Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Hello, and welcome to the new episode of the Philadelphia podcast. I am Sam, otherwise known as Kid Blue.
[00:00:16] Speaker B: And we got Liam, also known as Liam Maloney.
[00:00:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's his actual name. Okay, what we're going for today then.
[00:00:21] Speaker B: Liam, do you want to start? Because we've got a good few topics we're going for today. Ps, one games, top five rappers and a few bits and bobs, I think. Start with your song of the week.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. My son of the week.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: Tell me your song of the week and movie of the week. Okay, so go on, tell me.
[00:00:33] Speaker A: What's your song of the week? My song of the week is sunburned by Dominic Fike.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: I'd need to hear it.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: So, embarrassingly, I'm quite a big Dominic fike fan, as you know.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Why is that embarrassing?
[00:00:44] Speaker A: No, what's embarrassing is the fact that it turns out I had a new album out for last six months. I didn't realize.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: That's embarrassing.
[00:00:48] Speaker A: That's embarrassing.
[00:00:49] Speaker B: Yeah, that's embarrassing.
[00:00:50] Speaker A: So I've been bashing it this week. Like, it just came out. And it's mint. It's absolutely mint. I love it. And it's.
I mean, I cover Dominic fike in my sets, don't I? So like.
[00:00:59] Speaker B: You do.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: I absolutely loved it. Anyway, mint tune. It's been my head relentlessly. My movie of the week, similar burn vibe. Is Saltburn.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: Is Dominic fike in that film?
[00:01:11] Speaker A: No, it would suit it ironically.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: Yeah, but.
[00:01:13] Speaker A: So two burns. But, I mean, what can we not say about Saltburn?
[00:01:19] Speaker B: You've seen it. I just know what happens in it.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: I mean, right now, we really are splitting the culture of the people that have watched it, the people that refuse to watch it, really.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: Maybe you should give a message for the people who haven't watched it.
[00:01:29] Speaker A: Don't do it.
[00:01:30] Speaker B: There you go. Then there's your head talk for.
[00:01:32] Speaker A: I saw a TikTok that was like. I swear, this TikTok was literally saying, my family, friends, and everyone I know that I care about and trust, opinion wise, said to me, you will be a changed person after watching this film, and you can't go back.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: I've heard la.
[00:01:44] Speaker A: It's. That's just so stupid. And he watched it and was like, I can't unsee things.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: I've heard watch it with your grandparents and your parents. Get the whole family gathering together.
[00:01:52] Speaker A: I mean, I've seen let the kids.
[00:01:53] Speaker B: In and watch it.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: I've seen plenty of people watching it with the parents and just recording the reactions. That in itself is brilliant. I mean, the thing is, the reason why it's tough to describe is because I want you to watch it.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: We'll watch it together.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: There's lots of people that I can think of. I'm like, I want you to watch it. I want you to have seen it without experiencing it, because visually, it's the best thing I've ever seen. Every single frame was like. It was. I swear to God, when you watch it.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: But you were gassing up the creator last week.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: Yeah, but the creator is all like, cjans. This was all shot on, not CJ. Well, there was all that, but I mean, this is all shot on film. It's all like, just practical, but it's all just beautiful shots.
There's no fabrication at all in a movie. It's just literally like a photographer's wet dream. It's just sick in that sense. But then obviously some of the things that actually happen have scarred my brain.
These things I didn't think I was ever going to see on a screen.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: You've seen.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I was told about the bathwater scene.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Did this mean.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: I know.
[00:02:56] Speaker B: I know exactly what that is. And I saw they were selling merch. Like they were selling little glass. No, like glass drink drinks containers in the form of a bath. But that's. My motivation has gone for it, because now, in all the spoilers, it's the same thing. But listen, if you know everything that happens in a film, it's the same reason I've still not seen american psycho, because I know everything that happens. I know it's beat for beat because of TikTok.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Nice. Let me once, you know, not seen that.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: Yeah, but once you know the twist of something, once you know the twist of shut around before you watched it while you're watching it, because you know.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: The whole time that brilliant acting.
[00:03:30] Speaker B: It's a great acting. And thankfully, I didn't know when I watched it. And at the end, when you find out, you go, oh, it all makes sense now, why he doesn't have the gun and his partner has the gun.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: Well, put it this way, I hadn't seen anything from Saltburn, and I kind of kept it that way.
And obviously that did make it more enjoyable, or at least more surprising. But I definitely think you could still enjoy it without it. Okay, put it this way. What's the worst thing? I mean, if you're not going to watch it, what's the worst thing you've heard that happens?
[00:03:58] Speaker B: I know exactly what happens. I know exactly what happens.
[00:04:00] Speaker A: What did you think was the worst.
[00:04:01] Speaker B: Thing you know what? Funny enough, I saw someone said everything in the film was bad, but the worst thing was him trying to drink raw eggs. That was worse than everything get. Because now I know what is having the foot. I don't drink raw eggs. I've never done that. I'm not interested.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: I think you don't do a few of the other things that he does.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: I don't do any of those things. I don't do any of those things. Nor will I inherit a rich, fancy house. Spoiler alert.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: Well, he inherited in a very clever way, so big up to him on that.
[00:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Because he lives, like, chefing up all the family members.
[00:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. Yeah. But I'm not being funny. I can't unsee. Sorry. A grown ass man. The joker. The new joker.
[00:04:36] Speaker B: The new joker.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Raw dogging soil.
[00:04:38] Speaker B: Oh, he's a grave.
[00:04:39] Speaker A: He's literally fucking a grave.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Yeah. That's deranged behavior.
[00:04:43] Speaker A: But it's like, for like three minutes.
It is long. That's long, I've heard. But I mean, like, the scene is long and it's like this choral music going on and everyone in the room.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: Is like, maybe thingy, though. Maybe thingy to say. But I think it's. Obviously, I haven't seen it, but I think it's a little bit of a cheap trick just to put some shocking, for shocking sake. It was improvised even weirder then.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: That's what I mean.
[00:05:11] Speaker B: The director should have stopped and went, are you feeling okay? Do you need a hole?
[00:05:15] Speaker A: There was two or three scenes, and ironically, I think there were the two or three bad scenes where Barry was like, leave it running. And I think there was one scene.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: I can't remember, leave the bath water running. I'm going to drink it.
[00:05:24] Speaker A: I know whether it was the bath one or the grave scene, but he basically said, I'm going to do something that might repulse a lot of you, so leave the room and someone. There was a one scene, and I don't know which one it is, like I said, but they left the camera running and he did what he did. And like I said, there's a few things that are just so repulsive where it could be about any of them. But he literally said, I'm just going to try some of it because it's what the character would do. And it was just.
[00:05:46] Speaker B: Next film, give Barry a rom.com. Just give him somewhat normal. Let him play postman. Just give him some regular everyday life.
[00:05:53] Speaker A: Do you know what? Before this film, I rate him as an actor. I think he's. Yeah, he's very.
I mean, it does contribute to. It doesn't help the fact that DC are just balls and everything up left, right and center at the moment, but getting a new joker in at the same time as Joker two coming out with a different joker. I didn't really know why they were doing it, but put us after that.
Understand how he's going to play us. Like, bad.
[00:06:15] Speaker B: Yeah. They were like, he's perfect. They weren't coming as you. Yeah, don't even try doing anything. Be Barry.
[00:06:20] Speaker A: Literally. I mean, because I didn't know of a clue what was going on as these for the first half of the film. You're like, well, which one of them is going to be the nutter? Because they're all a bit nuts.
[00:06:29] Speaker B: They're all rich, though. They're all going to be.
[00:06:31] Speaker A: Have you seen all the clips of, like, rich people just missing the.
I mean, again, you might have seen it then, but when Jacob Elordi's character introduces Barry to the house and the whole scene of him walking through the house, the camera. I saw some things on it on TikTok, which you probably saw yourself, but all the camera was locked on Jacob's character because of the whole point. Obviously, Barry's obsessed with him. So they were looking around this sick house and just not really paying attention. And there's been loads of rich people on TikTok doing like tours of their houses thinking that's like. And it's so funny just watching people feel like you are completely missing the. Yeah, yeah.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: That is my.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: That was long winded. Sorry, what's your.
[00:07:09] Speaker B: No, I was in. I was interested here. It was interesting. Hear it? My song of the week is from the start, Leyve know Laufe or lufe because it's been pronounced a million different ways. Because I don't care how big and tough you are, you can't listen to that boss and over tune without kicking your legs under your seat.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: Right, Liam, so hit me with your movie of the week then.
[00:07:28] Speaker B: Movie of the week. Granted, this is early January and my movie of the week is from Christmas.
[00:07:33] Speaker A: So the week as we've.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: It's not established. Movie of the week, though is Santa Claus. The first one? Tim Allen. But it's more just because I've seen better films since then. We watched Renfield this week. You know, the Nicolas Cage, Nicholas Holt.
[00:07:47] Speaker A: I watched that at Cafina.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: It was fine. It was very different, I thought because I'd only watched half the trailer, the.
[00:07:52] Speaker A: Action shots were actually quite good.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: The action scenes were, well, good.
[00:07:54] Speaker A: I didn't expect them to be any good as well.
[00:07:56] Speaker B: I didn't think there was any of that. I thought it was more just a drama of him going to his therapy and chatting about. Anyway, that's not my movie. The thing is, the biggest plot hole ever, and I've seen a few people talk about this. And the biggest plot hole ever in the Santa Claus is. The whole thing is he becomes Santa Claus and then Charlie lives with his mom and Neil.
Neil. I think it is Neil. But the whole thing is that they don't believe in Santa Claus. That's the whole deal. And he's obviously turning into it. Charlie believes in Santa Claus, who's buying their presents.
Thanks for adding that in. But the whole thing is the film and all these other parents that don't believe in Santa Claus. But then the whole deal is that he makes all the presents and delivers them. And in every Christmas film in Elf. How does that make sense? Elf's dad doesn't believe in Santa. So when he wakes up and there's Christmas mornings, dirty presents under his tree.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
[00:08:53] Speaker A: I mean, that took me a minute to work out what you were saying. It doesn't make sense, though.
Yes, actually. Because guess what? No, I mean, I get what you're saying.
[00:09:02] Speaker B: You get what I'm saying?
[00:09:03] Speaker A: Because in that universe, they don't believe in Santa Claus. But the present still turn. The present's still there, so who the fuck's doing it?
[00:09:08] Speaker B: But in other Christmas films, they just gloss over it. But the whole thing in Santa Claus, the first one is that the first half, it's him turning into Santa. Charlie saying to Neil and his stepdad, my dad is Santa Claus. And they're going, he's not real. Grow up. But then at Christmas time, there's bare toys delivered by.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: You'd believe he's real if fucking your house just turned up with loads of presents one morning.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So I just thought that was a really dumb plot. You know, we'll do a whole.
[00:09:34] Speaker A: But that's why it's your best film of the week. That's why the film. I didn't say you enjoyed most this week.
[00:09:38] Speaker B: I didn't say it's even my best film. I just said it's the film of the week. Only because I need to put that across. But we'll do a whole episode on plot holes because know I've got a massive Harry Potter one as well.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: That's true. A massive Harry Potter. It's not very good. That's a big plot hole for me.
[00:09:53] Speaker B: I'm not going to listen to that. I'm going to pretend you didn't speak then. Right? Do you want to go into our. What do you want to chat?
[00:09:58] Speaker A: What do you want to chat? Right, well, what, you had some surprises for me, you said, so I'm curious to hear about them.
