00:32:53] Speaker A: You say it's Yao Ming. Now I'm gonna break your neck. [00:32:55] Speaker B: Why would it be Yao Ming? [00:32:56] Speaker A: Because you're a prick. [00:32:56] Speaker B: No, we don't know. The question's gonna be. [00:32:58] Speaker A: It's the same question. [00:33:00] Speaker B: I'm not assuming anything. [00:33:01] Speaker C: All right, Sam, who is Liam's goat sportsman? [00:33:05] Speaker A: I'm, like, 80% on this because the same thing. It could be. [00:33:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:08] Speaker A: Could be different. Because I always think two in that. [00:33:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:12] Speaker A: I always think it. I'd like to say someone like Muhammad Ali for me, but I do think Ronaldo, so he's either gonna say this. [00:33:18] Speaker C: Or fucking show three. Sure. [00:33:23] Speaker B: Lego James. [00:33:24] Speaker C: Lego James. [00:33:24] Speaker A: Come on. You keeping? I am, because I'm really pissed off right now. [00:33:29] Speaker B: All right. We're doing good, though. We're doing all right. [00:33:30] Speaker A: You're doing good because you lie all the time. [00:33:34] Speaker C: Okay, this one might be a little easy, but we'll, you know, double check. It's a best friend test, isn't it? So, you know, you got to make sure. Sam, what is Liam's dream job? [00:33:46] Speaker B: This is such a difficult one. [00:33:48] Speaker A: This is where I answered, too. [00:33:50] Speaker B: This one, I'll kind of. I'm a unsure and I'll allow. If he gives something good enough kind of thing. Do you know what I mean? [00:33:55] Speaker A: I vouch for that. [00:33:56] Speaker B: Because if he gives something good, if he put something similar to what I put, even in the same street, then I'll allow it. [00:34:05] Speaker A: I'm not gonna take any massive risks. [00:34:08] Speaker B: No. Oh, did you hear that? [00:34:13] Speaker A: So I pull the muscle. [00:34:14] Speaker C: Sure. The audio listeners enjoyed that sound. [00:34:16] Speaker B: I know we should have done this. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Right down the mic. [00:34:21] Speaker C: All right, you guys ready? Yeah. [00:34:30] Speaker B: I genuinely tried to help him because I thought he would think it's basketball, which is. Very. Sure. [00:34:35] Speaker A: So am I talking honestly? [00:34:38] Speaker B: I thought if I put something creative or report something like design, it was something creative. I thought if he puts anything like that, I'd give him the point because he's right. But either these could be a right answer. [00:34:48] Speaker A: That's not creative, though. [00:34:49] Speaker C: I'm afraid of him. [00:34:52] Speaker B: I really tried to help him. Don't give it him. I tried to help him. I tried to help him. I could have just write an answer. [00:34:57] Speaker A: He wrote a subcategory also. [00:34:59] Speaker B: How's it a dream job I can do? To what? I'm 35. I'm out. [00:35:03] Speaker A: So it's no one's dream to be a basketballer. No one's dream to be a footballer. [00:35:07] Speaker B: Either way, don't give him the point. [00:35:08] Speaker C: I tried to help him. [00:35:09] Speaker A: Let's just fucking bimbo baggings over it. [00:35:13] Speaker C: Liam, what is Sam's dream job? Just he has a business card and he has a little word underneath his little name. [00:35:20] Speaker A: This isn't fair, because I have a business card that fucking says it on it. [00:35:24] Speaker C: I have one in my wallet. I have your business card in my wallet. Good, isn't it? [00:35:29] Speaker B: I'm holding my board up so I can. Because I'm your boss, so I can't see your answer. [00:35:37] Speaker C: Long ask go in three, two, one, go. [00:35:41] Speaker B: He's doing it. That's not the wrong answer. Cause I've heard him say it. [00:35:44] Speaker A: No, he's right. [00:35:46] Speaker C: Yeah. I mean, I'll give you the point. [00:35:48] Speaker A: You should get my granddad on the show. When he said, when I was eight years old, I said, I'm telling you, granddad, I'm gonna be a footballer and musician. [00:35:54] Speaker B: You're a footballer. For a bit, yeah. [00:35:56] Speaker A: And then I snapped my leg. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Classic experience. [00:35:58] Speaker A: I would have gotten the World cup if I didn't break my leg after I'd stopped playing football. [00:36:01] Speaker B: How many dads around the world have been saying that to their kids at. [00:36:04] Speaker C: The moment Liam is three two up, which I know. [00:36:06] Speaker B: Three two up. [00:36:07] Speaker A: Fucking liar. No, he's nothing. [00:36:09] Speaker C: He is score. Just to keep you even more angry going into this next round, what is your preferred pizza topping? [00:36:16] Speaker B: If he likes it. [00:36:17] Speaker C: So we'll do Liam. [00:36:18] Speaker B: He's a prick. Sams, I'm guessing for Sam's. Yeah, okay. [00:36:20] Speaker A: Yeah, but he's gonna put like cheese and tomato, like just being a belle end for no reason. Wait, is this one mine? This one? Yeah, mine. [00:36:27] Speaker B: This is yours. Sam. [00:36:29] Speaker A: I just said my name. Otherwise I want to know who you're talking to. [00:36:32] Speaker B: Such so cocky in it. [00:36:33] Speaker C: All right, ready? Three, two, one. Show me. [00:36:36] Speaker B: Feast. [00:36:37] Speaker A: I'm almost angry that you're getting them right now. [00:36:40] Speaker B: Did he not say before we started, it's good having an audience for once. He goes, you're gonna win this. Did he not say that? [00:36:47] Speaker C: Yeah, he did say that. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:36:49] Speaker C: All right, vice versa. Sam, what is Liam's favorite pizza topping? Oh, you look stunned. [00:37:01] Speaker A: I'm fairly confident, but it because he's a. He's a weapon. I don't really trust him. [00:37:05] Speaker C: Alright, we're just showing three, two, one. [00:37:07] Speaker B: Of course it's pepperoni. Of course it is. I'm not trying to get too crazy with it. Have you seen, speaking of that domino's, the japanese pizzas they're doing, they're putting everything under the sun on their pizzas and they look. [00:37:20] Speaker A: Was that a Japan pun? Because of the sun? [00:37:22] Speaker B: No. [00:37:22] Speaker A: In the flag. [00:37:23] Speaker B: No. Wasn't. [00:37:25] Speaker A: That was a cool little waste of time there. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Sorry, sorry. Back on track. [00:37:31] Speaker C: Liam, what is Sam's go to drink on a night out? [00:37:33] Speaker A: On a night out. Oh, I'm so predictable. I'm realizing how predictable I am right now. It's really pissing me off. I'm gonna start drinking tequila sunrises or something just a bit awkward. [00:37:46] Speaker C: Please don't do that. No one wants that. [00:37:47] Speaker A: Yeah, Dave Smith drinks them. See what I mean? [00:37:50] Speaker C: Another reason as to why he's not. [00:37:51] Speaker A: See what I mean? Yeah. I love you, you bastard. [00:37:54] Speaker C: All right, ready? In three, two, one, go. [00:37:57] Speaker A: I don't need to look. [00:37:58] Speaker C: Yeah, okay. And vice versa. Sam. What is Liam's go to drink my night out. [00:38:18] Speaker A: Faggot. If either of these are right, I should get the point. [00:38:21] Speaker B: You're down two points. I'll give it you one point. [00:38:24] Speaker A: I'm down 1.0. [00:38:25] Speaker B: He's down one point. [00:38:27] Speaker C: Technically, the minute you're down two points. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Okay, you ready? [00:38:31] Speaker C: Ready. Show in three, two, one, go. [00:38:33] Speaker B: What's he put? Is it cider, fruit cider or rum and coke is exactly what I thought. [00:38:37] Speaker A: That should be two points. I put ciders. [00:38:40] Speaker C: Listen, listen. [00:38:41] Speaker B: I'm kind, Tim. [00:38:41] Speaker C: Yeah. The only reason I'm gonna give you two points is because you're down to the last question you total, and then you'll be tied to. [00:38:47] Speaker B: That is such a weak move. [00:38:50] Speaker A: It. [00:38:50] Speaker B: That is such a weak move from you as host. [00:38:53] Speaker A: Honestly, this should be the matt roll. [00:38:54] Speaker B: Podcast kind to him. I was going to put saddle for you know what, or I might do rum coat because I'm very positive I. [00:38:59] Speaker A: Was trying to before when I clarified what the answer was and you still said smell. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Shut your mouth. Go on. [00:39:04] Speaker C: This one's a little tricky. The tiebreak has to be tricky. What cartoon world will you want to live in? [00:39:10] Speaker B: So I actually know this, and this is very easy, and I think when I show it, he'll go, that makes sense. You would think that. [00:39:17] Speaker C: Okay, we'll do Liam guessing for Sam first, then. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Okay. I think this is hard because I. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Listen to his squiggles. [00:39:25] Speaker A: I have to think about it. [00:39:29] Speaker C: It's a solid answer. [00:39:33] Speaker A: What you'll say is probably like, I would agree with, but it's not what I thought. [00:39:36] Speaker C: Let's tiebreak around. I gotta be a bit harsh. [00:39:39] Speaker A: That is a good one, that, though. [00:39:42] Speaker C: Thank you. I wrote it myself. [00:39:44] Speaker A: If you don't get this, it's only because you've not thought of it. [00:39:46] Speaker B: Yeah, 100%. I'm gonna put something I know is definitely wrong, and it's only because he doesn't even. [00:39:52] Speaker A: I know it's right. I didn't see it, but I'm looking at his hand. [00:39:55] Speaker B: He's not even a big car too. [00:39:56] Speaker A: I'm telling you what, he's put. [00:40:00] Speaker B: One go, actually. Why is the worst. That's the worst universe to live in. [00:40:08] Speaker A: But all right, you can time travel and jump through. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Pause. You're not Rick, bro. You're you. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Do you think I won't be sliding his DM's like that? [00:40:15] Speaker B: Do you think he's the kind of guy goes, oh, yeah, have you seen. [00:40:18] Speaker A: How tall I am? I'll be a great morty. [00:40:19] Speaker B: Yeah, you. You can audition to be a mori. [00:40:21] Speaker C: Same question. Sam, you need to get easy to. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Get this before you would. [00:40:26] Speaker A: Yeah, one of these weird japanese cartoons. Oh, do I just hear this? [00:40:30] Speaker B: Disgusting, innit? [00:40:32] Speaker A: I'm gonna pick one of them. Oh, this is gonna make me lose, isn't it? [00:40:38] Speaker C: Good deal. You get it right and I have to come. [00:40:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:40:42] Speaker A: I'm gonna put it easy. [00:40:43] Speaker B: I know what? I'm not even looking. I know exactly what he's gonna put, and he'll be wrong with it. It's not a bad guess, but he'd be wrong with it. He said, you said to live him. He'd be wrong with it. [00:40:53] Speaker A: Yeah, but he's gonna be dead. Awkward. Be like, oh, because this one has a really safe world to live in. I'm talking about adventure. [00:40:58] Speaker C: Alright, we're ready. Show in three, two, one. Go. [00:41:02] Speaker B: Avatar. I knew you'd be annoyed. Cause you know that that's my go to show. He Sam put 1.2 naturally. [00:41:09] Speaker A: What? [00:41:09] Speaker B: You go to show an attack on Titan. Two worlds. I'm dying in day one. I'm dead. [00:41:13] Speaker A: Think I'm not dying in Rick and Morty. Rick and Morty die in every episode of Rick and Morty. [00:41:16] Speaker B: You know what? I genuinely thought you were gonna put. [00:41:18] Speaker A: I knew it was gonna be awkward. [00:41:19] Speaker B: I thought you'd put the Simpsons, and I would have given you the point for the Simpsons. Cause that would have been fair. But I obviously put Avatar and I'd be an earthbender. [00:41:25] Speaker C: That's harsh loss, but certainly you shouldn't have made it to the tiebreak anyway, Sam, you know how he's annoyed, though? [00:41:29] Speaker B: Because he knows that. He's like, I should have got that. [00:41:31] Speaker A: Yeah, but like I said, it was gonna be one of the weird ones. That's the least weird one, to be fair. [00:41:35] Speaker B: It's the least weird one. [00:41:36] Speaker A: That's the only one I've seen. [00:41:38] Speaker B: It's not even japanese. It's made by Americans. [00:41:40] Speaker C: Okay, that's our best friend, right? [00:41:43] Speaker B: That's a great segue. [00:41:43] Speaker A: This is going in the lake. [00:41:45] Speaker C: We can do it again. You know, this could just be like. [00:41:46] Speaker B: No, we're doing it again. [00:41:47] Speaker A: We're doing ten more questions right now. We're not stopping until I prove it. I'm the best friend ever made. [00:41:52] Speaker C: Well, there's another game later. You can prove yourself. Okay. [00:41:55] Speaker B: What's your favorite chocolate bar, by the way? Because I couldn't think that came up. [00:41:57] Speaker A: Because I think I'm a bit like your wife. I change by them. [00:41:59] Speaker B: I know you do. And I thought if that comes up, I wouldn't get it. And I was gonna ask Lil's four hand, but then it didn't come up anyway, so I didn't know what I. [00:42:06] Speaker A: Was at the moment. I'd say dairy milk, Oreo. [00:42:08] Speaker B: You know what? I would have got the point. Cause I would have gone, dairy milk. [00:42:11] Speaker A: It's always a dairy milk variant or a galaxy variant. Yours. You like whatever weird shit goes in the fridge. Cause you greasy chocolate, weird stuff like that. [00:42:18] Speaker B: Not chocolate bar, though. [00:42:19] Speaker A: Milky bar. No dairy milk. [00:42:21] Speaker B: Nope. [00:42:22] Speaker C: Crunchy. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Love a crunchy. But no, you're the most right so far. That's my number two kids. [00:42:29] Speaker A: Number two. [00:42:31] Speaker B: That was my favorite child. [00:42:32] Speaker C: Like a whisper, like a gold. [00:42:34] Speaker A: Dairy milk and galaxy dominate. The big ghost. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Shut your mouth. With boost. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Boost. [00:42:40] Speaker B: Don't you know double decker nothing. The best one. [00:42:44] Speaker C: Snickers. [00:42:44] Speaker B: No, that is the best chocolate bar. I do love Snickers. That's my free arrow. Nope. [00:42:51] Speaker A: I can't think of anything other than dairy milk and galaxy. [00:42:53] Speaker B: You're leaving out the greatest. [00:42:55] Speaker A: Give him a shout. You don't know. What's his favorite? Chocolate. [00:43:00] Speaker C: Chocolate. [00:43:01] Speaker B: Kinda bueno. White. [00:43:02] Speaker A: Thank you very much. Absolutely fair. Yeah. [00:43:04] Speaker B: Do you see the nods across the room? Yeah, yeah, that's, that's good. [00:43:07] Speaker A: Is it just me that thinks of like the big bar when people ask. [00:43:09] Speaker B: That there is no big bar? What do you mean? [00:43:11] Speaker A: Obviously there's no big bar. Kinda bueno. That's why I didn't get it. But I mean, like Darren, the one. I mean. Yeah, because I would agree on that, to be fair. Definitely. I've had the white one. I can't go back. [00:43:23] Speaker B: No, the brown ones are dead. They're not as good at all. Not as good. [00:43:27] Speaker C: So for this next segment, I'm kind of doing a bit more like solo questions. But obviously you can both get involved as they go. So I'll do like. [00:43:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll make sure there's a cutting to him when he goes on for like 90 minutes. [00:43:38] Speaker C: Just about one each. So, Liam, how has feel weird allowed you to be creative? [00:43:43] Speaker B: That's a great question. Because although Sam likes to give me as much creative freedom in the editing and the design as possible. No, it wasn't because he knows that, obviously I know what I'm talking about and I deliver so much of stuff, but it's good because I can go to him and go, hey, what do you think of this for something we're going to talk about later, which I'm not revealing yet, for some bits that we're doing for the show. Little clue and go, what do you think of this? What do you think of that? And he goes, that I really love, but maybe let's change it and do this. When I go, great idea. Or he'll come with me and he'll go, what do you think? Can you recreate this? And I go, this I like. But here's how I'll make it better. And you go, you've done it, you made it better. So I think it's a case of because I love doing it, I love drawing, I do it every day. I'm always creating things for the show, for the branding of feel weird. And his thing is just to go, love that, maybe change that. Let's use this for that, that, that, you know what I mean? And there's infinite products, possibilities and whatever that could be made from the stuff that I do. So that's why I enjoy to do. [00:44:49] Speaker A: It, to branch off that. That's another reason, another one of the many obvious reasons why I wanted Liam on board. Because as much as feel weird, studios is like my absolute baby in my heart and soul. I always bounce off better, bounce off people better. And like I said, liam was always kind of in the wings, helping me with the graphic design stuff anyway. But, like, I knew that if there was something that he was tied into as much as I was tied into was only gonna make for great results. Because we work well together like that. [00:45:14] Speaker B: We both wanted to be successful. [00:45:16] Speaker A: If I come up with something that's dog shit, he will tell me it's dog shit and vice versa. And like most great partnerships, we will disagree on things, will agree on things. [00:45:25] Speaker B: But, but same thing. Like, if Phil weird's his baby, I'm the stepdad. [00:45:29] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:45:29] Speaker B: I'm the dad who stepped up. [00:45:34] Speaker C: That's a feel weird. [00:45:35] Speaker A: Live. [00:45:35] Speaker B: Laugh, love. [00:45:35] Speaker A: Over here. [00:45:36] Speaker C: Come on. [00:45:37] Speaker B: Go on. Sorry, carry on. [00:45:38] Speaker C: Now, Sam, where do you want Fillwood to be in the next year? Obviously started, and it's had a load of different. [00:45:43] Speaker A: Okay, movements. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Next summer. Next summer. [00:45:46] Speaker A: This time next year, I'm gonna break that answer into two and break that into the Filwood studios as the umbrella of everything. And then the podcast. And then on the second one, I'll get Liam to chime in what he please. But for the studio, I've always got some massive ideas for the studio, to be honest. The first obvious one would just be to have still been growing the community that we've got. Because I always wanted it to be like, obviously it's my thing, but have a bit of a team and then build a bit of a community like regulars and stuff like that. And that's happening now and it's growing and that's really cool. But then kind of one of the things at the end of that that I always wanted was a feel read writing camp. So this is a bit of an exclusive because I've put the feelers out to a couple of musicians, but because I'm so lucky to have, like, a big network of some, like, world class musicians, of people that have come through these doors already and people that I've, like, worked with that are literally like Grammy winners. Like, we. I'm not gonna drop names, but we know Grammy winners. Like, why would I not want them, like, all in one room? Do you know what I mean? So that's been a big dream. And to be fair, the only reason I think we could have pulled that off this summer. But you want to make sure it's right. Yeah, and I've just been too busy, to be honest. I know that's a lazy excuse. No, that's because I couldn't have been too busy, but it has to be the main thing. And I want to do, like a week of the idea being everybody coming in across, being like an open door throughout the week. Everyone coming in and out, and have 30, 40 top class musicians, creatives, even if it's videographers, rappers, instrumentalists, singers, all sorts in one place, and then everything we come up with, either. I'm still torn between performing it on like, a showcase in the studio on the end of the week, but also releasing it as like a compilation of like a collaboration thing. I think that would be mint. That's my big dream of the studio. Amongst the obvious of it, just like, growing and continuing. But honestly, from the age of, well, whenever I was decided I was going to go into music, I always wanted my own studio. I've been really lucky to do some big live gigs and, like, work with some big artists and stuff like that. But as much as I love playing live and it's like, always a part of me and it's literally what I do for a living, I've always wanted to have my own studio. So, like, I just want that bit to continue and then to go to the next bit with the podcast, which I know Liam agrees with me, but I want to give him a chance to bounce off on, is we really want to grow to the point where we can do a live podcast show and have fans and people that care and fellow creatives in the room. And one thing that I'm always kind of just spitballing with, which I might have said to Liam or I might have not, is just especially the first one, do it in here and have people, maybe if it's guests that have been on the podcast, perform live and everything, and be like a proper. Just a cool night. But then obviously the big dream is, like, we've talked about the Apollo, aren't we? Like, that's the one I want to get to the overlap. Like Gary Nebul gets 3000 people all in the room on the stage just having a laugh. So. [00:48:54] Speaker B: As usual, Sam has waffle copted on and given a great answer, but also delivered exactly what I would have said. And he's 100% right. If we get some merch out, get some bits out from a commercial perspective, continue to grow as we've been doing on all of our platforms, and then do like I said as well, live shows, something like you saw last year, this year even shits and gigs did an arena tour like o two arena, which is, I don't know how. What's the capacity of o two arena? [00:49:21] Speaker A: 20,000 in it? [00:49:22] Speaker B: 15 at least, because I think is 15,000 and it's bigger, Otun's bigger. So I think they're doing like an arena and obviously they've been going a long time and an enormous podcast, but that's a live show. [00:49:35] Speaker A: 20,000 is huge. [00:49:37] Speaker B: And certainly Apollo is a great, great place for it. I would like to do that. So maybe it'll ask in a year. [00:49:42] Speaker A: But I know I'll get bullied for waffling, but Liam's just made a really good point that I'm really annoyed. I forgot. But the feel with clothing was always supposed to be a really big part of this. [00:49:51] Speaker B: There's a question that I think ties. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Into that, is there? [00:49:56] Speaker B: No, no, don't say it. [00:49:57] Speaker A: There we go. [00:49:58] Speaker B: Never mind. [00:49:59] Speaker A: So fill with clothing was like the idea I had. It was actually what feelweed was first, because when we were with the charity, the studio was called something else. And I started the clothing brand, started making the clothes myself and then I started to sell them on the night of my ep launch last year. And then literally within like two weeks, I took the studio. Well, I was told I was going to take studio on and I decided to tie everything under that one name and change the studio to that name. And then obviously I got super busy building the business. So the clothing took a back step. So much as I'm still making the clothes, they've just, I've just not released that properly yet. And then when the success of the podcast and obviously Liam being a graphic designer, we've always kind of thought of spitball ideas, haven't we? But like we're now putting together like a proper merch range, which I think so perfect because we've got like the podcast and the studio and blah, blah blah, like merch that's proper nice designs, and then it's still going to have the, like, the one off, unique pieces of the stuff that we make. So that's another big thing, because I'd like to. I'd like to be, like, genuinely, like, shout out to dramacole or someone like that. Do you know what I mean? Like a brand that's tied into the city, but I see dreams, like, I want to be united, do so many partnerships with local brands. I want to do that, do you know what I mean? And we're two minutes from Trafford, so. Old Trafford, so perfect. So that's a big one. I'm not really asked about making money off it as much. I want people to be wearing it. I want it to be, like, part of the culture kind of thing. That's one thing we need to agree on. [00:51:24] Speaker C: Next question is for you, Liam. It has been seven years since you won your fight with lung cancer. If you'd want to talk about that in any kind of way. I don't know where to start, I guess. [00:51:35] Speaker B: Well, firstly, what time? How were we looking at for time? What we on? [00:51:39] Speaker C: 52 minutes. [00:51:40] Speaker B: That's pretty. Not bad at all. I think, to give context for it. Take a step back. He said seven years ago, age 20, diagnosed with the medical term is a wheelbarrow's worth of cancer. That's the official term doctors use. So it's testicular. Testicular lymph node, lung, and double brain, which isn't the correct term, but brain in two places. [00:52:02] Speaker A: Cancer. Tried to double tap you, didn't it? [00:52:03] Speaker B: It double tapped me. I was down, no plates. [00:52:05] Speaker A: Tried to, didn't I had to get. [00:52:07] Speaker B: The reverend from doctor Welch, and he came in with the. He brought me back from the by station, but I think from this time, so obviously a very long period going through that with two major surgeries, six months of chemo. In house. In house. What's the phrase? Inpatient. [00:52:27] Speaker A: Oh, right, yeah. [00:52:27] Speaker B: Not trying to say. And I think looking back from it now, and the sort of difference in my life now is more just my attitude towards everything within life, because if when you're on death's door, not even death's door, I was inside death's living room, like I was already in the house. Do you know what I mean? [00:52:43] Speaker A: Drop the bottom. What was the percentage of living? [00:52:45] Speaker B: They said 3%. Feels like an accurate way around, but it's kind of difficult. And I remember when Dan, my then fiance, asked him, was like, but is he going to be okay, though? And they wouldn't. They couldn't commit. And they were like, we'll do the best we can. And that's kind of it. It's kind of up to him and how he's going to react to it. Do you know what I mean? And that's why I'm such a positive person in general. I was already positive before that, for sure. I barely changed. But they said, without that positivity, there's no way you're getting through it, because so much of your attitude and your outlook determines your. Your health. Do you know what I mean? [00:53:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, it's together, isn't it? [00:53:24] Speaker B: 100%. Because there was never a point where ever said to Dan, my family, everyone else going, if