THE FEEL WEIRD PODCAST - OMO 9K - S2EP11

[00:00:11] Speaker A: Right. Welcome back to the Feel Weird podcast. We have not had a guest for ages, have we, Liam? [00:00:15] Speaker B: No, not for this year either. Not this year. [00:00:18] Speaker A: But for episode 21, we're near the end of series two. We had to bring out a big one and I would like you to roll out the red carpet for that. [00:00:24] Speaker B: There we go. Today we're joined by the Grind General, the Hustle heavyweight, the melody Marksman, the Rhythm Ruler, the Mike Maestro, the Afro fusion shooter from gaming playlist to Courtside Anthem he's got hits that slam like dunks at random a sound so sick Call the doctors He's a genre blender vibe sender the O2 rhythm ruler the book of nine author certified mover Dropping dose after dose no fakes and ladders this paperback penman climbs it matters like OSHA he's certified to blow the scene cold as Mr. Freeze yet sharp and keen titan in the game it's time to go up from Bando to arenas he's heating it up. [00:01:01] Speaker A: Breathe, please. [00:01:01] Speaker B: So tell me, what do you want? The cultures on lock bringing the NRG. It's time to talk. Omo9k. [00:01:08] Speaker C: Oh, my gosh. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Come on. [00:01:11] Speaker A: Oh, chat. GBT could never. [00:01:13] Speaker B: No chat GPT. Can you. Can I put the context of that? [00:01:16] Speaker A: You're ready because I'm assuming you would. [00:01:18] Speaker B: Have picked it up. I had to go in one take. [00:01:19] Speaker C: All my songs. That's my discography. [00:01:21] Speaker B: This is literally every song he's done on his thingy. [00:01:25] Speaker C: The first ever song I dropped. [00:01:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:27] Speaker C: Round of applause. [00:01:28] Speaker B: Oh, that was heavy to me. [00:01:30] Speaker C: What a way to roll it out. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:01:31] Speaker A: And that's been the feel with podcast. Thanks for listening. [00:01:35] Speaker B: There we go. We don't mess about with. We do big intros in the show. If you're coming on, you're someone's grandma. You're getting all your accolades put across you for your life. [00:01:43] Speaker A: So fantastic stuff. [00:01:46] Speaker B: I literally did at 2am like a week ago. [00:01:48] Speaker A: It had to be done because we've wanted him on for a very long time. [00:01:50] Speaker B: We've wanted him home on for. For a while now. [00:01:52] Speaker C: So if that description for a long time. [00:01:55] Speaker B: If that description didn't give you everything you wanted to know. We've got a lot to cover today. [00:01:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:01:59] Speaker B: To start off, as per always, we go to Splinter for our question of the week. Splinter's lined up question of the week. [00:02:05] Speaker D: Is what is the best hero versus villain matchup in history Already Sam's gonna. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Have a bobbins answer for this because he discounts all anime calf and your. [00:02:13] Speaker A: 12 year old cartoon. [00:02:14] Speaker B: Shut your mouth. [00:02:15] Speaker A: Who's the best? [00:02:16] Speaker B: The best. [00:02:17] Speaker D: Yeah. So we're talking cartoons, books, heroes, rivalry. [00:02:21] Speaker A: So yeah, I've got one already, but I'm telling. [00:02:24] Speaker B: I could have 20 and I could tell. I could write a thesis on why, but I'm gonna go for the best. [00:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Vader and Luke is an easy one to set the jump. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Did you come at me and then he's picked Vader and Luke? [00:02:36] Speaker B: No, but only because I thought I. [00:02:37] Speaker A: Can'T do every 55 year old. [00:02:38] Speaker B: I'll do a deep cut that only you would know and it would be dry for you and you wouldn't get it and it would be no point. But I had to go. [00:02:43] Speaker A: We're trying to. Comic book fans. You're just gonna go with Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker. My mum knows that one. [00:02:48] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's the reason why isn't the greatest one though? [00:02:51] Speaker B: Because I think apart from being. Before we talk about something in the. [00:02:54] Speaker A: Late 70s now certainly the most iconic. [00:02:58] Speaker B: 81 is the last film when they're together. So we're talking 50 years ago. [00:03:03] Speaker C: I'd argue there's one more iconic though in terms of influence. [00:03:07] Speaker B: Thanos and Tony. [00:03:08] Speaker C: Nah, Goku and Frieza. [00:03:10] Speaker B: This is what I'm saying. He doesn't know who Goku and Frieza are. [00:03:13] Speaker A: Fuck me. That's fine. [00:03:14] Speaker C: We will know that though. [00:03:15] Speaker B: You know who Goku is. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Just stood on a Naruto rug, for God's sakes. [00:03:18] Speaker C: Yeah. I feel like Golden Frieza simply because if you look across visually as well not. Not just even visually, but in walks of life, like athletes, musicians, creatives, they all reference. They do early Dragon Ball Z as inspiration. [00:03:33] Speaker B: I think it's a great one. [00:03:34] Speaker C: So I feel like if we're talking. [00:03:36] Speaker B: Influence, I think that's a great one. [00:03:39] Speaker C: Luke and Vader. It's hard to get it or I don't think either. [00:03:43] Speaker A: I mean. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Go on, Sam. What have you got? I'll take you got. [00:03:45] Speaker A: I'm your father. It's like, come on. I guess iconic wise. So if you both gone for iconic, I'm gonna just go for my favorite. And it's whenever Dr. Doom and Thanos have ever matched up in the comics. [00:03:54] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a sharp one. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Considering Thanos is Mr. Big and Nasty in Marvel. Dr. Doom just rips him out. [00:03:59] Speaker B: Every time he does, he pulls his spine out. [00:04:00] Speaker A: Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. He pulls his spine out. [00:04:03] Speaker B: No, it's a good one. Forgive me, Splinter. [00:04:05] Speaker D: What have you got, I guess mine, like, I think you could, you could go through so many different routes with a question like this. You could do like David versus Goliath is one like. [00:04:14] Speaker B: Oh, you're throwing it way back. [00:04:16] Speaker A: Okay. [00:04:17] Speaker B: Biblical, like big influence. [00:04:19] Speaker D: And I think like with it having best hero to villain matchup, I guess it's having something that's quite balanced as well. So it's like a good fight. So I guess you could do like, I mean Harry and Voldemort is iconic. [00:04:29] Speaker B: I'm a big, I'm a big Harry Potter. [00:04:31] Speaker D: I mean actually, I guess if I was to really pin it down to my favorite, probably Joker and the Batman. I think they are the most. [00:04:37] Speaker B: I should have said that as well. [00:04:38] Speaker A: Yeah, that's so. [00:04:39] Speaker B: No, that's a brilliant one. That's a brilliant one. [00:04:41] Speaker C: I think that one's frustrating dynamic between them. They're like a toxic couple. [00:04:46] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. They secretly love each other. [00:04:48] Speaker C: Like you're gonna fight, you're gonna break up and you're gonna get back together. [00:04:51] Speaker A: It's like the simplest and the most complex matchup, those two. They've both got no powers, no special abilities, and yet they're both. It's such a complex relationship. That's. That's gotta be number one. [00:05:01] Speaker B: You know what? [00:05:02] Speaker D: Only it's been covered for years. I mean the first cartoon probably came out in like the 80s or even earlier. Actually earlier than that in comics before that. So that would probably be my top. [00:05:11] Speaker C: It's probably the most consistent fight across mediums. We're talking like movies, animated games as well. I feel like it's the fight we've probably seen the most, but it's above Goku. [00:05:21] Speaker A: Two Jokers have won the Oscar as well. [00:05:23] Speaker B: They have two. [00:05:25] Speaker D: There's got to be a start with award winning actors for those hero and villains. [00:05:29] Speaker B: Well, because it's a no. It's a no. Met. It comes with a lot when you're playing that character. There's an expectation. You're playing a character who's over 75 years old now as well. [00:05:37] Speaker A: And there's so many different variations. [00:05:38] Speaker B: There's so many variations, but the core of it, people know within two seconds. Yeah, he's nailed it. Or he's done a bobbin's job. [00:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah. That's why I thought loads of respect for Joaquin Phoenix when he did it in just the Joker film. Because for Heath Ledger to win the Oscar as the Joker and everyone's go, no one can touch that role again. Yeah. And then he walks in and wins the Oscar with such an incredible performance in itself. [00:05:56] Speaker C: And then the second time to start singing. [00:05:58] Speaker A: Oh, my. [00:05:59] Speaker B: Have you seen it? [00:06:00] Speaker C: Of course not. [00:06:01] Speaker A: I'm glad we're on the same. [00:06:02] Speaker B: I need to watch it. I need to watch it. But at the same time, I'm not paying for it. I'm waiting so I can do a little stream on where it comes out. [00:06:09] Speaker A: Because I'm not wanting to watch it so many times. I'm sorry, I just can't. I can't watch like the greatest Joker showman rip off. No, can't do it. [00:06:17] Speaker C: Why do you think they did that? [00:06:18] Speaker A: Because when. When you watch the trailer, I honestly thought, oh, okay. I like how it's like. It's. Maybe it's like he's demented, dreams like what's in his head. But then from all I've ever heard, it's just gone completely. Like loads of it is that, you know, I mean, I thought they were going to be like just moments where it's what's in his head. But this, like loads of musical numbers in it. I'm like, maybe they just overdid that. I don't know. [00:06:40] Speaker B: But anything more than one musical number was enough. [00:06:43] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:06:44] Speaker B: That's too much. You've already done it. [00:06:46] Speaker C: Because we're guys. [00:06:47] Speaker B: Not at all. [00:06:47] Speaker A: I mean, I'm not a fan of musicals. [00:06:49] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. [00:06:50] Speaker B: That's one of my favorite films and I've said that bare times on this thing. Yeah, but it's just not the place for it, you know? I mean, you're going out to do a musical. [00:06:57] Speaker C: Murderer. [00:06:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:07:00] Speaker A: Considering the difference between, like the first film and the second film, have they just gone completely in the wrong direction? Arguably, yes. Because the first one, he was so like. Because this is the thing. Heath Ledger was such a psychopath. But I thought Joaquin Phoenix's version was so clever because it was like I walked out of that film feeling uncomfortable. I felt like I was in the mind of a serial killer because it wasn't very scary bloke. But then he'd just be like twitching and schizo and shit. [00:07:24] Speaker B: No, true. [00:07:24] Speaker C: And he was understandable. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Yes. [00:07:27] Speaker C: In. In terms of his circumstances. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Could see where it. [00:07:30] Speaker C: Yeah. Whereas Heath Ledgers was definitely just more like destruction for destruction. [00:07:36] Speaker A: Just want to watch the world burn. [00:07:38] Speaker D: Villain or joker that you, like, had sympathy for and that you could feel a connection to, which is what sold it. So every other Joker creep. [00:07:45] Speaker A: And yeah, you could see the method behind the madness in every single sense of it. [00:07:49] Speaker D: It just felt Like a Gaga push, didn't it? Like, oh, she's back to singing. Let's do like five, ten songs. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Gaga push. That was brilliant. Yeah, absolutely. [00:07:57] Speaker C: Like an album or something. [00:07:58] Speaker A: Yeah, well, yeah, there you go. [00:08:00] Speaker B: She's touched it. You know the worst rated Simpsons episode ever is her episode. Not a joke you type in. [00:08:07] Speaker A: Really? [00:08:07] Speaker B: You've got the Simpsons. How many Simpsons episodes? [00:08:10] Speaker A: I was just going to say you've. [00:08:11] Speaker B: Got 38 seasons and hers is the dead last. And I watched it not too long ago. Not a great episode. Cuz it's just a big advert for her the entire time. Tell you lowest rated episode. How many episodes? [00:08:22] Speaker A: Someone that in pop culture, everybody seems to think she's dead. Nice. Like 780. [00:08:26] Speaker B: 781. [00:08:27] Speaker A: Nearly a thousand episodes dead last. [00:08:29] Speaker C: Saying some of that Simpsons has been on that long and it's still shorter than one piece. That's crazy. [00:08:35] Speaker B: It is. It's a very good point. Because one piece up to like 1100. [00:08:39] Speaker C: I'm not a one piece fan. [00:08:40] Speaker B: No, I'm not. I know many people tried to convince me, but I'm not. I can't jump on that train. [00:08:44] Speaker A: How long has it been going? [00:08:46] Speaker B: 25 years. Yeah. [00:08:48] Speaker D: He's so right as well. [00:08:50] Speaker B: There you go. Look, see, I'm not just throwing it out. Lisa goes Gaga is considered one of the worst episode rates. Some say it's the lowest rated episode. [00:09:00] Speaker D: It's great trivia from you to know that of 781 episodes, that's the Gaga. [00:09:05] Speaker B: What I know is what I know Splinter. And what I know is Simpsons. [00:09:08] Speaker A: Would you say is why this man has a podcast? [00:09:10] Speaker C: Yeah. Would you say you've watched every episode of the Simpsons? [00:09:13] Speaker B: I'm close. [00:09:13] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:09:14] Speaker B: He's on a. I want to think the thing with me and my wife is we have a main show we're watching which is our severance, which is invincible, which is whatever. And we have a background show where I'm doing design work or whatever. [00:09:24] Speaker C: We're blazing through noise shows. [00:09:26] Speaker B: No show. Right? [00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah, good point. [00:09:28] Speaker B: Right now, on the back of nearly finishing Prison Break, the end of season four, we'll chat about it. Splinter. [00:09:33] Speaker A: Although I can't believe that's your background show. [00:09:34] Speaker B: It's a good show. So though. Because it's not really a background because I'm locked in. But the Simpsons one where I watched as a kid, as most like people who in their mid to late twenties did love that show. So now I'm watching now, but I'm watching it reverse. So like started at the newest season, I'm going back. So I'm on, like. I'm on, like season nine now. [00:09:51] Speaker A: But then again, is it probably getting more offensive? So then we talked about this. [00:09:54] Speaker B: It's crazy. Later on. Is it crazy because Bart's calling Nelson calls people gay all the time as insults. Homer's mad racist early on. Bark has got an Asian friend and he's so racist. [00:10:07] Speaker C: You would think it would have been the other way around. [00:10:09] Speaker B: No, I'm saying back then, though, like, when it was in, like, the 90s or whatever and they just weren't bothered about that kind of stuff. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Like, Nelson's calling people around 911. Can you imagine this stuff that they would have said? [00:10:19] Speaker B: Mental. Nelson's calling people like fruitcakes for wearing colored on a tie. It's crazy. It's so bullying. [00:10:27] Speaker A: Doesn't Bart call someone a the F word, little gestler? I will not repeat on a live. No, I thought you said he did. [00:10:34] Speaker B: No, he calls. [00:10:36] Speaker C: Oh, no. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Maybe it did happen. I'm sure you said that on this podcast. [00:10:44] Speaker B: No, I think no. He kissed, he said. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Or it's Nelson. Is it? [00:10:46] Speaker B: He said spacker a good few times, but it wouldn't surprise me. [00:10:50] Speaker A: That's a goat. [00:10:51] Speaker B: If they said hard. If they said the hard F word. [00:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I feel like mong and spacker in Manchester. [00:10:58] Speaker B: It is in the sense. That's just Nelson's vocabulary. [00:11:01] Speaker C: I feel like just in British culture, insults are term. [00:11:03] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely, man. [00:11:05] Speaker C: Like, come on, you bellads. [00:11:06] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:07] Speaker A: I mean, it's like. Do you remember there was a period where, like, I own, I think the C word. I don't know why I'd like sense. [00:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:13] Speaker A: Sense of myself. But in America, I genuinely think only the last 10 years, they've put that even in films. The seaworld was like. [00:11:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it feels like it's traveled. [00:11:21] Speaker A: Yeah, man. It was like sacrilege to say cunt in America. [00:11:23] Speaker B: They don't really say it at all. [00:11:25] Speaker A: No, But I even went, do you remember Jim Jeffries dropped it. And like, he's Australian, though. [00:11:29] Speaker B: Australia. [00:11:30] Speaker A: That was the point of his sketch. He was saying that. He says it all the time. And Americans looking. [00:11:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. But it's because Americans lean on, like. [00:11:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:11:38] Speaker B: They're both this dry, though. They seem the same. [00:11:40] Speaker A: That's their hard one. Is it? [00:11:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a good one. [00:11:43] Speaker C: Ass like jackass. [00:11:45] Speaker B: Have you got some at Splinter? [00:11:47] Speaker D: Have I got something? [00:11:47] Speaker B: Oh, you look like you. It look like you had it. You like you were looking over like. [00:11:50] Speaker A: You had originally like that. Looking at you. [00:11:53] Speaker B: I thought you said you were. You did they. Did he say it or. [00:11:56] Speaker D: No, I was. I was. Was searching whether or not Bart used the slurs, but I didn't want that in my searches. [00:12:01] Speaker B: Fair enough. I just decided to say, you know what? It'll be on the screen now and if you're audio listening, give it a search yourself. [00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:09] Speaker B: Should we keep it going then? Because we've got a lot of stuff to get through today. So. [00:12:12] Speaker A: First of all, though, I think I know you were going to move on to. To something else, but we wanted to. We wanted to give you the opportunity to explain the origin behind your. Your artist name. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, of course. [00:12:23] Speaker C: Shout out the anime heads back home. [00:12:26] Speaker B: I knew it was gonna be. I knew it was gonna be Dragon Ball. I knew it was gonna be. Yeah, power levels over 9,000. [00:12:32] Speaker C: I knew it. [00:12:33] Speaker B: I knew it. Explain to Sam and anyone else. [00:12:35] Speaker C: So, basically. So I am a Zimborn artist. Grew up in South Africa, America, England. My name is Munashe. That's my government name. I just go by Nash, but I always wanted to use my name. But obviously growing up, I mean, even the teachers couldn't get it right. Yeah, the variations I used to hear my name was crazy, like, so I went with Omo because I was always interested in Japanese culture growing from anime, things like that. Because Manasha is Omo in Japanese and. [00:13:04] Speaker A: Oh, sick. [00:13:05] Speaker C: It's quite interesting because a lot of Japanese culture overlaps with Zim culture. Like, we have a lot of the same stuff, like Tanaka being almost like. Yeah, it's crazy that there's even translations like that. And then the 9K used to be 9001 because I was big Andre 3000 fan growing up. And then obviously the guy. Hey, come on. And the combination. And then it just became 9k after my first, like, proper Manchester show where basically I was getting interviewed and this guy was like, 9,000. Why don't you just go by 9K? I was like, that actually sounds really. [00:13:44] Speaker B: That's how the best nickname start with. [00:13:45] Speaker A: Someone else 3k all the time, don't they? [00:13:48] Speaker B: So, like, I like it, but I. [00:13:50] Speaker C: Wanted to, you know, hold true to the. [00:13:52] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [00:13:52] Speaker C: But then obviously, as you start seeing content and stuff. Yeah, almost 9,000. It was like, became a bit of a word for. So, yeah, it just became almost 9k and then just 9k class. [00:14:03] Speaker B: I wouldn't have thought that. Tanaka, you say you're from Zimbabwe? [00:14:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, we have Tanaka. I've never heard there's literally like a List. There's so many names and words where it's exact translations. So it makes me think, like, maybe ancient history. [00:14:16] Speaker A: I was gonna say. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:17] Speaker A: Because you would have think. I mean, even just geographically, like, those cultures are so far away, so far apart. I wouldn't have seen how that. Yeah, that would have overlaps. [00:14:25] Speaker C: When you think of the ocean, that there's an ocean between. [00:14:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:28] Speaker C: So they would have probably been some sort of thing. [00:14:31] Speaker B: Because that's interesting. [00:14:32] Speaker C: I mean, one of my friends, he's. He's from Bermuda class and never get lost. I always say that. But his. His surname is literally Ming, but it's because of ancient, like up his lineage. He's from like, East Asian empire. [00:14:51] Speaker A: Yo, that's. I never knew that. [00:14:54] Speaker B: Yeah. We're learning things this podcast. We're learning stuff. You speak Bemba? [00:14:57] Speaker A: Cover all bases. [00:14:58] Speaker B: I thought that was a national language of Zimbabwe. [00:15:01] Speaker A: Oh, bless you. [00:15:02] Speaker B: Never mind. Let's keep it going. [00:15:03] Speaker A: Did you see? He thought. He thought he got some white points. Ally. I'm an ally. [00:15:10] Speaker B: That's the natural language. Give it a search for now. Anyway. Let's keep it going. [00:15:13] Speaker C: Don't embarrass. [00:15:14] Speaker B: I just want to keep then. [00:15:16] Speaker A: Classic. He's telling you from Zimbabwe. Yeah, it is. I'm telling you. Classic Gaslighting. [00:15:22] Speaker B: Keep going. Come on. [00:15:26] Speaker A: Do you want to introduce the next bit, then? [00:15:27] Speaker B: Okay. Go on then. So we've got a segment we do on every artist that comes on Desert Island Discs. So three albums, rest of your life. Desert Island. What are those? Albums to put you on the spot. So you need serious replayability. [00:15:43] Speaker C: So only three? [00:15:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, three. [00:15:46] Speaker C: And I'm there for life. I hate to say it, especially because he's getting dogged on right now, but. [00:15:53] Speaker A: He'S gonna drop Drake. [00:15:54] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:15:56] Speaker B: Some good Drake albums, though. [00:15:57] Speaker C: But that's because. Yeah, as a rapper, I have to put that up there. [00:16:01] Speaker B: Which one you going for, though? Depends what kind of mood. [00:16:06] Speaker C: Take Care. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Take Care is the obvious one. Yeah, take care 2011. Take care. [00:16:10] Speaker C: Just the. [00:16:10] Speaker A: I think it's got the most. [00:16:11] Speaker C: The musical diversity, really. Kanye West, 808 and Heartbreaks. [00:16:18] Speaker B: Nice. I love 808. You know, I. He's not a massive fan of 808. We're both huge Kanye fans. Or. Yay. [00:16:25] Speaker C: What's your favorites? [00:16:26] Speaker A: Oh, my favorite. Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy by far. See, Nice. [00:16:29] Speaker B: Graduation. I love 8. [00:16:32] Speaker C: Both are great choices. [00:16:33] Speaker B: There's almost no wrong answers, though. [00:16:35] Speaker C: There's no wrong answers. [00:16:35] Speaker B: There's no wrong answers. [00:16:36] Speaker C: I think AO8 and heartbreak simply because there's gonna be times I might be sad. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:16:41] Speaker C: Graduation. You're not gonna really get that sadness. [00:16:43] Speaker B: No. [00:16:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:44] Speaker C: And I don't know. Yeah. For me, just 808 and Heartbreaks has a nice variety of different sounds. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Yeah. We spoke about it last week because we spoke about long outros and say youy Will has got a massive outro for a long time. You know, fun facts. AO apart from obviously his gospel album is the only album. It's completely clean. Not one cuss word in all of 808s. Not one cuss word. Which is kind of mad. Think about it. But it is quite a clean album. The stuff he's talking about. It's great. Storyteller heartbreak, street lights, RoboCop. These are great songs. [00:17:18] Speaker C: When you go through the track list, it's. Street Lights are so awesome. [00:17:21] Speaker B: There's so many great songs in the album. [00:17:23] Speaker A: Yeah. And then Daniel Caesar did it again and it was so good. [00:17:25] Speaker B: Love Lockdown. There's so many great ones. See you. My nightmares. There's not a one song this time. I don't know everything. [00:17:31] Speaker A: It was like a revolutionary album. [00:17:34] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:17:35] Speaker A: Consider. And this is the thing. Like, I know people have got their opinions on him, but we'll always argue on here that when this guy walks around talking like he's the don, you can't argue with it. How many times does he absolutely Change the game? 808s and Heartbreaks is by far my least favorite Kanye album. And it's better than like so many people. [00:17:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:17:52] Speaker A: That moment in history that that album had. [00:17:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:55] Speaker A: Alone. Exactly. Exactly. [00:17:58] Speaker B: Like Heartless at the top there. One point what billion views. [00:18:01] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [00:18:02] Speaker A: And ironically it's his biggest tune. [00:18:04] Speaker B: And it came out 15 plus years ago. @ least. Mental. Right? So you got a 12 track album then in that one. What's your third? To close it out, maybe you need like a Chris Brown like 65 track album. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Songs on it. [00:18:21] Speaker D: DeMarco's 12 hours long. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Is that 240 tracks? [00:18:26] Speaker C: This is going to be left field. [00:18:27] Speaker B: Go on. [00:18:27] Speaker C: Daft Punk. [00:18:28] Speaker B: Nice. [00:18:29] Speaker A: Love it. [00:18:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:18:30] Speaker B: Random Access Memories. [00:18:32] Speaker C: I can't remember the name of the album. [00:18:34] Speaker A: Is it self titled one Daft Punk or. [00:18:36] Speaker C: No, there was. There was a short movie released along with it. An animated one. Oh, it's a classic one. [00:18:46] Speaker B: It's not a discovery. [00:18:47] Speaker A: I was gonna say. Is it not discovery now? [00:18:49] Speaker C: It might be. It might be because. I know. [00:18:52] Speaker A: Hang on. Is it the. It's the one with Interstellar 5. [00:18:54] Speaker C: Interstellar. [00:18:56] Speaker B: So what's the. Which was the album that started. Because I know that. What's the one that begins with V? The. It's got V8 VRQ or something. It's got a weird name and I know that's from that anime that you're talking about and I can't think what it's called, but it's on that. [00:19:11] Speaker A: Whatever that is. Harder, better, faster. No, one more time. What is that? Discovery. [00:19:18] Speaker B: Most likely will be discovery that. [00:19:20] Speaker A: That the blue people. [00:19:20] Speaker B: You pull up a track list for this, please. Spoiler so splinters for audio listeners just pulling up the. The truck. [00:19:26] Speaker A: This is, you know, the only reason I know that. Showing music videos. The kids I was teaching at school. [00:19:29] Speaker B: The other day and oh, it hurt my heart. [00:19:32] Speaker A: It was. It was already like getting Blood Voyager. [00:19:34] Speaker B: That was it. [00:19:36] Speaker C: They don't know none of this. [00:19:37] Speaker A: Nothing. [00:19:38] Speaker C: They don't. [00:19:38] Speaker B: That's Verdi's call when I was trying to remember what it is. That's the one I'm talking about. That's got in the music video has. Yeah, they think. But yeah, that's like. That's a left field one. I like it. I like it. It's a good one. [00:19:47] Speaker C: Just because again, variety, different emotions. Because I'm thinking it's forever, man. [00:19:51] Speaker B: Forever. You need some variety. [00:19:52] Speaker C: You need variety. [00:19:53] Speaker B: You can't have three of the same things. [00:19:54] Speaker C: Hyping track music all the time. [00:19:56] Speaker B: You need something sad. [00:19:57] Speaker A: You want to laugh, you want to cry, you want to dance. [00:19:59] Speaker B: Yeah, no, you need some. You need a bit of. You need a nice mixed bag. I respect. [00:20:02] Speaker C: What did you guys say? [00:20:03] Speaker A: I respect them. [00:20:04] Speaker B: We haven't done it yet, to be honest. We haven't actually done it. I'd really struggle, you know, I'd definitely struggle. Off. Top. Off the top of your head though the first come to your mind, it. [00:20:12] Speaker A: Would be my beautiful, darkest fantasy, Blonde. [00:20:16] Speaker B: Blonde is fair. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I was gonna say it. [00:20:19] Speaker C: Not Channel Orange. [00:20:21] Speaker B: No, mine would be Channel. Channel Orange is in there for me. [00:20:24] Speaker C: I prefer Channel Orange to blonde. [00:20:26] Speaker A: So do you know we spoke last literally last night. I've got. I. I've got two Blonde records I had and I sold onto my mate last night. I came and picked it up and we're having this exact discussion. I think it depends on where you were at in your like fandom of Frank Ocean when these albums came out. I've discussed with him a few times because like Kendrick. Kendrick Lamar is my goat. But like I got into Kendrick Lamar quite late. I mean I'm like, I'm 26. But when Dam came out, I was just Before Damn came out, I was, like, a fan of Kendrick. So Dan was the first album that came out that I was a fan when it came out. Do you know what I mean? So Damn has such a staple for me, even though I know by far it's not. It's not even my favorite album of his. [00:21:05] Speaker C: Yeah, but, like, I don't know about worse. [00:21:06] Speaker A: No, absolutely. [00:21:07] Speaker B: No, it's his worst. [00:21:08] Speaker A: No, it's fine. [00:21:08] Speaker B: It's fine to say it's his worst. [00:21:09] Speaker A: Damn's not. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Yeah, of course it is. [00:21:11] Speaker A: No, it's not. [00:21:11] Speaker B: It's. [00:21:13] Speaker A: I think Section eight is. [00:21:14] Speaker B: No, it's not. It's KVIMPA Butterfly. It's Good Kid, Mad City. You wait and then it's. [00:21:18] Speaker C: Both of you aren't putting Good Kid as one. [00:21:20] Speaker B: No, it's here. [00:21:21] Speaker C: I'll put it here. I'll put it. [00:21:22] Speaker B: It's here. [00:21:23] Speaker A: Absolutely, bro. [00:21:23] Speaker B: Come on. It's here. The storytelling's better, but the sound and everything is so much bigger and more complex in. In To Pimp Butterfly, it's very different, but it's the same as Channel Orange and Blonde. I'm also Enormous Stan. I was listening to Frank when it came out in Channel Original, and it's a perfect sequel where everything he did in that he made bigger and the sounds are bigger, the atmosphere is bigger, the storytelling is bigger, everything's bigger. But I do prefer Channel Orange. I know. [00:21:52] Speaker A: That's exactly the perfect point, though, I think if you were a fan. When Channel Orange came out. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker A: It was like. [00:21:56] Speaker C: I think that's what it is. Because by the time Blonde rolled round, I wasn't as tuned in as a fan at that point. [00:22:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:03] Speaker C: And then when I listened to it, I was like, this is what I waited for. [00:22:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:07] Speaker C: So I kind of just fell off of. Off of that. But when Channel Orange came, it was like, whoa. I've just come off future nostalgia, Right? [00:22:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:14] Speaker C: Then I hear this and I'm like, whoa. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I get film. Yeah, I get it. Well, that was the thing, I think, like, because growing up, like, my dad was into loads of 70 soul, so I had loads of 70 soul. And then there was lots of, like, indie rock. And it was all kind of rock stuff, really. Like, my dad was being in Pearl Jam and that. But then I got to college, like six form college, and it was like. It was like folds in indie rock. And then it, like, there was like a moment where it just switched to just like. I think it was Kendrick Lamar, really. But I was always into Kanye. But, like, Kanye was Just about as. As rap as it got for me growing up. Do you know what I mean? [00:22:46] Speaker C: So, like he was doing his own thing. [00:22:47] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So you got to think like Blonde and Damn. Is that 2016? I'm 18. I've just finished college. I'm just. I've just hit music uni. Like it was like a wave. [00:22:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I get that. [00:22:58] Speaker A: I mean, Blonde and at the end of the day, I think Blonde is an album that, like, there will never be a moment in life ever again where anyone releases an album. That left field to me. [00:23:07] Speaker B: There might never be an album where he releases an album. [00:23:09] Speaker A: That's true. Yeah. [00:23:10] Speaker B: Again. [00:23:11] Speaker A: Christ. [00:23:11] Speaker C: Especially when you add the moment of him doing the live stream. [00:23:14] Speaker A: Like exactly. [00:23:15] Speaker C: Like that whole. Yeah. As a whole moment. That was insane. And he finessed the bag. [00:23:23] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:23:24] Speaker B: Was it with Interscope? Who was he with at the time when he was doing that? [00:23:26] Speaker C: Yeah, he was with his. [00:23:27] Speaker A: I think. [00:23:27] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:23:29] Speaker B: Crazy. [00:23:30] Speaker C: Frank Ocean. Single handedly put. Who knows however many artists under 360 deals because of what he pulled. [00:23:35] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:23:36] Speaker C: It's insane. [00:23:37] Speaker B: I mean, what he put out wasn't trash, though. Like the album that's only on like SoundCloud. [00:23:40] Speaker A: Yeah, that visual album. Yeah. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Yeah. But not just when he's making like, I don't know, chairs and tables. I don't know what he was doing. [00:23:46] Speaker A: Yeah. He was just in some mad industrial room. [00:23:48] Speaker B: I respect it. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Smashing stuff. [00:23:49] Speaker B: I respect it. [00:23:50] Speaker A: So was. I think that was three. Was. Was that my three? Do you want to give us three? [00:23:53] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll go. [00:23:54] Speaker A: I'm immediate. I'm gonna change it in an hour. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I would change it as soon as we finish. I'll be different. Free. [00:23:58] Speaker A: Exactly, man. [00:23:58] Speaker B: I'll go Channel Orange again. [00:24:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Kingston 1. I said it'd probably be mine as well. Coloring book. Chance the Rapper. I love that album. [00:24:05] Speaker A: That's a good album. [00:24:06] Speaker C: Wait, yeah. Yeah. [00:24:07] Speaker A: I realized because it's such a Grammy unsigned. [00:24:10] Speaker B: Was it? [00:24:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:11] Speaker B: There you go. [00:24:11] Speaker A: But then it's a good mix of. [00:24:13] Speaker B: Rap, but also gospel. And it fits so well. It fits so well. [00:24:17] Speaker A: Having culture like being with Kanye and Chance Rapper. [00:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:22] Speaker A: One of my all time favorites. [00:24:23] Speaker B: I know it is. [00:24:23] Speaker C: I don't know why it never made the main album, man. [00:24:26] Speaker B: Yeah, not that version. No, of course it didn't. It was just thingy. [00:24:30] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:24:31] Speaker B: To close it out. Give me. [00:24:34] Speaker A: Amazing. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Is it. I love that album. I go back and list it all the time. Every. Almost every song. Repeatability. [00:24:41] Speaker A: Is that the one that's got like literally Anderson PAX on it. [00:24:44] Speaker B: Yeah, he changes a lot what he does in that performance as well, but. [00:24:50] Speaker C: I can't think that's what happened, man. [00:24:52] Speaker A: Oh, bro, that's such a amazing question. Hot. [00:24:55] Speaker C: Damn hot. [00:24:56] Speaker B: Don't say hot shower. No hot shower in the studio. No hot shower. I like the opening song. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Great artist in every sense. [00:25:04] Speaker B: I really like the opening song of Big Day. And that's the only one. [00:25:08] Speaker C: That's the only one. [00:25:08] Speaker B: And the rest. [00:25:10] Speaker A: That holy tune he did with Justin Bieber, it was a very pop tune, but it was such a. Like, such a well produced pop tune. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Yeah. There's none of his. None of it on his biggest songs. None of them are from this album was crazy. [00:25:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Honestly, Peaches, I thought was a tune. [00:25:24] Speaker B: Peaches is a big. [00:25:25] Speaker A: I still play that heavy album. [00:25:26] Speaker B: This. How many tunes it have? 40 tunes. [00:25:28] Speaker D: 16. [00:25:29] Speaker B: Oh, 16. It's a lot of hairs on it. [00:25:32] Speaker A: That album made Blanco a million. Just know it. [00:25:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Let me close it out with Graduation. Yeah, close out with Graduation. But like I said, it could change what genre per genre day to day. [00:25:43] Speaker A: And the funny thing is, if I look at my three, every artist I picked there, I could take another album off them. [00:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Agrees. [00:25:52] Speaker C: There's multiple that you could have from there. Yeah. [00:25:55] Speaker B: You put it in the greatest hits as an album because that could be a cheeky one. Because one's like greatest hits. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Yeah. There isn't a Kenya artist like, True. [00:26:03] Speaker C: But it's official catalog. [00:26:05] Speaker B: Well, catalog itself. Well, we'll get to that. We'll keep it moving on because we've. [00:26:09] Speaker A: Got a lot to sort. [00:26:11] Speaker B: You've got to take us through the BBL and nothing to do with batties, the British basketball and how. And how that got. How that happened. How it got together. [00:26:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:22] Speaker B: Please tell us that story of how that came together and what happened. [00:26:25] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. So I think it started probably six years ago, which is crazy how life works out, man. Six years ago, I'm just an upcoming artist in Manchester trying to make a name for myself, you know, try and create a bit of momentum. I've dropped a couple of songs, I think, because I'm like eight years deep now. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm about two years into my career. I've now like released a couple of songs. It's like, okay, these are pretty good. People are liking these. I'm now getting booked for a couple of shows here and there. I meet this guy named Mark. He basically was like running events off the square. Off the square was early days. [00:27:10] Speaker A: What's his surname? I know Him. [00:27:12] Speaker C: You know Mark. Yeah, he moved. [00:27:14] Speaker A: He used to do Zombie shack for all the gigs at rcm. [00:27:17] Speaker C: Yes, yes, I forgot. [00:27:19] Speaker A: We don't hear this. [00:27:21] Speaker C: Yeah, he's put a lot of people. [00:27:23] Speaker A: On in the city, you know. [00:27:24] Speaker C: Honestly. Yeah, Especially around that era. [00:27:27] Speaker A: Like, yeah, he used to get a lot of stick from people at RCM because there were. Some of them were gigs. But like he literally gave. [00:27:33] Speaker C: He was putting his name out there for it. [00:27:34] Speaker A: He gave every young artist in Manchester their first gig. How is that a criticism? [00:27:38] Speaker C: Off the square Wouldn't be what it is today without what he was doing. Cuz so many events. Run off from off the square now. [00:27:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:27:45] Speaker C: Anyway, I met Mark, you know, he. He gave me opportunities and he introduced me to his business partner at the time, Shout Out, Kill Miami. And yeah, they were telling me they were starting a sync business back then. [00:28:00] Speaker B: That's what you said. [00:28:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:28:01] Speaker B: I was guessing this. [00:28:02] Speaker A: I wanted to ask you about that. Got. Carry on. We'll get back to it. [00:28:05] Speaker C: You can ask me questions. But. But basically at the time, I didn't know what sync was. I was like, yeah, what the f. [00:28:11] Speaker A: Like it is a myth as well. It's a myth we'll all want to crack and we never can. Well, you did. Go on. Carry on. [00:28:18] Speaker C: Come on. So, yeah, that was. That made that connection. Fast forward four years later now. I've now made a name for myself, done headline shows, yada, yada, yada, made some noise in the city and Kill Miami has now hit me up years later. And he's just like, they've had my music in their catalog for like two, three years at this point. And then he just hits me up out of the blues like, yo, we've got this partnership that we want to do. And I heard your track Alleluia and it has the sound that we want to do for this track. It's like, okay, like, yeah, sure, whatever. Like, then we started talking and now. Then it started like falling into place, like, oh, this is what's happening. And then we made the song, we went to the studio. It was like in some. Like, I kid you not, it looked like. What's that film with the Sunken Place? Get out. Yeah, it was like that. I kid you not. It was some compound in the middle of nowhere where we drove. [00:29:25] Speaker A: What have I got myself into? They told me this was for a song. [00:29:30] Speaker C: And then we got there. [00:29:32] Speaker A: I see to the screen. [00:29:34] Speaker B: Got. [00:29:35] Speaker A: Get out on the amount of time he does this. You know, we're having a conversation. [00:29:39] Speaker B: It was. It was the House. [00:29:40] Speaker A: Oh, what? So this, what, the studio was in a house? [00:29:42] Speaker C: In a house like that in the. [00:29:43] Speaker A: Middle of, like an artist residency. Right. [00:29:45] Speaker D: I just thought I was pulling up just the house for the. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Literally the amount of times I turn around on that screen makes no sense to me. [00:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll carry on the scale of the universe. Yeah, exactly. [00:29:53] Speaker A: That's what I was thinking. Sorry, go. [00:29:55] Speaker C: I'm at this house now we've arrived. Then I see the studio. I'm like, whoa. This is what's going on. Okay. We made the song was a great vibe shout. Lady Ice as well. We both collaborated, collaborated on the song, made the song. And I thought, that's that. I'm gonna get some money off that. And royalties down the line, of course. And then three months later, he hits me up again. He's like, we're performing at 02 next year. I'm like, wait, the O2. Because I thought maybe the Manchester one. [00:30:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Everything's the O2. [00:30:26] Speaker C: Everything's the O2. We had like two rich. [00:30:28] Speaker A: The O2. Apollo Academy. [00:30:30] Speaker C: And he's like, Nah, O2 London. I'm like, oh. Like. And then as time went on, I'm finding out more. Then it's like, oh, it's being streamed on Sky Sports. And I'm like, oh, snap. And then there's a whole campaign, there's adverts, there's a shoot, there's. And yeah, man. So it was definitely like an incredible moment. And just goes to show, you never know where someone's gonna be, man. Because it all came from that connection with Mark six years before. Like, so. [00:30:58] Speaker B: Yeah, reminds me, of course, you see your net worth, your network is your net worth. So obviously that's. You had a good connection and they've said, hey, we think you're good for this. And then next, you know, you're performing Sky Sports live. You do. What in the. Was it half. Half time, like before they started? [00:31:15] Speaker C: It was before the finals game. [00:31:17] Speaker B: Oh. [00:31:17] Speaker C: So obviously they'd done a few games. They'd done the women's tournament as well. And then the final game, it was London Lions versus Cheshire Phoenix. Yeah. And yeah, before the final game, they basically had us perform live. And everyone. It was like, at the time, the stadium was not full, fully full, but there was still like 10, 000 people. [00:31:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:41] Speaker B: And also, you're not account for. Do you know what the numbers were for people watching, like at home, televised numbers? Because then if you're adding that on as well, that's a lot of eyeballs on It. [00:31:49] Speaker C: It was a lot. I'm not too sure on the exact figure, but I know when they did the campaign for the song itself, it was like on a million views. Yeah. [00:31:57] Speaker B: Did you see a spike like in your. Your own social. Your own videos? You see a lot more. [00:32:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:02] Speaker B: Engagement. [00:32:02] Speaker C: I saw a lot of followers coming. I mean, my stories were blowing up. [00:32:05] Speaker B: Like I reposted it. [00:32:07] Speaker C: So definitely like the biggest moment in my career so far. So yeah, so far. [00:32:11] Speaker A: I like the attitude. [00:32:13] Speaker B: That's my biggest this year so far. Last year even. Yeah, I respect it. I love it. I want to get on as well because I couldn't see. We went did a deep dive on your Instagram, but for an artist, you keep it very low key because some people had it on. We had on George, the CEO of Souls Play. He had 100,000 TikToks to go through together. Real deep dive. Yours is a little more carefully curated. Carefully curated is a good way to put it. What is going on with you in this. This video game one? Because I tried to go for even our messages at the time and found out and there was nothing I could see on it. If you're legally allowed to talk, NDA's. [00:32:50] Speaker A: Up to his eyes. [00:32:53] Speaker C: So, yeah, I am basically the main music engine, not engineer. I don't know what the word composer, I guess. Yeah, I'm the main composer on a video game coming out called Yasuke Lost Descendant. Check that out on YouTube. [00:33:10] Speaker A: Okay. [00:33:10] Speaker C: IGN trailer out there. Amazing video game. Yeah. So I'm the main sound designer on that. The reason you couldn't find much is because a lot of stuff I'm not allowed to share yet. [00:33:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:23] Speaker C: So like there's a whole theme song was created and every time that people have heard the theme song, they're like, oh my gosh, this is incredible. And I've not even been able to put it out yet. [00:33:35] Speaker B: Oh really? Have you got a date on that? Did they imagine is that this year or are they waiting for. [00:33:39] Speaker C: Oh yeah, I've managed to like agree to a date this year. [00:33:42] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:44] Speaker A: Are you allowed to tell us that day? [00:33:46] Speaker C: Oh, for the game? [00:33:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:47] Speaker C: Oh, no, the game's not this year. The song will be the game not this year. [00:33:52] Speaker B: So it's like a concept trailer. The one that got put out because I tried to find it again and couldn't find. But I remember seeing it. [00:33:58] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:33:59] Speaker B: On Instagram at the time. [00:34:01] Speaker C: It was. It was pretty much a first beta trailer. That was ign. It's been on loads of gaming awards. It's Also been on Format, gg, Shout Out Simran, who's been putting that together. So, like, it's in the works, basically. But, yeah, that's. That's one where to answer the first part to the question. Yeah, I curate my world, basically, to tell a story. There's plenty of archive posts. [00:34:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:30] Speaker C: Like, I'm sure you can agree on this. Plenty of stuff goes into the background. But it's just because my influences, when you look at people like Kanye west again, people like Daft Punk. [00:34:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:39] Speaker C: People like Pharrell Williams, even MF Doom. [00:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. [00:34:44] Speaker C: Like, they create a world that people can immerse themselves in. And for me, as a creative, as a musician, and as an art lover, just art in general from the studio itself. It's like you want to be immersed in something. So I always try and make my Instagram feel like that, where the minute you land, you might not know me. [00:35:05] Speaker B: But you get a good picture of what you're about. [00:35:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I like 15 seconds. You need to be able to understand. Okay. He likes vibrant colors. He has a lot of popping themes. And, you know, so those are words. [00:35:17] Speaker B: Of someone who's done marketing as a job. [00:35:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:19] Speaker B: Knows what they're talking about. Well, you know, we'll have you on back when it does come out. [00:35:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Or just before. And you've got more to talk about it, because we'd love to hear it. [00:35:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:27] Speaker B: The question is, are we gonna see you in Fortnite as a playable character? Because at this point, at this point, every man and his dog is. Will be on Fortnite before the end. [00:35:37] Speaker A: He's gonna be running next to Homelander in Warzone. [00:35:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:39] Speaker A: In spring. Yeah. [00:35:40] Speaker B: I mean, it's getting like that in a minute. [00:35:42] Speaker C: Tom Hardy's in Fortnite and they just put him in. Yeah, they put him in a bomber jacket and jeans. [00:35:47] Speaker A: Like, he's not just as Tom Hardy. [00:35:48] Speaker C: It's Tom Hardy. It's not Eddie Brock. Venom. Tom Hardy. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Marcus Rashford's gonna be in Fortnite. [00:35:56] Speaker B: I'm surprised he isn't already. [00:35:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:58] Speaker B: Literally in his West Ham kit, or whatever he is. [00:35:59] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Let's have a look at it. [00:36:03] Speaker D: Oh, he's just in a bomber. [00:36:04] Speaker C: And that's what I'm saying. [00:36:06] Speaker A: Oh, I just said he. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Brock. [00:36:07] Speaker C: Okay, okay, okay. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Yeah. But still, why would you put him in as Eddie Brock when he's Venom? [00:36:11] Speaker D: Surely the name Tom Hardy would be bigger than Eddie Brock. If you're going to do this as a marketing thing, who the hell Tom Hardy is? [00:36:18] Speaker A: That's Nuts. [00:36:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Mental. Let's keep it going because we got a lot to get to cover through. Do we want to move on to Matt Rushmore? Do you want to go through Grammys first? [00:36:26] Speaker A: Well, after. Should we discuss the super bowl while we're at it? [00:36:29] Speaker B: We might as well go to the super bowl, which is this Sunday. So if you're hearing this, it's long gone. [00:36:33] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. Well, we'll have the episode out. [00:36:38] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:36:39] Speaker A: What do you reckon is going to go down? You know, because I saw loads of people saying as well that because Trump's there, Kendrick Lamar has the opportunity to just do the funniest thing in the world and just all over Donald Trump for 30 minutes. [00:36:50] Speaker B: Well, why would he do that? Be a total waste of his time. [00:36:53] Speaker A: He's Gates. [00:36:54] Speaker B: Well, I mean, he can do, but. Sure. But I'm saying he's gonna do. It's him. It's Scissor. It's Keem. [00:36:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:59] Speaker B: No one else. And I don't really want anyone else. No, don't bring Absol. Don't. [00:37:03] Speaker A: Mustard's gonna come out. [00:37:04] Speaker B: Surely Mustard probably will come. But I don't want to see the rest of. I don't need to see the rest of the of. But I know he's always wants to put those guys on. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Unless he brings out. What's he called, who did win. [00:37:18] Speaker C: Who's J Rock? [00:37:18] Speaker B: J Rock. And he comes out just J Rock. Weird. I would love to see that because I love that song. But I don't think he needs to. Just his discography is already big enough. Well, Drake. [00:37:27] Speaker C: Dre brought out loads of people from his. [00:37:29] Speaker B: He did, but I think for. That was more of a. That was a hip hop. It wasn't more like. [00:37:34] Speaker A: It was like a curation. [00:37:35] Speaker B: It was. It was like. It was What, Dre, Snoop? M50? [00:37:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:39] Speaker B: Missy Elliot. [00:37:40] Speaker A: No, Missy Elliot. It was. [00:37:43] Speaker B: Who was it? [00:37:44] Speaker A: Mary J Blige. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Mary J Blige. I think it was more just like it's hip hop is on this year. Where this time. Because it's him. [00:37:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:50] Speaker B: I don't know if you saw. People thought that Tyler was going to be there because he put out one of his music video for Sticky and it starts with them playing football and everyone's going, you're not slick. We know you're going to be there. And he was like, I'm on tour. Go watch Kenny. [00:38:04] Speaker A: I'm still hoping he's just having his own, you know, I don't think he would show up. [00:38:08] Speaker B: We'll see. [00:38:09] Speaker A: Oh, but I don't see how he would miss it. Why would he miss it? [00:38:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:12] Speaker C: The super bowl moment's about to be crazy. [00:38:14] Speaker A: It really is. [00:38:15] Speaker C: And I'm conflict. I remember I was conflicted. [00:38:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:18] Speaker C: I'm conflicted because. [00:38:20] Speaker B: Are you saying to watch it because. [00:38:22] Speaker A: You like Drake, that's why. [00:38:23] Speaker C: No, because I grew up a Drake fan. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:26] Speaker C: And a Kendrick fan at the same time. [00:38:28] Speaker B: Shout out Hannah. [00:38:30] Speaker C: But at the same time it's like, yo, they really gave him the Super Bowl. After everything that's happened. After everything that's happened. [00:38:38] Speaker A: Five Grammys for calling someone a piece. Hold on. [00:38:40] Speaker B: We're not getting into it. Yeah, we're saving it. [00:38:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. We're gonna save it anyway for his whole set because so basically what I've heard is that through the. Well, obviously it's a. I was gonna call him Rockefeller. [00:38:53] Speaker B: Roc Nation. [00:38:54] Speaker A: Roc Nation. Thank you. They're putting it on, but it's already been confirmed that they've. They've kind of said to Kendrick, look, you can play the song, but they need to make a decision, televising it, whether to put the subtitles on of the. The lyric. [00:39:07] Speaker B: Not just that lyric, though, because there's a lot. [00:39:09] Speaker A: It's riddled in it. [00:39:09] Speaker B: He's got a lot of lyrics, I think, across a lot of songs. You're not really going to want him to. [00:39:13] Speaker A: No, but I mean more the stuff. Considering Drake's getting very hefty with his lawsuits. [00:39:17] Speaker B: You've got to be careful. [00:39:18] Speaker A: Oh, well, I did hear he dropped it. Yeah. But this. More thinking that, you know, if Roc Nation and, you know, whoever's televising it, if they are throwing up the lyrics subtitled of Calling Drake something. Is it. They're scared of getting sued, basically. [00:39:32] Speaker B: I think it's a. I don't think they will. I think they'll maybe tell him to make a. I can't remember if they did a clean show last year, but I think they probably will make him just do. But he's not. He's used to this. Like when you go on and do an award show, you do a clean version. [00:39:45] Speaker C: He always makes different versions. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Exactly. But this whole thing, though, with what he's saying about Drake, it's not like it's. It's not like he's swearing or anything like that. It's more the content of his lyrics. [00:39:55] Speaker B: That's gonna be defamation. [00:39:57] Speaker A: Yeah, that's exactly what they're worried about. It' incriminating. [00:40:00] Speaker D: If he goes up on stage and plays to 120 million live viewers. Then there's no way he gets away with any. Like the lawsuit would come on his desk. [00:40:07] Speaker A: But this is what I mean. So basically this is what I'm saying. Like the companies have already decided, look, he's going to play it. But are we going to put the subtitles up? [00:40:13] Speaker C: I think they're going to put it. [00:40:14] Speaker A: They've got it, aren't they? Really? [00:40:16] Speaker C: After the UMG lawsuit situation. Yeah, man, we know how these labels are. They're like you, you're going to come for me. [00:40:23] Speaker B: Yeah, for me. Yeah, yeah. [00:40:26] Speaker C: They. The fact they even gave him the Super Bowl. [00:40:29] Speaker A: They picked a side. Do you know what I mean? [00:40:32] Speaker C: Like that told us like, oh, we're not finished. [00:40:34] Speaker B: No, they recognized the culture, said he's won it. They went, he's won it. He's got it then. [00:40:39] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:40:40] Speaker C: I mean, and let's not forget the Amazon, the Amazon show as well. He's had athletes, his own friends. LeBron James. [00:40:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Like apparently him and Jake not speaking. [00:40:51] Speaker A: Terms now he's ruined friendships. [00:40:53] Speaker C: Yeah, he's real friendship. So I feel like, like they might not put the subtitles but they know what they want. [00:40:59] Speaker A: I don't think it makes a difference whether they put something. Yeah, it doesn't because 120 million people are going to be shouting. Yeah. You know, trying to strike a chord. But it's probably a minor. [00:41:06] Speaker C: I mean they sang at the Grammys. [00:41:10] Speaker B: Well, we'll get. People were singing it at the Grammys. [00:41:12] Speaker A: Did you hear it? When, when he was walking up and they played it. The second the lyric came out the whole room screamed a minor. [00:41:18] Speaker B: Which is mad because loads. Most of these people know him exactly well. So you're talking about your co worker, you're talking about your colleagues. [00:41:24] Speaker A: Let's be honest with just how like active they are in the public eye. Most of them are going to be more friends with Drake than they're going to be friends with Kendrick. [00:41:30] Speaker C: Yeah, because Kendrick's in the. [00:41:31] Speaker A: Exactly. Because he's always at home, you know. [00:41:33] Speaker B: And he's been around longer. But yeah, should we get onto that now talking about the Grammys for it? Because he went five for five. He went. [00:41:38] Speaker A: He won five Grammys because I'm fairly. [00:41:41] Speaker B: Sure if you could pull up some of the headlines, he went five wins off one song which matches Drake's all time Grammy nominations, which is outrageous and I think it's not deserving. I do think Drake should have more than that. But still that's besides the point. To win five Grammys On a single song for like best rap performance, best song of the year, best record. It's a single, which is a diss. [00:42:05] Speaker C: To win a Grammy, you usually have to submit an album. [00:42:08] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:42:08] Speaker C: One of your songs from the album gets you a Grammy off a single. [00:42:14] Speaker A: Throwaway diss track. Almost a song that wouldn't have come out if he wasn't in a feud. Yeah, I mean it wasn't like. [00:42:19] Speaker B: Like it was, but technically I'm not on his side. But Drake was right when he said Kendrick just opened his mouth. Somebody hand him a Grammy right. [00:42:27] Speaker A: Now technically that makes Drake right because like. [00:42:30] Speaker B: No, but I think as well it is the truth. It is the truth. [00:42:33] Speaker A: Drake said it because it's like, oh, no, I fart and they give him a Grammy. Like, no, it's because it's quality stuff. [00:42:38] Speaker B: It does deserve record of the year because it was that record of the summer and it really had that long lasting. Every man and his dog knew about it, culturally deserved it. But ones that didn't maybe deserve it. Album of the year. Beyonce, the lowest rated album with one big tune didn't rate any anyway and it had the lowest amount of weeks. I don't know if you've got it up. Splintering tutorial. The headlines on it. The lowest amount of weeks at number in the top 200 was her album. All the others outperformed in every category on like sales and views and whatever. [00:43:11] Speaker A: I meant to send it to my iPad. Billie Eilish's just the single Birds of a Feather off that album. [00:43:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Can you get it all for us, please? [00:43:18] Speaker B: Big fat tune. [00:43:19] Speaker A: Just the statistics. It was like 35 times bigger than Beyonce's album stream wise. Just the whole album. Yeah, that one song. [00:43:26] Speaker C: Willie's been getting shagged on a regular with her nominations, like, but she's. [00:43:32] Speaker B: She's got two Oscars at this point. To my knowledge. There's a stack of grammys and she's 20. [00:43:37] Speaker A: It's starting to feel like, you know when a referee is like. Like gives a fouling and then it shouldn't have been a foul and then the referee's clearly thinking, I shouldn't have given that. So I'm going to give a foul somewhere else. [00:43:46] Speaker B: Yeah, we can't be playing that with awards. [00:43:48] Speaker A: Billie Eilish has won that many. They've just kind of. [00:43:49] Speaker B: She's. [00:43:50] Speaker C: Because she's missed seven. [00:43:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it's that many. [00:43:52] Speaker C: She's missed seven. [00:43:53] Speaker A: But then how many? This year alone it was like five or six. She missed. I won it. [00:43:56] Speaker B: She's got 10 though, hasn't she? She got 10. How many? How many she got? How many Billie Eilish Grammys sent him. [00:44:02] Speaker A: On another rabbit hole. That's my fault. [00:44:04] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry. [00:44:05] Speaker A: But either way, I mean, what the other thing was. You gotta remember Jay Z said on stage last year, yeah, it's criminal that Beyonce hasn't won. [00:44:13] Speaker B: You basically pressed on the next possible option. [00:44:16] Speaker A: Exactly, yeah. [00:44:17] Speaker C: I mean, going down the conspiracy rabbit hole. [00:44:21] Speaker B: We did a whole bunch of episodes in this so we know why it happened. It's never. It's who's in their pocket? [00:44:27] Speaker C: Beyonce. Every time. [00:44:29] Speaker A: Why do we got otherwise Beyonce's face like, oh, me. Oh my God, you couldn't give it to me. [00:44:33] Speaker B: I never knew there's a clip. [00:44:35] Speaker A: She should have got an Oscar for the performance. And reacting to her getting that there's a clip. [00:44:39] Speaker C: And Jay Z might go, by the. [00:44:41] Speaker A: Way, I want to thank Beyonce for just something. Yeah. Just in case. [00:44:44] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a clip. We spoke about last year's Grammys when they're all graduating, when she won. Whatever one she won. And you see Diplo go and he says they paid for that. And it was. They accent like televised him doing that. Because they're all going, well, going. We all know, we all know you've got that because you two are the top of the food chain. It's gonna happen. [00:45:01] Speaker A: Totally. [00:45:02] Speaker B: You would have said to them, we're not showing up. She's getting album. Yeah, they're gone. But Jay, everyone else outperformed her and they went, doesn't matter, she's getting it. [00:45:10] Speaker A: It's the fact they give a country album of the year as well. [00:45:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:12] Speaker A: I mean it was. It felt like a cop out. [00:45:14] Speaker B: It's barely country. The only song I know, apart from that one is the one that had Kendrick on it, which I did. Like the who does America love? No, no, it's a hip hop song. [00:45:22] Speaker A: That'S on one with Miley Cyrus. Was. Was pretty country, but I only heard it 30 seconds of it once. [00:45:27] Speaker B: I only know the first 5 seconds if this in Texas. [00:45:30] Speaker C: Country artists doing way well. [00:45:31] Speaker A: This is what's criminal in it. Oh yeah. [00:45:33] Speaker B: Country is massive. [00:45:34] Speaker A: I'm not a massive country, but it's like it's on the up at the moment. You're absolutely right. It's back in. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:40] Speaker C: So same with Disco House. [00:45:43] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. [00:45:43] Speaker C: I feel like we're just having resurgence of like the 70s. [00:45:46] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's like a 30 year rule. I've always like, you got to 70s, then it's so then it was 2000s with Jamiroquai and now we're like, like 25 years later. So it's like it's approaching now in it, you know, I mean like you do a leapers and like that. [00:45:58] Speaker C: Yeah, but I'm glad for it. [00:46:00] Speaker A: But yeah, man, totally. [00:46:01] Speaker C: I do feel like hip hop needs that now. [00:46:03] Speaker B: Do you think? Don't explain. You got the clip ready. But is hip hop for everyone though? [00:46:10] Speaker C: It's at a point now we have enough sub genres. [00:46:12] Speaker B: But are you sure though? It's for everyone. [00:46:15] Speaker A: This feels like. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah, but even that still as well though. That's it. Just. I don't know if you saw this clip. Have you guys. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I knew that was coming. [00:46:24] Speaker B: I don't know if you saw this one of Taylor dancing to Not Like Us. [00:46:27] Speaker A: Yeah. So for our audio listeners, it's Taylor Swift very uncomfortably dancing. [00:46:31] Speaker B: Well, first of all, she's taller than Navi from Avatar. [00:46:35] Speaker A: She's an Amazonian, man. [00:46:38] Speaker B: It's just the strangest. Look when I saw this. [00:46:41] Speaker A: Did you see her with finger guns? [00:46:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:46:42] Speaker A: She was firing out finger guns. [00:46:44] Speaker B: It makes me feel to not like us. It feels like if you. It feels like if your white grandma was. Was do. Was head bob into Jay Horse, you'd be like, I don't. It's just. It's okay. It's not for you. [00:46:55] Speaker A: She was. She was a gang sign away from covering everything she possibly could have said. [00:46:59] Speaker B: Yeah, outrageous. Oh, and then we get onto this. I don't know if you saw the clip. [00:47:02] Speaker A: This was. [00:47:02] Speaker B: This. [00:47:03] Speaker A: This hurt my heart. [00:47:04] Speaker B: I don't know why we do. Did you see this? So there were two reporters that were talking to Kenneth. [00:47:10] Speaker A: 19 each as well. So 19 years old. [00:47:12] Speaker B: He need 13 time Grammy Award winner and these who are talking to him. And he's telling his story about being there for the millionth time because he's won a Bunch of Grammys, 2017 Songwriters hall of Fame and also for Soul Train for his contributions to that. And then Chapel Rome walks by and they go, yeah, yeah. And he's like, it's all right, I'll move on. [00:47:30] Speaker A: Well, one of them and the other one just looks and goes, sorry, love. [00:47:34] Speaker B: Yeah. And basically he just goes, he's moved on for someone else younger who's fresh. And it honestly hurts to see this. [00:47:42] Speaker A: I mean, granted, she won best new Artist. Like she's. [00:47:45] Speaker B: Yeah, but. [00:47:46] Speaker A: But it's more just. They should have been sacked from just. They did. [00:47:50] Speaker B: So the Grammys reached out and then put out a statement saying they apologized for the disrespect against him that he was in a mid interview. They were talking to him and then they just moved him on. And it's so sad to see. [00:48:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. [00:48:03] Speaker B: It's sad to see. [00:48:04] Speaker C: I feel like this just extends to the whole music industry though. Just we've lost that. That, that thing, that thing that made music as a business great. Which is like the love of the craft. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah. I think it's the community big time. [00:48:20] Speaker C: We know the craft is gone. [00:48:22] Speaker B: Did you ever see the clips when. Terrible example at Takeshi 6. Now we're talking about a regular system and it was like loads of you in the live. You're better rappers than me. I know. You can make better music than me. I know this. But it's rigged. You will never make it. [00:48:35] Speaker C: You'll never. [00:48:35] Speaker B: Like I made it because of the same reason. Because it's rigged. And that's the way itself. [00:48:39] Speaker A: The thing is. And we could go into it, but like it's that Tick Tock here, isn't it? Like it's. I don't know. [00:48:46] Speaker B: So many artists made it because of Tick Tock. [00:48:48] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:48:48] Speaker B: Those are. Made it because of Tick Tock. Oh, Steve Lacey. Another one massive because of Tick Tock. And if you saw there was a Shaboozy as well. [00:48:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:55] Speaker B: There was a clip of his live show and his biggest song at this. I can't reach one. It is because he had quite a few. It's probably bad habits. Yeah. [00:49:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:49:04] Speaker B: And he was trying to get everyone to sing the verse. No one knew it. [00:49:06] Speaker A: So it was so funny because people. [00:49:08] Speaker B: Were there waiting for this and it's gone from. Well, everyone's attention spans have gone shorter and shorter. People are shown up to shows for 40 seconds of a song that they've heard from an album of an artist who's done. [00:49:22] Speaker A: Well. That's. That's what I mean. As well as why has. How that's killed the love for the craft? Because the love for the craft now, like it's getting shorter. I don't. You'll probably agree with me, but like I've hit this point in my career with my original stuff. I know we were talking about it before, but like I've just come to the decision that. That I'm not gonna compromise anymore. Because at the end of the day, I have to believe in what I'm making. [00:49:40] Speaker B: Yep. [00:49:41] Speaker A: Because if. If I don't, how can I expect someone else to? And so I'm trying to consciously make that decision because at the end of the day if, if you make the decision everyone else is making of what's gonna pop me off on Tick Tock, what's gonna, like what's gonna have a 30 second catchy bit, then that's, that's not the love of the art and the craft, is it? That's the, that's the, the business and the marketing side of it. I mean, obviously we need to balance that, of course, but I just think that balance has gone completely other way. [00:50:07] Speaker C: Yeah, it's out of whack. [00:50:08] Speaker A: It's. It's insane. [00:50:09] Speaker C: And not just that, like, it's kind of like selling your soul in it. [00:50:12] Speaker A: Like totally. [00:50:13] Speaker B: It is exactly. Selling my soul. [00:50:15] Speaker A: By definition, exactly what it is. [00:50:16] Speaker C: You know what I mean? Because. And, and not just that, like, I feel like people are now making music for people who won't care in the long run. [00:50:24] Speaker A: Oh my God. [00:50:26] Speaker C: If you think someone like, like look at Ice Spice. A year ago, you could not get away from Ice Spice. [00:50:32] Speaker B: The ice is melted. [00:50:33] Speaker A: I wish I could talk about this. [00:50:36] Speaker C: It's a glass of water now. So in. And that's only a year and so off of that alone. I agree with you, man. [00:50:45] Speaker A: This is. I always, I was always told. And then I've kind of grown up to see them for myself. That the end of the day, if you chase the trends, you know, you'll have your flash in the pan moment. Like what you were saying before as well, if you're lucky anyway, you'll have your flash in the pan moment. But if there's no substance. Substance to it. Yeah, your moment will go. [00:51:01] Speaker C: And then. [00:51:02] Speaker A: And, and I'm not gonna name drop because, like, as much as I don't like them, but I'll totally tell you after, there's plenty of artists I know that have had their moment and because they were chasing those trends the second the trend moved on, no one gives a. Yeah, yeah. You know, and they might have had a higher point, higher than what I could have ever dreamed of. And it's not like I'm like, I would have still wanted that moment, but you know, what's the point if it's. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Just, you know, what prime example of that at the end of. Oh my gosh, I should put J. Cole in my. In my Desert island discs. In the end of KOD in 1985, he's talking directly to Lil Pump, who dissed him. Talking about Old man Music. No one wants that conscious stuff. And then the whole thing is him. It's not even a diss track because it's More him speak advice. Because he's saying you only got hot because you were riding trends. And they talk about when you get older, the money's gonna slow up and people the. The show's a lot lighter because they don't show up. And he's basically saying how you were only hot because you were doing this silly acid rap which people 15 year old white boys like for a summer and then it goes. But then you've. Now you've wasted your money on jewels and whatever. You haven't retired your parents, you haven't bought a home. And he was saying exactly this. That you're riding makes me want to. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Strip naked and jump in. [00:52:10] Speaker B: Well, just the name already. Is this someone who's gonna write quality music? No, because this is what it's. This is what it's about. [00:52:15] Speaker C: Name's kind of sauce as well. I don't know why. [00:52:17] Speaker A: It's a little bit like a self burn. [00:52:21] Speaker C: I'll give you a little pump. [00:52:23] Speaker B: It's a little bit. [00:52:26] Speaker C: But obviously that was what it was back in the time and. Yeah. And to add to your point about that flash in the pan moment, I feel like you'll relate to this where substance wins over time. And I've seen this because I've been to one of your shows and I'm sure you've seen a clip of one of my shows that totally. Those people who do operate on the flash in the pan moments when it comes to time to showcase artistry and have a show. [00:52:50] Speaker A: There you go. [00:52:50] Speaker C: You don't see that many people there. No, you do not. Yet us who do tend to. We've had the grinding. [00:52:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Put the ground slower. [00:52:59] Speaker C: Yeah. We put the groundwork where if, if we were to base it off algorithmic numbers like tick tock and whatever, then we wouldn't compare yet. Our shows will be packed out venues. Why? Because you people connect. People connect with real people. [00:53:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:16] Speaker C: People don't connect with trends. [00:53:18] Speaker B: People. [00:53:18] Speaker A: Those numbers don't reflect real life. They don't at all. [00:53:20] Speaker C: Like, they honestly don't. And I've seen it time and time again, man. Where. Because I work in nightlife as well. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:26] Speaker C: And I've seen it where clubs have booked an artist because of their tick tock following. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Yeah. That's outrageous. [00:53:31] Speaker C: And then like someone has 100k followers. You go to the night and you see 10 people in the gaffe. [00:53:37] Speaker A: This is it. The industry just can't work out. [00:53:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:53:40] Speaker A: What to do right now because it's like we need to keep up but we don't understand we said this, though. [00:53:44] Speaker B: How many of your favorite artists ever never would have made it? This is a girl that went viral, said how Tom York's gonna be going. This is the song of the summer. [00:53:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:52] Speaker B: You would never hear of loads of your favorites because they're not out here on Instagram and they're on stuff like that you would never hear. [00:53:58] Speaker A: Exactly. And this is why it kind of like it. It shatters all of my hope as well, because the two artists that I would kill to be, like a Frank Ocean and James Blake, both of them massively famous, walk down the street. No one knows who they are. Do you know what I mean? Like, I could walk up to 10 people out there and 10 of them wouldn't know who they are. [00:54:13] Speaker C: The James Blake boy. [00:54:14] Speaker A: I mean, like, James Blake's worked with everybody on the planet and, like, he's got a career that I would, like, massacre children for. Like, I love. [00:54:23] Speaker B: That's the point. [00:54:28] Speaker A: But, like, at the same time, the man is completely like, you could walk down the street and nobody knows who he is. [00:54:33] Speaker B: Well, they might assume he plays ball as well. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Because he's, like, deceivingly massive. [00:54:37] Speaker B: Why has he got. Got the voice like that? [00:54:40] Speaker A: But also shout out James Blake as well for actually sticking up for artists and fighting the industry. [00:54:44] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, massively. [00:54:45] Speaker A: That was another thing. When we were talking before, like, we did a clip on that ages ago when he first started his platform, trying to do it, and we thought we were really cool journalists. It was really cool. And they got about 10 views. Yeah, people don't hear that scream with a prick. And it like, blew up. Okay, whatever. But anyways, but one more thing. Yeah. Because. And I won't again, we won't name drop him because hopefully we'll get another podcast. Yeah, we know. We know a few people that have been signed by, like, a big, big, big money deals because labels were like, you look on TikTok, we don't know how to keep up. [00:55:11] Speaker B: I knew this is what he's talking about. [00:55:13] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, we'll keep that quiet. But that's exactly what I'm talking about. [00:55:16] Speaker B: Yeah, if I. [00:55:17] Speaker A: Look, if we're not talking about. If we're not gonna say who it is. It was like 300k, I believe, on one video. Well, no, they had one tune that blown up on TikTok because the person in question had paid a lot of influencers to, like, post their tune. And it worked. Like, don't get me wrong, it worked. You know, and it popped off. And honest To God. I think especially anyone under 25 knows the song. Absolutely knows the song. So to be fair, like, it popped off and everything. But it's like the labels were like, okay. They were. They were basically like guinea pigs for this new era of, like, trying to. Do not play it out. Do not play the song. Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, these labels were like, okay, well, they're the biggest thing, so we'll throw money at them. And then they sent them on this run of shows and they, like, the six months they had over summer looked incredible. They were playing mad festivals and everything. And then they were dropped. [00:56:06] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's how the label journey goes. [00:56:08] Speaker A: Exactly. But they were like, oh, hang on. You know, Because I can't drop in. [00:56:14] Speaker C: That short a time. [00:56:15] Speaker A: Pretty much. It was. It was less than a year, wasn't it? [00:56:17] Speaker D: Yeah, it was literally like nine months after the festival period. And a bit. [00:56:22] Speaker B: It's because they've squeezed as much as they can and it's thrown away. It's. Who's the next hot thing? [00:56:25] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:56:26] Speaker B: Which is. [00:56:26] Speaker A: Which is hard, I mean, because it was a song. Well, it wasn't it the song on Spotify. I mean, don't get me wrong, they've got mad streams on Spotify, but it was the video, like, the sound on Tik Tok that had blown up. Yeah, but throwing 300k at someone for that, that's. [00:56:39] Speaker C: Labels are dumb in it. [00:56:40] Speaker D: Like, that's how they. That's. That's the thing is they tried to adapt to the newly, like, generation. [00:56:45] Speaker A: Frantically catch up. [00:56:46] Speaker C: Labels don't understand. That's why they do these things. [00:56:50] Speaker A: But it's why they're obsolete now. That's why we don't need them in that. [00:56:52] Speaker B: This thing with Chance, we all had. [00:56:53] Speaker A: Their money, we'd all be famous. It's not. [00:56:55] Speaker C: Not marketing because we don't have a R's anymore. [00:56:58] Speaker A: Yes, man. [00:56:59] Speaker C: We've lost the people with the ear. A RS used to find the talent and be like, yeah, yeah, I can hear where this is gonna be. [00:57:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:09] Speaker C: Whereas labels look at. Where are we at? [00:57:11] Speaker B: Where the numbers. Yeah, that's what it is. Who's. Who's popping? [00:57:14] Speaker C: Who's popping? Where's. [00:57:15] Speaker A: Exactly. Like, at the end of the day, if I'm already popping, why do I need a label? You're supposed to make me pop. That's the whole point of a record label. And they just. It's not like that anymore. [00:57:24] Speaker C: And not just that. With the. The age of Internet, like, and shout out all the artists doing it at Home, man. Like self sufficiency. Self sufficiency is what it is now. Like, you don't need a label deal. These artists on label deals are in worse situations than you. [00:57:41] Speaker A: How many times it looks great online. [00:57:42] Speaker C: It looks great online. That picture when you signed the papers. Thousand likes. Cool. [00:57:48] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [00:57:48] Speaker C: What about eight, nine months later and you. Can I please release a song? [00:57:53] Speaker A: No. [00:57:53] Speaker C: Imagine asking to release your craft. Yeah, yeah, it's. [00:57:58] Speaker A: And then you don't own it anyway. [00:57:59] Speaker C: And then you don't own it. And then you're in debt now because, yeah, you got an advance, but you got to pay that money back. [00:58:04] Speaker A: And that's a common misconception as well. That money all comes back. They're basically lending the money for you to make it back for him, and then he. You off anyway. [00:58:12] Speaker C: Literally. I'd rather just be a broke artist than be in debt. [00:58:16] Speaker B: It. [00:58:16] Speaker C: This is it to a label. [00:58:17] Speaker B: And also, don't forget, when you're in the label, not only are you broke and they've got. They control. They control your sound, your image. They go, yeah, but it's popping now that you need to be wearing like this. We need you to do glitter on your face. You go, I don't really. I don't really roll like that. They go, it doesn't matter. You're now glitter face 9000. That's how it is. [00:58:34] Speaker C: Contract Mr. Glitter face. That's what it is. [00:58:36] Speaker B: No longer his own. [00:58:37] Speaker A: When I check the fine print. [00:58:38] Speaker B: You said you were not for glitter. Oh, we're gonna keep it going on because we still got a lot. [00:58:43] Speaker A: Yeah, Because I will fight the industry for three hours. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Do you want to go on your Kanye, the Grammys piece that you bought? [00:58:47] Speaker A: Oh, my God. Yeah. Just. So did we. Did we all see? Right, okay. So. So for the listeners filmed. Yeah, for the listeners. So apparently Kanye and his wife Bianca were not invited to the Grammys, and they just rocked off at the red carpet. [00:59:01] Speaker B: It's a very. Yay. [00:59:02] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Because everyone was like, it. We've not seen yay on a red carpet for a long time. [00:59:05] Speaker B: They weren't going to turn him away, though, were they? [00:59:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So have we all seen the clip of them all? The moment she drops her coat? [00:59:10] Speaker B: I have not seen said clip. [00:59:12] Speaker A: It's the most bizarre moment. [00:59:13] Speaker C: It does look a bit uncomfortable in the world. [00:59:15] Speaker A: And I'm. And I'm like, have you seen the. [00:59:17] Speaker C: Lip readers covering it? [00:59:18] Speaker A: So I haven't. I've seen a lot of people analyzing just the body language. But I did want to Look, I actually saw the comment of people saying, like, tag me when the lip readers are back. So I haven't seen that yet. And I'm very intrigued. [00:59:30] Speaker C: Check the lip readers. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. [00:59:31] Speaker C: Because some of them are chatting west. [00:59:33] Speaker A: Well, this is, this is it. Because. And ironically, today, before we did this, it's almost pulled me back a little bit because. Because ye's posted an article that was on some, like, Vogue magazine or whatever, and it was about like, apparently Bianca did this for some kind of feminine power, like, stance or whatever, but it doesn't take a genius to see the moment she pulls a cut off and like, she looks at him and he's like, he's effectively like, get it off. You know what I mean? And she's like a handler. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:00:00] Speaker B: The fact you have to. [01:00:01] Speaker A: But her face is terrific. It's, it's, it's uncomfortable to look at before she drops a keck. Like, her face look real uncomfortable. And he is like, no, come on. You said you're doing this. Get it off. [01:00:10] Speaker B: It's sad because that's my goat. Remember you said in Violent Crimes, I used to see women as something to conquer. Now, wait, I used to see someone. Something to conquer. [01:00:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Now something to nurture. [01:00:19] Speaker B: What's the bother? [01:00:19] Speaker A: It's either that or it's the other way around. [01:00:21] Speaker B: It's something like that. But you used to see women like this, and now it seem like this. And it's mad because. No, you're not. [01:00:25] Speaker A: This is what I mean. Because I, I, I'm like, just as a life lesson, I always try and not to judge on just what you see, face value. Because obviously 90% of the Internet are going, well, well, she looks uncomfortable. And we've just painted our whole scene. [01:00:38] Speaker B: Right. [01:00:38] Speaker A: But then, like, we don't know. And that's not me defending him. [01:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:42] Speaker A: I just, I don't know because at the end of the day, if then she was, she was like, one of the names on this article that had, like, that was, that had given her two pence on it. And it was supposed to be about a moment of power for women. So if that was, if that's what she wanted, then fair play. [01:00:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:56] Speaker A: You know, and who are we to tell? But is that what happened? [01:00:59] Speaker B: It didn't look, though. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Because it didn't look like she felt power. Exactly. It didn't look like that. [01:01:04] Speaker C: She looked powerless. [01:01:05] Speaker A: She didn't look like that. [01:01:06] Speaker B: The message off, it looked like, yay. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Going, we're gonna show them how women are powerful. Drop your pants. [01:01:12] Speaker B: Such an ironic. [01:01:13] Speaker A: I just don't know. [01:01:14] Speaker C: The yay thing to do now, isn't it? [01:01:16] Speaker B: It is a yay thing to do. [01:01:17] Speaker C: And it's sad to see because then. [01:01:19] Speaker A: You'Ve got everyone coming out that have known her her whole life and going, oh, she used to be like this sweet little girl. And then she met yay and was like. And there's a change. But then it's like, well, I don't know. [01:01:28] Speaker C: I think the industry got to it. Man. [01:01:30] Speaker A: That's awesome. [01:01:31] Speaker C: Because let's look at when he was releasing gospel music. Yeah, yeah. [01:01:38] Speaker A: Or the 10 minutes of him not swearing. [01:01:40] Speaker C: Yeah. And then dropping merch. [01:01:43] Speaker A: Yes. [01:01:43] Speaker B: For merch. [01:01:44] Speaker C: Anyone, you know? And then straight after, then you're working with Playboi Carti, who this I always thought was straight open Satanist, because he always said that. [01:01:53] Speaker B: He literally said that. [01:01:54] Speaker C: Marilyn Manson at the performance. Let's not forget that. [01:01:57] Speaker B: Here's my. Because he said right after that, I won't be working with any artists anymore who are under the influence to win the Illuminati. [01:02:02] Speaker A: He said he wasn't gonna perform any. [01:02:03] Speaker B: Of his songs with the first thing with Donda. And then I was listening to Playboy. Cart is very famous ad lib. I was like, oh, this is crazy. Because you could not have got someone. You might as well. [01:02:13] Speaker C: That is the last person. It is the last. The only way it could have gotten worse is Uzi. Yeah. [01:02:20] Speaker B: He would have got the trifecta if. [01:02:22] Speaker C: He got him Unholy Trinity, bro. Honestly. So since that. That point, I feel like he's lost. [01:02:30] Speaker B: He's in the Sunken Place. [01:02:31] Speaker C: He's in the Sunken Place. [01:02:32] Speaker B: He's lost. [01:02:33] Speaker C: Tangibly. [01:02:33] Speaker A: Yeah. What's mad is I saw him say the other day on. Have you watched that? It's called, like, the Download that long interview. [01:02:38] Speaker B: It's the most coherent I've heard him in a while. [01:02:40] Speaker A: Absolutely. And this is, again, what confuses me. Exactly. But when you see him in clips and talking to paparazzi, he looks like he's wired. But then when it's in his environment and he's talking, he sounds fine. So the guide messes with my head. Anyway. But he was talking. [01:02:55] Speaker C: Sorry, just turned into Twitter. Was easy. [01:02:58] Speaker A: Anyway. And yeah, he was talking about the fact that basically he believes he's not bipolar, he's autistic. I mean, fair play. [01:03:06] Speaker B: He believes he's not autistic. [01:03:07] Speaker A: He believes he's not bipolar. He's autistic. [01:03:10] Speaker B: But he said, I love being bipolar. It's awesome. [01:03:12] Speaker A: Exactly. And he was talking in that he said that he kind of, like. Because he's. I can't remember what he said because I watched the whole thing, but he was basically on the lines. He tried to own the narrative, and he. And he regrets it because he put the label on him himself, I mean. But, like, so basically, I mean, of course he's autistic. [01:03:27] Speaker B: You know, I mean, like, he's a. He's a. He's a tricky character, though. He is like, you remember a character. [01:03:33] Speaker A: I feel. I feel like now, because he. He's trying. He knows he's autistic and he's trying to own his neurodiversion or whatever. I feel like he's off his meds and he's doing whatever he wants. And that is just danger and chaos. [01:03:44] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:03:45] Speaker A: I mean, because he's. He's clearly a man that needs to be pulled back sometimes. [01:03:48] Speaker C: And it's the. This is the problem, though, because when you have that level of influence, let's be honest, celebrities are a bit weird. [01:03:57] Speaker B: We've covered many episodes. [01:04:00] Speaker A: He's a pretty good example of that. [01:04:02] Speaker C: Great, great example of this. So it's like. But the problem is, when they get to that level, people allow them to do what they want. I mean, case in point. I watched a short documentary on Travis Scott. Apparently, Travis Scott is an absolute vile of a human being in how he treats other people. [01:04:18] Speaker B: People, probably. [01:04:18] Speaker C: Yeah. And then it starts tying in when you see these clips of him banging laptops and banging. [01:04:23] Speaker B: That was crazy. That was just weird. [01:04:25] Speaker C: Apparently that's what he does even in studios. Like. [01:04:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:27] Speaker C: With engineers talking about, you're nothing. Fucking re. Record this shit. Like, that's who he is. But he's Travis Scott. Who's gonna tell him? [01:04:36] Speaker D: No, they referenced that in Atlanta. That's who it's about. It's. I think Paperboy and Darius, like, go to a studio and it's like this rapper's, like, going in on his sound tech who's having, like, logics crashing ye. And he basically gets his bodyman to, like, beat him up and tell everyone else to leave. And that's based on a Travis Scott story. [01:04:57] Speaker B: That's not surprising. [01:04:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:58] Speaker C: And it's like, what do you do? Because he's still Travis Scott. He's still gonna sell records. People are still gonna work with him. [01:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And who's powerful enough to be above that? And tell him to the label. [01:05:11] Speaker C: Okay. [01:05:11] Speaker B: The label. [01:05:12] Speaker C: Like, the label going, sweet. [01:05:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Any press is good press. Keep going. [01:05:14] Speaker C: Keep it going viral. Clip, clip. Put it on TikTok. So yeah, man, it's a horrible place, the music scene. [01:05:21] Speaker A: Rather be a poor musician. [01:05:23] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. [01:05:24] Speaker B: Keep your integrity and your family members. [01:05:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah, but that. Speaking of which, just a very, very quick tangent. Has anyone seen that clip of Elton John that's gone viral today? Yesterday? No, he's been back in the studio recording album, first time, six years. [01:05:39] Speaker B: Wherever he had his last tour ever. [01:05:41] Speaker A: That his last five tours have been his last tour. [01:05:43] Speaker B: Calm. Carry on. [01:05:44] Speaker A: Yeah, but. [01:05:45] Speaker C: And John quitted like 2,000. [01:05:46] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. So if I, I think that's. Oh, go and describe anyway the clip. So it is him. It's him in the studio and he's like. I mean anyone over, anyone over our age anyway knows. Knows Elton John being a mad ass. I don't. Yeah, this is it. Okay. And he's just spitting his dummy out everywhere, like picking the headphones up with these irritating things and throwing them on the floor and he's shouting at everyone and just being. [01:06:10] Speaker B: Why would he want to post that? [01:06:11] Speaker A: And it. Well, no, he didn't post it. It like got leaked or whatever. And then he's come out today going, oh, I was like really overwhelmed and stressed. But to be fair, I noticed, I was that this, this guy that was in the background then in the long white T shirt. There you go. That's before in the headphones. He actually goes, Elton, I'm trying to help. Chill out. And I was like, fair play. Because this man is like to Elton John is. Yeah, he's as big as it gets. To talk back to him in the studio. But if someone was. You've. You've got to watch this clip after. [01:06:39] Speaker B: Basically, I'll watch it. [01:06:40] Speaker A: It's insane. [01:06:40] Speaker B: If you're a man who's in your legs. [01:06:42] Speaker A: He went, I'm done. Ripped up all of his lyrics and threw it and said, I'm going now. [01:06:45] Speaker B: Now, if you're a white man in your late 60s, you're wearing a two piece Gucci tracksuit. [01:06:50] Speaker D: Talk about this, bro. [01:06:51] Speaker B: This is the kind of going on, bro. [01:06:54] Speaker A: He's older. You're being generous. I think he's late 70s. [01:06:57] Speaker B: That's a. That is a DJ Khaled fit. And it's because it's DJ college. You go