[00:10:03] Speaker B: You know what, speaking of, we'll get to this then, because the fact that we're talking about movies already and the state and we mentioned the last two weeks, the last two episodes, how disarray the whole movie thing is right now in Hollywood and how no one takes any chances because they don't make any money and everything that's made is an.
[00:10:21] Speaker A: Existing ip repeating it.
[00:10:22] Speaker B: I want to run through the biggest films this year. Every single one of them is a sequel of some sort. Listen to this, listen to this. Right? The first one, Godzilla v. King Kong. The next one, Godzilla V. Kong.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Give me another one.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Another one. Guess though, legitimately, give me a guess how many Godzilla movies you think there are, including the japanese ones.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: All right. All of them say. Because even including this actual series, all of them.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: Anything that we like.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: Godzilla five or something, aren't we? But I think so. Wait, hang on, let me think.
[00:10:50] Speaker B: Give me an educated guess how many Godzilla films you think.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Okay, so there's the Matthew Broderick one.
That's actually a good film, right?
Is this Godzilla or Kong? Like both. Godzilla, just Godzilla.
[00:11:01] Speaker B: Godzilla specifically. Not King Kong.
[00:11:03] Speaker A: I'm going to guess there's at least two or three old school japanese ones because I've seen plenty of them.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: You going with that?
[00:11:09] Speaker A: No, they're the old ones.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: All right, go on.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: So three Matthew Broderick one.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Right.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: And then there's been four, I think of the new ones going to go eight.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: You're not even close. Added a 30 to it. There's 38 Godzilla films and they're about to roll out. 39 la it. Although I heard the new one, the Godzilla minus one is actually really good. And they just did a tv show.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: The Godzilla tv show?
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Yeah, with Kurt Russell and Wyatt Russell. They're playing the same character. It's a big fuck off lizard.
[00:11:41] Speaker A: Where have you got 40 films worth?
[00:11:43] Speaker B: Well, they got 40 films worth one tv show. It's that japanese people love him, so.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: He'S their jesus are a good, like 30 of them. Just like pre 90s.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: Like 99% of list are Japan and they're like from the.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: So basically anyone with a camera just thinks we want to make some it good. I'll tell you what's not been done before.
[00:12:01] Speaker B: Do you know what I think it's like? You know how Mickey Mouse, like Steamboat Willie's now like an, like an open ip and we can use it. So is Peter Pan. I think Pinocchio is coming up as well. But that's what mean they've already done the film, but they just could not announce it until the. So like January 1. By the way, we did a film. You can love it. So if they said before and it leaked, Disney would have come and slapped.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: A cease that you're suggesting that there's 38 unreleased godzilla?
[00:12:24] Speaker B: There might be more godzilla.
[00:12:26] Speaker A: This is the year of Godzilla.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: This is the year of Godzilla. Anyway, run through the rest of the list. We're just going to. Ratle is off. Right?
[00:12:30] Speaker A: Right. I actually had this conversation with lils the other day and I was like, so I'm glad you're saying this because there's some.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: It's ridiculous. So I'm going to ratle them off. Deadpool three. Spiderverse three. Kung fu vander four. Dune two.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: Did you say kung poo thunder?
[00:12:44] Speaker B: Kung fu panda four. Dune two. Joker two. Sonic three. Venom free. Love it, don't bother. The karate kid again remake.
[00:12:53] Speaker A: Oh, is that the one with Jackie.
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Ralph Machio and Jackie Chan? Ghostbusters two, which is technically Ghostbusters five because the original two, the new Paul Rudd two, and then the 2016 all female one, which I actually really quite liked. But that's just me. Kingdom of the planet the apes. You want to guess how many of those they got? Because we did this last week. We lightly touched it and you were close and you were right.
[00:13:14] Speaker A: Was it nine?
[00:13:15] Speaker B: It is nine. It's tent is coming out.
Despicable me four. Why despicable me four? You're not eleven. Not for you. Yeah, but I didn't know they made that many either. I don't know.
[00:13:27] Speaker A: They even did a minions film separately.
[00:13:29] Speaker B: I don't know. They're going to follow Joseph Coney this time.
[00:13:31] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: Despicable me for Beetlejuice.
[00:13:35] Speaker A: You need to realize how complex that joke was of Joseph Coney has a child army and these minions.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: I'm glad you got it.
[00:13:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm glad you got what you meant.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: I did, and I'm really glad it didn't go over your head. Bad boys four. Inside out two. Gladiator two.
That's like 15 sequel movies alone and they're all the biggest films of this year.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: I mean, the funny thing is 9% of them. I could literally. I won't give a fuck.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: Dash them. Venom two, Venom free. Leave it.
[00:14:04] Speaker A: Venom one and two, leave it.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: I'm not interested at all.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: Joking. I am actually buzing for.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Yeah, me too.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: And I hope Lady Gaga is good. I mean, I'm sure she'll be good.
[00:14:11] Speaker B: She's got an Oscar.
[00:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. But I'm buzzing for Deadpool free.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Obviously, we covered this in the last.
[00:14:18] Speaker A: I still think Deadpool one and two are, like, two of the most. I'm going to even say underrated, because even though they've broke a lot of records box office wise, I still think they're underrated as comic book films and just, like, actual comedies in general.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: 100% correct. Do you want to know a fact about that? That when it one came out, the first, it was just before, and it became the highest grossing r rated movie ever, and then Deadpool came out literally.
[00:14:40] Speaker A: Right after it, and then it broke that.
[00:14:42] Speaker B: And I think it's still.
I think it's Joker now. I think Joker was because it was wildly profitable because the budget was cheaper and it was an r rated movie and it made more money, which is unreal. But on this as well. The Simpsons movie, too.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: What?
[00:14:58] Speaker B: And we spoke about this joke. No, it's legit. I googled it. And, you know, I'm obviously a diehard.
[00:15:03] Speaker A: Simpsons fan, especially at the moment.
[00:15:05] Speaker B: Especially at the moment, because I've watched season 35, six, wherever the latest one is, backwards, and I'm at 19, which is the wrong way to do it.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: But still 400 episodes.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I'm still a good couple hundred still to go, obviously, as well, but need to touch on. The show gets a bit wild. The earlier back you go.
[00:15:24] Speaker A: That was confusing. The show gets a bit wild.
[00:15:27] Speaker B: The show was a bit wild. Every time I start a new season, I google it and go, oh, this aired in 2007 and you feel it straight away. You feel it straight away. One episode, Nelson called three people gay as an insult.
I don't want to say the word, but I'm going to bleep it anyway, so it doesn't matter. Homer called Bart in another one. Oh, no, it wasn't Bart. It was someone. Oh. It was Revlon Lovejoy. And it was. Someone was meant to throw a ball. He called the man of God, and I think he was meant to throw a ball or catch a Ball, but he didn't. And Homer goes, you're a.
[00:16:01] Speaker A: That was it.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: That was it.
[00:16:02] Speaker A: Dropped a ball.
[00:16:04] Speaker B: There's a whole episode of the Simpsons where Bart meets a friend who's Muslim. And the whole time Homer's super suspicious that both his parents are terrorists. It's awful the whole time.
[00:16:16] Speaker A: What year is that?
[00:16:16] Speaker B: 2008. Late enough where you're thinking, that seems a bit like in the. In 1992 or whatever, when the show came out even then. But in 2008. And the whole time, home is like, creeping, looking through the window of Bart's mate's yard and thinking, these guys are terrorists.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: I know the joke is that Homer's the idiot there, but still, it doesn't play well. You're risking it there.
[00:16:38] Speaker B: But the thing is, I've still got 19 seasons to go. It's getting worse as you're going along, and I've seen this before. The inconsistency in Homer's intelligence is up and down.
[00:16:48] Speaker A: I'm surprised you say that, because, I mean, I used to bash the Simpsons, but obviously I'm watching ages, but I just thought he was always.
[00:16:54] Speaker B: He is always an idiot.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: Going to say spaz? Because you've said spaz.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: I'm going to bleep it every time anyway, so no one knows. Anyway, the whole thing is that he is an idiot. But then there's a load of plot holes in the show. There's so many. Because when they obviously establish something and they go back and then later on you go, but we thought that they've never done this or that. Like, Flanders has got a big scar under his mustache, and that was a whole episode in a later season. But then there's loads of times where his mustache gets burnt off or he's got a prop one for some reason, and there's no scar. So there's loads of those who are like, people say, oh, I've never been to this place. And then eleven years earlier, obviously, I know it's a bit ridiculous. And then they obviously go there.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: Only you would get, like, funny with the Simpsons.
[00:17:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm fuming every time I watch it. After pausing, continuity errors, shout myself in the mirror.
[00:17:41] Speaker A: You're telling me planters doesn't have a.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: Scar in his lip? Exactly that. But that was my point on the movies. I had to get out because I was just passionate about.
Because we were going to talk the Marvel movies for this year, there's only one, and it's just Deadpool.
[00:17:55] Speaker A: Yeah. So, I mean, the thing is, as well, it's kind of perfect timing for this because I was on a long distance journey in the car yesterday with Lil's, and I think it was actually tactical of her to keep me interested, but she basically just let me explain the whole X Men to her. So I went fully into it. And then the X Men, the Fox verse. Yeah, okay. And just the fact that it was not part of the MCU and then they were like, the back end of the X Men films got really shit because they were trying to compete with the MCU and now they're trying to bring them in. And we mean, even like thinking, is it Kelsey Grammar being Kelsey grammar? Yeah. Was in the Marvel's post credit scene. And obviously with Stewart, like, we think they're going to go for the old Fox verse like characters they should. Actors. So I was just like, blabbering on to those.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: But have you watched with all the X Men movies yet?
[00:18:40] Speaker A: You went, this is the thing. We hadn't, and I wasn't even going to bother. But now it's all coming in. We watched X Men one last night and I got to say, oh, my God, the CGI. Yeah, I think it's from the year 2000.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: It is from 2000.
[00:18:55] Speaker A: Now, I've got to say, when I looked at 2000, I was like, oh, it's not that bad. And then I thought, well, no, hang on, CGI was. It was bad. But some of the things you are seeing in that film is garbage, I.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Think, because also that was before Spiderman came out. They were being worked on the same time, so studios didn't want to back it and put bare money behind it because they think this isn't going to make a lot of money back. So it's obviously very cheap CGI looking. Also, only because I remember it from that Hugh Jackman not in great shape in that film. He's a regular bloke.
[00:19:25] Speaker A: Well, this is what?
[00:19:25] Speaker B: He's just a regular dude.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: In the conversation I was having with Lil, she was like, so she said, oh, doesn't Hugh Jackman have Cancer? And I was like, yeah, well, he kind of lives with that skin cancer time anyway. So I was like, yeah, that's one of the reasons he couldn't play Wolverine anymore, because he doesn't drink water for 48 hours before a topless scene and all that stuff. So he's like veiny as hell and it was just getting unhealthy for him. So anyway, I'd said all that. So then there was a scene in X Men, one where he's got his kit off and she's going, not Jacob.
[00:19:52] Speaker B: Barry Keegan. Barry Keegan, yeah, carry on.
[00:19:53] Speaker A: And she's like, is he that shredded? And I was like, he looks rubbish there. That is not. That is not Wolverine.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: He's in the most bang. Average Sunday league footballer shape.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: Yeah. So I was well pissed off. That was what she thought was big because I was like, wait till you get to like Logan or he's on the juice. Yeah, he's shredded.
[00:20:10] Speaker B: He's on the juice.