I don't make it, here's what I want to happen. Do you know what I mean? There was never a time when, if I don't just. Just saying, here's a song I want playing at my funeral, or, here's what I want doing with my Xbox. [00:53:38] Speaker A: Do. [00:53:38] Speaker B: I mean, whatever. Do you know what I mean? There was never that question because it was never asked. [00:53:43] Speaker A: The Christie's mate. [00:53:44] Speaker B: Yeah, they would have. They would have swiped it on the MacBook they gave me. But the point is that since then and all that, my outlook has not changed, other than just being more positive, because that's what got me through that. [00:53:56] Speaker C: How long was it from when you got the diagnosis to when you'd. [00:53:59] Speaker B: It was a 2016 diagnosis right at the end of it. Started chemo September till the end of January. And then. Well, I already had a testicular removal surgery before that. Like, in the end of August, then Asap on it. Yeah. Cause he said, get that gone, and we might have done it all and be fine. Did a scan, find out it's not fine. You've got a wheelbarrow's worse, obviously, is what they say. And then did six months of chemo till the end of September. And then they kind of let you rest for a bit, but they had to still get a little bit more out, which is as much that they can do with the chemo without actually killing you. Cause obviously it's just poison that they're feeding you. And then in April, had the lung surgery, so a third of my right lung. And then it was only after then a checkup in May 26 when they're like, okay, you're. You finished, you're good. So then they keep an eye on you for, like, the next come every two months, and then you come every four months, then you come every six months, and then every year and going on and going on. And it was only last year I was fully like, yeah, you're good to. [00:55:02] Speaker A: Go off the books last year. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Incredible. [00:55:05] Speaker A: It's mad that the actual journey was less than a year, though. In Ithoodae. [00:55:07] Speaker B: It is. [00:55:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:10] Speaker B: Yeah. So the chemo's relentless. Relentless is a good way to put it. So it's 17 hours a day, six days a week for three weeks out of four, like in a month. [00:55:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:22] Speaker B: So you kind of major surgeries in between as well, just to sprinkle on. So you're living there, do you know what I mean? But thankfully, obviously the Christie was only in withinshaw or just outside it. I guess it's more Dittsbury, isn't it? And I only lived in Oldham at the time, so it's not too far. And there's people that are on wards that I knew that I traveled miles and miles and hours and hours for their kids or whatever, because it was a young people's ward to try and see them. And for me it's, you know, it's half an hour's drive to get back. So it's a relentlessly, outrageously, physically demanding thing to go through because obviously you cut an enormous amount of weight. Like, I was at 101, went down to 83. So like sticks and bones for me, that is. 83 for me is built like spaghetti. Do you know what I mean? [00:56:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Cause he's like five eight, he's a big guy. [00:56:13] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Spot on. So. And I think so after that, all that time and then now just looking back at it every year in May, I'm just re reminded of how lucky and blessed I am. Do you know what I'm. [00:56:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:24] Speaker C: Was the chemo the hardest part of like the journey? Is it just like motivation through it? [00:56:29] Speaker B: Yeah. No, the emotional part is you just get on with it. Do you know what I mean? But the actual part of it, because you're so physically weak, not just strength wise, like lifting things, but I guess just your fatigue, like speaking of United, De Gea came. Who was it? [00:56:47] Speaker A: Eric Bayern? Was it Juan Mata? [00:56:49] Speaker B: Juan Mata came in and a couple United players came in and obviously they signed some bits and I've lost all of them now, which is annoying because. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Obviously he was like, oh, sweet John, Terry's here. [00:56:58] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know any of them are. No, I recognized the hate. I knew the keeper. You've been there time. Yeah. [00:57:02] Speaker A: All right. [00:57:03] Speaker B: But they obviously give you loads of signed bits and whatever for all the other people that were there. But that's by far the most taxing part more than the surgeries, which were already, like, really tough. Yeah. [00:57:16] Speaker C: Well, thank you for sharing your journey. [00:57:18] Speaker B: Thanks for listening, taking an interest. [00:57:21] Speaker C: I'm just gonna swiftly move on, and I, like that. Just never happened. [00:57:24] Speaker B: That's cool. [00:57:25] Speaker A: Well, he's alive, isn't it? [00:57:27] Speaker B: I'm fine. [00:57:27] Speaker A: I'm here. [00:57:29] Speaker C: So, Sam, I got a question for you. What is your favorite method of creativity? Obviously, you do quite a few different stuff for your word. It does fashion, does music, does all kinds of different stuff. What is your. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Well, I'd like to think my bread and butter is obviously just making music. I think probably most creatives would answer, as much as I am, like, 99% of my life is music, it does waver, I think, because music's been my life for, like, 15 years. Whenever I do something else that's creative, that seems so much more exciting, but more just because it's newer, because that's just what I'm like. When I started making the clothes, it was, like, my favorite thing. I couldn't believe how fun it was. And to be honest, even making the studio and putting stuff together, Liam will probably remember me telling him Call of Duty at 02:00 in the morning. But considering it's so rare, as you'll know yourself, it's so rare. You see the fruits of your labor as a musician. Like, honestly, unless you're playing a sold out show, playing your original music, and everyone's going, that was great. Like, when do you actually see the fruits of your labor? Not that often at all. Whereas, like, coming in here and it was insert picture here of what this dungeon looked like before I came in. Like, even something as silly as painting a wall and then leaving, coming back the next day and being like, that walks better than it did yesterday. [00:58:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Like, just actually seeing the progress in front of me, like, black and white, night and day, I really enjoyed that. And to be fair, like this, there's a chance the studio's probably going to move in the next year to literally about two minutes away. But, like, this, people have been like, oh, my God, are you not terrified by that? And I swear to God, there's, like, a part of me that's like, no, I get to do that again. I mean, because I did just. I barely slept. And to be fair, as much as it took a long time to build, and obviously it's evolved a lot, but within a month of me bashing it, like, it was. It was ready to go. [00:59:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:19] Speaker A: Because I just didn't sleep, and I really enjoyed it. That's what? I mean, like, people thought I was doing crazy hours, but I enjoyed it because it was creative. And it was weird because, like, my dad was a plumber and I was working as a plumber from, like, from the age of, like, ten, my dad had me going from, like, instead of going on, like, school holidays, I'd always have to work with my dad. And from, like, ten to 14, it was making bribes and hoovering up behind him, so it was crap. But from 14, I could actually do stuff. And it's so funny now because, like, those skills all took place and I realized how creative it was in a weird way. Like, being a laborer, you wouldn't think is creative, but, like, my dad used to laugh about him making a bathroom. Like, would be. He had artistic control and he was, like, proud of it and weird Segway. But I. To put context to it, my dad once got in trouble for the company he was working for, whatever, plumbing merchants. That was it. Sorry. Because some woman, we made this bathroom for this woman, and then she was like, when he finished, he was dead proud. He was like, so what are you going to do? And she was like, I'm going to paint that wall purple. And he went, you're fucking not. This got relayed back to the unemployment merchant. She was like, darren, you can't tell the customer what color she's going to paint the bathroom. And he went, that bathroom looks mint, and she ain't ruining it with purple paint. And he had it out with this woman. [01:00:33] Speaker B: I respect it. [01:00:34] Speaker A: And so, like, plumbing's creative. Who would have known anyway? I'm joking. But, yeah, so I'm saying all that, but obviously, like, there's nothing that hits the same as, like, sitting and writing music. I love writing music with other people, but just, yeah, write my own music and performing music. And as much as I do it, I gig three, four times a week, and I work in the studio every other day, and I'm teaching music. And blah blah blah. In school. Sorry. And blah blah blah. Still, if I've got ten minutes, I'll be singing someone else's song or playing someone else's song, because it's still the freshest and, like, the way I enjoy doing it the most. [01:01:07] Speaker C: So obviously having, like, feel where to start, and you're going through different routes. It obviously takes, like, a lot of attitude to commit to such a big project. So what is it that inspires you the most, do you think? [01:01:19] Speaker A: Well, attitude wise, I think just in. [01:01:21] Speaker C: General attitude, I guess it kind of all comes in together. Motivation inspiration, that kind of thing. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Well, I guess that's a pretty good segue into my deep, dark tragedy story. No joking. Well, I guess, yeah. My big, inspiring thing and all that stuff was one of the big reasons why me and Liam became so close. And it's because in 2020. Well, 2020. No, 2020. Yeah. But I. My dad was diagnosed in 20, I think it was 2018 or late 2017, with a grade four glioblastoma. [01:02:01] Speaker B: Glioblastoma. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Glioblastoma. Brain tumor. And the weird thing was, I mean, I was 19 and I think at 18, I remember being like, wow, this is mad. Everyone in my family is alive and well and I had nothing. And at 18, man, I got breast cancer. My other nan passed. My dad got a brain tumor. And then ever since, it's been like some kind of skittles on the bowling lane. I mean, everyone's just, like, gone. But that was so dark. Sorry. Anyway, but my dad was obviously, like, the biggest one for me because my dad was, like, my best mate. And like I said, I worked with him for. Until. Well, my dad got diagnosed on a Monday. And because it was a brain tumor, he was going in on the Thursday to have brain surgery. And obviously they take your driving license, everything, like, stop your life. Nothing's gonna happen now. Like, obviously. I mean, he was given eight months to live and he lasted just three years. I think it was just nearly three years. But anyway, point being, on Monday, he was told all this Tuesday, he was in work in the morning, got my mum to drive me in because he wanted to finish his bathroom for this old woman because she was, like, left without a bathroom or whatever. That kind of sums up what my dad was like. But my dad was, like, the pushiest dad in the world. And we always used to joke about how much we'd clash because we'd fight all the time about it, but obviously I wasn't a spoiler. Shit. Like, I understood what he was doing was trying to help me. But the thing I always say to paint the picture is he'd give me a lift to a train station. When I say, I went to severian college, give me a lift in the train station at six in the morning, sit down in his van, whack a fucking clipboard on the wheel and be like, have you done this? Have you done this? Have you done this? Have you done this? I'd be like, fucking dad. It's six in the morning. I've been awake 12 seconds. Like, no, I haven't. [01:03:47] Speaker B: Or he wanted you to be great. [01:03:49] Speaker A: He wanted me to be great. And to be fair, I always remember the reason he had me working for him was considering. Now I'm 26, and I look at, like, laborers and builders and blah, blah, blah, and working class people, and obviously, like, I think they're the backbone of society. As much as my dad had respect for his trade, my dad Washington saying to me, every time I went to work with him, he'd say, you're doing this so that you try at school, because I don't want you ending up doing this. And it almost did. I was gonna say almost did the opposite because, like, I worked really hard at school and stuff, but it didn't share. It didn't scare me away from that stuff. If anything, I got more respect for it. But, yeah, my dad was just super, super pushy. And I think ever since he's not been here, I'm very lucky that, like, because I knew he was quite proud of me, and I knew he had that love and support. Anyway, I'm not, like, chasing this sad desire to prove him wrong or make him proud of it, because I'm lucky enough to know he already was. But, for example, just this studio, it does make me really sad at times, but at the same time, it makes me really happy when I look around the room, and every single thing in this room is built with tools my dad gave me. So, like, that's my big inspiration because I'm. And again, sorry to kind of segue back to why me and Liam got close. Cause he died in the August 2020. And that was about a month after we started playing coddling, like, getting chatting. So, to be fair, me and Liam were not. [01:05:12] Speaker B: Like, we were playing the night before you found out we were on. And the next day, you. [01:05:16] Speaker A: Absolutely. Because my dad was in a hospice for two weeks, which, like, the running joke is that my dad was called the double eyed Yorkshire bastard by his friends. And nobody spends two weeks in a hospice. It's where you go to die. And he was just not going anywhere. He was supposed to go in, like, your last day or two, but. So, anyway, I'd be up all night anyway, and I was playing coddle. And. Yeah, so we got. That was August. And then even, like I said, even though me and Lynn weren't that close, because we were technically on a phone call, we were just talking about all the time. And obviously, I knew. Well, I knew through Dave what Liam had been through, but us connecting on that. Like, Liam had never known anyone that had been through a truckload of, like, impossible, probabilities. With cancer, stuff like that. [01:06:02] Speaker B: Before, it was easy for you to talk to me about it. Cause I could understand what you had come from. [01:06:07] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:06:07] Speaker B: And what he might be going through and the things you might have gone through that Danielle, my mom, my family might have been going through. So it was easy to connect because of the very similar experience that I'd had. Just not recently, just, you know, before then. [01:06:20] Speaker A: And what's quite nice is, as well, is because obviously people like that, like me and Liam's chemistry on this podcast and stuff, what people don't realize is that, like, the roots of that friendship of like, like, my mum and Danielle are really close because been holiday. Yeah. They've both never met anyone who's been through anything even remotely similar. And like, that was a big deal for both of those. And so it was like we. Without getting super cringe, it was like when I lost someone, I game someone, do you know what I mean? Like, we were. It was kind of perfect timing with that. Liam was right there when I needed someone like that. That's not to diminish him as a person, as a friendship, but like, he was just there for me. But I mean, like, it was perfect timing, wasn't it? And ironically, as much as we take the piss out of Dave, I think if I'd have. This is such a weird segue, but Dave actually answered us the other day, didn't he, about why he didn't introduce us sooner. And it was because Liam was on his deathbed. He was like, I want to be like, do I meet my mate Sam? [01:07:14] Speaker B: It makes total sense. [01:07:16] Speaker A: But to be fair, like, I'll give Dave some credit. If we'd have met sooner, of course we would have been friends, but, like, there was somewhat. Really. [01:07:23] Speaker B: You would have had to go for it twice. [01:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, well, exactly. [01:07:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:26] Speaker A: But there was something really unique about us becoming friends when we did. [01:07:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:31] Speaker A: And then sadly, Liam got to witness the decline of everybody. Everything going tits up for me afterwards. But, yeah, so long winded. That was. That's my big inspiration for keep going because we always talk about the fact that Liam made it out of those, like, impossible impossibilities and my dad didn't. But, like. And you wouldn't believe, you know. Well, these. Liam and Dan would believe because they've talked to him about it. But how many people are like, wait, shouldn't you, like, not. Shouldn't you be, like, angry at him being made? [01:08:03] Speaker B: Who said that? [01:08:04] Speaker A: We've had this conversation before. I'm not gonna, like. I don't remember out people here. [01:08:07] Speaker B: That's a crazy thing to be like, obviously. Do you not wish your best friend dad instead of your dad? [01:08:14] Speaker A: Why? Like, would you not? [01:08:15] Speaker B: I get what you're saying, though. [01:08:16] Speaker A: I get what you're saying, exactly. Yeah, of course it is. I'm like, why would I do that? Like, Liam is the proof that it's not all doom and gloomy. I always say to people, I'm getting super deep, like, because my dad was like, it was. I think there was something like 0.7% of people have this brain tumor because it was super rare. So never