Episode Transcript
[00:00:11] Speaker A: Hello.
[00:00:11] Speaker B: Welcome to the Fillwood podcast, brought to you by Fillwood Studios. And we are back again for a part two of our conspiracies, courts and conspiracies, courts and conspiracies, courts and conspiracies. Because, as expected, it took us forever.
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Last week, it took us 40 minutes to get to any of the topics we wanted to.
[00:00:24] Speaker B: I mean, that's a good point. We waffled too much about Gene two, which I do not regret, because Gene two was excellent.
[00:00:28] Speaker A: It was worthy of the time we gave it.
[00:00:30] Speaker B: I know that feels like a rush, but I'm going to segue straight into the fact that I finally watched June 2.
[00:00:35] Speaker A: You didn't have this platform last week.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: Yeah. So obviously, the last episode is Liam, quite rightly, banging on about June 2. And I was in the dark still.
[00:00:43] Speaker A: It was.
[00:00:44] Speaker B: I am no longer in the dark. I have seen the light.
[00:00:46] Speaker A: You've seen the light.
[00:00:47] Speaker B: I have seen the revolution of cinema.
[00:00:49] Speaker A: You've been doing this with your spoon before.
[00:00:50] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:00:51] Speaker A: Lizard, that's not.
[00:00:53] Speaker B: I know. It's pretty good.
Like, honestly, I mean, we spoke way too long on it last week, so I promised you I wasn't going to do this.
I can't stop thinking about it. It's. It's shit's all I've. As we said last time, I'm a massive Star wars fan, massive Marvel fan, blah, blah, blah. It's fucking shit on all of it. It's just shit on all of it. And it's. Because not only is it a great Sci-Fi film and it's loyal to the books and all this shit, it's just a fantastic film cinematically.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: It's just you need to. Unlike the newest Star Wars Marvel films, whatever, you don't need to have read or consumed a plethora of information before you go in. You're good to go. If you didn't even watch the first one, you could watch and go, some things might have gone over your head. But overall, that's a great film.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: I mean, I definitely. I don't know about that because it was fucking confusing.
[00:01:40] Speaker A: No, it was.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: But I think visual. Oh, here's a film.
[00:01:42] Speaker A: Yeah, there's an actual movie.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: Overall, still amazing.
[00:01:45] Speaker A: Stunning. If you thought that was as bad as the Godfather.
[00:01:48] Speaker B: I know. Yeah.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: Wild.
[00:01:50] Speaker B: Someone said we were talking about last week, but, you know, people saying, oh, it could be better than Empire Strike. That makes Empire strikes back look like a fucking GCSE movie. Film, media studies.
[00:02:00] Speaker A: Well, we obviously speak about getting his debut, but because we don't actually have him here today.
[00:02:04] Speaker B: All right.
[00:02:05] Speaker A: The new assistant.
[00:02:07] Speaker B: I think he's apprentice Fitch boy we need to figure out a name for.
[00:02:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's 1981, because 77 is when New Hope came out, and I'm almost certain, but the books were.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: Mid seventies, am I right?
[00:02:16] Speaker A: Yeah, something like that. But I'm saying I think it's 81 when Empire came out. So you're talking. Still 40.
[00:02:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. And this is the thing. There's no, like, this is why I don't think Star wars fans should be ashamed or, like, hesitant to admit that June's gonna walk all over it. Because I feel like, if anything, June's learned from Star wars mistakes.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: Also, no one hates Star wars more than Star wars fans.
[00:02:36] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Honestly.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: So they were. They're fine to do that.
[00:02:39] Speaker B: No one hates Star wars more than Star wars fans either.
[00:02:41] Speaker A: What do you think I just said?
[00:02:42] Speaker B: You said.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: I just said.
[00:02:44] Speaker B: Did you say exactly that?
[00:02:45] Speaker A: I said exactly that. You just repeated it. Yeah, but no one else thinks that it is, so. Yeah. Nice.
[00:02:50] Speaker B: Right. Anyway, so, Liam, then let's get carried away quickly. What is your song of the week?