[00:20:11] Speaker A: Exactly. So we did watch X Men one and it was like, the story was good, but it was a bag of shit. Yeah, it was a bag of shit. But then I even showed her the trailer for X Men two and I forgot, like, that looks ten times better.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. And save a tooth. Looks like an old lady because he's got, like, the weird long hair in that. It's not Schreiber who does a great.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: Save it again.
He's a massive moron, though, in. He like saber, too, in that first film.
Anyway, he's an idiot.
[00:20:35] Speaker B: What's your favorite X Men film? There's only one. Correct. The best one. There's a clear defined.
[00:20:41] Speaker A: I think there's two answers.
[00:20:42] Speaker B: I know what you're going to say.
[00:20:42] Speaker A: It's the best one and my favorite.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: I know what you're going to say.
[00:20:45] Speaker A: Favorite X Men, origins, Wolverine.
[00:20:46] Speaker B: That was not what I thought, but carry on.
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Really?
[00:20:48] Speaker B: No, it wasn't. I think it's over hated as well. It was only because at the time, because people didn't know Deadpool was come, but now you know that they messed it up when we got it. Yeah, that's what people are mad about.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: I mean, at least it's still Ryan Reynolds. Yeah, but I mean, that's by far my favorite. But I do understand this bits where it's a bit cheesy and all that stuff. The best one, I'm going to say either last and third one or days of future pass.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: It's days of future pass for sure.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: But I haven't seen days of future pass in ages, so I'm kind of excited to watch.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: I think 100% days of Future Pass is the strongest one because especially that was the first one with the old and the new since he merged them together. Because Apocalypse toilet water, the Phoenix. What was it called? The latest one.
[00:21:24] Speaker A: And I couldn't believe that came out. 2019. Why are Fox even trying at that point?
[00:21:29] Speaker B: There's one good scene.
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Same year's endgame.
[00:21:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Who's bringing out dark Phoenix?
[00:21:33] Speaker B: It's a bad idea. But that's toilet water as well.
[00:21:36] Speaker A: Yeah, good point. So wait, what I'm saying days of.
[00:21:40] Speaker B: Each pass is the best one. Clear cut. Because most of it's set in the 70s as well. And obviously sending Logan back, there's a mix of the old Fox and the newer ones, and I think they all just fit together so nicely.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: I'm excited to watch. I mean, to be fair, I used to love the early X Men films when I was growing up, which is why I'll always stand by as, you know, like, Wolverine and Spiderman are like my childhood superheroes, but I hadn't watched them in ages. And I mean, like I said, I think I watched Apocalypse when it came out. I'm not bothered. I've not even watched that Phoenix. I just gave up because they were just ruining it. But after watching X Men one, and I said to those same reason why we're going back to watch the old Spidermans with her as well, because without spoiling it for the fact that they're a spoiler alert, coming back and all that shit, obviously now, Hugh Jackman being in Wolverine, being in Deborah free, I was like, I need her to go to the cinema when I do and watch that and be like, oh my God, I wanted to get it. So I am excited to watch them all, but I am going to not even bother with Apocalypse and don't bother. Is it Apocalypse now? Okay, I keep saying apocalypse.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: No, just apocalypse. It's just X Men apocalypse.
[00:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah. By the way, it's X Men. Shite.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: Thanos is based off X Men apocalypse. He came first. That's why they look semi similar. But his powers may be the same level, but the costume garbage. Oscar Isaac's a good actor. He's a great actor.
[00:22:55] Speaker A: Well, Marvel have had him three times.
[00:22:57] Speaker B: He's been used more than anyone else at this point for different stuff.
[00:23:00] Speaker A: But it is shit.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: He flopped it there. And when you finally get to Spiderverse, you get to the second where he plays the, what's he called? Spiderman 2099. And he's so good in that role.
Literally. We watched it last week.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:23:15] Speaker B: I would watch again because by the time you get to it, I'd want to watch it again just to see.
[00:23:19] Speaker A: I was trying to decide which ones to skip because when she ran through all of the Infinity saga films, we didn't really skip much. But I think Spiderman three, Tod Maguire. Spiderman three.
[00:23:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:23:31] Speaker A: You don't skip that.
It's all right. I don't really love it.
[00:23:37] Speaker B: It's more what was in there. It was more them being in there. It's a film. I agree. It's not amazing.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: The villain in it or the villains in it, whatever, but you can't skip that. But Andrew Garfield one's like, I just wanted to. I don't know, I just wanted to get it when no way home comes back around. I wanted to get him off. But anyway, yeah, on the other two.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: We were wrong, actually, but we're not even chatting about it because they don't deserve the free press from whoever, many people seeing it. That venom free is also coming out, but love it. I'm not interested either, even though I say that, though. But there's so many rumors that Garfield's going to be in it.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: He's not, though, is he? He's just not.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: But he might honestly is.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: I would love it if he is.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: Of course. He's my favorite, so. Shit.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: And I just don't trust Sony with anything anymore.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: Yeah, but Sony makes Spider verse, though. But that's the thing that apparently, the thing is that they always make great animated movies that get oscars and then the live action, they just don't know how to make a great movie.
[00:24:29] Speaker A: I mean, all the action and the CGI is good. It's just toilet water writing, which is the opposite.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: But I'm sick of Antihero stories anyway. Just keep villains, villains.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: This is what's irritating. It's not like Deadpool, I think, is an anti hero.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: He's an anti hero hero.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Yeah, because he's really a hero.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: An anti hero.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: Venom is just a villain.
[00:24:48] Speaker B: He's just a villain.
[00:24:48] Speaker A: Stop trying to make him like a good guy.
[00:24:50] Speaker B: The same thing. This on the list. But I think this is coming out this year and I've missed it. It's craven the hunter. You know that. Aaron Taylor Johnson, another. He's a villain.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: Do you know how many times I hoped that was a prank, though?
[00:24:58] Speaker B: But the thing is, he's called craving a hunter. The whole point is he hunts animals in the trailer. He's protecting animals. So straight away you've gone, all that law that he's about, he's just against it. It's having a movie called Captain Vegan man. But he's not a vegan.
[00:25:14] Speaker A: Captain vegan man eats meat.
[00:25:15] Speaker B: Eats meat. Yeah, he's against everything. So straight away, 1 second, the trailer, you've said to everyone who knows who this character is, by the way, you know that character you like, we ain't doing it. We're doing something.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: I mean, I also don't understand why it's Johnson. Like, I get, you know, he's a good fit. Yeah, but younger Jason. Yeah. But Sony are trying to combine a little bit with the MCU. And I know they want to do the whole spider verse thing when bring Tom Holland into it stuff. But if you're going to half combine, you can't have flash.
[00:25:43] Speaker B: Flash is my DC, though.
[00:25:45] Speaker A: You know what I mean?
[00:25:45] Speaker B: I get what you're saying. You can't have, like, oh, you get a quick silver. Yeah, I get what we're saying.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: I don't know, but I'm just being pinickety panickety there. Yeah.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: The only other one that's coming out the show is obviously the X Men 97, then Marvel's echo, which is coming out as of whenever this is out. It's already been out.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I was going to say any.
[00:26:03] Speaker B: Day now, which I'm excited for only because, obviously, daredevil's back. And even though Matt Murdoch said you're not getting Netflix Daredevil, so just really expectations in a bit. But you are going to be getting a six minute, one shot fight between him and Echo.
I can't say call her Echo. I don't remember what her name is, that character. And obviously the whole thing is. How were they chatting? He's blind, she's deaf. Are they just both reading Braille?
[00:26:32] Speaker A: No one does the fight.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: She can't read Braille. She can see. Yeah, obviously they're.
They both assume the other person's a villain. They're just scrapping. But I don't know how they're going to get over an obstacle that is so big. It made sense when she was showing up in Hawkeye because you've got all these other characters where it bounced off. And then in Daredevil, he's got foggy.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: And a little deafening as well. So I don't know what they're doing. I mean, I'll be honest, when they announced it was coming, I was like, oh, my God, just give it up. But that was when we were still just kind of pissed that they were just throwing loads at us. I actually appreciate the fact that they've turned around and gone, like, we hear you, we're just pumping out too much garbage.
[00:27:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: What is it? I mean, obviously, apart from X Men 97, we've got one series, xmen 97.
[00:27:15] Speaker B: Echo, I think, because the Spiderman, they changed the title recently, it's the animated show, and they've changed it to. They've changed the name of the show and they've postponed it, I think, to the very end of this year. But that's been in talks for.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: I mean, I barely even count them. I mean, just like, for MCU stuff to go from the volume of what they've been pumping out to just basically.
[00:27:37] Speaker B: I think it was it last year or the year before, and they had like, four films in like, five series.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: It was just crazy.
[00:27:44] Speaker B: It was too much.
[00:27:45] Speaker A: It was crazy.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: I don't think the average fan has seen everything. I've seen everything because I'm the same.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: I've watched the shit ones.
[00:27:52] Speaker B: I've watched all.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: Every time. I've just give them a little bit of hope and they've just been a bit.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: Every shehulk episode, I'm like, but the next one's going to be really good.
[00:28:00] Speaker A: And I watched the whole thing thinking, daredevil's gonna turn off, make up for it all. They fucking ruined him. But anyway, yeah, let's not get into that. But after watching the last trailer of Echo, I do think Kingpin's gonna drag it. I think he's gonna be pretty good.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: He will be. I think Vincent D'Onofrio, if I pronounced that correctly, because obviously, a part of actually being a very good actor, he's well aware because he's been playing the character for years now. He knows the law enough and knows how important fans take it where he doesn't. I don't think he wants to mess the character about at all. And even though I didn't love him in Hawkeye because obviously he had the giant, like, colorful hawaiian shirt, but I know they just kind of pay homage to the comic where he does apparently wear that ridiculous outfit. It's on the screen right now, but just keep it a little. Just make him a tough street level. He said he wants to be the thanos of the street level of something like that.
[00:28:49] Speaker A: But that's another reason why Kingpin's going to be fixed from the Hawkeye version, because they want the next Tom Holland spiderman film to just be, like, street level fighting. I mean, realistically, how is Tom Holland Spiderman going to go from, like, fighting thanos to fucking street Groot?
[00:29:06] Speaker B: Yeah, why is he fighting Groot?
[00:29:08] Speaker A: I meant Groot.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: Me, Groot. Groot.
In despicable me. Four, obviously.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the collab. We weren't. That's the multiverse. We weren't waiting.
[00:29:17] Speaker B: That's the one we want. It's the despicable me. Both of those will be in Fortnite before it happens on screen. She has every single ip. You'll find kid blue in Fortnite before you find anything else because every man and his dog's getting put in Fortnite.
[00:29:31] Speaker A: But, yeah, bag of shit, really. I'm saying I'm excited for it. Just because it's the only thing we're going to get series wise. But I just hope it's good.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: Speaking of anything that we might get, we have to speak only because I sent you the snippets this morning. The Frank Ocean leaks. Every year we say this. Yeah, Ruby face. Every year we say this, but I really do think this would be the one. And after googling going after it, I saw Kanye posted in 2020, said, this is the year I'm going, going to make Frank put out an album. It was something along the lines of, this is, yeah, I'm going to do it. And then obviously now we know that, obviously after his little brother died and he had an album, we know the name of it, we know a lot of what the tracks were called and we even know when it was going to come out. But it was around that time, then he obviously just said, know it. And I feel like it's a fair wait time from 2017 to 20. It was 2017, wasn't it? That thing came out. Blonde came out. Three years is a very fair time.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: I can't remember if it's dam or Blonde. You always say came out when you had two full, healthy lungs.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: It was blonde.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: Yeah, it was blonde.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: So it seems like fair. But I think three years later, and then people have heard, like, the white Ferrari, there's a different version that he did at Coachella that I've now heard the full version of. Very similar, but a little different. And loads of people saying, this is the version I heard. And I hope that he's going to have a remix version on his new album.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: This is the year ago as well, isn't it?
