Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Welcome back to the Philwe podcast. We're here for episode 27, which has gone so mad actually now. We were just talking before recording. Nearly 30.
[00:00:20] Speaker B: It's nearly 30.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: Don't we?
[00:00:23] Speaker B: No, because we keep celebrating. I want to wait till we get to 50.
[00:00:25] Speaker A: We do celebrate a lot.
[00:00:26] Speaker B: Every episode. We're like 37. We got to do something. And then we wait till 50 and then 75, then hundred.
[00:00:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: And then for the hundred we'll have on like both our dads are somewhat mad.
[00:00:36] Speaker A: That would be completely mad.
[00:00:37] Speaker B: That would be a surprising.
[00:00:39] Speaker A: At this rate though, by the time we're on 100 episodes, we will have figured out how to resurrect people by the time.
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Oh, 100%. Although.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: Was your dad buried or cremated?
[00:00:46] Speaker B: Cremated.
[00:00:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Same here. There's going to be some real insane.
Have we got any puzzle heads in the comments?
[00:00:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Really good at jigsaws.
[00:00:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:55] Speaker A: It's going to be really.
[00:00:56] Speaker B: They're going to need to be. Yeah.
[00:00:57] Speaker A: Anyway. Right then we're back again. So Lilz has survived one more week in the chair.
[00:01:03] Speaker C: Come on.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: But that also means one more question of the week. But your last one was really good.
[00:01:08] Speaker B: It was really good.
[00:01:08] Speaker C: I'm hoping I can keep that. Go up a notch now.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah, Clearly. Hit me.
[00:01:12] Speaker C: Okay. If aliens landed tomorrow and demanded a crash course in pop culture, which movie are you showing them first?
[00:01:20] Speaker B: Lil Movie. That's a really good movie or song.
[00:01:24] Speaker C: If you want to do that. But I think we'll be here all day if we do that.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: Should we do movie and album?
[00:01:27] Speaker C: Movie and album. Which you showing them first?
[00:01:31] Speaker A: So a movie to show them pop.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: Culture or to just humanity? They've never. They don't know anything about us. Because if you show them a movie of.
[00:01:37] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:38] Speaker B: They'll just. They'll think it's. They think it's real.
[00:01:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: So you gotta tell them it's fake. That's hard.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: No, me and Liam are gonna go like real west now. But. And I know it's obviously.
[00:01:47] Speaker C: Could you explain, like how cool this planet or how cool this planet is.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: Just something really cool.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: Yeah. I've actually got one for movie one, you know, I'm a big fan of, which is about the human spirit.
[00:01:58] Speaker A: If you bring up Eyes Wide Shut, it's not.
[00:02:01] Speaker B: Eyes Wide Shut is not the movie. I would show them whatsoever.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: They'd fucking dip. They'd be like, I'm not coming in. It's freaky.
[00:02:06] Speaker B: Secret Life of Walter Mitty.
[00:02:08] Speaker A: Why the fuck.
[00:02:10] Speaker B: Because the whole thing is about the human Spirit. It's about Ben Stiller working at Time magazine and it's about people. And it's him trying to find this lost photograph for the last cover. And it's him going all around the world meeting different people. And it is a really good. If you were actually an alien and you wanted to know a bit about humanity because you couldn't show them a really good film because you couldn't show them sinners, because I go, this place is mad.
Yeah. You'd have to show them something a bit more.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Can you grasp it?
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Something more close to real life. Do you know what I mean?
[00:02:39] Speaker A: Well, do you know what?
[00:02:40] Speaker B: So I think that'd be a good choice.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: Okay. Fair.
[00:02:42] Speaker B: It is. Because they're seeing. Oh, people are coming. Different colors, sizes, backgrounds, creeds. And they've all got relevant input into our main character.
[00:02:51] Speaker A: You've kind of helped me onto my answer there.
[00:02:52] Speaker B: Let me. You were going to say some mental, weren't you?
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I was trying of think. But I'm going to go with before.
Before the whole revelation. That is definitely not a very good person.
[00:03:03] Speaker B: Oh, Happy girl. Not Happy Gilmore. It was going to be Forest Gump. Forest Gump is what I meant.
[00:03:07] Speaker A: Forest Gump got me popped up.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: That would be a good one. But then because it shows the human.
[00:03:10] Speaker A: Spirit like you said it does, it's good choice. He's very like very. It's such a.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: But if they don't know what guy.
[00:03:15] Speaker A: And it goes through so much history as well.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: If they don't know what like autism is, they'll be like, why is he so weird?
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Why do you think aliens are going to come to the. Come to Earth.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: Speak to humans. See Forrest come and go. He's weird.
[00:03:28] Speaker B: He's weird, that guy.
[00:03:29] Speaker A: He. Forest comes cleverer than the person who would be communicating.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: And he's like, why is he with the aliens?
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Because the leader of the free world is more tapped up there, not up there.
[00:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah, true.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: Well, yeah, it goes through all of history. It covers loads of pop culture in. I'm gonna go for that. An album.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: I'm gonna say good kid. Mad City.
[00:03:48] Speaker B: That is the maddest choice.
[00:03:50] Speaker A: Yeah. But it's a story as well.
[00:03:51] Speaker B: It is a good story album though.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: And I think it's one of the best albums ever made.
[00:03:54] Speaker B: You know what? I'll give you one actually and only because it's a good one. Because it's got an on running monologue and I'm gonna make it. I'm putting this out there now. Cause I Already text you about it. That going forward we're gonna have some episodes where I'm gonna give Sam a music board entry to listen to. Listen to, and he's gonna give me one and we're both gonna listen to it and then review it upon the next episode.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:04:16] Speaker B: Which I think is a good show. I've already got mine. An idea. But either. Unless you can think of one off the top of your head, then if not, we'll think about it. Come back to the next episode.
[00:04:24] Speaker A: My last episode's introduction, induction of swag 2 because it's very MJ.
[00:04:28] Speaker B: But my album would be. It'd be Logic's Everybody because Neil DeGrasse Tyson plays God in it. And the start of the album cover is that it's the one.
[00:04:37] Speaker A: Oh, no, please, could you get that up? So Logic's album.
[00:04:39] Speaker B: Logic, everybody.
[00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And just.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: I mean, all of us are done.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: What's on the big screen? The album cover, please.
[00:04:44] Speaker B: It's better. It's.
[00:04:45] Speaker A: Yeah, there's one that looks like a huge renaissance paint.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: But basically the point is that the main are protagonist dies at the end of the first song and he talks to Neil DeGrasse Tyson, who's God, and he's basically talking through the afterlife process. And it comes in at the end of every song. And I think it's.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: That is the one I recognize the most.
[00:05:03] Speaker B: One I actually. Real big picture.
I think musically you'll really like it. But also as a fan of Neil DeGrasse Tyson. Cause who isn't?
[00:05:11] Speaker A: I love him.
[00:05:12] Speaker B: There's a really good narrative played out throughout the songs. So I think next week I'll listen before next episode I'll listen to Swag two. You listen to that and we'll give our review. I like that you like it a lot.
[00:05:23] Speaker A: Well, on that though, then, should we go for our music board entries?
[00:05:26] Speaker B: Let's go. My music board entry is.