[00:02:55] Speaker A: Song of the week is back to me by the rose. Only just because I've just seen them and they were unreal.com. I thought you were going to say.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: Sorry back to me.
[00:03:03] Speaker A: Can you insert clip?
Thank you. They were really, really good. They're really, really good. I've never been to Wembley arena for it. There's a good venue, like 12,000 people.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: And for all those western hemisphere naive musician fans, can you fill in who they are?
[00:03:19] Speaker A: The rows are basically 1975 if they were korean.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: And better looking.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: Okay. So k indy pop, but not even, like, it's pop.
[00:03:28] Speaker A: It's pop. It's more like how electronic. Like, coldplay is like electronic pop.
[00:03:33] Speaker B: Ah, right. Okay.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: Most of the time. But they have real instruments, but there's a lot of other sounds mixed in.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: Oh, it's proper band, isn't it? Yeah.
[00:03:38] Speaker A: So it's a proper band, but unreal. Great visuals, fantastic songwriting, a lot of historical businesses. It was unreal. They were really good. I think if you went in and you'd never heard anything, you were just in for a really good show, and they were great.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: Interesting shout out.
[00:03:53] Speaker A: My song of the week. Okay, go ahead.
[00:03:55] Speaker B: My song of the week is a song called pulling teeth by slow Joy. This tunes me like blowing up on TikTok a little bit. And it was one of the first times on TikTok that even though he's probably had 20 videos come from you, Paige? The first one caught me immediately and it's just like. It's just such a classic throwback to the kind of two thousands, almost like emo rock tunes.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: How old is he?
[00:04:16] Speaker B: The guy's probably like late twenties. No, he's a dude. Yeah. Maybe even early thirties. But it's proper, like Blink 182. But I don't know how to describe it. But it's just the classic gimo rock tune. But it's just fucking such a good chorus. And he's probably a tiny clip.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: Carry on. He's muffins TikTok a little bit.
[00:04:34] Speaker B: Exactly. But yeah. And he's one of the few where I'm glad to see that it's working really well for him. Like, this tune's blown up a fair bit and I'm definitely going to do a cover of it myself because it's a banger do.
[00:04:45] Speaker A: It sounds good anyway.
[00:04:46] Speaker B: Yeah, that's me. So what is your film of the week? Film of the week series?
[00:04:49] Speaker A: I have seen no films in the last week.
[00:04:52] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:04:52] Speaker A: Mine is the gentleman because I watched six and a half episodes yesterday.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: Oh, the series in a row.
[00:04:57] Speaker A: Because I saw. You watched.
[00:04:58] Speaker B: I watched it.
[00:04:58] Speaker A: Yours, mine. And then I was like, we're gonna watch it. First episode in locked it. I'm such a guy Ritchie fan and to see him just deliver on his style so effortlessly.
[00:05:09] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. The vision consistent in it.
[00:05:11] Speaker A: The right is every character feels so fleshed out and so dramatic, but it fits perfectly. Like, you know, Jimmy, the one who grows all the plants in there.
[00:05:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, with the little hat.
[00:05:24] Speaker A: He said something.
He said at one point, he said when he talked about the van disappearing like smoke from a kettle. Like steam from a kettle. But there's loads of bits where people say things like, that's the most poetic thing I've ever heard.
[00:05:34] Speaker B: Well, he's a stoner, isn't he?
Never feels.
[00:05:37] Speaker A: Because in the character, even the stupidest character in a guy Ritchie film is going to have the most gorgeous dialogue.
[00:05:43] Speaker B: His tongue.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Also, my favorite thing is that all of his films where the toughest blokes are always called, like, sunshine or rainbows and what's Vinny Jones called? Blanket.
[00:05:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Vinnie Jones is called Jeff.
[00:05:52] Speaker A: With a g, which I hate, by the way. But the tough guy's called Blanket. And I love that in all of his films he's got a guy who's six, eight, who's, you know, 350 pounds and his name is awesome. Rainbow Daisies. Do you know what I mean? They go, Daisy's. Get the clippers out of the van. Daisies.