[00:30:52] Speaker B: Jimmy skeptic and obviously DHL and loads of the singles that he put out after Blonde were going to be the singles or title tracks of this album.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: In my room, I actually think is.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: You mentioned in my room. It's been one of your favorites.
[00:31:03] Speaker A: I actually think it's one of my favorites, yeah. I mean, there was all the stuff as well. Like, did you see in the album, in each single cover of DHL and in my room, there was the little icons in that one I did, and they were all going to be leading up to the album then. It all just.
[00:31:14] Speaker B: So it was obviously that the rules.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: For liking them, obviously.
[00:31:17] Speaker B: So we have to give him a bit of. A bit of. Give him a bit of time. But we already talked about this last week and said he's at his time's up.
[00:31:26] Speaker A: You know me, I listened to all the leaks. I've got the whole yandy album on my phone and I've had it for years. The second Donda came out and Donda two, I had them all. But this year, well not this week. The last few months I've been like all the vultures leaks for Kanye. I've been trying to miss them because.
[00:31:45] Speaker B: I'm like, I've avoid them as well.
[00:31:47] Speaker A: I fall in love with some cool version of Summit. Never see again and never see it again. Never see it again.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: He might be. Of any active artist, he may be the artist with the most locked in his vault 100%. His hard drive is booming. He's got a terabyte of unreleased albums. He could probably release an unreleased Kendrick album with him. He said he's got 200.
They think about 200, like sample, like half finished tracks with him and Kendrick. Realistically, Kanye could put out an album a week from now till he dies.
[00:32:16] Speaker A: Fucking don't.
[00:32:17] Speaker B: And he would just. And he dies in his eighty s and he could just put out an album every week, which is really something he probably would do.
[00:32:23] Speaker A: Makes me so sad speaking on this.
[00:32:24] Speaker B: Because we want to talk about artists obviously, that are releasing this year that we're looking forward to. The only other one is Kid Cuddy's 9th album, insomnia. Insomnia. Insomnia.
I'm really close to it. Over 40 tracks, which really pulls my interest.
I don't know. He saw Chris Brown do 45 tracks and went, I'm feeling that. I'm feeling it. But he's doing a 40 track.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: How many songs into Chris Brown's album did he get before he was like, this is the future.
[00:32:52] Speaker B: You know how many songs I got in before I turned it off?
[00:32:54] Speaker A: No, on zero.
[00:32:56] Speaker B: Didn't start.
I think on my favorite ice, I wouldn't be interested in 40 tracks. No, I really wouldn't. It's too much.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: I mean, we said donda's 24 tracks was too much. And I actually love that album. Yeah, I'm not listening to that.
[00:33:09] Speaker B: 20 tracks deluxe maximum.
[00:33:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Four bonus tracks tops. Yeah, no, hate it anyway. I mean, Drake's probably going to drop some it because the guy doesn't know how to keep quiet.
[00:33:20] Speaker B: Yeah, he is. Definitely is.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: I mean, I'm trying to think who else now, really? Because I know there's loads of other.
[00:33:26] Speaker B: People, but people I'm not too caring about, like Lil Nas X dropping, not bothered. Dua Lipa's dropping not bothered. Ariana Grande's dropping not bothered.
Loads of smaller artists, not asked. It'll just be a case of if I hear a song and I like it, then I'll listen to it. But otherwise, no.
[00:33:43] Speaker A: I mean, even, like, Brockhampton have officially dipped now.
[00:33:47] Speaker B: Pause. Do you know the story of how they got together?
[00:33:50] Speaker A: No.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: Great. I'm glad you said. I would have told you anyway, for the people listening. They got together on a thread or some website that was devoted to Kanye. Now it's triggering your memory.
It was like, obviously, a web page that was just devoted to people talking about him. And one guy posted saying, does anyone want to join a band? And obviously and every other member, because I've always wondered, I was like, none of you look like you should be friends.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: They're all the most mixed in it.
[00:34:13] Speaker B: Age group, ethnicity. It's the most mixed bag of characters. And someone just put in, does anyone want to join a band? And obviously, like, I don't remember how many people in, like, 1112, whatever said, I'll join it. And they started just like that.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: Make it a film. Make it now.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: It's pretty good.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: Can you imagine?
[00:34:29] Speaker B: Yeah, but they ain't got the pool for that, though.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Who gives a fuck?
[00:34:32] Speaker B: Speaking of this, everything you're saying today has been the nicest segue to things I've wanted to mention.
Do you know that Compton and Oldham have the almost identical population?
No offense to, obviously, my wife from Oldham. That's the best thing to come out of Oldham. That's the best thing to come out of Oldham.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: Second best thing to come.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: That sounds like an insult, but I'm being dead serious. That is the best thing to come out of Oldham. But when you compare it to Compton and you have Anthony Anderson, Dr. Dre, easy, ice Cube, Kendrick, the game, Demar.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: De Rosen, whereas Oldham's got, like, Liam Maloney.
[00:35:04] Speaker B: No, I'm not from Oldham, though, so I don't count.
[00:35:06] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:35:07] Speaker B: As my wife. And I cannot think of a single person.
I can't think of anyone big who's come out of.
[00:35:14] Speaker A: Can't think of anyone good people, never mind us.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: Yeah. They both got like 95k in population.
[00:35:21] Speaker A: That's my new, like, favorite random fact.
[00:35:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Should you tell people anytime anything comes up, do you know older has the same amount of. Same amount of people?
[00:35:27] Speaker A: And if any should be like, sister villages.
[00:35:29] Speaker B: And it's not even like one has got more resources than another.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: They're both shitholes.
[00:35:35] Speaker B: They're both struggling.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: They're both.
[00:35:37] Speaker B: But I said, she's the best thing.
[00:35:39] Speaker A: To come out fucking. She knows him coming back now.
[00:35:41] Speaker B: That sound like an interval. I was being dead serious.
[00:35:44] Speaker A: He said, statistic was the best thing to come out of Oldham, not the woman.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: I was being dead serious when I said that's the best thing to come out of Oldham. It sounded like an insult.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: So on this segment today, we're going to talk about our top five hip hop artists. I'm saying it as hip hop artists because that's how. That's the best way.
[00:36:05] Speaker B: Dead or alive.
[00:36:05] Speaker A: Dead or alive, yeah.
Top five rappers. Really?
I think mine's going to be one that people disagree with, but I don't think there's any scandals in there. And I feel like I could probably guess yours anyway.
[00:36:18] Speaker B: You could probably guess mine, I think.
[00:36:19] Speaker A: Let's go for yours first.
[00:36:20] Speaker B: I'll do mine first.
[00:36:21] Speaker A: Hit me.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: So this is not who's the best, this is your top five. So top five can't be wrong. It's not who you think is the best. Because my list would be slightly different, but not by much. For a very quick introduction to each one and why they're on there as well. In no particular order, my top one is Nas, because, as I've always said, and you knew he was going to be on be better than Jay Z. I'm not taking anything on it. And before Kendrick, he's the goat, I'm not bothered. But my thing is, and I've always said, if aliens came down and said, what is the purest example of hip hop you've got? And we had all these albums, we're giving him nasal Mike. Yeah, that's the best one we can give him as a purebred example. And he wrote it when he was 17, released when he was 20. I said, think about the 17 year olds in your life right now, and then think about the kind of music you think they could legitimately put out. And also, it's got one of my number twos in the album. So we'll go into Qtip from tribe called Clay.
[00:37:21] Speaker A: Number two.
[00:37:23] Speaker B: These are in order.
[00:37:24] Speaker A: I couldn't order them.
[00:37:25] Speaker B: I couldn't order them to be said.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: I didn't want to order them. I only ordered them for you.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: Oh, no.
Pause this podcast right now and I'll go sit in a corner for 30 minutes. But Qtip is my number two because, as you know, I'm a diehard tribe called Quest Fan. And I think because lots of other groups, especially like Wutang, get all the. And NWA get all the credit because they're just much more famous groups, I don't think the average fan of hip hop would be able to name all the members of Tribe Called Quest but they can name a lot of Wu Tang members.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: Plus just the visual of the visuals, everything.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: The culture. I get, obviously, like, because they're from the same area, because they're both from East Coast New York and at a similar time, obviously, they were a little bit earlier. I get that they kind of get swept under the rug, but anyone who really legitimately likes old school hip hop is a big fan. So I could put Tribe called Quest and put him in five dog, but I'm just putting Q tip in there.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:38:19] Speaker B: My third one, MF the supervillain, MF doom. Daniel Dumalay.
[00:38:23] Speaker A: You're looking at my list.
[00:38:24] Speaker B: No, I know you'd be on there, though. That's the only person that's brown bread on my list.
He's literally behind you. And you know I've been a diode fan. Yes. Bomb. You know I've been a diode fan before because I noticed as soon as he dies, any artist dies. Everyone's a big. Everyone's been a fan for years. That's how it always is. Someone dies, and all of a sudden everyone's an expert. So I'm gatekeeping. I've been a fan since ten years plus.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: Do you remember my MF doom story, though? Because I felt like the biggest fraud on planet Earth when it came to being an MFD fan.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Did you think he was someone else?
[00:38:58] Speaker A: No, I liked him, and I knew, like, the big hit, but I started bashing him in December.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: He died, right, in October. I remember.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: New.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Did we.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: Yeah, he died in December. Sorry. In December, I started bashing just as you thought.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: I've picked up a really cool, somewhat underground artist. Then he dies, and then he goes, evan's thinking, you're just jumping on the train.
[00:39:20] Speaker A: I wasn't that blind, I promise you. But I was properly bashing him. I was like, yeah, I get it now. I get it now. And I even ordered the ring, the MFM ring, which I've still got, and I'm not joking. The day after it turned up, the announcement died. And I was like.
I also even felt embarrassed because I was like, well, I can't say a fucking word about him now.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: You can't go, I've been listening to this guy for months, though.
[00:39:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I've been listening to this guy for days.
[00:39:45] Speaker B: I've loved this guy for 72 hours max.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: Like, two or three of his albums have been my favorite albums for, like, hours. Right?
[00:39:51] Speaker B: You know what the mad thing is? If you ordered that ring three days later, it would have been maybe double the price and maybe wouldn't have arrived. But my next one is Kendrick, obviously someone we've both seen insert clip.
[00:40:03] Speaker A: It's scandalous that he's for.
[00:40:04] Speaker B: I've inserted clip.
Obviously he is the Goat. Now, I don't like claiming someone to be the goat before they've finished their career. And the only person I'll allow that is if they're deep enough into their career or they're at the tail end. Obviously, you might say Ronaldo is the goat or whatever, because he's at the end of his career. Or Messi. But. Or Lebron is the goat, even though he's not finished playing because they've done so much where you're like, yeah, that's enough. Whatever they do from now is just a continuation of their greatness. But Kendrick's obviously been my day one. And I remember where I was the first time I heard it was when swimming pools came out when I was in college. So it's like 2013. And obviously since then it's only eleven.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Years, but I feel like I've been listening the light. I know he was already pretty. He had like some respect in the game before the lights ago kid Mad City came out.
[00:40:56] Speaker B: No, but that was what put him on the map.
[00:40:58] Speaker A: Goat in ten years, he's become a.
[00:40:59] Speaker B: Goat in ten years.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: He's probably less because, I mean, even before Mr. Rollins big step and some people were like, giving him the goat standard, so that was like seven, eight.