Oh, there we go. Lonely at the Top. Joey Badass. And I put in. There you go. That's the COVID And there's loads of little Easter eggs that all of his, like, friends and producers and his dogs.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: And their own for the listeners. That is not the COVID to the Joey Badass album.
[00:05:39] Speaker B: No, it is not.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: Liam just pointed immediately to the screen because we finally got a picture of Logic's album up.
[00:05:44] Speaker B: Ironically, Joey Badass new album is a painting, but not a good one.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: That's an incredible album cover.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: That gorgeous album cover.
[00:05:49] Speaker A: Hit me again with your music board entry.
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Music board entry. Joey Badass, his Lonely at the Top.
[00:05:54] Speaker A: I didn't even know he had a new album.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: He did. And ironically, it's lonely at the top, but it's not an album you would consider at the top. I've been listening to Joey Badass since the Soundcloud days. I was a big fan of 1999. He's a bit of a cult 2000, he is. But his whole thing is that him meant to be at the top and his album just isn't great. I mean, from the opening track, he's got a very unique, real instruments usage and strings, which I think are so, like, if you played me a hundred beats and this opening track was in it, I would go, that's. I guarantee it's that one.
[00:06:26] Speaker A: Right?
[00:06:27] Speaker B: Because he's got a very similar sort of synth and stringy sounds he uses on a lot of them, but none of his hooks hit hard. He has some good features, but, like, it's not a good entry. So I've given it a two and a half because it feels like his label said, hey, by the way, we need an album before the end of the year. And he went, there you go.
[00:06:48] Speaker A: Oh, no, I hate that.
[00:06:49] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean? Like, it feels like it was a. Is an obligation. Because it isn't bad. It just isn't, like. Has no substance. Which is almost worse than it being bad. Because at least when it's bad, you've taken a chance.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, true. Yeah.
[00:07:02] Speaker B: Chance. That was it.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: Do you remember, did you ever like Mumford and Sons?
[00:07:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I like Mumford Attention.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: When they were. When they, like, first came up. Like, I really liked him.
[00:07:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: Family were obsessed with them and all that. And then I remember the third album came out and they went, like. When I say they went electronic, I don't mean like Daft Punk. Yeah, they all went like electric guitar.
[00:07:18] Speaker B: If it's not got a banjo in it, how is it a month and a song?
[00:07:20] Speaker A: Exactly. But like, I remember Bob Dylan, considering we've just had the Bob Dylan film out.
There's like a famous moment in music history where Bob Dylan went like rock and was playing electric guitar at a show. And there's a really famous moment where someone on the front row screamed Judas at him. Cause he was like.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: Modest insult.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: He was the face of a whole genre. And he'd, like, dipped. But it was a bit like, crazy. I can't believe. Just compared Wolfington to Judas to Bob Dylan. Anyway, but when they went for that third album and it was. It wasn't very good, but I was like, They've done two folk albums of two of them.
Like, they have to try something. And I actually respected.
[00:08:00] Speaker B: Yeah, you have to. Coldplay did the best example of that.
[00:08:03] Speaker A: Coldplay, the best example of everything of.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: Folk, but used to be one kind of very specific style. And then they've done electronica, edm.
[00:08:10] Speaker A: Can I just die on a hill right now? Which, ironically, I'm kind of preaching to.
[00:08:13] Speaker B: The kid I'm on that hill with. I'm on that hill.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: I actually. This was on my notes to talk in the last episode, and it's still there.
[00:08:19] Speaker B: Coldplay hate.
[00:08:20] Speaker A: I can't. I don't get all the hate. And we've had this conversation many times before.
[00:08:23] Speaker B: No, they've come over it now. Ed Sheeran, in an interview I saw last week. So how. He's big. He's big friends with all the guys, especially Chris, and he said how, like, do you remember how it was really trendy to hate on Coldplay for years? And he said, I feel like they've actually come over that hill now. And the people that did say that have now gone. Actually. They got some bangers.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: I mean, maybe Chris has said to him, oh, no, we found that now we've kind of gone over that hump of. Oh, Coldplay is just boring white guys.
Those boys.
[00:08:51] Speaker A: Well, I guess they went super commercial as well, haven't they?
[00:08:53] Speaker B: Yeah, we have to.
[00:08:54] Speaker A: I don't even want to, like, get into all that, because I think that's a whole thing in itself, but it's more a case of, like, I've told you before, and I will not be naming any names because people listen to this podcast will still have ties to him, but a certain person I used to know, Alex Shepard.
Sorry, Fantastic.
[00:09:11] Speaker C: BLEEP that one out.
[00:09:12] Speaker B: Can you put a timer when that is. Was that actually right? I didn't mean.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it wasn't. That person's father. Big music.
[00:09:17] Speaker B: They're not listening to this podcast.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: No, but I don't actually care either way.
[00:09:21] Speaker B: We'll bleep it.
[00:09:22] Speaker A: No, my point being is he was a really cool guy. I really loved his music. He hated Coldplay.
[00:09:27] Speaker B: You've told me this.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: I've told you this before. And he always used to say, I hate Coldplay because it's, like, super depressing. I just want him to write, like, a happy song. What's your favorite band, then, Steve? Radiohead.
[00:09:36] Speaker B: That's crazy, though. Yeah, I love Radiohead, Deftones, and loads of other sad artists.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: So, literally.
[00:09:41] Speaker B: That is very.
[00:09:43] Speaker A: But I. Yeah, I feel like Chris Martin's been in the news as well a lot at the moment for saying lots of stuff at concerts etc. And I'm not even talking about the CEO guys remember like when he.
He said something about giving support to Israel and Palestine was booing him. But like he's on the whole hippie train at the moment.
His thing has always been loved, so I get it.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: That's always been his thing and I kind of respect him for it. That he isn't gonna. Because a fan's paid to come and see him.
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Oh yeah.
[00:10:06] Speaker B: He's not gonna go, well, you're a dirty little da da da da. I respect that. He's gonna say, I'm gonna show love to you and respect to you even if I don't rock with what people are doing.
[00:10:16] Speaker A: And to be fair, you know, a band of that size, they are. As much as people can talk about whether their intentions are true. And because they're all rich. They were middle class upbringing or whatever. Like, I don't know. You don't know them. I don't know them. But my point being is they did. They're the first people that did like concerts where there was like kinetic energy with the dance floor.
[00:10:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: Powering the stage.
[00:10:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:36] Speaker A: They're the first ones that aren't going on airborne three like triple decker, double decker buses.
[00:10:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:43] Speaker A: Airbuses with all their equipment. Like they're actually putting the money where their mouths is when it comes to, you know, hip.
[00:10:48] Speaker B: And they've been doing it since before either of us were born.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Not on a scale like this.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Exactly. But what I worked to down the hill was that I think the only per. David Bowie is the only person that can remotely come close to this. But I don't think anyone has reinvented themselves and survived for as long as effectively as Coldplay.
[00:11:10] Speaker B: Totally agree.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: Every single album sounds completely different to the last album.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: Totally.
[00:11:14] Speaker A: But yeah, still sounds like Coldplay, which I think in itself very difficult to do. Is insanely difficult to do.
[00:11:19] Speaker B: Sure.
[00:11:20] Speaker A: They. They've got B sides from 1994.
They were called somewhat like Butterfly something.
It was something like that when they met a uni. My point being is no one has done that.