[00:06:08] Speaker B: Gotta get the clippers out of there.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: And it's. Oh, it's a great show. Like, I'm really locked into it.
[00:06:13] Speaker B: Fantastic.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: I don't. I'll say, though, really quick, if I let you go on it. Theo James is really good.
[00:06:19] Speaker B: Is that the main guy?
[00:06:20] Speaker A: The main guy. But I don't know if it's because he's half greek, half scottish, and because he's got quite a darker complexity.
He doesn't look like an aristocrat and he doesn't dress like him.
[00:06:30] Speaker B: Isn't that the point, though?
[00:06:31] Speaker A: But I think that is that he's so distant from them, so he kind of fits really well. But I wondered who else they might have thought to put him in.
[00:06:37] Speaker B: Plus, in the point, because I remember this, I forgot, you know, because it's been a week now. What's the main goal? The girl called that runs Suzie Glass, Susie was literally saying to. I think it was either a brother. She was like, the duke.
He's one of the only aristocrats.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: Yeah. There's twelve or something in the country. Twelve dukes in the country.
[00:06:55] Speaker B: He's one of the only ones that can play both sides. So maybe that's the point. That he's not supposed to be like a silver spoon, because his brother's clearly a punts and a prick in his. And that's kind of the point.
I was just actually just gonna say I've only watched the first three episodes, which I watched yours when I was looking after the dog. But I've been. We've been swapping the Netflix passwords between my mom and my sister's house. So I've just not logged on this week. And this is the reminder right now that I need to finish it because I completely finished.
[00:07:20] Speaker A: So good.
[00:07:21] Speaker B: And that segues onto the reason why I haven't finished it. My series of the week is lost.
[00:07:28] Speaker A: Oh, I see. We said you don't know if I've.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: Actually seen it or not, so I don't know.
I'm horrified that this hasn't had, like, you know, every series in ten years ago has, like, had a resurface recently.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:39] Speaker B: I don't understand how lost isn't, like, massive now. It's fucking brilliant. And I put off watching it my whole adult life. Cause I remember growing up, my mum and dad watched it.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it was the big show.
[00:07:49] Speaker B: Well, it was probably the first. Well, not the first, but it was one of the first. Kind of like the sopranos and stuff, you know, like those first big american shows. Yeah, it was really original as well. Like, it's got completely so bizarre, the concept and everything. The concept is so good. But, yeah, I put off watching it because mum and dad watched it, and I've seen glimpses of it growing up. Like, I recognize all the characters, but I didn't know anything about him. But I always remember my mom and dad being so disappointed that it just goes so downhill at the end. And then it was basically because they did that thing, which I absolutely despise.
[00:08:21] Speaker A: It was all a dream.
[00:08:22] Speaker B: Well, yeah, but also more the sake of, like, the right first and second series. And then the showrunners. Yeah, the showrunners go, this is sick. We need to carry on. He's like, I haven't written anymore, but okay. And it just clearly gets like, yeah.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: I've seen shows do this a million times where they've got an amazing, original idea. They go, this is perfect for three series. They go, network goes, we love it. Give us ten more. And you go, this be the worst show ever. We do ten.
[00:08:48] Speaker B: Yeah, there isn't ten more, like.
[00:08:49] Speaker A: And they just kind of rinse out either the same storylines or stuff. And you go, this isn't just fitting the narrative of what's happening here.
[00:08:57] Speaker B: And that, to be fair, is the reason why I'm. I am absolutely loving it. Like, it's the most infectious. I've never experienced cliffhangers, like, every episode. And I even said to my auntie the other day, like, I don't understand how back in the day, people would just go on with their week after watching that episode and have to wait a week because I'm, like, crippled on my knees when, like, how many of.
[00:09:16] Speaker A: You, what season you upset?
[00:09:17] Speaker B: I am near the end of series two. So Shane hammered through it.
[00:09:21] Speaker A: You're just gonna ask people, when does it get garbage? And just finish there and go, what a good show.