[00:41:06] Speaker B: He's been the goat. And I could honestly argue it till the cows come home. You can put some of the names. I can't remember if it was big boy or sway or someone, but they said that for the goat conversation station, there's no right answers, but there's plenty of wrong answers.
[00:41:18] Speaker A: Oh, hell yeah.
[00:41:19] Speaker B: And that's a great quote, do you know what I mean? So you can say all these different names and that's the right answer. That's the right answer. Lil pump. That's the wrong answer. Do you know what I mean? But that's my fourth and my last one is Eminem because, you know, I'm a big Eminem fan. And I think anyone now who's Gen Z or any of that age who's just listening to the most recent on their Spotify, who hasn't because I've been listening to him longer than anyone else on that list, apart from tribe called Quest because I was playing skate and destroyed PS one, which we'll get into.
And they had award tour and a few other songs on there on that game but been listed Eminem the longest. And I think back when we've all.
[00:41:57] Speaker A: Been like ten, thinking we were like, gangster list.
[00:41:59] Speaker B: Obviously.
[00:41:59] Speaker A: Of course, I didn't do that with anyone else, but when you've got that.
[00:42:03] Speaker B: Many albums and there's enough people that are also people in the game who verify went, no, that guy's better than me. And I think also with his music, I like because I listened to infinite recently, which is like his first single on his first album from like, 1995 before I was born, and obviously sounds like he's 16 there. And you know how on super old artists, like, hip hop artists, you can hear. I know you've come from, you've been working in a kitchen all day, and then you've come to do this. Like, you can hear how young and.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: How, like, grease on his lips, you can hear it.
[00:42:35] Speaker B: You know what I mean? You can hear how garbage it is in a way, which is sort of like, how you can hear that going through. And his storytelling is unmatched. His storytelling is just unrivaled.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: I'm going to try and just, like, keep my comments to a minimal. Keep them because.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: Keep them, keep them because I'm going to be chiming up a storm on yours. Go on. That's my list, though.
[00:42:56] Speaker A: You've not put him in order, have you?
[00:42:58] Speaker B: No. Nas, Kendrick, MFDM, Qtip, eminem, six through ten could all be in my top five. J. Colby could be in my top five. There's plenty of others who could be in my top five who aren't. But if I had to slate it down to them, that's what it'd be.
[00:43:15] Speaker A: So it's a tough one in it because you like your list? I hate them because I'm terrible at making them because I didn't want to cut any. I mean, I've got, like, a list of a good. You can see just.
[00:43:26] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I've got a big list. Go on.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Of people that I worthy. I mean, like you said, there's no right answer, but there's lots of wrong answers. I mean, there's a couple that are definitely, well, not definitely wrong answers, but it's more like there's so many different reasons why I would put X and Y in my top five.
[00:43:43] Speaker B: So your top five rappers?
[00:43:45] Speaker A: Oh, your top five artists are my top five artists. Number one.
[00:43:49] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: The goat, Kendrick Lamar.
[00:43:51] Speaker B: Love it. Carry on.
[00:43:52] Speaker A: Unwavering support for that man.
[00:43:54] Speaker B: You don't even need to say anything. You can just leave it.
[00:43:56] Speaker A: Number two, Mr. Kanye west.
[00:43:59] Speaker B: Yeah, he could have been in mine as well.
[00:44:01] Speaker A: And the reason why I think people are going to disagree with it is because as a rapper, I get it. I get it. People think he's nowhere near, but I just.
[00:44:07] Speaker B: No, he has got bars.
[00:44:09] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:44:10] Speaker B: Just because he's songwriting and his melodies are so memorable, you forget he's got. Go back and listen to his early stuff. He's got bars.
[00:44:16] Speaker A: Exactly. I'm going to go through my list more. So number three, Mr. F doom.
[00:44:20] Speaker B: Yeah, love it.
[00:44:20] Speaker A: Mr. Ref doom. Number four, dig. Go for biggie.
[00:44:23] Speaker B: Yeah, fair.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: I dig off the notorious B-I-G who's over there, but I think he's the.
[00:44:29] Speaker B: Listen, I'm a hip hop historian as it may be, but I just don't think I could put someone on top five who's got two albums out, so. And obviously he died before the age you even are now.
[00:44:40] Speaker A: Right. You're.
[00:44:41] Speaker B: And I just don't think it's enough. I think him dying solidified him more. If he was still alive, I don't think he'd get the same. Even if he continued, he would not get the same.
[00:44:50] Speaker A: Well, on that point, I think if Eminem would have died ten years ago, people would say he's the 100% they were. The reason why Eminem is not made my top five is because the last ten years music he's made is a hundred garbage.
[00:44:58] Speaker B: Yeah, you're 100% correct.
[00:45:00] Speaker A: Whereas there's only really Kanye west there that is of an age where he should be past it and he's not.
[00:45:07] Speaker B: No, carry on. Anyway, no arguments with this list.
[00:45:08] Speaker A: So I will go through and justify, though. And number five, I did go for Andre 3000.
[00:45:13] Speaker B: Yeah, fair.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: Right answer. And it was tough because your favorite.
[00:45:16] Speaker B: Rapper'S favorite rapper is the expression for him.
[00:45:19] Speaker A: Yeah, but I mean, my list, the list of people I was even just putting in there, just throwing names around, was like, I obviously had Eminem and QiP in there. I had JC, Drake, J. Cole. I even put black thought in there. Nas was obviously in Tupac. I even added some pack in there.
[00:45:35] Speaker B: Fair.
[00:45:37] Speaker A: And I had Miss Lauryn Hill. Now, the reason why, because I think when I come to this top five list, I was thinking of. I mean, I had the words perfectly there. So I was thinking of impact, catalog delivery, and their artistry.
It's really over the top and ADHD of me to think like this, but I couldn't because I think as their ability as a rapper, I think eminems should be in a top five. But I tried to combine all of those points, which is why I cancel. The five came to and ironically, I broke them down. So for my impact, I was like, who's the list that's going to impact for my catalog? Who's the list going to cut? And Kendrick Lamar topped everyone, obviously, which is, again, the reason why I think it's completely unquestionable why he's up there, because I think his bars are insane, his delivery is insane, his actual tone and just his actual rap voice that he's got, you know what so unique.
[00:46:30] Speaker B: On this, because I saw an interview with Dr. Dre and there was someone asking him because obviously worked on songs on good kid by city, and he said, what was the thing that stood out to you? Then he said it was his voice or anything. He said, I thought he had such an interesting voice for his age and his size. Because he's tiny. Yeah, he's so short, no offense.
And it was Maury's height. It was Maury's voice because he's as tall as like a pop vinyl. That he was like. It was just so interesting that that voice. He had felt so beyond his years and was so interesting.
[00:47:04] Speaker A: When I was working with, doing the charity work with young lads and we were doing, and they were all rappers and we were doing production and stuff like that with them, every single session we had was just basically like licking the ass of Kendrick Lamar and sending homework for him. And it was even stuff like, when it comes to delivery, I mean, there's no one like Kendrick Lamar where it's like every twelve bars is delivery style changes.
One song with just him on it can sound like a feature of ten people could. And I don't think there's anyone that achieves that or pulls that off so successfully as Kendrick Lamar. But we can also sit here and talk about the fact that I think definitely two of his albums are in the top ten albums of all time. For me, if damn didn't have Kendrick Lamar's name on it, it would be in a top ten and I think it would be in a top ten rapper.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: We said this, that untettled, unmastered. His b sides would be. His b sides would be other rappers best work.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: Put another name on that album. It's getting a Grammy nomination.
[00:47:58] Speaker B: Oh, it. And consider it only had seven. And then they released the 8th track.
[00:48:02] Speaker A: On it, which is, I think, the best one. The 8th tune.
[00:48:04] Speaker B: Well, on the 7th one, obviously on Levity, it was so good. The NBA took it and it was their themed title song for the whole playoffs the year that it came out because they were like, this tuney was his throwaway song. He went, have this just to keep you entertained while I'm working on.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Imagine if Kanye released an untitled master album every year.
[00:48:21] Speaker B: Well, it does get released. It just goes straight to your phone and not to streaming platforms.
[00:48:26] Speaker A: But anyway, I could do an hour podcast, as you know, and I'm sure you could as well. Why Kendrick Miles? They go number two. So when, again, I was talking about detail of mine.
[00:48:36] Speaker B: You've gone for, like, 50 names.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: No, I'm going into the detail of why I picked him. Raffled out my five, gone. I'm going into my detail because I want to justify him, say less. The reason why Kanye west is number two, because I understand that people get in. I mean, again, like I was saying, if it was just rappers, there's no way Kanye west could be number two as a. That was an interesting noise. There's no way Kanye west would be, like, actually have a stand as a number two best rapper. Delivery wise. No, but there's obviously, like I said, there's the impact, the delivery of the artistry. The artistry. I don't think there's anyone like him. I mean, what are we on? We've said this a million times before, and as a big fan, I should know, but I think we're on ten albums now or something like that.
[00:49:14] Speaker B: No, you've got to be on.
I think it's more 1112 now.
[00:49:20] Speaker A: I mean, especially the fact, either way, it's over ten. And especially the fact that he's got albums that he's written as a producer, done all the beats for and features on. Yeah, exactly.
But either way, so these, like, fucking plethora of. I think it's the biggest and most consistently good catalog in hip hop history. I really do think 100% correct. And that's the reason why when we're talking about hip hop, I think he has to be number two. And realistically, you know how much I love Kanye. Like, if Kendrick wasn't around, Kanye would be, like, unwavering at the top. But I think it's a tough two for them. And I think it's criminal that those two have an album together. We don't get to hear 100%. Number three. The reason I put MF doom there. Same reason as you. I mean, MF Doom's your favorite rapper's favorite rapper. Really?
[00:50:01] Speaker B: He is.
[00:50:02] Speaker A: And I mean, I think it's pretty mad to think that he could have been the most famous, like, the biggest hip hop star on the planet, and he just didn't want that.
[00:50:10] Speaker B: He wanted to chat about comic books.
[00:50:12] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: And like, weird stories. That doesn't make any sense because he has not told one story about his actual life, because all of his stories are just about made up scenarios, fantasy stories. You know what he probably would have done if he was still alive and healthy and wanted to be active? He probably would have gone into writing. He probably would have produced tv show, like a show like Atlanta. That would have been a kind of thing that I can imagine he would have put out.
[00:50:34] Speaker A: Because now you're saying. That's made me think, though. I think he's the kind of guy that's probably got shitloads of stuff out there under another name.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: 100% he is.
[00:50:42] Speaker A: You're going to be proud of me that I know this, but I actually know this because of the little Dicky series. But Kareem Abdul Jabbar having loads of articles out there as a writer, and even though it's like some of them, he's got alias names, some of it's just named, but nobody knows him, is like right for the New York Times. But MF Doom was more than capable of that. And again, when I was doing those sessions with young lads and kids and stuff, I was always breaking down, you know, there's YouTube videos, the lyric videos where they break down the rhymes on rap genius, doing them all on loads of Doom tracks, and it's like there's just no one like it. Yeah, his delivery is so unique, his voice being recognizable and stuff like that. His catalog, I mean, his catalog is so much bigger than people realized. And I get that it's not all as good as the top one, but I'm yet to hear an MFDM album I don't actually like. Also, you never mind all his aliens.