[00:11:31] Speaker B: No.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: For what, 30 years?
[00:11:32] Speaker B: No, not at all.
[00:11:33] Speaker A: And there's going to be a lot of die hard Bowie fans out there and I would love to hear what they think. But I still don't think Bowie's done that. Bowie's like. When you think of that, you think Bowie. And I don't think he's done it for as long as effectively. No, it's Coldplay.
[00:11:46] Speaker B: No, not at all.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Every one of those albums has been number one, basically.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: Agreed.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: And ironically they're still number one now. And I don't like any of the new stuff. I think it's pretty garbage. A lot of the new stuff, totally valid but still huge. How are a bunch of 50 year old white dudes making pop music? That's actually what young people are listening to.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: Totally.
[00:12:04] Speaker A: And that doesn't sound. I mean I don't like it but it doesn't sound like age, does it? No, it doesn't sound like. It's not like when Take that. I love to take that. Take that back on tour. By the way, they're doing the Circus. Me and James are going anyway when Take that released a couple of tunes a couple of years ago. They remember these days.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: That was a tune.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: But then like anything they've ever tried done since is a bit like.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: You see the memes about Gary's son.
[00:12:25] Speaker A: Yeah, you mean. You mean he's.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: Because he's a giant. Yeah, yeah.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: But anyway.
[00:12:30] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: Anyway. My music music board entry.
[00:12:32] Speaker B: What's your music board entry?
[00:12:33] Speaker A: My music board entry is Dominic Swipe them. Not yet. Next time, Dominic. Fs Rocket.
[00:12:40] Speaker B: Let me hear it.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: Don't work like that.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Your review. Yeah, that's what I meant for sure.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Do you know what? I've. It's very fresh to me. I've listened to it top to bottom once.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:12:51] Speaker A: So I always like to give a little review and then go back. She ain't paying attention.
[00:12:54] Speaker B: How many tunes?
[00:12:56] Speaker A: There ain't many. Those. We have a look for us, Dominic. I think it's 12 like standard. Standard.
But I'm gonna go three and a half stars.
[00:13:04] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:13:04] Speaker A: Which isn't amazing. And Dominic fights one of my favorite artists to be fair.
[00:13:08] Speaker B: Just did its job.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: First listen, couple of songs sprung out and I'm gonna go back in and I always try and like not sell out Ariana Grande. I always hold space for a second listen.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: So are you. These so good that you're going to be covering any of them you think first?
[00:13:23] Speaker A: Probably, yeah. Great Pretend is a great tune. The song called Great Pretender on there.
[00:13:27] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: But yeah, anyway.
[00:13:29] Speaker B: Okay, cool.
[00:13:29] Speaker A: Love it. Well, we aren't going to do too much new stuff today so I guess we just do our letterbox intros.
[00:13:34] Speaker B: Go on. You go first because I can't remember. Oh, I remember but you go first.
[00:13:37] Speaker A: So my letterbox intro is caught stealing the new Austin Butler Film Zoe Kravitz. And. Well, everyone's in it. There's loads of people in it.
Winston Wilson Fisk's in it.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: You do.
I can't remember I directed it.
[00:13:51] Speaker A: I'm saying that.
[00:13:52] Speaker B: Darren Aronofsky.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Thank you.
And my very quick review of this, which I put on my letter box ironically, is this film is literally if Guy Ritchie was born and raised in the Bronx.
[00:14:02] Speaker B: Great pick. Did you come up with that? Did you?
[00:14:04] Speaker A: I genuinely did come up with that.
[00:14:05] Speaker B: Great. Because that's a great way to tell.
[00:14:07] Speaker A: Watch it. It feels like Snatch in New York.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Love it.
[00:14:09] Speaker A: It's the pacing of it. The. The chaotic. The chaoticism.
[00:14:13] Speaker B: Snatching New York make a great band name.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:14:14] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we are Snatching New York.
[00:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:18] Speaker B: Our first song, Caught Stealing.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Actually, it worked. But yeah, the cast is just like. Yeah, just like I. Richie Films cast is stellar.
[00:14:26] Speaker B: Yeah, you got to have a stack cast.
[00:14:27] Speaker A: There's all. There's like loads of different open quotes, gang groups that are all like, after one bloke or whatever.
Is a Guy Ritchie film.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it is.
[00:14:34] Speaker A: And Austin Butler. Now, to be fair, I really enjoyed the Elvis film. Everyone kind of memed him for and he. He probably had an argument for the Oscar for it, but I can't remember who won it, but he was well and truly beaten, I think that year.
[00:14:47] Speaker B: That was lilz.
[00:14:48] Speaker A: Will you google for me who won the Oscar the year that Austin Butler was in Elvis?
[00:14:51] Speaker B: I think it was the Whale. I think it was Brendan Fraser. The whale.
[00:14:54] Speaker A: Yes. Good shout.
[00:14:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:55] Speaker A: But. But anyway, my point being is I never didn't rate Austin Butler.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:14:58] Speaker A: But my God, is he good in this?
[00:15:00] Speaker B: Good. And doom too. Don't forget.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: Amazing. He is. Yeah. But like this, this film, as much as the cast is amazing. Was it the whale?
[00:15:07] Speaker B: Good shout. Yeah.
[00:15:08] Speaker C: Come on.
[00:15:09] Speaker A: As much as the cast was amazing, it could have just been him and it was brilliant.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: Nice. Love it.
[00:15:13] Speaker A: Zoe Kravitz was really good as well, to be fair. But anyway, I. It's. I think I gave it five stars.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: I can't remember, but I can't wait to see it.
[00:15:18] Speaker A: Absolutely amazing. And it was a proper cinema experience. And I watched it on my own. First time I've been cinema on my own in ages. This left me.
[00:15:23] Speaker B: She was on. She was busy and me left you.
[00:15:25] Speaker A: Yeah, and you were busy. These left me.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: I want to watch it. You've well and truly sold it to me.
[00:15:31] Speaker A: Brilliant. And again, soundtrack. Amazing.
[00:15:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:33] Speaker A: You know, Guy Ritchie's stuff's Always very like. And because it's set in the 90s, it's all very like. Do you remember when Captain Marvel came out? It was all like Nirvana and it.
[00:15:40] Speaker B: Was 90s of the time.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: It was very like that.
[00:15:43] Speaker B: My entry, my letterbox music entry also has a great soundtrack.
[00:15:47] Speaker A: Your letterbox music entry.
[00:15:49] Speaker B: I meant because the music's really good. My letterbox entry of the week.
[00:15:52] Speaker A: Right, Go for it.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Is also a 25 year old movie. Nearly Bend it like Beckham, which it could have been so many because I went through my letterbox and I've watched 194 films in the last week.
[00:16:03] Speaker A: You've watched Bend It Labeckham this week?
[00:16:05] Speaker B: I watched Bennett Beckham this week and I actually watched by the same director, Bride and Prejudice. They did a Bollywood version. Dan wanted to watch it. Surprisingly, it was very good. But I'm not seeing Ben Dylan Beckham in forever.
Like you love a sport film, even if it's not my sport.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: I'd watch a chess buy up.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. You should watch Queen's Gambit then. I guess if that's for you watched it not. I've not seen it since year nine English, so a long time.
It's a stellar, stellar movie.