fair. [01:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:07:02] Speaker B: You're not Elton John 77. [01:07:04] Speaker C: See keeps dying. [01:07:06] Speaker B: Would you see McCartney wearing a Nike tracksuit? A tech fleece tracksuit? [01:07:11] Speaker A: No, the image of Paul McCartney with Central C dabbing him up. [01:07:16] Speaker C: I mean he's dressed like. He's beyond cheetham Hill. [01:07:20] Speaker B: It does. [01:07:20] Speaker A: Look at the watch and all. It was just super embarrassing to watch anyway. But we were talking about, like, not pulling up on artists. [01:07:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:27] Speaker A: I felt like the producer in the room was like, look, you might be Elton John, but, like, no one's gonna listen to this album, so maybe chill out a little bit. [01:07:32] Speaker C: 77. [01:07:33] Speaker A: Yeah, man. [01:07:33] Speaker C: Nah, that's died, bro. [01:07:37] Speaker B: Anyway, moving on, some of us as well. For every artist that's come on is to give us their Mount Rushmore of artists. So that's four names that are on that Stone Hill for you. [01:07:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:48] Speaker B: Who are. [01:07:48] Speaker A: Said four names rescue you a little bit before as well. And you're saying you'd rather do artists. This is our. [01:07:53] Speaker B: This is. This is. [01:07:54] Speaker A: This is your moment. [01:07:55] Speaker C: Number one. [01:07:55] Speaker B: Go. [01:07:56] Speaker C: Michael Jackson. [01:07:58] Speaker B: Yes. 100. [01:07:59] Speaker C: King of pop. [01:08:00] Speaker B: We love it. Big fan. Big fans of Michael over here. [01:08:03] Speaker A: 100. [01:08:03] Speaker B: We love it. [01:08:04] Speaker A: I'll defend him till the day I die. [01:08:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:05] Speaker C: I have to love it. [01:08:07] Speaker A: Michael's innocent. [01:08:08] Speaker C: The dude made people faint. Just stood there like, we will never see. [01:08:12] Speaker B: There's never a character level. [01:08:13] Speaker A: Harry Styles could never. [01:08:15] Speaker B: No one could ever. [01:08:16] Speaker C: No one can ever. And Drake thought he could, like, imagine. [01:08:19] Speaker A: Teaching in schools these days and being in my shoes now and talking to people and Michael Jackson. Who. Who literally, I mean, I'm talking about 12 year olds. Taylor Swift. Who do you. I mean, I'm not even into Taylor Swift. I don't even like Taylor Swift. But there's like, if. If it's over three years ago, it didn't exist to these kids. I mean, so Michael Jackson. [01:08:39] Speaker B: Michael Jackson a lot differently. [01:08:41] Speaker A: Michael Jackson recently. [01:08:43] Speaker C: Number two. I'm gonna put Kanye on there. [01:08:47] Speaker B: Love it. As you show us. [01:08:48] Speaker C: I'll put Kanye over Drake because. No, no Kanye. There's no Drake. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:08:53] Speaker B: So this is my mat Rushmore so far. Yeah. Michael and who else? [01:08:58] Speaker C: Number three. I'm gonna step outside of people who made music. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Music. [01:09:02] Speaker C: But I'm gonna go producer. [01:09:03] Speaker B: Oh, I like it. [01:09:04] Speaker C: Timberland. [01:09:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:05] Speaker A: I like it because Timber is responsible for so much. [01:09:10] Speaker C: So many sounds, so many hits. Just. We wouldn't have Justin Timberlake as we know him today without Timbaland. And he's a legend in his own right. [01:09:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:09:18] Speaker A: Timbaland and the Neptunes just dominated the charts for like, three years. Yeah. [01:09:21] Speaker C: So definitely Timberland. Number four to close it out. [01:09:26] Speaker B: It's your last pick. [01:09:28] Speaker C: So I've got the past, not the present. [01:09:31] Speaker A: I like that. [01:09:32] Speaker C: And I've got a producer. [01:09:33] Speaker B: What you chugging in the future? [01:09:36] Speaker C: Nah, nah. I wouldn't imagine future on there. [01:09:41] Speaker B: Not future, future. [01:09:44] Speaker C: Sensation. [01:09:47] Speaker B: You got three. Three Americans. [01:09:49] Speaker C: Yeah, three Americans. [01:09:50] Speaker B: Oh, three black guys. [01:09:53] Speaker C: Oh, oh, that's a good point. That's a good point. Mean can you put groups? [01:09:58] Speaker B: You can put grouping. [01:09:58] Speaker A: Yeah, go on. [01:09:59] Speaker B: You can put group. [01:10:00] Speaker C: Really put the Beatles. [01:10:02] Speaker B: That's a really nice. [01:10:04] Speaker C: Because I feel like the Beatles inspired generate like I've been inspired by the Beatles even in songs and they came out what 60s? [01:10:12] Speaker A: Yeah man. [01:10:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:13] Speaker A: So they were tor in Germany in the 50s. Insane. [01:10:17] Speaker C: So for me I'm gonna say Beatles for sure. And just cuz I mean to come from all the way to England to. [01:10:22] Speaker B: You got to think no Internet as well. No Internet, you're the biggest band ever. No Internet, you're on word of mouth newspapers and TV that most people don't have. [01:10:31] Speaker A: They led an era that we call the British Invasion for a reason. [01:10:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:35] Speaker A: I mean like all the rock bands. [01:10:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:10:37] Speaker A: They took over the whole of America mad without the Internet. [01:10:42] Speaker C: Why is it that now that's not so much the case? [01:10:45] Speaker B: Because it's over saturated. [01:10:47] Speaker A: Yeah, good point. [01:10:48] Speaker B: Back then the, you know say the cream rises to the top. Like if you were going to make it, you had to be the best. I would say someone like Anderson Pack was always going to be famous because he's disgustingly talented and just has a look an image of he's got Magic Johnson smile. But he plays drums like that and sings like that and writes music like that. Do you know what I mean? But back then you had to be the best of the best. There was no Lil Pumps, there was no Tekashi 6 9ine. Everyone that's in the charts were people who were. Were the best at their field. Do you know what I mean? There was some for everyone. [01:11:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:19] Speaker B: Now what, what who's. Who's in the charts now that we would actually really go. That's a generational talent. Do you know what I mean? [01:11:26] Speaker C: That songs be going number one and you're like I've never even heard this song. [01:11:29] Speaker A: Oh my God. Yeah. So I've started to put songs in my set gigs just like function gigs that kids have told me about at school and that's how I feel old now. [01:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:38] Speaker A: I mean that stick season tune that I don't know if you've heard it. No, you will have heard it. I'm sure you. [01:11:43] Speaker B: That's the point though, what you say. [01:11:44] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. And I go in and play at a bar and everyone knows it. And I'm like, do you see that? [01:11:47] Speaker B: They start Benson Boone Playing the ground. [01:11:51] Speaker A: Who the is this guy? [01:11:52] Speaker B: He's got 40 million monthly listeners. I couldn't tell you one song of him. And I don't know who that is. Who is this guy? [01:11:58] Speaker C: Oh, the dude who did the flip in the blue. [01:12:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:12:02] Speaker B: Don't know who that is. Massive. Like, I think I'm thinking, am I really out the culture? But I didn't think I was, but I think. [01:12:10] Speaker C: Think algorithms have segmented us. So. [01:12:12] Speaker A: Yeah. This is the Sabrina Carpenter side of things. Yeah. [01:12:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Is that what it is, Billie Eilish? [01:12:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:12:17] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:18] Speaker C: If you're not on that side of the. [01:12:19] Speaker A: If you grew up watching Camp Rock in High School Musical, you like this guy or Jonah? Yeah, man. [01:12:24] Speaker D: It kind of looks like. What is it? Like what Daphne or Velma wore in the Scooby Doo. [01:12:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It does look a bit like a blue condom. [01:12:32] Speaker C: It does. [01:12:33] Speaker B: But what I'm like, who are you? Oh, Mert. [01:12:36] Speaker A: Me? [01:12:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:12:36] Speaker D: That was Papa Smith Johnson. [01:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty. [01:12:38] Speaker A: It looks like Aaron Taylor Johnson, doesn't he? [01:12:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I see that. [01:12:40] Speaker C: You can tell the inspiration from Freddie Mercury if Splinter. Can you pull that coming back? [01:12:44] Speaker B: I know I haven't heard that song and I just. [01:12:46] Speaker A: So we're watching. We're watching Benson Boone do backflips and being right there. [01:12:49] Speaker B: Right there. [01:12:50] Speaker C: If you see his body movements. [01:12:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that was Freddie. That, wasn't it. If he had the, like, just the end of a mic standing in his hand. [01:12:57] Speaker B: Little. Little flip. [01:12:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:01] Speaker B: Imagine he just licks both of his ankles off the. Off the ground. [01:13:04] Speaker A: That just hurt my bad knee looking at that. [01:13:06] Speaker B: I haven't heard this song, but there's no way doing that. There's no part of that song that needs that flip. [01:13:12] Speaker C: I know his music does. [01:13:13] Speaker B: He doesn't need it. I just know it. [01:13:15] Speaker A: Yeah. What you don't know he's actually covering Fiend by Playboy Car. [01:13:18] Speaker B: Well, that would be a good fit. [01:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why he's doing backflips anyway. [01:13:24] Speaker B: Right. Should move it on. [01:13:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:26] Speaker B: For this year. What's up next for you? What are the plans for this year? Have you guys something coming out? [01:13:31] Speaker C: Yes, I've got a song dropping this month. Rotate first song, like exclusive eight months, which has been performed exclusively on Feel Weird. So I'm excited for that one. I've got a lot planned this year. I think these last two years has been me rediscovering myself. I've got a couple shows planned this year. Headline shows as well. Well, last headline show was 2022. [01:13:58] Speaker B: So it's been a minute. [01:13:59] Speaker C: It's been a minute. [01:13:59] Speaker B: You've been itching to get back on stage. [01:14:01] Speaker C: Yeah, man. Like, don't get me wrong, I've been on stages, but it's always like low key stuff. [01:14:05] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:06] Speaker A: And I don't know about you, but like when it's work stuff, it feels like a different hat done. [01:14:09] Speaker C: It's different you. It's different to when you. You've curated this baby. Yeah. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Your soul out there. [01:14:17] Speaker B: This is. [01:14:17] Speaker C: This is the experience type of thing. So now I'm excited, man. And it seems like, I don't know, I feel like these two years I've been building my brand and now there's a lot more people who've got eyes on me. So it's like now when I'm coming back out with this, I'd like to say more developed product. [01:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:34] Speaker C: That is more refined. I'm just so excited, so excited. Like, yeah, so definitely shows, listening, parties and who knows what else because we're in January and I've written already. Got so much lined up already that fell into my lap. So, yeah, love it. [01:14:54] Speaker B: Great. [01:14:54] Speaker A: A lot can happen in a year, bro. [01:14:55] Speaker B: A lot. Like we said, we're having you on next time when the video games out and we'll recap on everything, however long. [01:15:02] Speaker C: That'll be like a time time capsule. [01:15:05] Speaker B: A little time jump and see where we're up to. But I think that's. That's us. Thank you for coming on the show. [01:15:10] Speaker C: Thank you very much for having me, guys. [01:15:13] Speaker B: It's been a joy time. [01:15:14] Speaker C: Check out Feel Weird Studios, yo. [01:15:17] Speaker B: Follow us on all platforms in the bio. [01:15:20] Speaker C: So check him out, honestly. [01:15:22] Speaker A: But yeah, absolutely. And I also wanted to say before you round down, we hit over a thousand followers now on Instagram. Well done Time. Thank you everybody for the support. We've had some mad support recently. [01:15:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:34] Speaker A: And we have some very big announcements to come. [01:15:37] Speaker B: Very big announcements, don't we? We certainly do. [01:15:39] Speaker A: So we'll keep that. Keep your eyes peeled for that. That and hopefully I'm over is going to come back for that. He doesn't even know it yet. [01:15:46] Speaker C: Shout out Splinter as well. [01:15:47] Speaker A: Yeah, big man. Exactly. Splinter looks so sick over there. He's got a desk now. Double laptop. [01:15:52] Speaker D: Upgraded. Upgraded from being on the corner of the sofa. [01:15:56] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:15:56] Speaker C: You are the man in the chair now. [01:15:58] Speaker A: Absolutely. He's our tech guy. [01:15:59] Speaker D: I like to think of like Ned from like the most recent Spider man. [01:16:03] Speaker C: Like spinning chair though, the game one where he's got mechs and robots going out. [01:16:09] Speaker D: That's on my list. I got PS5. [01:16:11] Speaker B: Christmas. [01:16:11] Speaker D: I'm playing that. [01:16:13] Speaker B: So jealous. [01:16:14] Speaker A: Anyway, beautiful stuff, everybody. Thanks for another great episode. [01:16:18] Speaker C: See you later. [01:16:31] Speaker A: Welcome to the Feeling Podcast.