[00:51:28] Speaker B: All of his joint stuff when he's with like, zarface, when he's doing those, because I love some of those albums more than the others because it's him and esoteric and Inspector deck from Wu Tang who also went, I also really love comic books and Spider man. Should we just work together and just rap about superheroes and all their characters and alter egos? We sort of like Mr. Fantastic and those. And he's obviously not talking about that one. He's just doing different characters and bits.
[00:51:54] Speaker A: And this is where your favorite rapper's favorite rapper comes from, though, because only a true hip hop head would actually appreciate the catalog MF Doom's got. Because it's not like a know. No, it's not like a straight out of Compton album that changed the world. But it's so genius in its own way. And I do think Mf Doom's impact is massive. It's just underground.
[00:52:16] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure.
[00:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway. And solid list so far.
[00:52:19] Speaker B: What have you got, Andrew?
[00:52:20] Speaker A: Three four. My number four. And the reason I did really want to justify notorious pig because considering what the reason I've justified my top three, biggie's almost the opposite because like you said, he's only got two albums out there. But from the countless documentaries I've seen of Biggie, I think the way he actually did change the game overrules a lot of stuff. I mean, I've seen so many documentaries of like he had, like, I think it was a neighbor who was a famous New York saxophone player doing like Bebop and jazz and stuff like that. And he was like teaching Biggie where to put his cadences and stuff. Like, and his rhythms were so unique. Obviously before that it was just like, hello, cool J. Hello, cool J. Yeah.
[00:53:04] Speaker B: Which is not really even. It's more like Grandmaster Flash.
[00:53:07] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:53:07] Speaker B: Early, I get your point.
[00:53:09] Speaker A: Biggie came hopefully even get some triad in the comment that's going to bring up some underground artists that actually did change the game. As far as I'm aware. Biggie was the big guy that came on after all that stuff. That really changed and is what we listen today as rap. I think he completely changed that and it was really clever for what he was doing. Even like just sampling old school stuff like, I mean, people were doing at the time, but I think it was a fresh take on everything. And again, I think this is going to sound stupid, but I think certain artists, especially musicians, when they die at a certain age, it's brilliant for their legacy. And again, without sounding super insensitive, the fact the man's dead, but his legacy, that did him a favor because it's like Jimi Hendrix. People talk about Jimi Hendrix as like one of the goats of music history. But realistically he died at what, 27? You're telling me he was not going to make shit music? Miles Davis. If Miles Davis had died at 30, he'd be like, I mean, I know he's a trumpet player and all this shit and he's not.
[00:54:01] Speaker B: Speaking of which, pause.
Did you watch the Miles Davis film? The Don Cheadle movie we played.
[00:54:08] Speaker A: Watch it yet?
[00:54:08] Speaker B: I've not either and it looks good. We should watch it together.
[00:54:10] Speaker A: Let's do that. Okay.
[00:54:11] Speaker B: He did a crazy because his voice was like this. He speaks like that the whole film, which sounds really tough to do. That hurt just doing that.
[00:54:19] Speaker A: It would for you.
[00:54:20] Speaker B: It would.
[00:54:21] Speaker A: Anyway. Yeah. So like Miles Davis, I mean, I know it might be a poor example, but because he's not a singer, whatever. But my point being, like people, he changed the game. He was genius, blah, blah, blah, blah. He, fortunately for him, lived a nice healthy life.
[00:54:33] Speaker B: Well, he wasn't friends with P. Diddy, so.
[00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Burn.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: I don't think that's even. It's not even news at this point.
[00:54:39] Speaker A: No, it's not.
[00:54:39] Speaker B: By the time this comes out, that'll be confirmed. It was P. Diddy. You put exactly mate in the.
[00:54:44] Speaker A: Anyway, yeah, Miles Davis didn't have any dangerous enemies, but point being, he lived long enough to make garbage music and almost taint his legacy a little bit because then the percentage of good album to bad album and good music and bad music he was making was kind of getting me and more in the middle as opposed to being brilliant. Whereas Jimi Hendrix died at the top.
He didn't make any shit. And that's what I mean about Eminem. Yeah, exactly. But like Eminem, I struggled to not put him in my five because Eminem kind of got me into rap as a kid. And the funny thing is, even which one was the album not afraid on? It wasn't rehab. What was it?
[00:55:17] Speaker B: Recovery.
[00:55:18] Speaker A: Recovery, yeah. I remember the single of that song but I think I was 2010.
[00:55:23] Speaker B: I think it was.
[00:55:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I was twelve. I was going to say that was the first rap album that I listened to new when it came out and being a typical twelve year old, I just was like.
[00:55:34] Speaker B: You had your white vest on, you.
[00:55:35] Speaker A: Born daring so hard right now skanking.
[00:55:37] Speaker B: Out in your mirror. You're also on that. He's one of the few artists where I've from like 2012 back had all of his albums on like actual CD ones I would go to HMV to get a physical copy of.
[00:55:52] Speaker A: Remember that?
[00:55:53] Speaker B: So I had everything from the slim shady LP in 2001 I think onwards. So that relapse Marshall Mathis LP, I'm really blanking on loads of albums names. I can think of all the covers, but all of those have like the golden. His ten years where he just went on a run of just numbers and was doing bit.
[00:56:12] Speaker A: And this is what I mean though.
[00:56:15] Speaker B: I know if he died. Stupid comment. Because if he died in 2011 and he only had twelve, maybe 15 years of include infinite, then you go died after rap God.
[00:56:25] Speaker A: Because I know the album that that came out was all right.
[00:56:28] Speaker B: Kamikaze.
[00:56:29] Speaker A: Yeah, but like rap God as a song was like him proving to the world that his actual ability as a rapper is still not diminished. Insane.
[00:56:35] Speaker B: Listen, I've got terrible music now, but listen to this.
[00:56:38] Speaker A: Exactly. Whereas from then on, it's just been kind of sad in a little way, and I haven't really listened. But I think if you'd have asked me this question years ago, it'd have been way up there. But I just don't really listen to him anymore.
[00:56:50] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:56:50] Speaker A: Is that your four?
So that's why Biggie was four, just for his impact. Blah, blah, blah. Andre 3000. Now, this was one that I was like, we've had this conversation a few times. I think Andre 2000, a bit like MF doom. Could have been like, if he wanted to, he could have been the goat, could have been the absolute goat. But he made music he wanted to make, which is still sick anyway. I mean, his catalog really is not that massive. To think that this flute album we've got is his first solo album.
[00:57:18] Speaker B: On the flute album, I've got to say a fat tonight, which I'm sure I've already told you already know, for people who don't, that he's under another alias or he's not even credited, and he's on bunch of other rappers who've asked him, hey, can you just whistle a bit of flute on my tune? And straight away my head? As soon as he said that, I paused the video and then thought I'd gone from a hip hop and I said it was Portland by Drake. Because the start of that, it's playing out, it's that bit, which is. That was bang on, was that? And I thought when that came out, and I remember when I was working at Nike at the time, and that would come on because that was on rotation and I was like, what a weird, interesting little flute to get in there. And I think at the time, because that was 2016 to 2018, somewhere between there.
That would not surprise me if that was him, because he's been playing. He hasn't been playing that massive whatever he's playing, but like a basic little flute, and it's a really basic melody. You could learn that in five minutes.
[00:58:10] Speaker A: But there's been videos of him walking the streets, playing flute for ten years.
[00:58:13] Speaker B: He's walking around Japan and just doing this and then saying hello to people.
[00:58:20] Speaker A: Future. And I think Metro booming have come out a few times.
[00:58:23] Speaker B: Yeah, they will have.
[00:58:24] Speaker A: And said something. I mean, I even think that the big shot tune off Black Panther. Big shot, I think that's him.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: Yeah. You might be right. You might be right.
[00:58:34] Speaker A: But then again, I'm sure anything in hip hop with a flute on it, people are going, oh, yeah, that's got to be. But yeah, as an actual rapper, I just think, I mean, ironically, my favorite song with Andre 2000 is the solo reprise on Blonde. I think that is one of the best vocal deliveries of a rapper. It's just so good. Never mind the fact that the piano part is James Blake.
[00:58:54] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't know this.
[00:58:55] Speaker A: So obviously it does help for me personally that three of my absolute idols are on one track.
[00:58:59] Speaker B: Black people love James Blake. I don't.
He's the only white boy.
[00:59:05] Speaker A: He deserves it. He deserves to be with you.
[00:59:07] Speaker B: He does. Because he's the only white guy on both of the black panda.
[00:59:13] Speaker A: Black panda, black Panther Panther and Black Panda.
[00:59:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I can't get pandas out today. But also that he's also, when we went to go see him, I did not know until he walked on stage that he was like nearly as tall as Kobe. Yeah, he's six five, but he sings like jimin. How does that make sense?
He's got four inches on me and yet his voice is way up there.
This is the thing that Danielle says anytime any James Blake song because I remember I made a weird noises. I made a 20 track, does a.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Lot like a fire engine from here.
[00:59:53] Speaker B: I made a 20 track playlist with Danielle before he went because I went hear his biggest song, hear a couple of big hits from each album. This is guaranteed set list. And as you know, I'm still mad because he played.
He went, you know, you guys want to hear all my own music? Nah. No, I don't. Or do you want to hear all my smallest songs and all my features? No. Apart from the one with Dave, that's the only one allow.
[01:00:14] Speaker A: And he's on that Stevie cover. Stevie Wonder.
[01:00:16] Speaker B: And he's done a Stevie Wonder cover, which I liked. But the only thing is that it.
[01:00:19] Speaker A: Was a random set list on those.
[01:00:21] Speaker B: Dan was going, you know what, I like him. And then towards the end of every song, he just gets the weird, weird button on the piano out and he's just hitting DJ and all the weird noises.
[01:00:29] Speaker A: It sounds like someone dropped like an mp3 recorder into a factory and just like it got booted around on the floor for a bit.
[01:00:34] Speaker B: It actually annoys me though, because now that I listen, she's kind of ruined.
[01:00:37] Speaker A: It though, because I, since saying that.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: I listen, I go back and listen to my favorite songs and I'm like, I'm trying to listen what, that noise in the background? And it's literally like someone beating a frying pan.
[01:00:46] Speaker A: Literally. There'll be, like, a nice, beautiful jazz.
[01:00:48] Speaker B: Piano and then just a. Yeah, that's a good example. That's a good example.
[01:00:53] Speaker A: He's still amazing. Anyway.
[01:00:54] Speaker B: He's still a goat.
[01:00:54] Speaker A: But, I mean, for a man like that to be on Beyonce's albums, he's got to work with Kanye. Everyone who's anyone in hip hop. Yeah, I mean, not that Beyonce.
[01:01:05] Speaker B: His missus was in she Hulk, though, so that's an l for him. Good for her.
[01:01:09] Speaker A: But she's a. She's collect that bag before that.
[01:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah, she's in a good place.
[01:01:13] Speaker A: She was. Yeah. Jamila. Jamil. Don't really not say after that because she Hulk was garbage, and I don't really want to talk about it.
[01:01:18] Speaker B: No, we won't talk. We've spoke about she Hulk. Enough. They've got enough free press.
[01:01:21] Speaker A: It's gonna be a fucking avenger, bro.
[01:01:24] Speaker B: Jamila Jamil, no.
[01:01:25] Speaker A: Fucking she Hulk.
[01:01:26] Speaker B: See this won't. They won't.
[01:01:28] Speaker A: She is in the lineup for the new avengers. They ain't doing okay with it.
[01:01:31] Speaker B: They canned season two of she Hulk. They went, allow it. We're not doing it.
[01:01:34] Speaker A: Well, hopefully they can. She Hulk.
[01:01:36] Speaker B: They just might. They'll. Ah. She didn't. She didn't make it. She died off screen.