[00:09:25] Speaker B: I've had mixed reviews, but people are saying, I think these six series, and I've had people saying, stop around four or five. Well, they didn't go that far, but there is, like, 24 episodes, and they're, like, 45 minutes to an hour long. So it is a long show. But to be fair, I'm still in that point where it's, like, what they were trying to pull off is still in the midst of it, and it's really good. But I can see, like I said, everything's well fleshed out now, and obviously everything's linked. And that's the whole point. It's all very well thought out, but it is getting to that point. Well, it's not getting to point, but my point being. I'm rambling, but my point being is that, like, I can see now that if they lose their plan, they're just gonna just go in circles because I was basically told that there's lots of stuff, like, I mean, it's not really a spoiler, but obviously you've not seen it then, have you? So they're on an island, like, for example, one of the first episodes, I know a couple of sports, polar bear turns up and he's like. And for the first couple of episodes, there's like this monster scream in the forest in the jungle that sounds like a dinosaur or something. And I remember my mom saying to me. Cause she was. I watched the first two episodes with Lil's because Molly's watching it at the moment, basically. That's why she was shout out. She wanted me to watch it. But we stopped after three because my mum said all that stuff that they're going like, oh, my God, what is this? It just never finds out. And I was like, I ain't doing that then. I'm not doing it.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: That's the worst.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: And I put some on when we were eating tea because I couldn't be asked concentrating on anything. And then I got hooked. But, yeah, I do feel like there's lots of things that are really tempting me in and they're just not going to show me what it really is and I'm really not ready for that. So I'm ready to have a heartbroken, but I'm really enjoying it.
[00:10:52] Speaker A: Basically enjoy it for what you can then say, anyone who's going to start Thrones or tell if you're going to start Game Thrones, love it for seven seasons, go. I can see why this was hailed as going to be the best show of all time and it deserves every award. It just mercs for ten years. And then.
[00:11:08] Speaker B: Same with Walking Dead.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: Same with what? James just finished it.
[00:11:11] Speaker B: Finished it.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: He finished it. He went, I'm going to keep going. And he was like, that was in.
[00:11:15] Speaker B: The like eleven series there is.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: He finished it. And I said, are you going to watch any of the spin offs? Like four? I went, absolutely not. I told him that.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: He said.
[00:11:23] Speaker A: I said to him, right where you are, finish it because you've got a great show. Because things were like starting to dip down and whatever.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: I think the second that last episode, last episode of, I think either series five or series six, when Negan walks in and kills Glenn.
[00:11:36] Speaker A: And Glenn.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Don't even bother watching the next one because Negan is. Was, you know, put on this pedestal to be such a fantastic villain, then turns into the biggest bitch in the.
[00:11:45] Speaker A: World and then he joins the crew. Like, the mad thing is he's with, obviously I've not seen it, so what do I know? But he's then with Maggie. They're in a spin off.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:53] Speaker A: He kills her, man.
She despised him. Any sense that he would be anyone, that no matter the circumstance, she would go, I can't be asked.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: I don't understand how he can be right in the middle of loving it, though, and then put himself through that. Because, sorry, there's probably a point there where he's like, I think if it's eleven series, then I would say there's half and half.
The show is brilliant. Half the show is a waste of time.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: It is. But he knew this going in.
[00:12:19] Speaker B: Poor James.
[00:12:20] Speaker A: Poor James.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Anyway, so we've filled on, on that, though. So what do you want to carry on from? Do you want to pop in? Do you want to pop in some of these current themed topics or do you want to get straight into the conspiracies? Oh, no, you've got a game for us.
[00:12:34] Speaker A: No, I don't get the game. I just wanted to read you the superhero theme.
[00:12:37] Speaker B: I thought it was a game. Go for it.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: No, it's not a game. Basically, these are all superpowers that someone's put on a comment on videos and someone else was replied with a weakness for said superpower. I'm gonna drill some out of you. Listen to these. So I've not seen these yet either.
[00:12:49] Speaker B: Context. As our mates. Dave's done this.
[00:12:52] Speaker A: He's done this for us.
Why don't we get the best ones?
[00:12:55] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:12:56] Speaker A: Okay, here we go.