[00:16:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: I don't know if it won any awards at all, like a bafta, whatever. But the acting in it I think is so good. The way it mixes a lot of heavy themes. Like you talk about a film in the early 2000s when things are not so collaborative, even though they're not even like that now. But between like Hindus, Sikhs, white people, women and footballers.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: This film.
[00:16:55] Speaker B: Yeah, to be fair, 100%. They're mixing a lot of different stuff. Oh, it did. Thank you. So it won what best.
I can't quite see it from there. When it won sb okay, so won a sports. That's the ESPN award. So it won a couple things, as it should have done. But I think it's picking on a lot of. Like when this one pitched it to the studio and said, I want to do movie about women's football, about marginalized like smaller groups of people and minority women's football minorities. They would have gone, that sounds terrible. Put Keira Knightley in it and maybe it'll be good. And the film's great. Yeah, the film is really good. Like. And I think as well, one thing I know you hate more than anything in a sports movie.
[00:17:38] Speaker A: I thought you were going to say minority playing sport. Then I was like, no, no, the.
[00:17:41] Speaker B: Thing you hate and certainly I hate as well. But certainly because of the kind of movies you're watching. I'm not bad sport in movies.
[00:17:47] Speaker A: They can't play football.
[00:17:48] Speaker B: This. I googled it after because I was like. They were pretty good. All the women bar. Obviously the two main actors were pro footballers. Women footballers. And I assume they put Keira Knightley and the main actress whose name I forgot through rigorous football. Because although they do like the close ups where it could be anyone's feet. Yeah.
[00:18:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:04] Speaker B: It's really good. Because I hate even. I agree. When those movies. When you watch Ted Lasso. Because you go this is not no point. Am I convinced you guys are professional players in this. They really do a good job.
Everyone can play ball. Interesting.
And it's just a good story.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: I. It's kind of funny you said that because. And it's. Good job Lilz is on the mic for this because if she's paying attention. You look like you're asleep then, sweetheart.
[00:18:30] Speaker B: I was.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: Anyway. In the. In Stretford Mall, which we are above.
I mean. No, we're not. I mean we're supposed to reveal our location. I don't know. But whatever they did. Do you remember?
[00:18:44] Speaker B: It was.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: So what was the organization called?
[00:18:46] Speaker B: Those.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: It was like a girl. It was called Girl Gang or something.
[00:18:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
Or Girl Gang. I think they're a theater company in Manchester.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Doing like getting.
Getting girls and. And females and you know, involved in theater and sport and stuff. They did like a football team.
It was a really. It's a really cool organization or whatever.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: And they did a huge event in the mall.
[00:19:10] Speaker B: Right.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: For Bend it like Beckham. So it was a live immersive theater performance of the film.
[00:19:15] Speaker B: That's cool.
[00:19:16] Speaker A: They gave out New Balancer in partnership of it. They gave everyone free New Balance.
Me and Lil's got a free pair of New Balance boots. They're both worth 150 quid that we've never worn.
[00:19:24] Speaker B: That's really sick.
[00:19:25] Speaker A: It was. It was really cool and it was. But what was really good was they did like a panel and stuff. Because it did. Obviously. Now again, they were kind of teaching me there because I probably watched the film when it came out when I was 8 or whatever. But I'd never seen it since. But.
But obviously you can imagine what that film did for young Muslim girls. You know, never mind. Just young girls.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: Dan said she watched it also in her school. I can believe that before me. So it must have been pretty Monument. Must have been on the curriculum.
[00:19:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: That they watch and went. Schools should be watching this movie because it seemed powering. Yeah. Because when I went on the letterbox review for it, loads of them were. Did everyone else also watch this in high school in the 2000s? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In primary school in the 2000s. So.
[00:20:03] Speaker A: So you know what? I'm going to segue a little bit because we were talking about schools. I saw something that rattled my brain today and made me feel fossil.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: Oh, God, I don't want to hear it.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: So I saw someone post it and they said two or three things.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: The Harlem Shake's 15 years old.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Just wait, you're not far off what I'm about to say.
[00:20:21] Speaker B: Oh, go on.
[00:20:22] Speaker A: So these what I'm about to list off.
[00:20:26] Speaker B: Oh, I hate.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: These are things that the current Year seven group that have just started because we're in September are older than. Younger than the things the current Year Sevens are younger than.
[00:20:35] Speaker B: Go on, read the list.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Harlem Shake.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: Oh, great. Fair.
[00:20:38] Speaker A: Frozen.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: GTA 5, first Avengers film, 2012 event. Call me maybe Carly Rae Jepsen, the Dark Knight Rises. The end of the trilogy.
Flappy Bird, which you mentioned in the last episode. What does the Fox say? Remember that?
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Yeah, very well.
[00:20:56] Speaker A: PlayStation 4 and Xbox One.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: That's disgusting. I'm still on that as well.
[00:21:00] Speaker A: Sickening. I'm still on mine.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Graham.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: Gangnam Style.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:03] Speaker A: Raw by Katy Perry. Get Lucky by Daft Punk and Pharrell. The Voice UK as a franchise.
Candy Crush.
Breaking Bad's final season.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:21:13] Speaker A: Mumford and Sons again. We touched on Somebody that I Used to Know by Goitier.
The death of Nelson Mandela, the London Olympics and the End of the world in the Mayan calendar.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: What a belter of a list.
I am ancient.
[00:21:28] Speaker A: I am old as fuck.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: Some of them weren't surprising. I would not go, oh, my gosh, Nelson Mandela already. No, I know it already feels like forever ago, but mate. But some of those other ones, though, that's surprising. The fact you've been. You're in year seven. You can't wait for doomsday. You weren't even alive. You were in your dad's scrotum when he was watching the last. The first Avengers is mental.
[00:21:49] Speaker A: Your dad might have not been allowed into the cinema when that first came out.
[00:21:53] Speaker B: It's crazy. It could be put it this way.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: These. Most of these are 2012, 2025, not 13. Most year 11 is year 11 and most year sevens are 11.
[00:22:00] Speaker B: That's.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: So I think some of these are still being generous.
[00:22:03] Speaker B: Yeah, they are.
[00:22:04] Speaker A: That made me.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: I remember a lot of these things.
At the time buying those things or watching the Breaking Bad finale at that time. Or buying gta. Yeah, yeah, that's a horrible list.
[00:22:15] Speaker A: Gross. So I've got another segment for us though.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:22:18] Speaker A: This one's called Keep one or bin one?
[00:22:20] Speaker B: Let me hear it.
[00:22:21] Speaker A: So I'm gonna do five and I'm gonna hand you the iPad and you're gonna do five.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: Cool, let's do it. Go straight in.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: There are Robert Downey jr's Iron man or Hugh Jackman as Wolverine. You gotta keep one, you gotta bin one.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: Bin Iron man, keep Hugh Jackman as Wolverine.
[00:22:36] Speaker A: I love how straight faced that was. And I actually agree.
[00:22:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: Because Hugh Jackman's played that role for.
[00:22:41] Speaker B: Yeah. 25 years, give or take.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: And there's never going to be another.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: Nope.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: Heath Ledger's Joker or James Earl Jones's voice is Vader.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: James Earl Jones Vader. And I'm the biggest joker, guys. You know James L. Jones Vader.