[01:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, Hulk's famously can't die, but she.
[01:01:44] Speaker B: She did, though.
[01:01:44] Speaker A: She did. Yeah, she Hulk.
[01:01:46] Speaker B: She died by lack of revenue and critical value.
[01:01:49] Speaker A: She died by breaking the fourth wall.
[01:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:52] Speaker A: Fucking fuck off. Anyway, so your top list, one, two, five is what? My top list, one to five, is Kendrick Lamar, Kanye West, MF doom, notorious B-I-G Andre 2000, the great list. Exactly. And again, it could have been. I could have give you.
[01:02:04] Speaker B: Well, like I said, there's no variations. We've only got a few of the same people in our list. We've only got, what, three of the same? Yeah, we've got only three people that are in both our top five. Eminem, Kendrick.
[01:02:16] Speaker A: Eminem is not in mine.
[01:02:17] Speaker B: Then just Kendrick and MF doom are both our similar.
[01:02:19] Speaker A: But the list could be anything.
[01:02:21] Speaker B: Our top 20 probably be identical.
[01:02:24] Speaker A: I think, if I'm being honest, there was three that I thought, it's wrong. I'm not putting them in the top.
[01:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I had a few of those.
[01:02:32] Speaker A: And I think it was Eminem.
[01:02:34] Speaker B: Cole being there was a part of.
[01:02:36] Speaker A: Me that was even saying Drake just because, again, like I was saying, from the categories I was going through, even though we've had this conversation that Drake's got too much music out. His streaming numbers and his records, everything's broke, can't be ignored. Even though I think it doesn't. I mean, I'm debating myself here, sorry. But even though the streaming records, I just think, doesn't relate at all because everyone's saying he's bigger than the Beatles now. Like, well, the Beatles sold those records physically anyway. That's a tangent. But Drake is still probably the biggest thing in hip hop at the moment. Can't be ignored. And it has been for long enough, I think, for him to be in that conversation. And I also do think Jay Z, and I know you're not really into Jay Z, and I think Nas, maybe he's a better rapper.
[01:03:14] Speaker B: It's not a wrong answer.
[01:03:14] Speaker A: There's so many sick stories of, like, where people are just. Some of his best verses are just completely improvised and freestyled and stuff like that. And you get so many producers that are, like, asked about it and they're like, no, he does literally press record, go in there, hum for a bit, and then just drop, like, the coldest verse you've ever heard. But again, Jay Z changed the game for me.
[01:03:34] Speaker B: I ain't mad at it. I'm not mad at mean, I thought.
[01:03:37] Speaker A: Miss Lauryn Hill should be in there, even just for the. Just for impact, please.
[01:03:46] Speaker B: And I love Robert Glasper, so I would take his word for it. So I guess for context for anyone that's listened doesn't know Robert Glasper, who's a very iconic jazz, hip hop multi stylist musician.
[01:03:57] Speaker A: Rammy winning.
[01:03:58] Speaker B: He worked actually on.
If you want someone to listen to that you think is any good, and bite size, listen to the. Speaking of Miles Davis, the soundtrack. He did hell yeah for the Miles Davis movie because it's so good. And he obviously spoke at the time when he knows people who worked on the miseducation Larano, which is still considered top three out of 90s hip hop albums and one of the best ever.
[01:04:19] Speaker A: I think it's in the top ten albums ever, probably.
[01:04:21] Speaker B: And he was like, didn't write any of it. Loads of musicians run it, took credit.
[01:04:25] Speaker A: On all of it. Yeah, massive bitch.
[01:04:28] Speaker B: I think it's one of the only genres where you got to do it yourself. You have to it yourself. All the ones you can have. I think it's totally fine for a pop star to have sing a songwriter, write a song for them to go, this is in your lane. I'm all right for you. Just perform it because it's the performance that's all about it.
[01:04:41] Speaker A: But, bro, the album's got her name in it. Like, in a title. Well, this about taking credit for other people's shit, though.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:04:47] Speaker A: I mean, maybe being called the Miss. It should have been called the education of Lauryn Hill because it was everyone teaching her how to write a good album.
[01:04:53] Speaker B: That's it right there. Yeah. That's a mic drop moment. Get out. It should be mis educational hill plus.
[01:04:58] Speaker A: Others in, like, really small collaborative album.
[01:05:01] Speaker B: Yeah, because it is. But that's why after learning that, I can't give as much credit.
[01:05:05] Speaker A: I mean, after hearing that, I looked into a bit more and it just sounds like she's a massive uber bitch. But either way, she's fucking mint. I think her deliveries are sick. I mean, all the Fuji stuff. I love all that old stuff as well.
[01:05:18] Speaker B: I'll put just a peg below Erica Badu, though, that she's, like, right there.
[01:05:21] Speaker A: I mean, Erica Badu is a own in her own, like, made up. I don't even care if it's neo soul, just in her own little.
[01:05:28] Speaker B: When was the last time she put any music apart from she did, obviously, a song on RM's album, which was a big.
[01:05:33] Speaker A: Which is in my playlist, which I.
[01:05:35] Speaker B: Really, really liked, but finger hearts. Other than that, I don't know when the last time she dropped anything was.
[01:05:41] Speaker A: But I've seen her do a couple of New York boiler room sets and stuff like that, though.
[01:05:44] Speaker B: There you go. When you kind of money, you're just doing somewhat for fun.
[01:05:47] Speaker A: That's why I envy, though. Do you not think sometimes you just want to like. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'd love to be the Grammy winning artist and all that shit, but I just want to skip all that bit and just be like, get to the bit.
[01:05:55] Speaker B: Where you're like, I've got a bowl of money. Someone goes, hey, do you want to do 20k for a future? Yeah, I'll do a chorus. Come on, then.
[01:06:01] Speaker A: Go on, then. Yeah, and then I'm going to make a flute album for myself.
[01:06:06] Speaker B: Exactly.
[01:06:07] Speaker A: I hate the flute. I wouldn't do that, but, I mean, this is the thing, so I would love to do that, but, yeah, so that's my top five and that's your top five.
[01:06:14] Speaker B: Good. Top five.
[01:06:15] Speaker A: You confident with your top five?
[01:06:16] Speaker B: Solid. So solid.
[01:06:17] Speaker A: I am confident.
[01:06:18] Speaker B: If you said make a different top five, different people, I could do it in two minutes.
[01:06:22] Speaker A: 100%. I completely agree.
[01:06:23] Speaker B: I made this list.
[01:06:23] Speaker A: I could probably make three or four top five. I would be happy with it and argue as well because I do think it's criminal that J Cole's not there as well.
[01:06:29] Speaker B: It really is. But that's where he said that the top three is Kendrick, Cole, Drake. And I'm two down. I've seen two of them. I've just got Drake to see. And he said on a recent stream when he was promoting his thingy, his new alter ego.
[01:06:44] Speaker A: Just going to have to see if I've got $300 line, 300 lira liner.
I'd be like 4 million lira.
[01:06:51] Speaker B: Lira's gone up though. 38. 38.
[01:06:57] Speaker A: I need some new junk lows anyway.
[01:06:59] Speaker B: Yeah, brilliant.
[01:07:01] Speaker A: Anyway, should we go on to our next top five list then?
[01:07:03] Speaker B: Go on, run it. You introduce it.
[01:07:05] Speaker A: Liam, I think you were like stalking my phone or something because.
[01:07:08] Speaker B: Go on.
[01:07:09] Speaker A: Someone was asking me about PS one games.
[01:07:11] Speaker B: Someone's asking you about this?
[01:07:12] Speaker A: As I asked you one games about a day before and I was talking about like, yeah, I did have a PS one. Loved it and I had grand tourismo on there. Remember this?
[01:07:19] Speaker B: Oh, you plug in, you the wheel.
[01:07:21] Speaker A: My dad was a big fan of all that and then didn't think anything of it. And then you messaged me and was like, we should do a segment of top five ps one games.
[01:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:07:30] Speaker A: Now I love a list like this, but one thing that does annoy me is that I just wish I could rewind my brain because I did have to google it.
[01:07:36] Speaker B: It's a while ago, I used to.
[01:07:37] Speaker A: Do the same, but when I googled it, there was an obvious five of the many that jumped out. I was like, oh my God. And the memories it brought back for me were mad.
[01:07:44] Speaker B: Do you want to go first? You want me to go first?
[01:07:45] Speaker A: I think you should go first on my. You can remember them better than me.
[01:07:48] Speaker B: I can remember them better because I remember getting a PS one. I'm almost certain it was in the year 2000, so I was only four or five, depending on how late in the year it was. And then obviously playing that for years until I got a PS two. So I've got such loose memories. But they're all my oldest memories of just playing PlayStation one. So for me there was a few rattled off straight away and then I had to go and Google most popular PS one games of all time to just refresh and make sure I didn't miss anything. Top one, Spyro the dragon, which they're still making today and they're still selling toys and merch of today. And I loved Spyro and if anyone.
[01:08:23] Speaker A: Wants to play it, purple little bastard. I miss him.
[01:08:25] Speaker B: They remastered it. The first three games, they remastered it and I've got it on Xbox one for like 17 quid and replayed them well cheap. And it was the most joyous thing because it's the same garbage graphics that have just been updated. And it's so good because it's so weird playing some it you remember so loosely, so that every time you load a gate load like a world, you go, this is all so familiar.
It's class.
[01:08:53] Speaker A: I so recommend keep my mouth shut.
[01:08:55] Speaker B: Next one. Tony Oak Pro skater two. There's no one who wouldn't have in this. I didn't play one and it seems that nobody bought the first one. Because when I googled it, when I googled most popular, loads of them were just Tony Oak's pro skater two.
[01:09:06] Speaker A: I saw a TikTok about the first one being worth a fortune because it's.
[01:09:09] Speaker B: Like, maybe that's what it is.
[01:09:11] Speaker A: No. Is it like there's not that many.
[01:09:12] Speaker B: Around, but that's what I'm saying. That maybe because no one ever had him because I didn't know anyone had him. But tournaments, postgator two was so good because it was different arenas that were on there. You had loads of different people. I'm sure you could make your own. And the same thing as everything. Other games back then, the cheats were so good where you could fly. We could do all these other stuff.
[01:09:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I remember the match James Arnold days.
[01:09:31] Speaker B: They don't have cheats, which is kind of dry.
[01:09:34] Speaker A: ETa cheats alone were just fucking brilliant.
[01:09:37] Speaker B: They were. And now they don't have that anymore. Three, Jackie Chan stuntmaster, which I don't know if you ever played or do you recognize the name of that one?
[01:09:43] Speaker A: You know what, it's mad. When I googled all these games, trying to find them, and that was not there.
[01:09:47] Speaker B: Why they're not.
[01:09:47] Speaker A: But I did play that. You've just give me the memory live.
[01:09:50] Speaker B: On air like it looked so bad. But it was one of those ones that kind of looks like your Nintendo three DS game where it's like a top view. And I'm sure it was something like your friend, your daughter. Someone gets kidnapped by a bunch of goons and then you're just going throughout like Chinatown City, the hard g on that.
[01:10:07] Speaker A: Goons for me.
[01:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah, goons. Bunch of goons. And then you're going around the city at night, beating up guys, going up.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: Ladders, whatever, trying to find a classic blue t shirt.
[01:10:17] Speaker B: He's in a white t shirt, blue pants. I think it's only because you could see him because it's at nighttime. All right, but that was a class game. I love. Next one, Simpsons wrestling.
No, it's ps one. They may have redone it because obviously did the hit and run on ps two.