Ability to find. Ability to make anyone find you attractive until they reach puberty is your weakness for that.
[00:13:05] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:13:08] Speaker A: You can communicate with any man, of any animals in the world, providing you mate with them first.
They've got. Hold on, hold on. No, that's fantastic. That's a good one.
[00:13:19] Speaker B: Because I want to know right now, where'd you draw the line?
[00:13:22] Speaker A: There is no line. I'm just not doing it.
X ray vision. But you can only see the clothes of your relatives. You can only see through clothes of your relatives.
You're immortal, but you pull yourself four times a day. It's not even a good one. I can live with that. You can live with that. You can live with nappies to be immortal. You can complete any task at the click of your fingers. You have no hands. That's a good one.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: I could picture Dave busy himself doing this for a while.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: You can travel to any point in the future. Your pubes have grown relative to the time traveled.
[00:14:01] Speaker B: That's the best one.
[00:14:03] Speaker A: It's really creative. That's such a good one.
Forecast coming out of your ankles with bobby trousers. Correctly predict lottery numbers. You can only spend the winnings on jars of seawater.
Oh, that's a good one. You can shapeshift into anything you like. One part of your body remains what you turned into forever.
That's a good one.
The ability to teleport wherever you want. Clothes don't teleport. You always arrive naked. Yeah, that's a fair thing.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: I think I'd still put up with that.
[00:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah, super speed. But only with your eyes closed.
Can breathe underwater. But only while holding a plugged in toaster.
It's got to bring in a toaster with you.
[00:14:48] Speaker B: You gotta die. You gotta die to use your ability. You've gotta die.
[00:14:52] Speaker A: Ability to catch anything. You always catch a cold also. What kind of power is that? Just catch anything.
You catch bullets, actually.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Like, what are you gonna do with that?
[00:15:01] Speaker B: You just thought of a really good one. I was gonna be like, well, you can catch most things if you've got it. Not a bullet. No, that was a good example.
[00:15:08] Speaker A: Ability to instantly get a girlfriend.
[00:15:10] Speaker B: Got that one.
[00:15:11] Speaker A: Your girlfriend's amber heard.
Topical.
[00:15:14] Speaker B: Oh, no comment.
[00:15:15] Speaker A: No comment then.
[00:15:16] Speaker B: No comment.
[00:15:17] Speaker A: Manipulate your particles instantly to create a desert in the world. You have diabetes. You've got desert instead of dessert.
It's a good one though. That's a good one. You have David. You just can't enjoy it.
[00:15:28] Speaker B: For anyone who knows who Dave is, just knowing that he spelt dessert as desert.
[00:15:32] Speaker A: Desert.
[00:15:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it makes it better, makes it funnier.
[00:15:34] Speaker A: Night vision.
You only have night vision and blind during the day.
That's a good one. You only have night vision. Oh, have a successful podcast.
Everyone hates your co host in the day. Yeah, that feels accurate. That's fantastic. My superpowers come true. I thought you could do something like, you know, Andrew Tate's on every week or something. I don't know. Although even that would probably get views though.
[00:15:57] Speaker B: Bare views, but I won't want to be in it.
[00:15:58] Speaker A: No, maybe not concrete fireballs, but only underwater.
Ability to go into any book, film or tv show. Two characters at random, come back with you and live with you for a month before going back.
[00:16:12] Speaker B: That could be sick.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: I would be good though I would just carefully select the shows I want to go into.
[00:16:17] Speaker B: Well, yeah.
[00:16:18] Speaker A: And then just make sure that.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: But oh, no, homelanders not coming through.
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Like, you know, no one from the boys become back. Also it's at random. So you would not, you would be getting some NPC or some storm from. Yeah, just some random dudes. Just two boats, just some bank manager.
[00:16:33] Speaker B: From the backstory of Gen V, the.
[00:16:36] Speaker A: Ability to teleport can only teleport 10 time and it takes two minutes to do it.
That's joke.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: I don't. People, the TikTok comment is like, where.
[00:16:47] Speaker A: Can you imagine creativity manifests comedians, I.