[00:22:53] Speaker A: That's 40 years of Vader, man.
[00:22:54] Speaker B: That's there, you know, that's absolutely.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: Ian McKellen is Gandalf or Bryan Cranston as Walter White.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: Ooh, Bryan Cranston. Walter White. I have to wait. No, it's a bin or as a keep.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: No, these are all to keep.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: Yeah, no, keep, keep, keep, keep.
[00:23:08] Speaker A: So you'd get rid of.
[00:23:09] Speaker B: No, no, the other ones. The other ones I'm still with as well. Yeah, yeah, but I just totally forgot because it free my mind. That's the first difficult one. And he's perfect. What's he called? Who made Ian McKellen? Peter Jackson.
[00:23:18] Speaker A: Peter Jackson. Yeah, Peter Jackson. Delayed Lord of the Rings so that Ian McKellen could be Gandalf.
[00:23:22] Speaker B: And he's perfect. He's perfect.
[00:23:24] Speaker A: I'm surprised by that one.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: I get it by three movies and I guess two and a half hobbits or whatever. But yeah, when you eventually watch it and go, my God, I guess IMDb was right when they said it's the best show ever made. Yeah, you'll go. Bryan Cranston's the only one who could play that. The man's got an Oscar nom.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: Robin Williams is Genie or Tom Hanks is Woody.
[00:23:43] Speaker B: Tom Hanks. Woody. I would keep. I would say.
[00:23:45] Speaker A: I really struggle with that one.
[00:23:46] Speaker B: That is a hard one though. And it's not.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: I'm obviously not going to answer these. You know what?
[00:23:50] Speaker B: No. Because Jim Carrey could have done, I think, just as good a job as Genie because he's got that same sort of. But he didn't I guess Robin Williams is genie man.
[00:23:59] Speaker A: I mean, Will Smith couldn't do with the genie.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: No, I mean, he thought he was fine, but yeah, he couldn't. These are good one, though. What else you got?
[00:24:05] Speaker A: That your last one is Laurence Fishburne's Morpheus or Keanu Reeves as Neo.
[00:24:10] Speaker B: Ooh, Keanu Reeves. Neo. You got to keep. Because there's a lot of cool black guys with cool voices who could play.
[00:24:17] Speaker A: Absolutely true. And I actually agree with you. But I also think it's a bit of a double ended. So that question. Because when they did the new Matrix film, there was no Morpheus.
[00:24:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it was.
[00:24:25] Speaker A: It was shit.
[00:24:25] Speaker B: It was. It's one of the few films I've ever stopped halfway and I never do that. I did stop till halfway. I did that with Moana too, as well. Barbins.
[00:24:33] Speaker A: Moana too, did you say?
[00:24:34] Speaker B: Did the same thing.
[00:24:35] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:35] Speaker A: I can believe that.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: All right, where are we going from? Let me see the list. Okay, I've got it. Yeah, I've got it.
[00:24:38] Speaker A: I can't remember what.
[00:24:39] Speaker B: Wait, can I not give my opinion then? Or is it just me to read out to you?
[00:24:42] Speaker A: You can do what I just did, I guess.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: Okay. All right, keep it going then.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: Keep one bim one.
[00:24:46] Speaker B: Christian Bale as Batman or Tobey Maguire as Spider Man?
[00:24:50] Speaker A: Oh, I hate that. And they both got trilogies.
[00:24:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
I'm saying keep Toby.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: I'm struggling there because Toby's my Spider man, but I still to this day think Christian Bale's portrayed the best Batman.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: He's not my Batman, but I'm the biggest fan of that.
[00:25:07] Speaker A: Which one are you?
[00:25:08] Speaker B: Kevin Conroy.
[00:25:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah.
[00:25:09] Speaker B: The old animated.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: And Arkham.
[00:25:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: Which is a bit of a cop.
[00:25:13] Speaker A: Out, but because this is the thing I get. Batman law is quite deep and I'm just not about that life.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: Yeah, and I am.
[00:25:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I know, but. And I get that people don't think Batman's the most Christian Bales is the most comic, accurate or whatever.
[00:25:23] Speaker B: No, he's not.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: That was really special. I'm going to say Toby though.
[00:25:26] Speaker B: Toby. Keep Toby. Come on. Have we been the same on all these so far?
[00:25:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: That's very yours in it.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: Harrison Ford. Indiana Jones or Harrison Ford as Han Solo. This is a great one.
[00:25:35] Speaker A: I really. I hated that one. I don't know.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: I'd say only because he did it more. You got to keep him as Indiana Jones.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: He did. I don't think Indiana Jones would have.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: Carried Sean Connery's his dad. Shia LaBeouf's his son.
[00:25:49] Speaker A: Could any. Can you really. I don't think any other actor could have carried that.
[00:25:52] Speaker B: Not that I can think of.
[00:25:53] Speaker A: You know what, you've helped me there because I think Han Solo is a more iconic character. I really.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: It is a more iconic.
[00:25:57] Speaker A: I think that franchise would have survived without Han Solo.
[00:26:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Or at least with someone else playing Han Solo.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: Indiana Jones is another white guy. Could have done it.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: Basically. Everyone else in those films changes, but.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: And they still carry. And now they made one, what, a year or two ago.
[00:26:11] Speaker B: So this next one's a great one. Chris Evans as Captain America. Henry Cavill as Superman.
Okay. You got to keep Chris Evans.
[00:26:19] Speaker A: It's got to be Chris Evans. Gotta be Cap.
[00:26:20] Speaker B: You've gotta keep. I really like the feel, the acting. You look and go, that's Captain America. Because he looks so like, handsome.
[00:26:30] Speaker A: Prim and proper as well. What is it that fucking Tony Stark says to him where he's like, everything.
[00:26:36] Speaker B: About you unique came from out of bottle. No.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: I feel like I want to punch.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: You in your perfect teeth.
[00:26:41] Speaker A: That's it. Yeah. And I also. I'm feeling it's from a different film, but like, I feel like Captain America wakes up and he pisses excellence.
[00:26:48] Speaker B: What's that as well? Yeah, that's a great one.
[00:26:50] Speaker A: We're going anyway.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Don't ask.
Two left. Tom Cruise, Ethan Hunt or Keanu Reeves as John Wick.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: This one, I struggle.
[00:26:57] Speaker B: I know you're going to say Ethan Hunt and I think that's the right answer.
[00:26:59] Speaker A: I am, because I love John Wick and I raises John Wick. But Ethan Hunt, that last Mission Impossible film, really won over.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: There's also. There's a lot more acting that he does. Yeah. Than Canary's done as John Wick.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: I think if John Wick had ended after one, I think it still would have been the best standalone film ever. But four or five of them. Pushing it a bit.
[00:27:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, next one. Another tough one. But Daniel Craig as James Bond or Matt Damon as Jason Bourne. This was a good. This was a good set of this, all that.
[00:27:30] Speaker A: I think you got to Craig. Daniel Craig.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: It is Daniel Craig.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: If I was American, maybe I'd say something different. But Daniel Craig has been by far the best James Bond we've ever had.
[00:27:36] Speaker B: Because the perfect mix is he has to be rough enough where he looked like he can fight, but also he can fit in a ballroom. And too often the Bonds, they're too good looking. You go, pierce Bronson can't throw Hands. Do you know what I mean?