mind. Like, chances of living, like, it was just. It was terminal. It was. How long he's got? Not like whether he's gonna make it or not. But I find some kind of peace in knowing that there was nothing we could do about that. Whereas, like, so looking at Liam, if I didn't know someone like Liam, I'd be like, oh, what's the fucking point? I wouldn't. But you know what I mean? I wouldn't be like that. Wouldn't be like that. But you know what I mean? Like, Liam's proof that, like, miracles do happen and it's not all, like, catastrophe and everything goes tits up. Is that like a super. [01:09:08] Speaker B: I don't remember what the question was at this point. [01:09:10] Speaker C: I think you did a really good job. [01:09:12] Speaker A: It was like. It was like, isn't cancer really fun? Wasn't that the question? [01:09:14] Speaker B: No, you explained it really. [01:09:15] Speaker A: What was your experience with, like, fun in cancer? [01:09:18] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a great, like, wrap around. I think that last question, you feel like you've touched on everything there. So we can end it on a happy segment, I think. Yeah, we have that sound. [01:09:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm joking, dude. Go and hit me up. [01:09:33] Speaker C: So what we're going to do this time is we have some pictures and you will be guessing the other person's age in the picture. [01:09:43] Speaker B: Let's do it. Do we need to round the board? I should just shout it out. I think I just shout out. [01:09:47] Speaker A: Nah, shout out. We'll be here all night. [01:09:49] Speaker C: I think boards a good idea, personally, but we can. We can start. Liam, look at this. [01:09:53] Speaker B: Oh, go make it big screen so you don't show the next one. So I'm giving the extra time. [01:09:56] Speaker A: Oh, it's a bit of a shame on it. You can see this now actually in it. [01:09:59] Speaker C: It's good. [01:09:59] Speaker B: It's got a look at it from here. [01:10:03] Speaker A: Elvis Presley. [01:10:05] Speaker C: So, Sam, how old do you think Liam is? [01:10:09] Speaker B: Difficult, because Sam didn't know me for every single one of these pictures. So he's kind of going off. Just the guesses. [01:10:17] Speaker A: I'm. Are you allowed to, like, answer me, answer my workings out questions? [01:10:23] Speaker B: Oh, hey. I'll wear you working out, but I might give it to you because you. [01:10:25] Speaker A: Don'T have the long, luscious locks. I'm thinking that's after cancer. But you also look like you're in good shape. So was it before? Bollocks. I'm gonna go. You were 20 when you got cancer, aren't you? [01:10:40] Speaker B: 20. [01:10:41] Speaker A: Nah, this is misleading as fuck. This. 18. Can you answer me? [01:10:46] Speaker B: Don't remember you. That's the only one I'm sure you'll get. [01:10:51] Speaker C: Right, let me. Let me get a tally going. [01:10:52] Speaker B: Get tally. He's gonna win this. No doubt he's winning this. [01:10:57] Speaker A: Don't know, because I don't know the answers to mine either. This is off Facebook. [01:11:00] Speaker C: I've only got answers for Liam's. [01:11:02] Speaker A: Oh. [01:11:02] Speaker B: So if I give a good, calculated, calculated guess when it's mine, if you. [01:11:06] Speaker A: Can answer what I think I'll give you because I'm not sure. [01:11:08] Speaker C: Oh, it's. This one's a gold. When this one came through to my phone this afternoon. [01:11:13] Speaker A: No offense, mate. You're deaf or mid treatment. There you are, aren't you? 2020. [01:11:23] Speaker B: Not even close. [01:11:24] Speaker C: He is 14 in this. [01:11:26] Speaker A: Get fucked. You test. You were taking two. [01:11:32] Speaker B: It was just. My skin was bad at that time because I was a teenager. I started lifting when I was 13. [01:11:38] Speaker A: Nah, you like a grown ass man. That's lost weight. [01:11:41] Speaker B: Cheers to you. [01:11:42] Speaker A: That was like another one here. I reckon you're like 16 there. Wait, wait. Oh, no, the boots. Nah, this is. This is saddest. [01:11:51] Speaker B: You know, the boot, if you can get it from the. [01:11:52] Speaker C: You can get it from the boots. Like. That's a bit crazy. [01:11:54] Speaker A: That's 2011, that. [01:11:55] Speaker B: I don't even know what boots. [01:11:56] Speaker A: You're 16. Told you 16. [01:11:58] Speaker C: He is 16 in it. I can't. [01:12:01] Speaker A: Wayne Rooney Moore, then. [01:12:03] Speaker C: I'm not even going to hate it. [01:12:04] Speaker A: Eleven to 2012 season, he scored 31 goals. And though I'll have respect on that, that's quite impressive. [01:12:08] Speaker B: Good working out, though. Good working out for it. [01:12:10] Speaker C: I was in this one. [01:12:12] Speaker B: I can't remember one or two young ones in there because I can't. [01:12:15] Speaker C: Teenage years, it's a good range. [01:12:17] Speaker B: My eyes don't exist in this photo. [01:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah, but knowing you, you're like fucking three in that photo. [01:12:24] Speaker B: I was just learning to walk in this photo. I was also taller than you. [01:12:29] Speaker A: This. I'm not confident in. Because this is. This could be eight. [01:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah. This is a really misleading one. [01:12:34] Speaker A: I'm gonna go eleven. [01:12:38] Speaker C: There's eleven. [01:12:39] Speaker A: Fuck off. [01:12:40] Speaker B: Nicely going back. [01:12:41] Speaker A: He's on. [01:12:42] Speaker B: Nicely done. He's done way better than I thought. Doing rich is mental. [01:12:47] Speaker A: Right. So if the other one was eleven. You're seven there. [01:12:52] Speaker B: Seven. A seven year old looks like that. [01:12:54] Speaker A: You. Because you teed up well. [01:12:57] Speaker C: You put that. He's eleven in this as well. [01:13:00] Speaker A: Is he? Bollocks. You are not the same age. [01:13:02] Speaker C: You only know the picture. You will only know from the picture, apparently. [01:13:06] Speaker B: So I tried to check the dates. Even when I think it's the angles and they're like, the camera quality adds to it. Because one. [01:13:14] Speaker A: I thought you were way younger in that. [01:13:15] Speaker B: I do, but I think it's also the angle looks very young, I think. [01:13:19] Speaker A: Okay. [01:13:19] Speaker C: Okay. Now. So you got three. [01:13:21] Speaker B: Okay. [01:13:22] Speaker C: A five. [01:13:22] Speaker B: He did really well. I thought he would get one out of five. Yeah. [01:13:26] Speaker A: And we got one wrong. [01:13:27] Speaker B: You got. [01:13:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. You're either 14 or mid kilo. It's not. [01:13:40] Speaker B: A festival here. He's got a little bit of a beard going on, but I know the ages. I know that came in from early. But also you can't see his eyes, and that's misleading. I think he could easily be one. Seven er. I think he could easily be 17 here, I'm gonna. [01:13:55] Speaker A: I just need to triple. Triple check. [01:13:57] Speaker B: You can't do this because he could really just scream me on this splinter. Can we have him write an answer before and then I say it? Because I say 17. He'd go, no, I think I'm 16. [01:14:07] Speaker A: I think I am 17 there. [01:14:09] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:09] Speaker A: Well, I tell you, that's my first Leeds festival, and to this day I can't remember if I was 16 or something. [01:14:13] Speaker C: That's what I think you must have been. [01:14:14] Speaker A: You want to. [01:14:17] Speaker B: Can you write down then, for the others? Because I think that's a little bit of cheating. [01:14:20] Speaker C: We can do a cut. We can quickly, like, you can just go through and write everything. [01:14:24] Speaker B: No, no, I think he just writes it as it comes up and then just keeps it. [01:14:27] Speaker C: Get the chalkboard. I can't. [01:14:28] Speaker A: Just. Trust me. I'm not trying to screw you over. [01:14:30] Speaker C: Get the chalk. [01:14:31] Speaker B: Competitive. [01:14:31] Speaker A: Oh, you've decided. [01:14:34] Speaker C: Okay, go on. [01:14:35] Speaker B: Next one. Who is that? What are you eating? An onion? [01:14:42] Speaker A: That's an orange that, you little weirdo. Actually, also, look at the size of your shoulder. Look at that. It looks like the golden coombie. [01:14:50] Speaker B: Golden coomb. This is really hard, because you're probably the same height. There you are. [01:14:56] Speaker A: You're a wizard, Harry. [01:14:58] Speaker C: I'm a wizard. [01:14:58] Speaker A: I'm gonna go for an age, even though I don't know if it's right. So if you get it, and that was misleading, because there's only one number that. There you go. [01:15:04] Speaker B: I didn't even list what he said. [01:15:05] Speaker A: One number. [01:15:06] Speaker C: That's one movement, I guess. What are you gonna go say? [01:15:09] Speaker B: I guess I'm gonna go. Realistically, that's a seven year old kid. It has to be. Okay. Thank you. Yeah, that has to be seven. [01:15:18] Speaker A: I think it's all two for two. [01:15:21] Speaker B: Go on, give me the next one. [01:15:22] Speaker C: Oh, this could be a