[00:16:52] Speaker B: Don'T understand how they've not all got stand up shows.
[00:16:54] Speaker A: I think there's. I would if it came out there was a conspiracy that TikTok auto generates comments because there's no way people are this creative. Go on to any video of any. I'm not gonna give any examples right now. Go onto TikTok. Just if you go, someone might be mean to this person. Go in the comments, you're gonna see the most creative, well thought out insults you've ever seen. And it's like a team of comedy writers could not come up with that.
[00:17:20] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:17:20] Speaker A: Cause it's so clever.
[00:17:22] Speaker B: You could drop Dave Chappelle, Ricky Gervais, Bill Burr, all these people just in TikTok sections and they won't be as funny. Yeah, it's just the funniest thing, buying jars of seawater. I still can't.
[00:17:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a good one.
[00:17:33] Speaker B: Who even thinks of that, though?
[00:17:34] Speaker A: The ability to create anything you want from thin air only lasts 2 seconds.
I'm trying to think of a way that could actually be helpful.
[00:17:42] Speaker B: I was thinking of money, but no, I can spend money in 2 seconds. I can tell you that for a fact. But no, that's gonna be.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: That's gonna be a tough one.
[00:17:49] Speaker B: Not a very good superpower.
[00:17:50] Speaker A: That's why it's a good weakness, I guess. The ability to be right about anything. No one on earth will believe you, so you're always right, but no one thinks about it.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: Sounds a bit like me anyway.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: Sounds a bit like you anyway. Just kidding. Hey, I'm right on this. No, you're not.
[00:18:02] Speaker B: No, you're not.
[00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. You can read other people's minds, but you shout all your own thoughts. That's a good one.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: That's just Tourette's. Just like telekinetic Tourette.
[00:18:13] Speaker A: It is. You imagine trying to use that when you're like playing like poker at a casino. And you're like, I can read and know you've got two aces. I'm just like, two kings.
You're like, oh, no. So I know what you've got, but then you know what I've got. Would that be the best time to use it? That just made me think of. Do you remember that channel four documentary.
[00:18:31] Speaker B: Of, like, scottish people with Tourette's?
[00:18:32] Speaker A: I know exactly which one you're talking about.
[00:18:33] Speaker B: And he's got his dog on the side of the road. He's like, heel, heel. Go, go. Stop, stop. Fucking go.
[00:18:39] Speaker A: Stop.
[00:18:39] Speaker B: And the dog's just like, fucking back and forth.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: A dog living with someone Tourette's got just shouting, dinner, what, every ten minutes? You're like, I'm sorry, I'm not.
[00:18:49] Speaker B: Bedtime.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: Oh, that's funny. I like that last.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: That's all of them.
[00:18:53] Speaker A: I like the last one a lot. You can read other people's mind. Shout all your own thoughts. That's my favorite.
[00:18:57] Speaker B: There were some absolute favorites in there, I'm gonna say.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: Yeah, there's some creative ones there. I like that. Thank you, David, for getting them out. Shout out, yeah. Thank you.
[00:19:03] Speaker B: Dave Smith drums.
[00:19:05] Speaker A: Is that active? Is that still his handle? Yeah. Then shout out, Dave Smith, drums.
[00:19:09] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:19:10] Speaker A: Give him a follow all the way to Cardiff. Oh, that's funny.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Follow if you don't want to watch drums. Yeah.
[00:19:14] Speaker A: Oh, no, I did have one, actually. A question which you might have seen on TikTok. Who's the celebrity that you would fight, and if you win, you take all their money? There's the right answer.
[00:19:25] Speaker B: There's a right answer.
[00:19:26] Speaker A: But bear in mind, you're two knackered knees.
[00:19:29] Speaker B: True, but we're saying fight. This ain't like some YouTube box.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: Fight. Like, just like, fight to win. Yeah, fight to win. You gotta beat him up.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:19:37] Speaker A: You're gonna have to beat em up. There's some easy, quick answers. There is some Taylor Swift. Quick. Warren Buffett.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: She's way taller than me, though.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: Yeah, she's a lot. Told you. Warren Buffett. He's always worth a lot. Which one's Warren Buffett?