And it was so good because, as you know, I'm obviously a big Simpsons fan anyway. And it was all the classics from there. And you're in a ring. But they're not any of the powers that they had in the Simpsons. Like, their attributes. We used to have, like you were Barney. You could burp in someone's face and it'd be like frozen. Remember that? And it was so good because it's just a game. Would never get made here because they go, that would make no money. We're not making that.
[01:10:59] Speaker A: But with how much is out there today, it would make no money.
[01:11:03] Speaker B: Yeah, but in the time capsule that was the late ninety s two thousand, it would been out for ten years at that point. It was big, so it made sense. Last one, crash team racing. Crash Bandicoot, which I loved, but not crash Bandicoot, although I did enjoy it. But like the Mario kart of that CTR. And that was a class game. And I've got it on my little game Boy thing. I've got it on that. The exact one I had. And it's just as fun as I remember.
[01:11:29] Speaker A: On that note, have you seen Game Boy? I was in Affleck's palace the other day. People were selling Game Boys for 85 quid.
[01:11:39] Speaker B: Game Boy what?
[01:11:41] Speaker A: Just the original one. I've got the one with a little Game Boy advance. No, I've got the one with the fucking tattoos on it. What's they called?
Tribal stuff. Yeah.
[01:11:52] Speaker B: Was that not Game Boy advance? It's like square and it opens up like that. Yeah, because you had Game Boy advance and Game Boy, like, I want to say SP or SD.
[01:11:59] Speaker A: I remember color.
[01:12:00] Speaker B: Game Boy color I had.
[01:12:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[01:12:02] Speaker B: Because we were too poor. Our mom didn't want to buy one. We had a Game Boy color with Mario Brothers in it. Found it in a park. Just to buy a charger.
[01:12:11] Speaker A: Found in a park.
[01:12:12] Speaker B: That was a perfect. Thank you for that. That's my top five games. Spyro the Dragon, Tony Oak pro skated two. Jackie Chan, stuntmaster, Simpsons wrestling and Crash TV.
[01:12:21] Speaker A: I am so glad that you said all of them as well.
[01:12:23] Speaker B: Solid list.
[01:12:24] Speaker A: Because that's a solid list.
[01:12:25] Speaker B: And like, anyone who played PS one would have had those games because there wasn't like now, where there's loads. A million different games, they are classic game and I've only done the games I played myself.
[01:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah, right. So my top five PS one games. So my number one. I'm actually really surprised you didn't have.
[01:12:44] Speaker B: I can't believe I didn't put it in.
[01:12:46] Speaker A: It's Spiderman.
[01:12:47] Speaker B: It's so funny you say that because.
[01:12:50] Speaker A: How much you love that game.
[01:12:51] Speaker B: I did, and I've got it. I had the original Spiderman and Spiderman two enter Electro. I had both of the original first ever, like when they were voiced by Stan Lee and then Tobey Maguire was the voiceover and you know the ones where they're going in the sky, he's webbing in the sky and all the games are on top of buildings and there's this color gradient below and I genuinely forgot they existed.
[01:13:16] Speaker A: I knew you would have forgot because there's no other reason why you wouldn't have it in there.
[01:13:20] Speaker B: So I'm not playing Spiderman PS five, but I'm playing Spiderman PS one.
[01:13:24] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I mean, I need to sit down tonight and just watch YouTube cover. That's what I did of that because.
[01:13:29] Speaker B: That'S what I did.
[01:13:30] Speaker A: I mean, just even the screenshots of them find on top of that building. Just like it takes you right back. Yeah, but that's my number one.
[01:13:36] Speaker B: They had a lot of x Men in that. The first you meet beast straight away, then you meet black cat storms in it and then there's loads of different pitch.
[01:13:44] Speaker A: But I feel like it's not storm, it's black cat. Storm. Black cat. That's what I'm thinking of. Anyway. Number two again. I can't believe you not to put this in there. Tomb Raider.
[01:13:51] Speaker B: Never had it. Never had it with the triangle. Never had it.
[01:13:55] Speaker A: I mean, the thing is, there's a running joke in my family that my dad used to fancy the shit out of. Like Laura Croft getting his jolly two D, the film, not the little two bit character.
I never caught my dad carry on.
[01:14:09] Speaker B: Going to stop, don't leave it there.
[01:14:10] Speaker A: Stop right there. Yeah. Anyway, Tomb Raider. But, yeah. But to be fair, the funny thing is, the most memories I have from that is literally just walking around the mansion and just like, locking the butler in the cupboard and like, swimming.
[01:14:19] Speaker B: I keep seeing this. Locking the butler and cupboard on tits.
[01:14:22] Speaker A: That's my favorite bit. But anyway, great film. Number three, grand Tourismo.
[01:14:26] Speaker B: Yeah, fair.
[01:14:26] Speaker A: Now, I've never been a big racing game guy.
[01:14:28] Speaker B: No.
[01:14:29] Speaker A: Which I do find funny now, looking back. Considering that that was a pretty.
[01:14:32] Speaker B: They were everything though. In the PS ones, ps two s there was 100 race games. Now it's Forza and nothing else.
[01:14:39] Speaker A: Need for speeds. Probably made another 20 games that no one cares about.
[01:14:42] Speaker B: I remember need for speed, carbon speed. Revenge or burnout is the one going to say burnout because I still play burnout paradise.
[01:14:48] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry, carry on. Yeah. Anyway, so grand Tourismo, just because of the. Like I said before the level, did.
[01:14:53] Speaker B: You ever have the one where you'd have the pedals as well and put up against the Wall and you'd push and you'd actually sit there? That was so close.
[01:15:00] Speaker A: I mean the funny thing is, especially Tomb Raider and Grand Tourismo especially. But I got into this stuff because my dad liked Playstation and stuff like that. My dad was a bit. Well, funny thing is when you say gamer now my dad was not a gamer but my dad had PlayStation one so he had all the gear for grand Tourismo and stuff. So I remember all of that and we had a few of them games. But anyway, number four, I've got crash Bandicoot but not the racing one.
[01:15:22] Speaker B: Yeah, just the actual game.
[01:15:23] Speaker A: Exactly. And I've just got loads of fuzzy memories of that. But we did have that one, but I think we played that with a lot of family, friends. Number five had Final Fantasy.
[01:15:30] Speaker B: You played Final Fantasy?
[01:15:31] Speaker A: I can't remember what number it was, but we did because my daddy's playing.
[01:15:34] Speaker B: There was already six before the PS two came out.
[01:15:36] Speaker A: Exactly. Mad.
[01:15:37] Speaker B: The last one I played was 13.
[01:15:39] Speaker A: Yeah, because that was like loads of.
[01:15:40] Speaker B: Loads and I just dropped off because it got too complicated. Yeah, once the controls are getting a bit mad and the thing is, and I'm like, I also don't remember what.
[01:15:47] Speaker A: The story is because story when you've got 14 of them, but it's always.
[01:15:52] Speaker B: With those and the same thing that. No, Kingdom Hearts is like my, one of my. If we do a top PS two games, that's in there. And the story, I saw a YouTube video. It was the Kingdom Hearts two story condensed and it was like 4 hours long. The video, because the story is so.
[01:16:06] Speaker A: Can I just ask everyone some kind of manga japanese thing just by the way you looked at Danielle? Because I've never heard of that.
[01:16:11] Speaker B: You've never heard of it?
[01:16:11] Speaker A: No.
[01:16:12] Speaker B: It's Square Enix and Disney and it's basically a mix of some Final Fantasy characters and then a lot of the Disney properties where you're in like Aladdin's world and then you're in Olympus and then you're in all these different beauty and the beast and then you're just doing mission.
[01:16:26] Speaker A: I'm ashamedly going to backtrack because I now remember what that is. I haven't played it, but that sounds pretty good.
[01:16:30] Speaker B: Oh, it was amazing. It's amazing. They did Kinnamarts three only, I say only. It was like six years ago now, which was great. And then they just did like tangled, they did the more modern and if they did it now, they'd be garbage because no one watches Disney movies anymore.
[01:16:44] Speaker A: It would be good because Disney owns more now. They could probably bring even more into it.
[01:16:47] Speaker B: Oh yeah, they probably do Star wars and they do marvel because.
[01:16:50] Speaker A: What was that? I think it's wreckit Ralph, too. I'm sure they go to Disneyland or something.
[01:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah, they do.
[01:16:56] Speaker A: And there's Marvel, Iron man in there.
[01:16:58] Speaker B: People everywhere, group answering questions.
[01:17:00] Speaker A: That's it. Anyway, so that is my five.
[01:17:04] Speaker B: That's a good five.
[01:17:05] Speaker A: But I did have five slash six as it being spiral of the dragon because I couldn't really. Yeah, but I did put Tony Hawk as well, but I couldn't remember it well enough and I couldn't remember whether it was the ps two one that I bashed or not.
[01:17:16] Speaker B: I had it on both because they had a few that came out.
[01:17:18] Speaker A: I did love them. But that's my five. And I think the second we get to yours, we should be watching some footage of that because that's throwing some memories back for me there.
[01:17:26] Speaker B: It's a real throwback, real classic.
[01:17:30] Speaker A: Anyway, so we've covered some good stuff there tonight.
[01:17:33] Speaker B: That's it. That's topic.
[01:17:35] Speaker A: I've got some interesting things I want to talk about next week as well.
[01:17:37] Speaker B: Oh yeah, for sure. We didn't get into some of the topics that I wanted to, but they would add another 45 minutes.
[01:17:41] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. And I do want to say, and I'm going to say it just in case you want to clip it up, but do people want to hear the Epstein island stuff? Because I've been watching a lot of it and it's a lot of podcasts and a lot of just Don's like me and you.
[01:17:53] Speaker B: I've been reading it for years, very well filled. I know what I'm talking about and.
[01:17:57] Speaker A: It'S the week to talk about it because as much as it's been front page news for a while, the list is out.
[01:18:03] Speaker B: True. But you know what? Now's the best time to do it.
[01:18:05] Speaker A: Because now you, nobody cares who we are.
[01:18:06] Speaker B: No, you won't get shadow banned either.
[01:18:08] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Those accounts that follow us if no one knows we are, I'd save a.
[01:18:11] Speaker B: Video because someone talk about it and then go later and the video be deleted. So those are whole accounts will be getting shadow banned. And conveniently that'll be our one with no views.
[01:18:20] Speaker A: Yeah, and the other thing is, I want to say, hit us up with our top fives. I want to hear people's recommendations. People have been asking us to name wrestlers and shit like that.
[01:18:30] Speaker B: I saw that. I feel we do. Okay. We should do it. Well, you know what?
[01:18:33] Speaker A: Hang on.
[01:18:33] Speaker B: Maybe we'll have someone else make a list and show and we have to ding in.
[01:18:37] Speaker A: Yeah, because I was thinking we need to bring in the armchairs and get you later in the middle buzzer as some tests. We'll get some fun with that. But yeah, hit us up with what you want to hear us talking about and our top five. So give us some lists. Anyway. Good one. Okay, so thanks for tuning into this episode of the Feel Weird podcast. Our episodes from now on are going to be available on all streaming platforms, and we're going to have them up on YouTube as well with the video, so you can watch our two beautiful faces arguing and bickering. But in the meantime, check us out on all of our social media pages. We've got feel weird sessions on TikTok where you can catch interviews, highlights of the pod, performances in the studio, and just general content that we're popping out with. And then on Instagram, you want to pop over to feel weird studios to catch all of the things we're up to over there. But for now, have yourselves a fantastic week. And remember, keep being weird.