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: When you look at Craig and go, he fits in when they're in a bare knuckle boxes. But he can fight. He can fight.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: He sleeps in a cage.
[00:27:58] Speaker B: He sleeps in a cage.
[00:27:58] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:27:59] Speaker B: And he fights his demons and his nightmares in his head and that's all he's got to do is a good bond. You know what I mean?
[00:28:05] Speaker A: Amazing.
[00:28:06] Speaker B: Well, that was a great list.
[00:28:08] Speaker A: So we're going to.
[00:28:08] Speaker B: We're going to go straight into the next segment.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: Straight into the next segment.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: So introduce.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: I want to. I do want to shout out before we say it because I feel like.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: Yeah, we ripped.
[00:28:16] Speaker A: It's too on the nose.
[00:28:17] Speaker B: It is.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: I'm a big fan of the skate podcast.
[00:28:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
Not always their opinions though because yeah.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: They'Ve got some wild takes that are just.
[00:28:24] Speaker B: Andrew's favorite movies are Avengers 1 and Greatest Showman and I despise both of those movies.
[00:28:31] Speaker A: Hat guy said the other day that Loki, the she Hulk.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: Is as good as end game.
[00:28:36] Speaker B: I think they do this for views.
We don't do that. You know why? We're authentic.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: We're authentic.
[00:28:42] Speaker B: We wouldn't lie like that and say something so stupid like Madame Web is the best comic book movie ever.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: I watched 10 minutes that the other day and I had to turn it off.
[00:28:49] Speaker B: Did you not finish it and.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Cause I didn't finish it.
[00:28:51] Speaker B: Wish you would have finished it. It gets.
I can't tell you how much worse the movie gets.
[00:28:55] Speaker A: No, but I told you I turned it on when it was in the last 20 minutes. Oh. So it was at peak awful.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: The villain dies because he jumps into a flying car. He's. The car wasn't going to hit him. He jumps up then gets hit by the car.
[00:29:09] Speaker A: I was going to ask. No, I actually don't want to talk about it because I hate it so much.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: Keep it going.
[00:29:13] Speaker A: Anyway. So they do agree or disagree. They do some pretty hot topics. And here we have.
[00:29:18] Speaker B: Sam's got us a nice little agree disagree, disagree card.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: So for our audio listeners once we've shown it we'll. We'll declare what we've said.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: We'll say at the same time as well. We'll go agree this great. And then we'll discuss.
[00:29:29] Speaker A: Absolutely. So we've got. From the help of some listeners. Yeah, we've got some music. Loads really across pop culture. They're supposed to be generally.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: What does the bottom one say? Freebies.
[00:29:42] Speaker A: You can't really see. I can't say fashion.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: I think fashion.
[00:29:46] Speaker A: They're supposed to be generally. What's the word?
Controversial.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:29:50] Speaker A: So, I mean, I don't know whether that's for us. I don't know what. So, Lil's, you're gonna step in for us right now. Read them out for us. You can take a. Take a pic for a few.
And we'll say at the same time, three, two, one. Agree or disagree. And then we'll have a look if we need discussion.
[00:30:05] Speaker B: If we need to discuss. Because someone will go disagree, and we'll move on.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:30:08] Speaker B: Cool.
[00:30:08] Speaker A: Hit us with it, Lilz.
[00:30:09] Speaker B: Agree or disagree? Let's go.
[00:30:11] Speaker C: Post Malone is this generation's Kurt Cobain.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: I'm gonna say disagree.
[00:30:18] Speaker B: Disagree.
[00:30:20] Speaker A: I really like Post Malone.
[00:30:21] Speaker B: Don't hate on him. He's not. He's not.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: Do you know what, though? I'm. I've gone. I've done like the opposite of every Post Malone fan. I feel I'm a fan of him now.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, No, I like him more now than when he was a rapper.
[00:30:30] Speaker A: I mean, talking about from like, you know, when Stay came out from there onwards.
[00:30:33] Speaker B: I get it.
[00:30:34] Speaker A: I liked him, but he's not. And I really like the guy. Yeah, mate, you can't.
[00:30:38] Speaker B: No, you can't. You can't. Next.
[00:30:41] Speaker C: Drake is the most influential rapper of the 21st century.
[00:30:47] Speaker B: Yeah. No, it's a. It's a. Disagree.
[00:30:49] Speaker A: Disagree.
[00:30:49] Speaker B: He's close. He's close.
[00:30:51] Speaker A: No, do you know what? I don't. I don't think he is because I.
[00:30:53] Speaker B: Will say, because it's not Jay Z.
[00:30:55] Speaker A: It's not any Kanye West, Lil Wayne. Yeah, but Wayne is even just them two. There's. There's a reason why every fucking rapper now is called Lil Something. It is a little way true. And. And every rapper wanted to be Kanye West.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: This is true. Both of those are above him.
[00:31:10] Speaker A: So no, I guess technically changed everything. Drake does whatever's the trend. And that's why I don't. Yeah, I'm not having that shout out.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: Hannah.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:31:18] Speaker C: So Harry Styles is the new David Bowie.
[00:31:22] Speaker B: But I think he's just the first himself. I'm gonna say disagree. I'm gonna say agree, but I'm gonna say disagree. For a good reason, though, because he's his own thing.
He's sonically better. He sounds, I think, way better than David Bowie. Yeah, I think. I think so.
[00:31:35] Speaker C: There's a star.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: You're gonna get pulled.
[00:31:40] Speaker A: She always does it for too long.
I'm only gonna say agree because I think David Bowie was really good for, like, his whole appearance. How he's it embodies characters. He was playing and dressed very androgynously.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: I see the similarities.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: We live in a society now where you got 50 year old men that are like annoyed at Sam Smith for dressing the way they want to dress.
[00:32:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:00] Speaker A: And then loved David Bowie and Freddie Mercury also.
[00:32:02] Speaker B: All their favorite 80s rock icons had like wore makeup and had big curly hair.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: So I just, I don't get it.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Me. They saw Def Lepp and went, that is. That is the straightest thing ever.
[00:32:12] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:32:13] Speaker B: And then nowadays and they see someone dressed like that, they go woke nonsense. Woke nonsense.
[00:32:18] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:19] Speaker C: Anyway, next 1k pop has surpassed all other genres to become the most popular globally. Yeah.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: I mean it is a disagree obviously, because that's a very loaded question. It's very much been put on and is now a lot higher.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: The numbers are though.
[00:32:34] Speaker B: Numbers are probably way up there.
Way up there. It's not then by that question. No, obviously disagree.
[00:32:41] Speaker A: I actually did see that. I'm gonna say disagree. Yeah. I did see the other day actually. Rap and R B is like by far.
[00:32:47] Speaker B: They've been the same job. They've been the top four.
[00:32:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Considering pop is supposed to be popular.
[00:32:52] Speaker B: Yeah, no, they've been. Yeah. Go on. Next.
Daniel.
[00:32:58] Speaker C: Physical media will return and fully replace streaming in 20 years.
[00:33:03] Speaker A: Well, that's totally. That's.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: I'm gonna say I said disagree.
[00:33:06] Speaker A: I'm nice, but I think that's two different.