[00:19:49] Speaker B: I know.
[00:19:49] Speaker A: You know, he's the. He's the one who's got all the investments in, like, Coca Cola and all these, like, massive Fortune 500 companies. Well, he's worth a lot of money, and he's in his eighties, so you could probably win.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: I was gonna say Hugh Hefner, but he's dead.
[00:20:00] Speaker A: Any people you could legitimately box? Ariana Grande. You could give her. You could give it a business, you're thinking?
[00:20:06] Speaker B: I'm thinking Rothschild. Some like old decrepit Rothschild, owns all the banks in the world. He's like 96 and sawdust.
[00:20:14] Speaker A: Any, any of his relatives I think you could take. I'm not confident in you, Trump.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: I'm. I'm thinking of people. I just want six to die. Yeah. But he's also.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: You could give him the constantly doing.
[00:20:23] Speaker B: The little, the little moonwalk thing.
[00:20:25] Speaker A: Like.
[00:20:25] Speaker B: Moonwalk, the Michael Jackson lean forward. Yeah.
[00:20:28] Speaker A: You just sweep his legs in it.
[00:20:29] Speaker B: He's toothpick legs.
[00:20:32] Speaker A: I gave you two already. You could do easily.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: You're thinking too high as well. You've got billionaires, but give the business to.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? And that these hands are rated e for everyone.
Anyone can get it.
[00:20:46] Speaker B: That's such a good question.
[00:20:47] Speaker A: It is a good question, isn't it?
[00:20:48] Speaker B: So that's two you give me, though. Who the two you would go for?
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Taylor. Warren Buffett, no problem. Unless Travis there. Because Travis Kelsey could definitely beat me up. Yeah, that's true, because he's hard.
[00:20:58] Speaker B: So you've named someone with a Jack boyfriend and an army of millions. Millions.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: So it's just under you versus them. The one v one.
[00:21:08] Speaker B: Honestly, I'm sticking to. I'm sticking to Rothschild. I want to go Rupert Murdoch.
[00:21:12] Speaker A: Rupert Murdoch's a great one.
[00:21:13] Speaker B: Old evil pricks. That's billions. That I could just.
That would do it over and they'll die and they'll be doing the world a favor anyway.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: You would.
Well, you answered that way.
[00:21:24] Speaker B: I don't want to bring any people down that don't deserve it.
[00:21:26] Speaker A: No, that was it. That was a very good show. Um, Charles Gambino new album.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Oh, I saw.
[00:21:32] Speaker A: No release date.
[00:21:33] Speaker B: So no release date.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: No release date.
Last album was going to be the last time he goes under Charles Gambino because he wants to be Donald Glover going forward.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: Am I right in saying, was his brother, someone had died when he did his last album? And that's why he was saying, like, he was having a bit of an existential crisis of wanting to kind of stop that part of his life. Yeah.
Oh, God, yeah. Very much so.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: Yeah. Maybe. I don't know.
[00:21:59] Speaker B: I have also heard a rumor that this album might be a finished version of that last one. Because the last one was a bit. It was a bit like Kendrick's untitled master one. It was just like, timestamps and dates for the album.
[00:22:11] Speaker A: Who knows? Maybe.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: But I trust anything that man does with his life and with anything that has Donald Glover's creative control and creative input, I trust. I mean, you know, I was late to the part with Atlanta, but that's such a good show as well. It's a mention which I'm so close to finishing.
[00:22:27] Speaker A: Very good.
[00:22:27] Speaker B: Finished.
Yeah.
[00:22:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a good one. Can I speak on this before we go up? Move on from music that obviously. I was at Eric Nam this week.
[00:22:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:22:37] Speaker A: This woman's phone.
[00:22:38] Speaker B: Kpop, american man.
[00:22:39] Speaker A: K pop, american man. This woman's phone was the biggest piece of garbage I've ever seen.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: Have you seen the PSP?
[00:22:45] Speaker A: No, no, no. That would have been better. Have you seen the Android that shape, like bends in the middle?