challenge. [01:15:26] Speaker B: I'm going off my nieces. The locks on him, my niece, are three, four and five. He's in that range. And I think he's got to be. No teeth. No teeth. That's a two year old. [01:15:36] Speaker A: Very gummy smile. [01:15:37] Speaker C: Is that. Is that a tooth there? [01:15:39] Speaker A: No. [01:15:39] Speaker B: Even if it is, though, he's too. Even still though he's two and a half years old. [01:15:44] Speaker A: Could have teeth. [01:15:45] Speaker B: He's too. Look at his arms. My nieces are two, three and four. He's two. [01:15:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. Anyway. Not too sure. [01:15:52] Speaker C: You're actually tired right now. [01:15:54] Speaker A: Well, next time, I'm gonna be fucking ten years off of purpose. Oh, right. [01:15:58] Speaker B: Look at that photo. [01:15:59] Speaker C: Surely will know your age. [01:16:01] Speaker A: Look at that photo roughly. Let me work out. [01:16:08] Speaker B: Look at that sharp hairline as well. Sharpest hairline in the biz, that laser beam. I'm trying to go off more his sister's age because I know the difference between those two. And I feel like cheating on fuck. Cause I've kind of got. If I kind of can figure out hers, I might be able to get his. [01:16:24] Speaker A: My mom's looking a bit rough in that photo, don't she? [01:16:28] Speaker B: I think he's got my dad. [01:16:29] Speaker A: Everyone in the room. Sorry. I just realized half the room can't see the photo. [01:16:35] Speaker B: How old your dad in that photo? That might help me. [01:16:37] Speaker A: Bollocks. That fucking. That's an outer question than how old I am. [01:16:41] Speaker B: I think he's got to be how. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Old your sister compared to. [01:16:45] Speaker B: Is she two years younger? [01:16:46] Speaker A: She's five years younger than me. [01:16:47] Speaker B: She's five years younger. She's not five years younger than you. [01:16:51] Speaker A: Oh, no. She's not just lying. [01:16:53] Speaker B: Is she five? [01:16:53] Speaker A: She's turning 21 in October. I'm 26. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Okay, I'm changing my answer then. [01:16:56] Speaker A: Damn right you are. Just giving you a clue. Can we do half a point off this. [01:17:00] Speaker B: She's got to be. You've got to be nine. And she's like four. [01:17:07] Speaker C: So final. [01:17:08] Speaker B: Yeah, and I'm really fucking. [01:17:10] Speaker A: I think I'm nine because we're in Cyprus there and I know. [01:17:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:17:14] Speaker A: We started going when I was eight, so I reckon that was the year after. [01:17:17] Speaker B: Okay, go on. Oh, OG fudge. Who's that kid, though? [01:17:21] Speaker A: That is not you, that's Harry Styles, mate. [01:17:23] Speaker C: It doesn't look like you at all. [01:17:25] Speaker B: Look. But also you've got. You've got a very square. [01:17:28] Speaker A: Just point at my face and go, oh, yeah, you've got a very square. [01:17:31] Speaker B: Head, like, you've got a very square jaw. This down here, that's a James Clark if I've ever seen one. Look at his jaw. [01:17:38] Speaker A: That's my prime there. [01:17:39] Speaker B: How old's fudging that picture? [01:17:40] Speaker A: I'll tell you, I'll have to kill you. [01:17:44] Speaker B: Also, why are you wearing a. What's it called? [01:17:47] Speaker A: Abercrombie Fitch? Because it was cypress special, mate. Fake. [01:17:50] Speaker B: I thought Atticus Finch. Isn't he the main guy from. [01:17:52] Speaker A: I give you a clue. Go on, cuff chinos, then. What year is that? [01:17:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we're in the early 2010. I just realized we're in. We're in 2010 there or something. You're born in 98. Calm. Eleven. [01:18:07] Speaker A: You did the maths wrong and still got it right. [01:18:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:11] Speaker A: How old am I in 2010? If I was born in 98. [01:18:13] Speaker B: No, it doesn't matter because I know, and you're right, it's 1111. [01:18:16] Speaker A: You're a wanker. [01:18:17] Speaker C: That's. That's all five. [01:18:19] Speaker B: What a great finish. [01:18:20] Speaker C: I have got a final. [01:18:22] Speaker A: I have people to gauge it off and a dog to gauge. He knows I got that dog at eleven. He's just lying. [01:18:26] Speaker B: You know what? Yeah, but it's easy for you because if I have all my siblings in it, that'll be way easy. And go. Okay, okay. Next time we do it, then we'll do another one. I'll make sure all my siblings are in it. All right? [01:18:37] Speaker C: Should we do. If you get this one right? Well, you both can answer, so get. [01:18:41] Speaker B: I've won by two. [01:18:43] Speaker A: Shut up and get the fucking bottle. [01:18:44] Speaker B: That's my chalkboard as well. [01:18:47] Speaker A: Yeah, forgot you. [01:18:47] Speaker B: Give me that sponge. [01:18:50] Speaker C: So I have a picture of someone in this room, very young. [01:18:55] Speaker A: Come around. You're allowed, mate. Yeah, go on, come around. [01:18:58] Speaker B: If not this way, that way. [01:18:59] Speaker A: Wait, wait. [01:18:59] Speaker B: It might reset the focus. Go for where Max is and you can have it. [01:19:02] Speaker C: I've gone for this. [01:19:05] Speaker A: That'S fantastic. [01:19:07] Speaker B: Look at that moon head. Did you have a lot on your mind that day? [01:19:09] Speaker A: Mega mind, that is. You know, it's even sadder as well. I know you are because of the United shirt you're wearing. Yeah, I honestly. I know how old you are cause of the shirt you're wearing. [01:19:20] Speaker B: I don't know how old I am today. Also, you have different ears now to them. What's going on there? [01:19:25] Speaker A: You just look at him. [01:19:26] Speaker B: Is it not you? [01:19:27] Speaker A: Sorry. This guy. [01:19:28] Speaker B: I'm so confused. I thought it looked. It doesn't like it. It doesn't look like either one of you. I thought it was you. [01:19:38] Speaker A: I don't know. I was looking for pictures of. Oh, wow. I was gonna say looking for pictures of kids. [01:19:43] Speaker B: Whoa. [01:19:44] Speaker A: You know, I searched for my camera, old baby to get pictures of me baby, and that came up. And there's also a fantastic one Easter egg. We'll show you next. [01:19:51] Speaker B: Big edge. A lot of troubles going on. [01:19:54] Speaker A: If you get. If you don't agree with me, you're wrong, because I know what shirt you're wearing. [01:19:58] Speaker B: But he could be wearing an older one. [01:20:00] Speaker A: No, he's not, because it makes perfect sense. [01:20:03] Speaker B: What year were you born, Pinda? 98. Okay. [01:20:06] Speaker A: You don't know what year that is. [01:20:07] Speaker B: That looks like a 98. Okay, so two Chelsea fan in the rooms getting that 2003 rude Van Easter. Yeah. [01:20:15] Speaker A: My desk on boards. You say it. [01:20:18] Speaker B: You say, we'll show it when we show it. For audio listeners, we're showing up a picture. [01:20:24] Speaker A: No, you're not. [01:20:25] Speaker B: Of one of our friends in the room. [01:20:28] Speaker A: You're a liar. [01:20:29] Speaker B: Someone five. [01:20:30] Speaker A: You're two. I'm two. That's 2000. Shirt. That's 2002. She's three. [01:20:36] Speaker B: So we're both wrong then. [01:20:38] Speaker A: Absolutely he's wrong, because look at this. [01:20:41] Speaker C: I can tell you he's not wearing. [01:20:42] Speaker A: A retro shirt when he's fucking. [01:20:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:47] Speaker A: You'Re getting your children as well. [01:20:49] Speaker B: You think he's going, that's David. [01:20:51] Speaker A: That's David Smith. [01:20:51] Speaker B: That is horrible. [01:20:53] Speaker A: Can we just clip this bit up and send it in? Do you not think he looks like. I was gonna say this terrible. [01:20:58] Speaker B: He looks like his sister. There. A lot more. [01:20:59] Speaker A: I was gonna say Rachel. Yeah, I was gonna say Rachel, but I realized I was about to say smorrible, so I didn't want to say about his sister. [01:21:05] Speaker B: Look how clapped his teeth are. [01:21:06] Speaker A: Claps his teeth are his teeth. [01:21:08] Speaker B: Like a scattered fork. All right, let's go. I'm going with how we're gonna know. [01:21:12] Speaker A: The answer to this. [01:21:13] Speaker C: How do you approve the answer? [01:21:15] Speaker B: It's a great point we have to get. [01:21:19] Speaker A: My logic should win me this point. [01:21:23] Speaker B: Try them. [01:21:23] Speaker A: Yes, please do try him. [01:21:25] Speaker C: What time are we looking like an hour and 22. [01:21:28] Speaker A: That's all right. Can we 332 on it? [01:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, we have to. Three, two, one. And then get him on the Facetime for the sake of the. After the episode. [01:21:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Three, two, one. Show. [01:21:41] Speaker B: What did you put? [01:21:42] Speaker A: Six, seven. My answer is because he's wearing his primary school top. Yeah, I did start wearing that in year one. Not