Two different things though. I do think physical Media is going to return, but it's not going to.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: Not going to replace. No, people still like buying physical. I mean look around here.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: Yeah. There's physical material saying a lot about it recently.
[00:33:18] Speaker B: It'll never be, it'll never replace.
[00:33:20] Speaker A: And if you've. Only if you've seen iRobot, you know, you've got to keep CD players knocking around. Yeah.
[00:33:25] Speaker C: Quentin Tarantino is overrated.
[00:33:27] Speaker A: Oh, disagree.
[00:33:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm going to disagree.
[00:33:30] Speaker A: Strong disagree.
[00:33:30] Speaker B: I think properly rated.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:32] Speaker B: He's considered one of the best alive directors behind Nolan and maybe one or two others. Yeah. So I think properly rated.
[00:33:40] Speaker A: I mean don't get me wrong, properly rated. I do think Once upon a time in Hollywood. I've said before on this podcast, I think it's a great film, but I think it could have been a ten times better film.
[00:33:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:33:48] Speaker A: I think if he wasn't trying so hard to be so clever.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: But yeah, no, I agree. It's not my fault. Favorite.
[00:33:51] Speaker A: No, not overrated. Go on.
[00:33:53] Speaker C: The Oscars don't matter anymore.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: I disagree because I think they do matter, but they. They don't. They're not everything.
[00:34:03] Speaker A: I don't think often I'm gonna say agree because I don't think they matter culturally anymore.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: Also, I realized the list of the 21, the 200, the 100 best movies of the 21st century. Yes. New York Times. We'll save it for next one.
[00:34:16] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:34:16] Speaker B: Because I've got some bits to speak on.
[00:34:18] Speaker A: I'm not going to go.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: We'll really deep dive it.
[00:34:20] Speaker A: Yeah, totally.
[00:34:21] Speaker B: That's a good one. Next one.
[00:34:25] Speaker C: Marvel movies killed cinema.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: No, disagree. That's a bit controversial, though, on it. James Gunn said it, bad movies kill cinema. And really no.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: Economy kills bad kill. He said bad movies killed the Marvel Cinematic Universe. He didn't say it killed cinema.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: Rising prices and inflation killed cinema.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Disagree.
[00:34:44] Speaker B: More than anything else.
[00:34:44] Speaker A: I think wasn't. You can. You shouldn't be annoyed at someone's success for ruining the standard. No, realistically, it raised the standard, of course.
[00:34:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:34:53] Speaker A: And raising the hype and standard.
Why would you hate someone for that?
[00:34:57] Speaker B: Why would you hate someone for that? Exactly.
[00:34:59] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:34:59] Speaker B: Go on.
[00:35:00] Speaker C: Streaming has ruined the magic of films.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: I'm gonna say. I agree to that, actually, because I love.
[00:35:06] Speaker B: We'll also give it a great. To that. There's a big cinephile cinema, I think.
[00:35:10] Speaker C: For the next generation as well. Like, they. All they know is streaming services, which kind of just blows my mind.
[00:35:16] Speaker A: And it's a bit annoying as well. Like, when you get people. I mean, don't get me wrong, I do it as well when you get films that you're not, like, you're excited for, but you're not buzzing for. And you're like, I'll just wait till it comes out soon because it'll only be a month. You used to have to wait.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: Like, would you remember watching the same video on DVD a hundred thousand times as a kid? You didn't have the choice, but you monologue it and now you go, well, I'll just go watch. You would not. You're not rinsing the same film 100 times as a kid. Yeah, that's a good one, though. What's next?
[00:35:41] Speaker C: Pixar has better filmography than Disney Animation.
[00:35:46] Speaker B: Oh, 100% agree.
[00:35:48] Speaker A: Wait, wait, wait. Let me just go.
[00:35:49] Speaker B: If you go through Pixar's list, they don't. Since the mid-90s, they don't actually ever miss.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: Because I was thinking of Dreamworks for a second, but that is the bigger.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Flops they have are always on Disney's side, like Elliot or Whatever that is. Or the bigger ones they've had where they go miss.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: Is it. Is it a little bit misleading though? Because Disney went first. Disney was. Disney was pumping out for 80 years.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Before Pixar came about. Exactly.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: When Pixar came about with a new form of animation.
[00:36:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Well they. The first one for Pixar was Toy Story and it was just a different like group doing those under Disney's umbrella.
[00:36:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:23] Speaker B: I mean I think they are better. 100.
[00:36:25] Speaker C: Okay. Last one on film and TV is the Office. US is the most rewatchable show of all time.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: The most easy to jump to. Yes. Agree for that.
[00:36:37] Speaker B: But I'm struggling to think of something else that I'm gonna go is that I'm like disagree.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Can I go half.
[00:36:44] Speaker B: Half is right.
[00:36:45] Speaker A: Because I would say Modern Family for.
[00:36:47] Speaker B: Me I would say the Simpsons is. Is all time just as rewatchable.
[00:36:50] Speaker A: Good shout.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: Because there's a million different. There's literally 700 episodes.
[00:36:55] Speaker A: I do think for me though.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: But it is a.
[00:36:57] Speaker A: The Office in Modern Family. I would. I can watch top to bottom again.
[00:37:00] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: I've done probably tenfold.
[00:37:03] Speaker C: Okay. I'm just gonna spew out some random ones.
[00:37:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:05] Speaker B: Give us a run.
[00:37:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:37:06] Speaker C: Go for it. Virgil Abloh has more cultural impact than anyone else within fashion.
[00:37:12] Speaker A: Within fashion.
I'm biased.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: It's a disagree. Because anyone else in fashion is crazy. Because he never reached his peak. He only lived till he was in his. Not even middle age.
[00:37:22] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah.
[00:37:23] Speaker B: Where there's people who were. Giorgio Armani just died at 90. Whatever.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Don't do well swatches around Gucci's.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: I think to say he's the most is too overbearing. Too biased. It's too bad if he lived his whole life.
[00:37:36] Speaker A: Maybe I think maybe like maybe when I think his cultural impact hit completely different because it was a completely. And I don't even mean demographic. I mean like it hit all. Everyone we've just named was high street fashion. That's hit.
[00:37:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:50] Speaker A: People with money.
[00:37:51] Speaker B: Truly true.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: Virgil Abloh was for. For like normal people.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: This is true.
[00:37:56] Speaker A: And I think he made fashion cool.
[00:37:58] Speaker B: 100.
Yeah.
[00:37:59] Speaker C: Okay. Street wear over Runway.
[00:38:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:03] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Agreed.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: I'm right. I ain't walking around in piss stained jeans.
[00:38:07] Speaker B: That's a real one. Not even an example.
[00:38:09] Speaker A: Not an example.
[00:38:10] Speaker B: Go check out our lowest episode.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Exactly.
[00:38:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: That's funny.
[00:38:12] Speaker C: LeBron James is better than Michael Jordan ever was.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: It's obviously it's a grie.
[00:38:19] Speaker A: Can. Can you just remind me how many rings LeBron James has?
[00:38:24] Speaker B: Don't try and get into the. Sound like you're. Just tell me six versus four.
[00:38:28] Speaker A: Michael Jones got four.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: No, Michael's got six.
LeBron's got four.
[00:38:32] Speaker A: MJ, baby.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: Yeah. You're a Ronaldo guy. And Ronaldo's got Lesbound.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: I'm joking. I'm joking. It's LeBron. It's LeBron.
