THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST ep#4 - JANUARY CATCH UP PT. 2 - Gypsy Rose Blanchard, Katt Williams Interview, Kanye/Kid Cudi Reunion, Basketball V Football etc.

February 05, 2024 00:58:31
THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST ep#4 - JANUARY CATCH UP PT. 2 - Gypsy Rose Blanchard, Katt Williams Interview, Kanye/Kid Cudi Reunion, Basketball V Football etc.
The Feel Weird Podcast
THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST ep#4 - JANUARY CATCH UP PT. 2 - Gypsy Rose Blanchard, Katt Williams Interview, Kanye/Kid Cudi Reunion, Basketball V Football etc.

Feb 05 2024 | 00:58:31

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2 Episodes in one week! Continuing on catching up with the worlds news from January 2024, Sam (kyd blu) and Liam talk Pop Culture, Movies, Music, Sport and a LONG standing debate between them, whats the hardest sport ; Basketball or Football? 

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[00:00:11] Speaker A: Welcome to a new episode of the Phil Wit podcast brought to you by Phil Wit Studios. I am Sam Capper, otherwise known as Kid Blue. This is Mr. Liam Maloney, and we are bringing you two episodes this week because we're making up for being away for a of January. This guy was down south. [00:00:27] Speaker B: We already spoke about that. We're in the future now. We are in the future now, if you were here. Go back one. [00:00:31] Speaker A: Yeah, go back one. You'll find out where he was. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Turn left. [00:00:33] Speaker A: You know him chatting with taxi drivers about how shit the south is anyway. [00:00:36] Speaker B: No. Yeah. [00:00:39] Speaker A: So we're going to catch up on a couple of other things we missed as well. And what do I start with? [00:00:43] Speaker B: Gypsy Rose? Bland Chard? My thing is this. Yeah, I get it. I know very little. [00:00:50] Speaker A: Straight to the point. I get it. [00:00:51] Speaker B: Listen, I get it. She was abused by mum. I totally get it. And I'm all for her now. She served the time. She went in at like. [00:00:58] Speaker A: But it just shocked me how straight. [00:01:00] Speaker B: In I needed to. Yeah, she's been in there for a while. She went in at like, I don't know if I'm right. Someone like when she was 18. Now she's 32 or something. So she served a long time in there. She's done it, paid her dues. My thing is, can we just not celebrate her like she's a superstar? [00:01:16] Speaker A: Knowing it. [00:01:18] Speaker B: I'm all for second chances and forgiveness. Yeah, 100% all for that. [00:01:22] Speaker A: But she's been on every talk show. [00:01:24] Speaker B: Conspiracy to murder is a bit of a madness. Literally. Like, I get it and I totally know. And it's obviously. [00:01:30] Speaker A: I don't know much about what's going. [00:01:31] Speaker B: On with it because she didn't kill her mom herself, but she conspired with her boyfriend at the time because he. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Knew the kill the show based off her as well. [00:01:39] Speaker B: The show's based. [00:01:39] Speaker A: I hadn't seen the show because it was devastating. [00:01:42] Speaker B: It looks very good, but I've only seen a summary of the story. [00:01:45] Speaker A: Right. [00:01:46] Speaker B: But she even did a video. It's wild of showing him, like, here's where you're going to go, then you're going to did stab in motion to mum's bed. It's a bit mad. But she's convinced her boyfriend to kill for her. And obviously, of course, they both go in. He's still in there. [00:02:00] Speaker A: She's constructed, she's suppressed and what is it? [00:02:04] Speaker B: Accessory to murder, whatever it is. But now she's out now. But seeing people in the comments like, oh, my God, you're my hero. And there's fan pages I don't even see in a gypsy rose edit on TikTok. It's just a bit mad. And I'm all for the forgiveness of people who have served their time. [00:02:22] Speaker A: 100% reform, baby. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah, but I'm just. To this level, where do we need to be buying cameos from her? [00:02:29] Speaker A: No. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Yes. [00:02:31] Speaker A: $20 for her to wish me dad happy birthday. [00:02:33] Speaker B: Allow it. Can we just let her just do her? [00:02:35] Speaker A: Put a little message. Dad, if you don't start. If you don't start giving me more pocket money, you know what's going to happen. [00:02:39] Speaker B: I don't know how many it's going to be on the screen right now. I have no idea how many followers she has on Instagram, but it's shocked. Got to be at least in the seven figures by now. [00:02:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:47] Speaker B: It's going to be a ridiculous number. Whatever this number is here, I'm going to go down because it's going to be below me. All right. Yeah, but it's too much. [00:02:56] Speaker A: I mean, what I was going to say there was. She can't have been that oppressed if she had a boyfriend, for one, because if I remember correctly, from the bits I've seen of the show, she, like, didn't have a life at all. That she was ill and she was. [00:03:08] Speaker B: Drugging Munchausen by prom. [00:03:11] Speaker A: I was going to say, yeah, because she think that she needed to look after her. [00:03:14] Speaker B: Yeah, it is, but that was the whole thing, and it wasn't. It was just a codependency, that she needed a mum to need her. [00:03:20] Speaker A: You mean the mum needed the daughter. [00:03:22] Speaker B: But, you know, her, man, now that she's got. [00:03:24] Speaker A: Is it the same guy? So did the guy kill her? [00:03:26] Speaker B: The guy killed teaching me in prison. [00:03:27] Speaker A: I don't know. The guy killed her and he's the one who went. [00:03:29] Speaker B: He's still in prison and he's come out. [00:03:33] Speaker A: No one knows his name, but he's come out. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Spoke to a medium, seen videos in people saying that he doesn't agree with it, that she's getting this limelight and all this praise because they're in this together. [00:03:43] Speaker A: It should be gypsy and Dave or whatever it's called. [00:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah, Dave. That's his name. But I've seen people saying that her new man, her fiance, she's moved on as well. Has a striking resemblance to her mum. No lie. The striking resemblance of someone. Someone did, like, a fade of the images over each other and then faded it from his mom, him to her mum. [00:04:03] Speaker A: It's a new level of mummy issues. [00:04:05] Speaker B: A lot alike. [00:04:06] Speaker A: It's a different level of mummy issues. [00:04:07] Speaker B: It's a lot alike. Which is kind of makes sense though because I can't imagine, because this is. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Kind of makes sense. [00:04:13] Speaker B: Listen, I've been forced to watch enough murder mysteries in that where they end up either fantasizing or going back to someone who looks like someone who calls them the grand. [00:04:23] Speaker A: With daddy issues, when you get, like, abusive parents, any girl you know who's had a shit relationship with a dad goes for someone who looks like him. [00:04:31] Speaker B: Yeah. That often is the case. And that's what I think is happening where she's seeing familiarity in him because his face profile, it is a bit mad, but they're very similar. She's looking up right now and she sees. Look at her face. She's typed in gypsy Rose Blanchard, boyfriend. Mom. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Now please put that in front of the camera. I want to see. [00:04:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Fucking mum. I thought she was doing it. [00:04:58] Speaker A: She was like, yeah, I'm looking at you. She might play Tetris, she might know a lot about. [00:05:01] Speaker B: She's a Gen Z, she's on the, she's on the social media, she knows what I'm talking about. But that's all I had to say on that. [00:05:07] Speaker A: Well, I mean, to be fair, I saw her on some, like, what, the US equivalent of good morning, Britain or whatever, and she was like, yeah. I realized now that it wasn't the right thing to do, but to do it. [00:05:17] Speaker B: Flawless impression. [00:05:18] Speaker A: Thank you very much. Thank you very. [00:05:21] Speaker B: What? [00:05:22] Speaker A: Whoever the Holly Willoughby equivalent of is, like, you go, girl. I would have done exactly the same thing. What a choice. Did you have all this. I'm like, again, you should be teaching children. Did you laugh at Tetris or have you googled the guy? She's googled the guy. [00:05:38] Speaker B: Don't put it in front of the camera because it'll reset. Yeah, it's similar in it. [00:05:41] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:05:41] Speaker B: Do you want me to see it from there? [00:05:42] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:05:43] Speaker B: It's shockingly similar. [00:05:45] Speaker A: Fair play. They're the exact same fair play. [00:05:48] Speaker B: They're the exact same fair play. [00:05:50] Speaker A: But this week I can't get that. [00:05:51] Speaker B: She's obviously mad at her because it's her own life and she now should be able to go forward and do. [00:06:01] Speaker A: What she wants again. I know we're making a joke about it and because I don't know too much about what actually happened, but she did what she had to do. Whatever. And I agree. I believe in the prison system, man. Go in, do your time. Fair play. You get a second chance, but you don't go on Jimmy Fallon being like, I did it. [00:06:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:23] Speaker A: She'S going to have her own. Well, she's already had her own show, but, I mean, she's going to be like an actress. [00:06:27] Speaker B: She'll be splashed with endorsement deals. [00:06:30] Speaker A: She'll be a judge on American Idol soon. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah, 100% she will be. Why not? That's America's thing, though. They got to just make end murderer. Yeah. Love a murderer. [00:06:39] Speaker A: Ted Bundy was still alive. [00:06:40] Speaker B: He'd be like, me and Ted Bundy. [00:06:41] Speaker A: He'd have a number one. [00:06:43] Speaker B: Also be a dj, documentary and the film. He wasn't that good looking. [00:06:48] Speaker A: Well, Ted Bundy. Yeah, well, Zac Efron is. [00:06:50] Speaker B: But the guy, when he's Zac Efron, it makes sense because then you watch it and then they show the real footage at the end. You're like, he's so dreamy. [00:06:57] Speaker A: I know. [00:06:57] Speaker B: But maybe just because they compare him to their average serial killer at the time, like Charles Manson also, Charles Manson. [00:07:03] Speaker A: Was better looking at Budha. [00:07:04] Speaker B: I thought on this, someone mentioned this. They went, Charles Manson also, actually, to our knowledge, never killed someone with his own hands. He just did it. [00:07:11] Speaker A: That's true. He just twisted everyone, had everyone else. [00:07:13] Speaker B: Doing it for him, but they were saying the same thing. They were like, kind of. What's it? Obviously, it's very different because he killed through him way more people. [00:07:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. But he had a cult, though, and it was full cult following. [00:07:23] Speaker B: We'll do next week's episode. Favorite cults in order. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Cults and conspiracies. [00:07:28] Speaker B: Cults and seas. That's the title right there. I got to make that logo, right? [00:07:33] Speaker A: Yeah. What's the worst something Baptist church. What it just. West Baptist. [00:07:40] Speaker B: The West Baptist something church. I know what you're talking about. [00:07:42] Speaker A: The Louis through one. Anyway, I'd love to do a good episode of that. Nutters they are not. Yeah. Anyway, threw me that. Anyway, ignore me. Sorry about that. [00:07:52] Speaker B: But, yeah, we're going to do a conspiracy. [00:07:54] Speaker A: Yes, we will do that. Top ten cults. [00:07:57] Speaker B: Give me top ten cults. Top ten men. [00:07:58] Speaker A: I know you like our top ten lists, but we can really get our hand if you want. [00:08:02] Speaker B: We're going to go really obscure with it. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:03] Speaker B: We'll go from, like, top ten sweets, top ten british crisp to top ten. Like, top ten war crabs. [00:08:10] Speaker A: Top ten. Yeah. [00:08:14] Speaker B: Top ten walkers are top ten war crabs. That's a title right there. That's a title right there. Yeah, we'll do that. [00:08:21] Speaker A: This camera needs. It needs, like, a be real version on this camera where you can watch what she's just sat over there playing tetris, dropping little comedy one liners. Well, anyway, that gypsy Rose Blanchard interview wasn't the only mad interview I saw. Over the last two weeks we've been. [00:08:34] Speaker B: Away, I've watched the whole thing. It took me like eight sittings to watch the cat Williams, Shannon Sharp, and I've watched so many of Shannon Sharp's interviews, I watched him every day. [00:08:43] Speaker A: You can't do that, Kat. [00:08:44] Speaker B: That's not bad. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:08:46] Speaker B: That was not bad. Double your height and weight. [00:08:51] Speaker A: Yeah, but I think I was actually, I realized I just accidentally did the SNL version of it. [00:08:55] Speaker B: You did? I think I did do the SNL version of it. You kind of almost sound like Scooby Doo as well. There was a bit of Scooby Doo, but in that. But that SNL performance is so good. I was so excited when I saw it because, you know, I watch every week and I saw it was on the next sketch and it was so funny. It was classic because he was saying things like, he was like, before trees, before me, trees brought nothing to the table. I invented fruit. And he goes, Kat, you invented no fruit. [00:09:23] Speaker A: We was like, in the actual interview, whenever Kat would say anything, shannon Shout would be like, yo, you need to laugh on that whiskey or whatever. So then on the SNL sketch, like, the whiskey glass was like this. But, mate, oh, my God, that interview, I'm still shook from it. [00:09:42] Speaker B: Yeah. These are all things that I feel like I've been talking about, saying or reading about for years. And to have someone of status to say all this thing that you think are going on is exactly what's been going on. And this is all very rigged and this is all very paid for. [00:09:57] Speaker A: And things like, you got someone as famous as Kat Williams just coming out, telling everyone Will Smith takes up the ass. It was just insane. He was naming and shaming left, right and know Kevin Hart's an industry plant and he was talking about. What was that? Oh, my favorite one. When he was like, I can't remember what film he was talking about, but he was talking about some film that he auditioned for. No, I don't think it was, though. It was one where he was like, he was told he was going to be the only black actor on there. Oh, yeah. And he said, they told me I'd be the. I'd get the role if I suck the producer's dick in front of all of the cast and crew. And he was like, and I said no. And he turned up on the first day of set and there was 20 other black actors there. And he was like. I said, no, what y'all do? That was fucking so funny because it was like. I mean, when he said about ludicrous, he said it was him or ludicrous. Got asked to join the Illuminati and they were offered, what was it? 20 million? [00:10:46] Speaker B: Yeah. 20 films this summer? [00:10:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. It was 20 films, 2 million whatever. [00:10:51] Speaker B: Per film for this long. [00:10:52] Speaker A: And what did he say? He said something. You'll get some, like trophy wife. Trophy wife. Who's never going to say anything on camera, never going to have a vocalized opinion for herself. She's just basically going to watch you. And he said. And I said no. So there you go. And ludicrous. And what is it? Shannon shouts at some well, what do you mean? And he was like, well, how many fast and furious films is there? I mean, is it ten now? Because you've watched the man, I've not bothered, but ten. I mean, ludicrous has made a career, an acting career alone of just. I mean, I know he's been in the OD thing, but basically just fast and furious. [00:11:20] Speaker B: I don't know anything else he's been in. [00:11:21] Speaker A: I can picture one of those, like american love actually kind of films. I think it's called New Year's Eve. You know, one of them ones where it's got like. [00:11:30] Speaker B: You're talking about Valentine's Day. [00:11:32] Speaker A: No, there's one called New Year's Eve. He's in one of them. [00:11:35] Speaker B: Anyway, I know which one you focused. [00:11:37] Speaker A: There is one called Valentine's Day and. [00:11:38] Speaker B: They both have literally like 40 acts and little stories in it. [00:11:42] Speaker A: But other than that, basically it's just been fast and furious. Yeah, but I mean, some of the things he's dropping on this, I was telling my mum all about it when we were on some long car journey and I was just like, people aren't grasping. I mean, people in our day to day life anyway, aren't grasping. I think how big some of the things he was dropping on that this is the. And I honestly believe every word he says, 1 million. As much as. He's a bit of a crackpot in. [00:12:08] Speaker B: His own right, not going to lie about this stuff, because so much of this is backed up and taught by other people. And I saw when they did the kings of comedy reunion years ago, like 2016 or whatever, and on the stage was Cedric the Antainer, Steve Harvey, DL Hughley and obviously, they're missing Bernie Mac because he'd been dead a few years at that point and Cat Williams was in the audience and he was listening. And then Steve Harvey was saying those things about Bernie and how much he loved him and all this kind of stuff, and then obviously cut into Kat Williams. He was listening, just. Mm hmm. And now that we know now the context behind that, he said that Steve Harvey was undermining all these directors, saying, I'll do you for less money, which is mental that you would even do that. [00:12:50] Speaker A: But they were boys as well. They were supposed to be mates. [00:12:53] Speaker B: They were. And he talked about. He's stealing jokes. He never liked this. He's doing this to each other. And he said all that apart from D l Hughley, who is no surprise then. The least famous one. [00:13:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker B: I only know him because he was a guest. [00:13:06] Speaker A: Don't know what that noise was. [00:13:07] Speaker B: You definitely wouldn't have heard that. [00:13:09] Speaker A: You wouldn't have heard that DL Hughley. [00:13:10] Speaker B: Was a guest on something. I can't remember what it was. That was the only time I've ever heard of him. But the others are way more famous because they've been doing a bit of a madness and stole their soul. So it's just a bit of a bananas there. [00:13:28] Speaker A: I've loved everyone clapping back on him, though. I mean, even Kevin Hart. I saw Kevin Hart. This is one thing, though, where I was like, because again, I'm team cat. I believe everything he was saying and all this stuff, but I saw Kevin Hart saying that. Kat Williams said he sold some like 2 million tickets in a year, in last year or something. And Kevin Hart was like, beyonce doesn't sell 2 million tickets in a year. [00:13:50] Speaker B: Beyonce probably does sell 2 million. [00:13:51] Speaker A: I don't know if she does think about it, though. I mean, realistically, I mean, what, the Emmy N arena, for example, she does. [00:13:56] Speaker B: Stadiums are like Etiad. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Yeah, true. But they're still like, what, 60? [00:14:00] Speaker B: No, she'll do Wembley, but then Wembley seats and ground. [00:14:04] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's the top. That's 100,000. [00:14:07] Speaker B: Yeah, good point. So she'd have to do, if she. [00:14:10] Speaker A: Plays, is it the AO arena now? I've refused to call it that, but for people who don't know what the. [00:14:14] Speaker B: Emmy N arena, the phones for you, arena. [00:14:18] Speaker A: What'S that? 16, 18,000. Realistically, she's going to be playing them all over the world and she didn't go on that big either way. [00:14:24] Speaker B: If that's the thing, that he comes back. What about everything else? [00:14:28] Speaker A: He called me an industry plant. But he doesn't sell as many tickets. [00:14:30] Speaker B: As he said he does exactly that. [00:14:32] Speaker A: So I don't know, it was pretty intriguing. Anyway. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Well, I need to see a sit down. That'd be great. Sit down between those two. [00:14:38] Speaker A: It would never happen. I want to see a sit down between Kat Williams and Kanye west. [00:14:42] Speaker B: Oh, that'd be good. [00:14:43] Speaker A: I mean, Kat Williams did make a comment about Kanye west and he was like, oh, I should have checked before we watched it because it was brilliant. I think I sent it to you. It was like the best thing, the best summary of Kanye West I think I've ever heard anyone say. It was along the lines of, like, I don't know why we expect Kanye west to say the right. Like, I know exactly. It was somewhat like being annoyed at an american footballer for not scoring enough hockey goals. He's like, the guy is a musician who is a bit mental. Like, why are we expecting him to say politically correct things or to do this or whatever? And I was like, that's kind of a good point, actually. But he said it way better than that because Williams. But it was something like, just because Kat Williams is a Kanye of comedy, innit? I mean, you said that to me. [00:15:29] Speaker B: From an outside of the Illuminati, who's very successful, who all the media's just going, hey, look at this thing he's doing. He's crazy, though, trying to make you discredit what he's doing. [00:15:39] Speaker A: I mean, I won't repeat some of the things we've thought about Kanye West's recent. Well, say recent was probably a year ago, wasn't it? Recent outbreak. But a lot of it's coming full circle, isn't it? [00:15:52] Speaker B: I'm not trying to get my podcast shut down. There's things he said that have been outrageous, that I agree with the bread and butter of it, of what he's been saying. That has now become to be extremely true. I've been going, that's not true. That Dave Chappelle even touched upon on SNL when he was on. And he was saying things about who actually runs stuff and says how you can't make fun of these people and. [00:16:17] Speaker A: His clauses and contracts and stuff like that. And Kanye was on the thing, mean, without making excuses for the guy, as we've said many times before. I think the problem is with Kanye west is what he's saying. The essence of what he's saying is normally right. It's how he says it that's really bad, for sure. And also, I think Kanye west can come out with ten opinions or ten things that he thinks. And I'm like, nine of them. I'm like, whoa, that seems one of them is out. Hitler had really good dress sense, actually. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Yeah, he did. [00:16:42] Speaker A: You're like, wow, okay, right? Discredited the other nine. And again, that's not even to make excuses for him because you shouldn't be crediting Adolf Hitler's dress sense, you know, in this. [00:16:52] Speaker B: You know, the whole thing's about him. Obviously, he didn't get into art school. [00:16:54] Speaker A: Being a. Yeah, yeah. [00:16:56] Speaker B: Hitler was actually a terrible fucking. No, no. But have you ever seen his paintings? I think if you didn't know anything, you would look and go, they're amazing. But I watched a video and it was an artist talking about why they were bad and why he got rejected. And it was more like his shadows were way out of scale. His perspectives was off. Like, there was a scene where there was an isometric design and the door was the same size as the window, which is much further back. They were like, his anatomy of stuff was way off. So it looked good. But then when you look up close, you go, this is like an impossible building. [00:17:30] Speaker A: It's a pretty mad villain origin story that in it is. Can you imagine being like an art teacher marking your homework? And you're like, you sat there marking someone's work and you're like, door's too big. F fail. Fucking goes on to be Adolf Hitler. You feel pretty responsible. You should have just said that door was the right size, mate. [00:17:47] Speaker B: Yeah. You'd also be like, guess I was the catalyst for that. It might be a tiny bit of. [00:17:53] Speaker A: That's the kind of buy up we want to see. [00:17:55] Speaker B: The buy up from the art teacher. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Art teacher's perspective. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Yeah. And let's just see how they go. [00:18:01] Speaker A: Throughout the story for there. Maybe they were jewish. [00:18:04] Speaker B: They were jewish. [00:18:06] Speaker A: The art teacher. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah, they were jewish. [00:18:08] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Good point. So maybe that's why I hate jews. Well, this is the thing. Adolf Hitler's grandparents were jewish. I don't know if anyone knew that. [00:18:15] Speaker B: He also wasn't aryan. [00:18:16] Speaker A: Well, obviously. Yeah, sure. [00:18:18] Speaker B: Dark eyes and wasn't blonde. [00:18:20] Speaker A: I mean, I went to the Hitler museum in Berlin and I was like. I was absolutely baffled when I saw that he's literal. What? I mean, his grandparents. Everyone would say their grandparents are like, close family. To have someone that close be jewish and then, I don't know, maybe start a war on. Okay, I'm going to make sure that no one hears that Julie gave her bunny in. [00:18:47] Speaker B: That's true. Stop trying to quiet. And women's voices. Oh, my God. She's trying to shut down women in media. Yeah. [00:18:55] Speaker A: All right. Okay. Do you want to tell the world that you think Adolf Hitler's grandparents. That's why he hates jews. [00:18:59] Speaker B: That's a valid opinion. [00:19:01] Speaker A: Fair point. [00:19:01] Speaker B: I think he should stop trying to hush women's voices. [00:19:03] Speaker A: Wow. Okay. [00:19:04] Speaker B: You're not a swift. [00:19:05] Speaker A: You come and sit over here. Come over. This is a weird segue, but when you said, I'm not a swift ear, I've got an interesting point. And not to out, like an ex girlfriend vibe here. She's watching. She might be. She might be. No comment. Carry on. It's not the ex girlfriend you're thinking of. Oh, then I don't know, but still. And I actually had an argument with her once because. And then I've gone to see that this is a bit of a thing in the culture of people who don't like Taylor Swift music. There's a big feminist study between any men that don't like Taylor Swift music, apparently hate women. And I had this massive. But it wasn't an argument. It was like a heated discussion where I was, no, no. I think Taylor Swift's great, and I think what she's doing is great. And I'm a big advocate of her taking control of all the masses and stuff. Like, don't like her music. I don't like her music. [00:19:59] Speaker B: But you're a musician, so you're listening to it differently. [00:20:01] Speaker A: I know, but I was literally being called, like, a woman hater. It became a heated argument, of course you will, of me trying to defend that I don't hate women just because I don't like Taylor Swift's music. Not Taylor Swift as a person, by the way, because she was saying that she was doing this study at university or whatever, and it was about this whole study of people who don't like Taylor Swift, don't like women. I'm like, oh, my God. And this is why I can't get behind did the person. Swift fanatics. Because there's just mental swifties. [00:20:32] Speaker B: Get it right or they will come for us. [00:20:33] Speaker A: They will come for us. [00:20:34] Speaker B: They'll be knocking at you. Did this person who said that to, you know, how big of a fan you were of Kanye, though probably not saying, if she did, then that wouldn't help. [00:20:41] Speaker A: Because then it would help. [00:20:42] Speaker B: That would further perpetuate. [00:20:43] Speaker A: It wouldn't help. It wouldn't. Kanye west loves women. You've seen the pictures he's putting on of his wife. At the moment. Empowering her. [00:20:52] Speaker B: That's empowering. Yeah, that's it. [00:20:54] Speaker A: What's he said in empowering all of her? [00:20:56] Speaker B: What he said in violent crimes, he said, used to see women as something to conquer. [00:21:01] Speaker A: Now I see them as something to nurture. [00:21:02] Speaker B: Something to nurture. [00:21:04] Speaker A: That is a bar. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Maybe just not so much nowadays, but still. [00:21:08] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. [00:21:09] Speaker B: That was a while ago. And that's true. [00:21:11] Speaker A: That's true. I feel like I do a lot of defending of Kanye west and people to not know the things I do disagree with that he said. But anyway, you've brought enough about him. That's a fair point. Speaking of which, go ahead. I know we've spoken a lot about his albums. His albums. And I know we said, what, maybe three fucking episodes ago? [00:21:32] Speaker B: This is our fifth episode. We've spoke about his album. [00:21:36] Speaker A: This is probably the third one that's going to be on Spotify because Dave said this to me the other day, actually, he said he noticed something that you said on the podcast about what we said last week, and it was episode one. [00:21:44] Speaker B: Damn it. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Well, they were warm ups. They were warm ups anyway, because when we were talking about new albums coming that week, it was supposed to be Kanye's and that was what, December? And I told you we weren't going. [00:21:57] Speaker B: To get New Year's Eve to the 31st Jan or something, then the 18th, and now we're getting three volume, apparently volumes. [00:22:06] Speaker A: So, I mean, again, I'm super excited for that, but I will believe it when I see it. But usually when Kanye pushes something back, I mean, like with Donda, when he pushed it back and pushed it back and pushed, it's because it turned it into a 24 song album. [00:22:16] Speaker B: It wouldn't surprise me if they're all identical and it's just like a medium. Different versions, easy, medium hard version one's just like, what's the story with this bed's too soft. This bed's too hard. This bed's just right kind of thing. [00:22:29] Speaker A: Oh, goldilocks. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Goldilocks. [00:22:30] Speaker A: It's going to be segue the month. [00:22:33] Speaker B: Why? What are we talking about? [00:22:35] Speaker A: Kanye west album into goldilocks? [00:22:36] Speaker B: Oh, I thought you were like, had a story related to. No, I wouldn't be surprised if he has three identical albums and there's one verse changed in each version and the instrumentals a little bit. [00:22:46] Speaker A: Well, if it's anything like what we've come to know of the Kanye of the last few years, it's going to be ten songs and then ten songs of part two or the same song with different verses on it from different rappers. [00:22:55] Speaker B: And skit, that's just him, like taking a piss. [00:22:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Scoop diddy WHOOP scoop diddy WHOOP WHOOP. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Diddy scoop scoop dee WHOOP did poopy. [00:23:01] Speaker A: Scoop dee poop poopty scoopdy whoopty poop. [00:23:04] Speaker B: Considering the whole thing with that, Drake was meant to have that beat and then he did that to mock him. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Still a bit of a tune. [00:23:10] Speaker B: The beat is plot, though. [00:23:13] Speaker A: I wanted to hear the actual chance. No, the beat is sick. I think the beat on lift yourself is sick. And I think Drake would have made a fantastic tune out of it. [00:23:20] Speaker B: Maybe. Probably. [00:23:21] Speaker A: But I mean, even though it's Kanye West, I do completely fuck with. [00:23:24] Speaker B: Well, he squashed the beef now even. [00:23:26] Speaker A: Is it? And he squashed beef with kid Cuddy as well. [00:23:28] Speaker B: And he has, which is nice praise. They're back together. And he said all it took was just him just to apologize because he said, yay. Has never apologized. [00:23:35] Speaker A: Was it Zayn Lowey was talking to? [00:23:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it was. [00:23:37] Speaker A: Yeah. When he was like, that's my brother, man. He just needed apology, didn't he? I mean, you know, whenever Kanye west posts, like, an argument, he's had on screenshots it and puts it on his Instagram story, have you noticed the most bizarre arguments in the world? Because I saw one he put the other day and he was like, mayo's better than ketchup. [00:23:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:53] Speaker A: But then when the person he's talking to goes, I appreciate your opinion, even though I don't agree with it. Kanye west is like, I love how human beings can disagree because we are different. We are allowed to disagree. I love you, brother, for having it. And I'm like, what good impression. [00:24:06] Speaker B: It's almost line with the impression. Thank you very much. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Thank you very much. But can you imagine arguing with someone like that? I mean, I've heard through the grapevine I'm quite frustrating to argue with, but arguing with someone who's actually shouting at you, saying that they love you for disagreeing with them, the man just confuses me. That's another. [00:24:27] Speaker B: We've got a big argument, and I just don't think I can even get into it without food on me. [00:24:30] Speaker A: It's a good segue. Okay. Right. So I want a lot of backup right here from you all. And we've had a bit of. [00:24:38] Speaker B: You can have some biased backup. Go on. [00:24:39] Speaker A: That's true, basically since I've known Liam and we've always wound him up, because as much as Liam's a proud mank, he likes to think he was born in America. [00:24:48] Speaker B: America? [00:24:49] Speaker A: Fuck yeah. Anyway, so, you know, he's all basketball. No. Football. He's all SNL. No. Graham Norton show all that. Wait, just you wait. [00:25:00] Speaker B: Go on then. [00:25:00] Speaker A: Just you wait. Carry on. And so I know he's going to get no support from the comment section. I know it's going to be all me because it's going to be a load of football fans probably. And you don't even need to like football to find this quite interesting. But Liam is convinced that basketball is a harder sport or a more. What? Physically, not even necessarily just technical. It demands more technical ability. 100% correct than football, which I just think is. Okay, shall I go first? [00:25:30] Speaker B: Because I'm going to be cutting you off every turn. [00:25:31] Speaker A: Okay. [00:25:33] Speaker B: I'm going to say what is wrong? Go on. [00:25:34] Speaker A: I mean, all I have to say is the fact that your sport can literally go to, I mean, you know the guy's name. I don't know the guy's name, but there's the dude in China or there's the dude that came from some tribe in Africa where they just literally went and found the tallest on in the world. [00:25:50] Speaker B: Yeah, but they're not superstar players. [00:25:52] Speaker A: It's not the point. The fact that he can play professional level. You just you wait. Just you wait. Let me say. What me say. Let me say they can go and find the tallest on in the world, right? And say, okay, you can't dribble for shit. We're going to teach you how to just stand there, catch a ball, pass it. Oh, yeah. You can go and play in the NBA. You can go and play the top level. Can you imagine a footballer? [00:26:12] Speaker B: Not true. [00:26:12] Speaker A: I mean, first of all, there isn't a physical attribute, one physical attribute that is completely overruling as a footballer where if you've got that, you're going to be a fantastic footballer because you need actual. Yeah. [00:26:22] Speaker B: That's what makes basketball harder. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Not at all. [00:26:24] Speaker B: Yes, it is. [00:26:25] Speaker A: Not at all. Because if you're tall as shit, you don't need technical ability. No, bro. You've found players. [00:26:30] Speaker B: Incorrect. [00:26:30] Speaker A: You have found players who have never touched a basketball before who can play in the NBA. [00:26:35] Speaker B: What are you talking about? Yeah, they don't just get up off the streets and they ball in the next league. Still. [00:26:41] Speaker A: They give him a little bit of training even still, though, these are players. Name me one footballer who's never kicked a ball before he was the age of 18. Okay, you can't name. But that's because there won't be one who has gone on to play at the top, top level, who never kicked a ball before 18. And then someone found him and went, I'm going to teach you. [00:26:56] Speaker B: Okay, how about this? Then I'll say this. I'll tell you this, and this is my point in it, I categorically believe there is a bigger difference. Let me speak. There is a bigger difference between the very best player in professional basketball. Who are you going to put that as? And the very worst player in professional basketball in the NBA than there is in like the Premier league. [00:27:17] Speaker A: Wait, sorry. Do you mean the best player in the NBA and the worst play in the NBA? [00:27:20] Speaker B: Say the Harland right now you'd say is best play in the Prem. Whoever the worst player in the prem is, there's a shorter gap between them two than there is in the best and worst player in the NBA. 100%. [00:27:29] Speaker A: That's not an attribute to your sport, though. [00:27:31] Speaker B: No, it is, but no, it's not. [00:27:32] Speaker A: Attribute to your sport, because there isn't that many levels of your sport. [00:27:35] Speaker B: That's because the skill level on yours, everyone can do the same things. Fucking listen. Some people can do certain things better than other players can. That's totally fair. [00:27:47] Speaker A: But just because there's that many technical proficiencies, you need to play football. [00:27:51] Speaker B: No, this is the reason why football. I'm going to put this. This is the reason why football is a better sport and the world sport, because everyone can play it. Not everyone could play basketball. Nothing to do with height, let's say Lowett, so incorrect. [00:28:04] Speaker A: Bullshit. Listen, it's because it's an american sport. [00:28:08] Speaker B: Primarily, but it was birth. [00:28:10] Speaker A: Listen, still primarily. [00:28:12] Speaker B: Listen. [00:28:12] Speaker A: Followed. [00:28:13] Speaker B: In America, every single human being was the exact same height. Everyone's 510. Men, women, whatever. Your kids grow 18, everyone's 510. Let's say it's that the sport of basketball would still be a harder sport than football because of the technical ability that is harder to master in basketball, football, the ball's on the ground, you. And don't even say you can use your hand because there's so much more. Your arms don't mean anything on that point. All your limbs on that point. Important to the sport in football. [00:28:43] Speaker A: Is that why drummers, it's the easiest play drums because we're all used to using all of our limbs? No, it's a complete. No, I know. I'm not flopping. [00:28:51] Speaker B: You're bringing in irrelevant. [00:28:52] Speaker A: No, because I can go right back on this, right? You're right. Go on everything. Oh, my God. What can I just make one point. You're not doing this to make a point. You need to tell me the camera is on fire because I'm vexed right now. [00:29:03] Speaker B: Does someone better burglary house basketball player. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Bend over and cry mid game? Just saying. Oh, sure, you haven't watched any basketball because they fight and cry all the time. [00:29:13] Speaker B: They do fight and cry, but anyway, right? [00:29:15] Speaker A: Not the point. [00:29:15] Speaker B: Thank you, lils. I got. [00:29:16] Speaker A: Shut up. Not the point. Not the point. [00:29:17] Speaker B: Go on. [00:29:18] Speaker A: Human beings, right? [00:29:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:19] Speaker A: What are these hands? We all use them. We all know how to use them. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:24] Speaker A: I think anything that's a sport that involves your hands, you already have a head start learning how to do it because we all do everything with our hands. No, how much do you do with your feet other than walk and run? [00:29:33] Speaker B: Kick a ball. It's easy. [00:29:35] Speaker A: No, it's not. You do everything in your life with this. [00:29:39] Speaker B: Do you think that possible? Thumbs. Yeah, but to do what you need to do with a ball, a fucking. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Monkey can play basketball. [00:29:44] Speaker B: No. Yeah, a monkey can play basketball at the most, because it's so easy level. But listen here. [00:29:49] Speaker A: They could catch, they could dribble, they could throw. [00:29:51] Speaker B: No, they couldn't. [00:29:52] Speaker A: They could. I'm not talking about plays. [00:29:55] Speaker B: No. [00:29:55] Speaker A: Seeing passes and vision and stuff like that. And I'm not talking about that football either. I'm talking about the fact that you don't know how to use your feet. You don't know how to use your feet until you learn how to play football. Whereas when you're a basketball player, you have to use your fucking hands before you learn how to play basketball. [00:30:08] Speaker B: Listen, I. As someone who doesn't play football, who's played it there and here and there over the course of my life, could comfortably come in and. [00:30:16] Speaker A: No, you couldn't. Listen, you absolutely couldn't. [00:30:18] Speaker B: No, I'm not saying play professional ball. I know you're not play a casual five aside. [00:30:22] Speaker A: Not really. [00:30:23] Speaker B: But I have a fair side and I'd be fine because all I'm doing is just running, being physical and just passing a ball about and having a kick. Standard. [00:30:30] Speaker A: You'd still be a bag of shit. [00:30:31] Speaker B: Listen, doesn't matter. [00:30:32] Speaker A: I could go into one of yours. I could go into one of your. What are they called? Fucking what, they courts. No, just like a throwaway game. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Scrimmage. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Scrimmage. I could go into one of your scrimmages and as long as I don't shoot. [00:30:41] Speaker B: No, you couldn't. [00:30:42] Speaker A: As long as I don't shoot, I'm telling you I would fit in, you. [00:30:45] Speaker B: Would not be able to go more than 1 mile an hour, bounce the ball without floor. But we're saying, how about this then? Okay, experiment time. Let's say Mr. Beast is going to do this, right. You take 100 people from north Sentinel, Ireland, who have no experience of outside life, get 100 of them, put them in two different gyms for 100 days, and you train 50 on basketball, 50 on football, and then the end, tell them which sport is harder, and then they swap. [00:31:12] Speaker A: And I'm telling you, they'll be better at basketball by the end of the 100 days. Of course they will. [00:31:16] Speaker B: That's just racist. [00:31:17] Speaker A: It's not. Listen, do you know what it is? It's ablest because they know how to use their hands before they go in. [00:31:23] Speaker B: Impossible. [00:31:24] Speaker A: But nobody does anything with their feet. Nobody has any hand. Do you know what it's called? Hand to eye coordination. We've all got it. It's not called foot to eye coordination. [00:31:32] Speaker B: I wouldn't know. But anyone, right. Anyone who's in the right now, listen, anyone who's in the comments right now has got a significant time with both sport. If you just basketball, I can't listen. If you just football, I can't listen. Someone who's got a significant watching of both sports or playing, I promise you, everyone I know who plays ball also plays football. And every single one of them says the exact same things, that technically it's a harder sport. I'm not saying it's light years ahead, but I'm saying the basics of it because you're just picturing, oh, I can hold it, I can run easy. [00:32:04] Speaker A: I understand the basics are easier to get to. And I understand that the basics and the top level are like farther, further apart. But it's more the fact that if I got a random person who's, let's just say I've picked an 18 year old that had no sporting capability. [00:32:17] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:32:17] Speaker A: And give him three months to practice on a court, he could hold himself in a scrimmage. No, he couldn't. He could. [00:32:23] Speaker B: He couldn't. [00:32:24] Speaker A: He could. [00:32:24] Speaker B: He could not. [00:32:25] Speaker A: And I know what you're saying about you playing five aside. You could stand there as a defender and just pass that side. But that isn't that easy either, because at the end of the day, you'd be glued to your feet. You'd be looking at your feet of where to I just pass it. [00:32:36] Speaker B: When I can see someone, I can. [00:32:39] Speaker A: Catch a ball and throw a ball without looking because I know how to use my hands. [00:32:41] Speaker B: No, you couldn't. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Control the ball and pass a ball without looking at your feet. [00:32:44] Speaker B: Oh, I could. No, you couldn't. I think I could. [00:32:46] Speaker A: I know for a fact you could. But I think I could. [00:32:48] Speaker B: But I think I could. No, but the thing is, not in. [00:32:51] Speaker A: The speed of play anyway. [00:32:52] Speaker B: At the most basic level, passing side of my foot, kick it, the front of it, or the little left corner in the goal. Whereas basketball already, just as you just. [00:33:01] Speaker A: Described, one possible way of kicking a ball, just. [00:33:03] Speaker B: I'm saying. But that's the bread and butter of it, right? No, it's not the bread and butter of basketball. To dribble a ball, sprinting while bouncing it and just to shoot it alone would take someone who's never touched it months to try and get to a good form where they feel comfortable. [00:33:17] Speaker A: Form is what I mean. Form is where is where the end bit, right? The end result gets into the fine lines. Get into form. [00:33:24] Speaker B: No, because you can't shoot like that. This ain't netball. We're not doing chess. [00:33:27] Speaker A: They can shoot over the fuck they want if it goes in. [00:33:29] Speaker B: But that's the thing. It never would go in if you're doing like this and like this. [00:33:32] Speaker A: That's not true. [00:33:33] Speaker B: Oh, yes, it would, but you don't play enough. [00:33:35] Speaker A: I'll tell you exactly why. Because I'm going to expose myself. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Go on. [00:33:39] Speaker A: When I was working at my school the other week, at the end of the day, when I was. [00:33:42] Speaker B: Those kids don't ball. [00:33:43] Speaker A: Not the point. Shut up. Go on. Backing up. I went and put some stuff in the cupboard. I saw the gym door was open and there was a basketball layer. Went in. Half court shot. Football throw in. It went in. No, it didn't, I swear. I might. Full size basketball. It might have been a four, I'm not sure. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Four. [00:33:58] Speaker A: The size below a four in football is the size below, so it's a size six. [00:34:02] Speaker B: This is a women's ball, so smaller ball. [00:34:04] Speaker A: It was the size below a full one. But it doesn't matter. My point being, I didn't go like that. Yeah, it was a football throw in. It doesn't matter what the four form is. [00:34:10] Speaker B: Yes, it does. [00:34:11] Speaker A: No, it doesn't. [00:34:11] Speaker B: Yes, it does. [00:34:12] Speaker A: I, of course, know that you're better at shooting if you've got better form, but at the end of the day, you are throwing a ball in a net. [00:34:17] Speaker B: True, but everyone has the almost identical form because that's the form that works. Some very rare players will shoot it a little differently and it happens to work for them. But 90, I'm not saying you get it every time. Of course you won't get it every time, but that just proves how hard it is where I could kick a ball in a net on a keeper that was a fair keeper, I could probably score a pen, no problem. [00:34:41] Speaker A: Deborah, that does not express any level of difficulty because everyone knows that with a pen. I mean, I'm so annoyed. I don't know, starts right now. But for penalties, right. It is something like 70 30 in favor of the scorer anyway. Like a goalkeeper is not expected to save. That's why it's an achievement. Because if he actually pulls off a save. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Because. [00:34:58] Speaker A: No. [00:34:58] Speaker B: Easy though, if I. I said to you, you got to make the same amount of free throws as you have to score pens, you're going to probably score more pens. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Not just because you're going to score less pens. [00:35:07] Speaker B: No, you wouldn't, because you would not get. [00:35:09] Speaker A: There's a person trying to stop you. [00:35:10] Speaker B: For one, the person trying to stop you would be your form trying to shoot a basketball from 50 if you. [00:35:15] Speaker A: Couldn'T take the way your form alone. Now, I know you can semi stand. Oh, I thought she was fucking. You're distracting you and I'm vexed. I know that you can kick a ball and maybe play five aside. You're like, whatever. Normal level, right? You trying to take a penalty. You took ten penalties, right, against not even a goalkeeper, but just someone who actually has played in goal a few times. Right? [00:35:38] Speaker B: Top on it. Exactly. [00:35:40] Speaker A: That's my point. [00:35:41] Speaker B: Right, but I'll score a couple. [00:35:43] Speaker A: Scoring a penalty is so much easier than it looks. So much harder than it looks. [00:35:47] Speaker B: You just said you just. Freudian slip. Put the definition of freudian slip on the screen right now. [00:35:54] Speaker A: I saw someone do a big Freudian slip the other day with, I'm not going to get into that. Anyway, it's a fact. Because penalties are so much harder than what people realize. Ask any professional football. That's why you get professional football. [00:36:10] Speaker B: Does Ronaldo score them all then? [00:36:12] Speaker A: Because he's Cristiano Ronaldo. [00:36:14] Speaker B: Whatever. [00:36:15] Speaker A: Exactly. That's like saying, why did Kobe shoot so many three throws? [00:36:19] Speaker B: Because he's fucking teammates. [00:36:21] Speaker A: That's a fair point. Listen, and the thing is, what I always want to track back on and say is I'm not for one saying that basketball is easy and I'm not for one saying that it doesn't take profound technical ability. I'm just saying. And this is what I want to make clear to everyone to back me up, is that from starting level, I think people take to basketball quicker than they would take to football purely because, as I said, people have better than others. But we all have hand to eye coordination at some degree. We all have been using our hands since birth to do pretty much everything in our day to day lives. And I'm not being funny when that's your main tool, it's a pretty good head start. Whereas if you've never kicked a ball, if you've never done anything with your feet. Have you ever seen Bambi on ice, Joe? Hard it is for people to have any kind of control of their feet with a ball when they've never done it before. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Yeah, easy. That's why it's the world sport. [00:37:13] Speaker A: It's fucking not. [00:37:14] Speaker B: That's why kids in villages in Sri Lanka are kicking up a little ball made of paper and they're doing tricks and that because they can do. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Because they've got a fuck all else to do and they're practicing doing it. [00:37:25] Speaker B: That's why, you know, also, I did actually try to verify this ESPN bollocks. I get what you mean, I know what you're going to say, but listen, ESPN did a chart. Sky Sports, ESPN, listen, I'll try and find it. Sky Sports then. But ESPN, because it was the only example I could find. They ranked every major world sport in a series. It was like 500, not 500. [00:37:46] Speaker A: Sorry, I saw this list, it was bollocks. [00:37:47] Speaker B: Listen, though, listen. This is a new one than the one you've seen, is it? This is a new one, I believe, because I know what you're talking about. Because last time we looked here, we both agreed it was wrong and they'd ranked them all. And they said the credentials. They said we had people who were ex athletes from almost all of these sports, Olympians, sports journalists and analysts. So they couldn't have had a more diverse spread. You know, where no basketball was, I can't remember, but I think it was number four or five. It was number four or five and football was like ten, I think it was. You know what they had first, which kind of makes sense. I think it was boxing first, which kind of makes sense because of the physical element. And they had golf at two, which makes sense because golf is rock hard. [00:38:26] Speaker A: It's rock hard, but it shouldn't fucking count as a sport. [00:38:28] Speaker B: I get what you're saying, but it doesn't matter. But they had basketball literally at four or five and football was at ten. Now, I wouldn't say the list was rock solid. Yeah, you can goff one out, that's all. Fine, because there were some others before football went. That's definitely not this or that. So I get it. Because he had like american football was higher, which I don't think it is because once you've learned how to throw, are you strong and can you run? [00:38:47] Speaker A: Yeah. And you got 4 hours of standing around while the adverts were on. Yeah, I don't chilling, but. [00:38:50] Speaker B: So I don't agree with that. And I'm not saying it's like football, basketball. I mean, it's like football. [00:38:57] Speaker A: Listen, I'm not being funny. One of those bullshit lists off ESPN doesn't give you any grounds because any list I've seen from any journalist about anything is usually wrong. [00:39:06] Speaker B: Listen, we'll do a poll for it. We'll do a poll on Instagram or in the comments of this. Which one is harder? That's it. Not watch. Sport is better, which is entertaining, which sport is harder to play, just more difficult to play. And I promise you, even though we've got a very biased audience of football fans, I just feel like they would just put away their bias aside and go, it is basketball. It is basketball. [00:39:30] Speaker A: The only other thing that would ever want to fight you to the death on with a poll is a subject matter. We disagree on that. I can't. This is the only one on a podcast. [00:39:39] Speaker B: This is the only one. [00:39:40] Speaker A: And that's the older. What's your mate? [00:39:46] Speaker B: That is not the whole, I'd love. [00:39:48] Speaker A: To fight him to the death on this. [00:39:49] Speaker B: We're not doing that. We're not doing that one on this podcast anyway because it's not right for this platform. Our demographic I checked on TikTok is young. We've got a lot of young ands checking in and they need to be verified on this kind of stuff. [00:40:03] Speaker A: What, on basketball, being a piece of piss to pick up if you're watching. [00:40:07] Speaker B: If you're pick up or listening right now and you've never played either sport, go and do both sports for a month. [00:40:13] Speaker A: Put it this way, you can go and play fucking basketball on your own. I could go to a court and just shoot a male. [00:40:19] Speaker B: Well, that's because. So you can go kick a ball and do some little step overs and. [00:40:24] Speaker A: That, not the same. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Once you've done a step over and you can do like what? A little flick over your head? Have you not just mastered the sport anyway? [00:40:29] Speaker A: It's from a level of insult. The level of insult you're adopting this american culture of just thinking that everything. But still, even though it's the best. [00:40:38] Speaker B: But listen, you would say you're a top tier football player. Allow your knee. [00:40:42] Speaker A: Say your knees, like, top tier. I would love to say that. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Let's say your knee is rock solid, right? [00:40:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And not crippled, but from the last. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Time, you were like, you think you'd football, the skill, the level that you were at, there were still things you could learn, but you were at, like, a top level that you're happy with, weren't you? [00:40:57] Speaker A: Well, no. [00:40:59] Speaker B: You're saying this now because you're trying. [00:41:00] Speaker A: To backtrack a level. I'm happy with what I'm saying. I would never be at a level I'm happy with. I would always work with better. [00:41:06] Speaker B: Infinite, infinite amount of moves in basketball that I'm still always learning myself and I'm playing a lot and trying to take on and things that players do that no one else does, that Kyrie Irving does, that nobody else can do, because it's still always adapting a new. [00:41:22] Speaker A: Do you know why that's still so surprising for you, though? Because you've got pretty much, what, one league in one major country. [00:41:27] Speaker B: True. [00:41:28] Speaker A: So it's taking less to develop. [00:41:29] Speaker B: No, they got Europe. They got Europe as well. But I hear what you look at. [00:41:31] Speaker A: Football from now to 100 years ago, it's unrecognizable. [00:41:35] Speaker B: I bet it is. [00:41:35] Speaker A: It's unrecognizable from ten. [00:41:36] Speaker B: They're now kicking with the left foot as well as the right. No, we get that because kicking the old pig skin in the 50s, in basketball, when you watch it, it was a lot of just this, and no one used their left punching like that. I always see comments that say, like, if Kyrie was in the league in the 50s, he would have been burned for witchcraft. [00:41:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:55] Speaker B: They would have said he would have been doing magic. [00:41:57] Speaker A: I get that. [00:41:57] Speaker B: It would have been literally like magic to them because it was so different and evolutionary from what that was at the time. Just as football is like when you see, I'm going to Patrick Vieira. I don't know if that was a. [00:42:11] Speaker A: Good example of what I mean, it is a footballer. Yeah. [00:42:15] Speaker B: Was he not really good? [00:42:16] Speaker A: He's really good, but is he dead? [00:42:18] Speaker B: No, he's not dead. He was an arsenal player. [00:42:20] Speaker A: In fact, he was the Crystal palace manager a couple of months ago. [00:42:23] Speaker B: He was an Arsenal player, though. [00:42:24] Speaker A: He was an arsenal player with Titi. Thierry Henry. Yeah. That's in your expertise, though, that, like early Barclays. [00:42:31] Speaker B: It is, it is. I know who Garnacco is. [00:42:34] Speaker A: Viva Garnacco. [00:42:37] Speaker B: That was pretty good. [00:42:38] Speaker A: The power of friendship. [00:42:39] Speaker B: Is he not the. Is he not a sausage that he's the best young player in the prem? [00:42:44] Speaker A: I would fight that. [00:42:45] Speaker B: How old is he? [00:42:46] Speaker A: Push? He's 1919. Yeah, ma'am, that is mad, that. [00:42:49] Speaker B: Think about the 19 year olds, you know? [00:42:51] Speaker A: And he's already been playing for United two years. [00:42:53] Speaker B: Sounds like a pretty easy spot. So he's playing Sunny league and he's got rich parents send him to academies. [00:43:00] Speaker A: No, he's actually argentinian and come from a slum. [00:43:03] Speaker B: Has he? [00:43:05] Speaker A: I think with sportsmen especially, though, and sports people, that makes the best people have come from the least. [00:43:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree. That's often the case. [00:43:14] Speaker A: I mean, it's why you get Brazilians and like south american footballers that just can do things with a football you've never seen in your life, because they've pretty much been in their yard with a football. [00:43:23] Speaker B: I saw a video of this and it was on a beach and it was a bunch of kids, like men, women everywhere, mate. [00:43:27] Speaker A: They're insane. [00:43:27] Speaker B: And they're just throwing it, doing the maddest tricks. And it was brazilian citizenship test. [00:43:31] Speaker A: Yeah, literally, jockovanillo. [00:43:33] Speaker B: It was like either average or worst brazilian football player. [00:43:36] Speaker A: Yeah, literally. [00:43:37] Speaker B: This is the standard for the lowest of the low because they're just out the womb just doing kick up. [00:43:41] Speaker A: It does remind me of one of my favorite quotes of a footballer that I've seen for a while. And favorite, just because it's so stupid, but hilarious. Have you heard of a guy called Anthony? He's playing for United now, Marshall. So this is the confusing bit. We had Anthony Alanga, Anthony Martial and Anthony playing at the same time. [00:43:56] Speaker B: His only name is Anthony. [00:43:58] Speaker A: He's brazilian. His name's Anthony. [00:43:59] Speaker B: What's brazilian's like that? Like Adele. [00:44:00] Speaker A: Brazilian's always Eminem, Cher, all the brazilian footballer examples that you alone know. And you went for Adele and Cher and Eminem. Not Ronaldinho or Caca or Sergio Wakaka. Sergio wakaka. [00:44:14] Speaker B: No, I know who he is. [00:44:16] Speaker A: Okay, fantastic. [00:44:17] Speaker B: Alexis Sanchez. [00:44:18] Speaker A: He is from Chile, but south American still. Anyway, Anthony's popular at the moment because Fabricas. Shut up. It's sesk fabricas, if any. And it's Francesca Fabricas. Anyway, so he's popular at the moment. Short the fuck up. He's popular at the moment because he cost united about 80 mil. And he's a bag of shit. Basically. Your ends. [00:44:37] Speaker B: Why is it when players come to United, do they just turn terrible then? Why is that? [00:44:40] Speaker A: Because United usually recruit poorly. And the fucking I'll recruit for him well, you think football's a piece of piss, so you'd be hiring mugs. [00:44:49] Speaker B: He works at Sainsbury's, but he's got a good attitude. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Yeah. You should see him pushing them trolleys. I see his footwork, honestly. He dances with them trolleys. Anyway, Anthony said he came from the favelas in Brazil, and he said, I think what's made me so brave as a footballer is because when I'd have bought my feet, I wasn't afraid of anyone. I had drug lords and gangsters coming and threatening me, and I just used to nutmeg them because I was afraid of no one. I thought that was my favorite fucking stupid quote I've ever read in my life. [00:45:15] Speaker B: And he's now bobbins. [00:45:16] Speaker A: Well, yeah, let's just say he's in bad form from being kind to him. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Old Trafford to, like, the ends of Manchester. [00:45:22] Speaker A: It is in the ends of Manchester, in a way, where it was. Now the ends have come up around it. The ends are about two minutes down the road. [00:45:29] Speaker B: It is about two minutes down the road. Stop giving away your location. [00:45:33] Speaker A: Sorry. Is the camera woman having a stroke? [00:45:35] Speaker B: Slime on the floor. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Having a snooze. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Having a quick snooze. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Sweet. That was interesting. Okay, so I want to see what everyone thinks about that debate, because we ain't ever going to agree on that. We're never going to settle on it. And I suppose a football and a basketball is not. [00:45:49] Speaker B: There's no way to decipher it, because the more you play ball, if we went to go play football or basketball together, I would just further be into my thing. I think you'd be convinced, because you'd be like, you can kick a ball about here and there. [00:45:58] Speaker A: Yeah, but I know your football capability. Just because you can play a game, football, I know that doesn't mean you're great or doesn't mean you're bad, but that's a bad example of what you're going for. Maybe so, because you got to think like it out. It's been unavoidable football culture for you growing up, and still, somehow you've managed to live under a rock. But even when it comes to playing it, I mean, how many times have you played football at school? Probably a lot. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Because I was in set one pe, and I hated it, because set two and three always got to play rugby or basketball, because everyone in set one, all who wanted to was, like, the popular kids who always wanted to play football. [00:46:31] Speaker A: I mean, I'm shell shocked that I'm listening to a young lad in high school complaining that he gets to play football. [00:46:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:39] Speaker A: Because they never let us play football in PA because they knew it's just what everyone wanted to do. [00:46:42] Speaker B: Well, when I was in Trinity, we played basketball all the time because that was the main sport that everyone wanted to play. [00:46:47] Speaker A: Why? [00:46:47] Speaker B: Which made sense because that's what people wanted to play. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Okay. [00:46:52] Speaker B: And no other reason? No other reason. That was the sport. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Oh, fantastic. Do you know what? Since we're on football, I'm not going to go on it too much, but all these players have been going to Saudi Ella Tifaki, actually. Yes. That is a football team. [00:47:07] Speaker B: That's the only one I know. [00:47:08] Speaker A: That's the only one anyone knows anyway. Yeah. Obviously this exodus of players were going and going and going over Neymar. Neymar did go, yeah. So Jordan Henderson. You know Jordan Henderson? [00:47:19] Speaker B: No. [00:47:19] Speaker A: You do not Jordan Henderson? No. He was Liverpool captain. Jordy Dembele. Go on, you're not. Well, I don't know, James. He went to play for. I think it was that one Elati Faki. [00:47:31] Speaker B: Okay. [00:47:31] Speaker A: Or where it is. And he was getting paid 700 grand a week now in his pump. He was an average, decent footballer. He was just more of a bit of a bit of steel. So he was a good midfielder, plays for England. 700 grand a week is insane. But it was very controversial because he was the one, like, because he was England. Well, he wasn't England captain as well, he was Liverpool captain, but he was doing a lot for. When England went and played in Qatar, he was doing a lot for, well, just human rights and LGBTQ plus rights and all that stuff. And then obviously, second, someone's flash from cash. He's like, yes, we are going play in Saudi. Anyway, he's gone over there, right, in September, August. He's just moved to Ajax in the January window because he said he wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible. And it now turns out that I don't think he's been paid a penny ages. [00:48:20] Speaker B: But why, though? Because they're all minted. Why would they not pay? [00:48:22] Speaker A: No idea. No idea. But there's clauses in the contracts and stuff that they can't say, like a bad word about the saudi league because they're trying to raise the profile and all this stuff. Basically, loads of players are trying to leave and loads of players have come out and said, like, I'm not really supposed to say much, but they've made the transition quite difficult for us. So I don't know what that means. I showed you a picture of the video? I mean, I know it's the MLS messi playing in front of like ten people, but you should fucking see what it's like in Saudi. Jordan Henderson was the Liverpool captain, playing at Anfield in front of 60,000 every week. He was playing in front of about 80 people. 8080 for that much money, training, right? They were on bibs that you'd have for PE. You could smell the fish from here. It was like. And Gerard's the manager. [00:49:01] Speaker B: Gerard's been hired as he like the most. The wealthiest manager ever just from this, like his contract. [00:49:06] Speaker A: And it's so funny listening to having to do his media stuff for it there. We can't understand him, surely, just hearing a Scouser like Steven Gerd trying to say, trying to say faki, it was just fantastic. But anyway, all these players are leaving now and it's, well, like, you know, Korean Benzema. [00:49:24] Speaker B: Korean benzema. [00:49:25] Speaker A: Kareem Benzema. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Korean Benzema. [00:49:27] Speaker A: Not the Korean Benzema, the french one. The french one, yeah. Kareem. He was the Ballon d'Or holder as he went. He played about six games and he's now desperate to leave in January and United trying to sign him on loan. [00:49:38] Speaker B: Oh, that'd be good for you. [00:49:39] Speaker A: Yeah, real bad. [00:49:40] Speaker B: But then it makes him terrible though, when he comes here, right? [00:49:42] Speaker A: Probably because, you know, I do that to everyone. But apparently we can't afford him because he's on 900 grand a week, so we can't afford his wages. [00:49:50] Speaker B: 900 g's a week. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Imagine. Nearly a mill a week is a silly. I think he was one of, well, apart from, obviously, Ronaldo, he was one of the first big hitters to go over there, though. But I just think it's hilarious that it's lasted about six months of them flowing with cash at people. But everyone's saying the facilities are like pe changing rooms. [00:50:07] Speaker B: But why, though? Why spend all the money? [00:50:09] Speaker A: You got to think Saudi is a relatively young country as well. The population alone, they pay fans to come and watch it sometimes. I get this is the point. You can't throw money at anything. You can't build a culture. [00:50:24] Speaker B: It has to be taken over time. [00:50:25] Speaker A: Exactly. So I get that. I mean, Neymar might be playing there. Neymar's gone over there to doss it off. We all know it, but it's not the point. They're playing in front of 80 fans because there isn't a demand for it. [00:50:35] Speaker B: Tell them I'll go. [00:50:36] Speaker A: We could go put it out there. [00:50:38] Speaker B: We could go tell them. [00:50:39] Speaker A: Sign me right now. I've got a broken ACL and I could play better than most of the football. [00:50:45] Speaker B: I can play in defence. I'm pretty strong, though. [00:50:47] Speaker A: Ronaldo's been clapping back as well, complaining that the saudi league's better than this, but that's because he's. Half of his wage is to be bigging up the saudi league. [00:50:56] Speaker B: That's sad. [00:50:57] Speaker A: So it has been crazy. That is really sad. [00:51:00] Speaker B: I'll go. They pay us to go. I'll fly out, I'll watch a game. [00:51:03] Speaker A: I do it for free. Just prove a point. [00:51:06] Speaker B: It would not help your case, though, to look like a harder sport. It would look like an easier sport if there's 80 people. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Oh, you want to go and play basketball in Cape Verde or summit, there'd. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Be shit there as well. [00:51:17] Speaker A: It's nothing to do with the technical proficient in the sport. [00:51:19] Speaker B: True. But if the love's not there, though. [00:51:21] Speaker A: Exactly. But the level is just so, mate, Ronaldo is playing with, like, dentists and shit. Like, blokes who just. They've only in the last year, since. [00:51:31] Speaker B: Two at tricks a game. [00:51:32] Speaker A: Well, this is the thing. He's bagging a lot and everyone's going, oh, my God. I saw the most irritating TikTok the other day on football. Well, again, this is football stuff. I don't know. Who cares? But some guy was saying that Cristiano Ronaldo's comeback is the greatest comeback in sport. So let me just define this comeback of a 38 year old who had a bad six months at United because he fell out with the manager going to Saudi, which is a piece of shit, scoring loads of goals. [00:51:56] Speaker B: That's not a good. [00:51:57] Speaker A: That's it. He said that was the greatest comeback in sporting history. [00:51:59] Speaker B: But there's a billion other examples, of course. Dee dee, dee, dee dee. [00:52:07] Speaker A: What on earth? [00:52:08] Speaker B: That clip. That clip. That's the best comeback in football. [00:52:12] Speaker A: Dee dee dee. Troy Deeney. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Troy Deene. Yeah, that one. Fantastic. [00:52:19] Speaker A: Well, do you know what, on that note, so you know Forest Green. [00:52:23] Speaker B: No. [00:52:23] Speaker A: Football team. [00:52:24] Speaker B: I know forest worker. [00:52:26] Speaker A: That's a person, not football team. Troy Deeney retired recently and became a player coach for Forest Green, and he's been sacked after 27 days as manager. [00:52:34] Speaker B: Why? [00:52:34] Speaker A: Because, one, he lost six games out of six, and two, he was slagging off the players to no degree. He was like, our managers are supposed to shield their teams. They're supposed to shield their players and stuff like that. Anyway, he's coming out with, like, this player that was getting to it for Premier League club. They like a league two club, right? Getting to it to play for the prem clubs and stuff. Like he was like, he can barely kick a ball now. He was like, the guy kicks with his shins. He was like he could not get a game in non league now. That's like his star striker, for example, right? And he's been sat and he's come out and gone. I think I was used for my contacts because I've got a famous footballer, I've got a podcast and stuff like that. And I was like, no, because you said all of your players are shit and basically what do you expect me to do? I'm not Harry Potter. So anyway, that's Troy Deeney for you. [00:53:19] Speaker B: Should we just rename this to the football podcast? [00:53:21] Speaker A: Well, this is it. I didn't want to do that, but I couldn't help it. And you teased me more. Back to music stuff. Did you see Moe's death's new name? What's his new name? Like, Yasin. I've got this somewhere. [00:53:32] Speaker B: I thought that was just actually his name. [00:53:34] Speaker A: Yasin Bay. Oh, is it his actual birth name? [00:53:36] Speaker B: I thought that was his government name. [00:53:38] Speaker A: It might well be. [00:53:39] Speaker B: I didn't know that. I can't remember who it was. But a rapper came out and said they didn't like it. They didn't like that they were performing Doom even though they're friends. [00:53:46] Speaker A: They were like bros, weren't they? [00:53:48] Speaker B: But this person said they didn't like to see Doom being represented for fans because he's not toured or been out in ages. [00:53:55] Speaker A: I thought it was fucking brilliant. [00:53:56] Speaker B: I thought it was great. [00:53:57] Speaker A: Listen, I'm not being funny. [00:53:58] Speaker B: All of his music and he goes on a mass, why not go out? [00:54:00] Speaker A: It's not like MF Doom died and Moe's death's got hold of his r drive and released all of his tunes. Is it Anderson Pack? Have you seen Anderson Pack's got a tattoo or it's Bruno Mars? I think it's Anderson Patt that basically says, if I die, do not leak my hard drive. It was not meant to come out. It's like, it's a bit of a joke, but it was interesting. It's like a stamp, literally a stamp that says, like, do not leak my music if I die. That I can get that. Some people can find that disrespectful and that takes a lot of. I mean, as someone who's got a filled hard drive with stuff that people are probably never going to wear, I wouldn't want people releasing it. But then there's probably that would. I don't know. But it's not like his mates grabbed MF Doom's hard drive and released no new music. He's playing the hits in front of his fans as MF Doom. He's not like taking ownership. I actually thought it was quite a nice nod to a friend, if anything. But like the fact that fans would get to see anything like MF dooming. I mean, you know, when we went to see the, oh, you didn't come with me. When we went to see no shout. It was before we were boys. When we went to see Kanye west, my beautiful dancers of fantasy in orchestra. It was at the Ritz in Manchester and it was sick. And also when we went to see the Frank Ocean with orchestra, same people, I think, with blues kitchen. At the end of the day, if you're never going to get to see the real thing, that's pretty good. It's pretty good to go and see as a big fan. So, I mean, never mind the fact that mo's deaf, is a fantastic artist in his own right. I thought that was pretty sick to go, to go and see MFDM's music, especially in Paris. Great actor. What's that film he did with Jack Black years ago? That was the first film I ever saw him in. I forgot what it's called. [00:55:33] Speaker B: He's filmed with Jack Black. [00:55:35] Speaker A: Yeah, about like a blockbuster video store or something. [00:55:38] Speaker B: Oh, be kind, rewind. [00:55:40] Speaker A: That's the one. [00:55:40] Speaker B: I remember seeing that. I had that on dvd as well. [00:55:43] Speaker A: He was one of them that I didn't realize he's a rapper when I first saw him. Yeah, I think common as well. Common was intimate. When I was younger, he was in wanted. [00:55:49] Speaker B: James McAbee. [00:55:50] Speaker A: That was what it was. Yeah. Didn't realize he was common. [00:55:52] Speaker B: Fly with the thingy today. [00:55:54] Speaker A: Little side point. Common. I think I'm a bit not annoyed that I didn't put common in my goated list, you know? [00:55:58] Speaker B: No. [00:56:01] Speaker A: But when I did my honorable mentions, when I did my honorable mentions, common should have been in there. Just Chicago delivery alone, his delivery alone. I love commons, but Common could. Common's one of those rappers, literally, you know, when you see those videos. I think he might have signed him, actually. That's why I might have gone viral, but there was like a street improviser, like a rapper that was just like people walking past you and the green hoodie. I've seen the video unreal and common jumps up with him. But that was the best example. Common could list things in this room and I'd be like, yeah, I love that guy so much. [00:56:32] Speaker B: I didn't love him in Suicide Squad, but that wasn't his fault. [00:56:35] Speaker A: Suicide squad? [00:56:36] Speaker B: No, he's in suicide Squad, is he? No. [00:56:39] Speaker A: What the shit one? The first one. Yeah. I didn't really bother with that much. [00:56:42] Speaker B: No, don't. [00:56:43] Speaker A: No, I actually really liked the James Gun won. The second one. [00:56:46] Speaker B: The second one is amazing. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:47] Speaker B: Second one is unreal. [00:56:49] Speaker A: It's like Tarantino did a comic book film. [00:56:51] Speaker B: It's fantastic. It's so good. And the first one is just garbage. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Toilet, water, bag of shit. [00:56:58] Speaker B: Horrible film. [00:56:59] Speaker A: Did you have anything else you wanted to cover quickly, my friend? [00:57:02] Speaker B: No, I did not. [00:57:03] Speaker A: No, I didn't. Should we wrap that up then? Wrap it up. Close it out, close it out, close it out, close it out. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Bring it in and put it away. [00:57:09] Speaker A: So I hope you enjoyed us chatting. Babble a bit more. Next week we are going to be coming to you with. We're going to do top ten soundtracks, aren't we? Game soundtrack. Game soundtrack, game soundtracks. We've got your FifA street. [00:57:21] Speaker B: We're not both FIFA fans to do a FIFA. [00:57:23] Speaker A: That's true. [00:57:24] Speaker B: That's sad because yours might just be this song for FIFA seven, this song for FIFA twelve. [00:57:28] Speaker A: I do think we should do a bit of that at some point as well. Yeah, I know you're not forced, maybe even if it's summer for TikTok, but we're going to do some game soundtracks. Here's some other lists as well because we've got loads of recommendations and we're going to be doing. We've got, as we said in the last one, we're going to do some cults and conspiracies. [00:57:44] Speaker B: Cults and conspiracies. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Should we do that next week? [00:57:45] Speaker B: We'll do that next week. We'll do that next week. [00:57:47] Speaker A: Conspiracy in, conspiracy in. So if you like your conspiracy talk and all that bollocks, come and have a look. [00:57:53] Speaker B: Come on, watch us. [00:57:54] Speaker A: Anyway, thank you so much for listening. Like subscribe, follow all that stuff that they tell you to do. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Share it with your grandma. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Share it with your grandma. Put it in your family. WhatsApp chat. [00:58:01] Speaker B: Let your dog have a listen. [00:58:02] Speaker A: Yeah, put your old. Your airpods in. Into your dog's ear. Put it on repeat. Listen to these two. [00:58:07] Speaker B: Leave it on. [00:58:08] Speaker A: Oh, that's it. When you go to sleep, put it on repeat, press play. Leave it looping for the night. It's really good for us. Appreciate that. Anyway, that's it from us. Thank you very much. Good night. Bye.

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