reception. [01:21:49] Speaker B: That's a good point. My primary school was own clothes. [01:21:56] Speaker A: Of course it was, mate. You're raised in the ghetto, weren't you? [01:21:58] Speaker B: I was raised in. My primary school was in rush home. You know, St. James. It's right at the end of Curry Mile. Oh, yeah, that's my primary school, man. [01:22:04] Speaker A: That was my end for a bit. [01:22:07] Speaker B: No, I don't. [01:22:08] Speaker A: It's gonna be really annoying. Oh, of course. He didn't answer. [01:22:10] Speaker B: We got another one. [01:22:10] Speaker C: We've got one last one and then we are. [01:22:12] Speaker B: It's you. [01:22:13] Speaker A: Sorry, it is me. [01:22:17] Speaker C: I need to make sure I don't give it away. [01:22:19] Speaker B: Oh, have you got, like, the number right on it? [01:22:21] Speaker A: No. [01:22:21] Speaker B: Have you got, like, at my 6th birthday party? [01:22:23] Speaker A: Balloon at the end of the podcast. On the YouTube video. We should play like a compilation. Like it's a funeral of me and you. Baby kids. Yeah, baby kids. Baby pigs. [01:22:31] Speaker B: We're in the baby kid. This our studio's our baby, kidde. [01:22:36] Speaker A: So this next one for audio listeners. [01:22:38] Speaker B: Appreciate you staying out with us. [01:22:38] Speaker A: Oh, my God. That's not you, that's Phoebe. [01:22:40] Speaker B: That is Phoebe. [01:22:41] Speaker C: That is me. [01:22:42] Speaker B: Did you have a nose, Joe? [01:22:44] Speaker C: No. [01:22:44] Speaker B: Why does your nose look bare? Different now to that picture. [01:22:46] Speaker A: I don't like your nose and favourite. That looks nothing like that in real life. [01:22:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it looks. [01:22:50] Speaker A: Wow. [01:22:50] Speaker B: You look like you're that guy who hangs out like McDonald's bins and just sits. [01:22:53] Speaker A: You're like Kanye west circa 2000 in the polo tee. [01:22:58] Speaker C: Yes. Yes. All very funny. How old do you think I am? Gone. [01:23:01] Speaker A: I'm gonna say, by the terrible choice of haircut that I also had. I was this years old when I had that. [01:23:08] Speaker B: I think you've got to be. I know you hit puberty well, early as well. But I'm going to say you've got to be. You could be eleven on this. [01:23:17] Speaker C: All right, ready? Three, two, one. Show. [01:23:21] Speaker A: I put 13. [01:23:22] Speaker C: Yeah. 2016. So eight years ago, I'd have been, what, 1414? [01:23:29] Speaker A: I'm having that. So, last points. Winner yeah, I won. [01:23:31] Speaker B: How are you having that? [01:23:32] Speaker A: Last points winner? [01:23:33] Speaker B: You put 13. You were wrong. And also you were one. That's year eleven. You're 16. There gotta be. [01:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah. What phones are. [01:23:44] Speaker B: Oh, iPhone six. [01:23:47] Speaker C: I love the detail. [01:23:48] Speaker B: IPhone six is. I think ivo. Six is 2011. [01:23:51] Speaker A: I can see the hair dye in the bottom left. That's definitely Phoebe's. But what's the difference between you? Two years, three years? [01:23:59] Speaker C: Four. [01:23:59] Speaker A: Four years. Four. So she's gotta be 1617 when she's messing with her. 18. I think you're 15 then. Bollocks. [01:24:07] Speaker B: No, I think 15. Two. I was gonna put 15. Yeah, I think he's right. [01:24:10] Speaker A: That's convenient. [01:24:11] Speaker B: No, genuine. I would have put 15. [01:24:12] Speaker A: I said, I think you ten. That maybe you maybe. [01:24:15] Speaker B: I think year 1115, not turn 1615, 2016. [01:24:18] Speaker A: So same fucking year. [01:24:20] Speaker C: Same year. [01:24:20] Speaker A: Bollocks to that. Yeah. [01:24:21] Speaker C: Look, there's two same. [01:24:23] Speaker B: So 14, like, totally different. [01:24:25] Speaker A: Bloke tell you notes Phoebe was dying around and I get that. Right, surely. [01:24:29] Speaker C: End of march. Yeah, she was. [01:24:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:24:32] Speaker A: We're getting more. We're getting Easter eggs. Right, though. [01:24:34] Speaker C: Yeah. And that's it. [01:24:35] Speaker A: Dan doesn't know all these in the photo because I got the football shit. Right. [01:24:37] Speaker B: We'll see if he checks in. All right. Is that the end? [01:24:39] Speaker C: That is the end, yeah. I have no more questions. [01:24:43] Speaker B: Brilliant. Well, it's been a fantastic episode spin. I'm looking forward to next one. You're gonna run with some great questions, some really fun segments. [01:24:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I hope you enjoyed this bonus episode. [01:24:51] Speaker B: It was a good bonus episode. [01:24:52] Speaker A: We laughed, we cried, we told some good stories. Told some good stories. We inspired a nation. [01:24:57] Speaker B: We did indeed, as always. [01:24:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:25:00] Speaker B: So, yeah, until the next one. Check us out. [01:25:02] Speaker A: Let's roll out the red carpet for you. [01:25:06] Speaker B: Roll the red carpet. What do you want? What do you want to promote? What do you want to plug? What have we got? We've got some stuff we want to mention close to the end of this season. So we say we're going to ice it for now. We've got some ice it. [01:25:16] Speaker A: Let it fall. [01:25:17] Speaker B: We've got it. We'll let it fall. We've got some exciting ones next episode, though. If you're listening to this now, maybe it's out by now. We've got a holiday edition of the Feel Weird podcast and me and Sam are going on holiday next week. [01:25:26] Speaker A: That's a great shout. [01:25:27] Speaker B: And we're going to do a holiday episode for it. [01:25:29] Speaker C: So business trip didn't cover that part. [01:25:30] Speaker A: We're doing a bonus one that's another bonus one. [01:25:33] Speaker B: Exactly. Thanks for rocking with us. [01:25:34] Speaker A: Brought to you by Lorette Damar. [01:25:37] Speaker B: Where we're going. Margaret Damar. Just below. [01:25:39] Speaker A: Margaret Damar. [01:25:40] Speaker B: Margaret Damar. Margaret Malgret. Spain. [01:25:44] Speaker C: They're going to Spain. Northern Spain. [01:25:46] Speaker B: So thanks for checking us out to. [01:25:48] Speaker A: Be, like, blokes about it. And I know that's a bit stupid, but me and Liam don't have a clue where this we were going the second our partners bought this holiday. We both went to the other room and phoned each other and was like, where are we going? And he was tunisian. I was like, dunno, Spain we're both from. [01:26:04] Speaker C: You just get on the plane and you'll be fine. [01:26:05] Speaker B: We could have called it out. Now, I've been Liam Maloney. He's been Sam Kappa, aka Kidler. [01:26:10] Speaker A: Right. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Rush me. I panic then because I thought Dan had already, like, paused out. This is a nice little. [01:26:19] Speaker B: Okay, rust episode. [01:26:21] Speaker C: Did you like the change of style of episodes? [01:26:24] Speaker B: I really enjoyed it. [01:26:25] Speaker A: I really hoped. Me and Liam have been wanting to, like. Well, I say wanting to. It's obviously a bit of a weird dynamic when we talk about that shit. We always, well, I think people want time. One of our little. One of our ventures we were going to go into. We were going to be doing public speaking because we'd already been asked by a couple of people to do some inspiring stuff because me and Liam were different sides of the same coin of, like, the similar kind of trauma. And that was one thing we were going to go into. So we did, like I should have said before when with the idea of a podcast, we did like, that we could broach that subject and kind of debunk that stigma. [01:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:03] Speaker A: You know, and approach it in a lighter manner and do it in our own comfortable environment. So it's nice that we weren't going to do that anytime soon. [01:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:10] Speaker A: People have took a real interest, and that's been really nice. So it's nice to get some serious stuff under. [01:27:15] Speaker C: Thanks for both being so open about it and being. [01:27:17] Speaker B: Appreciate you. [01:27:18] Speaker A: Thanks for being a wonderful host, Mister Graham. [01:27:19] Speaker B: You've been a fantastic host. [01:27:21] Speaker C: Thank you. [01:27:21] Speaker B: Now, you're gonna like to set down. [01:27:23] Speaker A: Can we get a little vote in the comments for whether Splinter should stay on camera or not? Because each one his face made. [01:27:29] Speaker B: Well, let us know. We'll see. [01:27:31] Speaker A: It's a shout. [01:27:32] Speaker C: There's a shout. [01:27:32] Speaker A: Anyway, thank you very much, everybody, for watching, listening. What a lovely episode. [01:27:38] Speaker B: Fantastic episode. [01:27:39] Speaker C: Fantastic. [01:27:39] Speaker A: Stay in touch. Drop a like and subscribe and comment and all the things that the professional people should say. Thank you. Good night. Welcome to the Feel Weird podcast. But yeah, superstar famous boys.