[00:38:38] Speaker B: If you actually think it's Michael, please me. And if you do think it's Michael, I either assume you're over the age of 45. Fair enough. Nostalgia. Or you don't know ball.
[00:38:49] Speaker A: Fair.
[00:38:50] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean?
[00:38:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, totally.
[00:38:51] Speaker B: That's fine.
[00:38:53] Speaker A: LeBron could be literally 20% less as good of a player. But the fact he's still doing it.
[00:38:57] Speaker B: Now, the stats I've got in my memory, why I don't remember anything every day.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:03] Speaker B: Is because it's filled with movie facts and LeBron statistics and facts. So if someone went over, tried to come at. Yeah, but why is he not better at. I go, well, it's not because of this year when he did this, at this series of this. Do you know what I mean? So, no. If you think. If you think Michael's better, you don't know Ball.
More culturally relevant 100%. That's Jordan.
[00:39:23] Speaker A: Different question, though, innit?
[00:39:24] Speaker B: People aren't.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: That's a different question.
[00:39:25] Speaker B: People aren't getting killed for a pair of LeBrons.
[00:39:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:28] Speaker B: People are still getting their Jordans robbed. Yeah. Do you know what I mean?
[00:39:31] Speaker A: Different metric, though. We'll allow it.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:33] Speaker C: Okay. Fast fashion is killing creativity.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: Oh, that's a big time agree.
[00:39:38] Speaker A: Big time agree.
[00:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:39:40] Speaker C: Okay. We'll go straight in with the next one. Crocs went from ugly to cool.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: I mostly disagree. I don't think they're ever cool.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: I think some people make crocs look really cool.
[00:39:48] Speaker A: I do not. Yeah, listen, I know. Yeezy runners are basically posh crocs.
[00:39:53] Speaker B: Crocs have got a new runner out and they look like Yeezy runners and.
[00:39:56] Speaker A: They'Re really fresh and maybe I'll go for that.
[00:39:57] Speaker B: Maybe they will.
[00:39:59] Speaker C: Okay.
The Olympics are outdated and irrelevant.
[00:40:04] Speaker A: That sounds harsh.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Disagree.
Disagree.
[00:40:10] Speaker A: I'm gonna say disagree because we are a bit of a. We're a bit spoiled in the west, aren't we? In the sense that when the Olympics just like when the World cup or the. When they go to countries that don't get global things like that.
[00:40:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: Fucking huge.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:25] Speaker A: I mean, to be. And to be fair, I remember hearing a few comedians talking about it a while Ago, I think it's on Mott the Week because I watched a rerun when the 2012 Olympics came out. Before, everyone was like, I'm just giving shit this. Then it came out, everyone was like, fucking hell. The Olympics are class.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: So, yeah. No, no, they're not outdated.
[00:40:39] Speaker B: No. Just give us.
[00:40:40] Speaker A: There's so many sports that only.
Only exist to hit that pinnacle.
[00:40:44] Speaker B: This is true. Should we do one or two more and then we'll call it?
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Yeah, go on then.
[00:40:49] Speaker C: Okay, so the UFC has overtaken boxing as the largest fight sport.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: It is. And it isn't. Because there's always a few years where someone like Conor will rise and then it'll all go that way. But now he's finished. Jon Jones just retired a lot of their biggest runners, and boxing still has a lot of exciting people.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: Now, on that note, I'm gonna say hard. Disagree. Only because I'm gonna say disagree. If we said this five years ago, different story. Conor McGregor was. I mean, Conor McGregor was doing bigger fights.
[00:41:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:21] Speaker A: Than anyone.
[00:41:22] Speaker B: But now, celebrity boxing and whoever Jake.
[00:41:25] Speaker A: Paul's earning more money than. So whoever the champ at UFC is a couple years ago, maybe, I'm hoping it's not its peak. It didn't peak and die off, though, because I do think UFC is in fucking incredible sport.
[00:41:33] Speaker B: Paddy the Body. Paddy the Body got Liverpool, like, world champ.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: Yeah, man.
[00:41:37] Speaker C: I've got two more for you to get the haters out. Okay, first one. Kim Kardashian is the most influential style icon of the past 20 years.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: Style icon?
[00:41:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Disagree.
[00:41:49] Speaker C: Okay, look, I'm gonna sit here and.
[00:41:51] Speaker A: Say she gained my respect. In the clips I've seen from Ye's documentary. She already had my respect. To be fair, she's gained more of my respect for what she would have had to put.
[00:41:59] Speaker B: I can't call you a style icon if you're not a designer yourself.
[00:42:02] Speaker A: She's never had one original idea, in my eyes.
[00:42:03] Speaker B: No.
[00:42:04] Speaker C: Okay, let's finish on this one.
[00:42:05] Speaker A: Ex husband's more of a style icon.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: 100% in every way.
[00:42:09] Speaker C: And to be fair, Northwest is such an icon, she's probably gonna be more.
[00:42:13] Speaker A: Of an icon than Kim.
[00:42:14] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely bullies her mum, though, just like her ex.
Okay, final one. Friends is actually not funny.
[00:42:22] Speaker A: Oh, hard.
[00:42:23] Speaker C: Agree.
[00:42:24] Speaker A: Friends is not funny.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: Disagree. Friends is funny, but it's not the funniest show. And if it's got a laughing track, there's moments that will make you laugh.
[00:42:33] Speaker A: How many times have we just. We've done a segment on this show talking about I didn't say it was. You said Friends is not funny and it's well overrated.
[00:42:40] Speaker B: No, no, I said the laugh track is terrible.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: You said any show with a laugh track isn't funny.
[00:42:44] Speaker B: I did say that.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: Run it up, clip it up.
[00:42:46] Speaker B: I did say that. But that's fair.
[00:42:48] Speaker A: We've got to do more of those.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: We'll definitely bring that back because that was a really good segment. And we'll throw that through chat GPT and get a couple more or write in on the comments, a couple little ideas.
[00:42:58] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:42:59] Speaker B: Of what you think.
[00:42:59] Speaker A: And we'll give us some controversial hot takes. Yeah, me and Liam can scrap about.
[00:43:03] Speaker B: Exactly. Do you want to close it out?
[00:43:05] Speaker A: Absolutely. So thank you so much for joining us again.
[00:43:08] Speaker B: Episode 27.
[00:43:09] Speaker A: 27. Yeah. And I think from here on, we've got guests incoming.
[00:43:13] Speaker B: Yeah. The next two will be certainly a guest. Two Mancunians.
[00:43:17] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:43:18] Speaker B: One we know.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: One a legend in his own right.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: One a legend in his own right.
[00:43:21] Speaker A: And the other one actually publicly a legend, but different ends of the Mancunian legend spectrum.
[00:43:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:29] Speaker A: We'll leave it there. Spoiler free, eh?
[00:43:31] Speaker B: We'll leave it there.
[00:43:31] Speaker A: Thank you so much for joining us. Check us out on everywhere you know to go. Wherever you consume your brainwashing content, hit us up. Yep, yep. You can find me at Kid Blue Artist. And that right there is Maloney png. Thank you very much.
Good night.
[00:43:57] Speaker C: Welcome to the Feel It Podcast.