[00:22:50] Speaker B: Oh, then full phones, toilet water, this.
[00:22:53] Speaker A: But like, her phone is now and she's shooting it and it looked awful. That reminds me of those moms that.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: Go to, like, assemblies and try and film the kids like that.
[00:23:03] Speaker A: I almost wanted to just get a video on just airdrop. Well, I couldn't airdrop because she's got an Android, but it looks MySpace here. It looked like a spy kid's phone or something. Like it went out and this. So she's holding the. Like, it's the most ridiculous thing ever. See. And the quality looks garbage. So forever, really, on Android. But that phone is toilet wall.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: I'm not be funny. You take a Game Boy advance to a concert, might as well have to film your clips and may as well have been. What's the point? You're gonna watch that back. Watch that back. On a projected in the twenties.
[00:23:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that was it. I didn't know because I thought that is this.
[00:23:36] Speaker B: I just wanted to clamp down on this Android.
[00:23:38] Speaker A: That's the Sony Ericsson silly Billy 3000. That was such a dumb looking phone. I just, as someone who studied design, done it for a long time. I hated the way it looked. I just don't think that's functional at all to have your phone bending off, do you know? To be fair.
[00:23:52] Speaker B: That reminds me, I was going to a gig the other week with my mate Zach, and he's dashed his phone and is stripping back to old school and he's got this. I can't remember which one it is. It was like a Motorola flip phone or whatever.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[00:24:05] Speaker B: I didn't realize or anything until like.
[00:24:07] Speaker A: But he's a musician where his life is entirely dependent on the social media space.
[00:24:12] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:24:12] Speaker A: Carry on then. So.
[00:24:13] Speaker B: And I realized, like, a couple of days before his text, you know, when someone's got an iPhone, obviously it's blue. And I messaged going through his text and I thought, oh, yeah, I reckon he's broke his phone or whatever. Anyway, he gets in the car and I forgot to ask him. And then I noticed we were going to the Wirral. This was the other week. I remember he turned because she didn't know what the Wirral was.
[00:24:30] Speaker A: Never heard of it.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Made me laugh.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: I don't like any place that's got the hypnotizing.
[00:24:35] Speaker B: He's got post it notes on his wheel of like m 60 and then like a write and then like, just literally like, instructions. Old school.
[00:24:45] Speaker A: And I was like, he's what, 23? Your age?
[00:24:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he's 22. 23.
[00:24:49] Speaker A: And he just like, said, low it. I'm out with.
[00:24:52] Speaker B: I mean, fair, but how's he get work? How does he get work?
[00:24:55] Speaker A: Yeah, just rely on.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: He still goes on his imessage on his laptop and stuff, but like, he said he's been missing stuff, so.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: Imess on laptop, that is. I know that is an awful, awful way of doing that.
[00:25:04] Speaker B: He did say after like a week, he's gonna have to think of some kind of, like, even if it's an older iPhone or something, because he's missing emails, which I don't know why he's surprised by that, but still, obviously get.
[00:25:14] Speaker A: An iPhone six from Cex for nothing.
[00:25:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:17] Speaker A: Can we get. For 70 quid? It'll last you perfectly fine.
[00:25:19] Speaker B: But for all those, like, clinging on to wondering whether we got there, we did make it. It was exceptionally valuable.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: The Wirral.
[00:25:25] Speaker B: Yeah, at the Wirral in great time. So anyway, I don't know why we got onto a segment of.
[00:25:30] Speaker A: You brought it old phone.
[00:25:30] Speaker B: You brought it with your old phone.
[00:25:32] Speaker A: I did the.
[00:25:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:25:34] Speaker A: Fair. But that was relevant, though, that PSP filming. It was a PSP phone.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: Mine was relevant because of your relevancy.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: They're both relevant.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:40] Speaker A: And it's our podcast that who tells.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: Us what to do. That's a good point.
[00:25:43] Speaker A: If I can talk about an old phone.
[00:25:45] Speaker B: Right, well, let's stick onto music because we don't want. I know we'll get sidetracked 40 minutes talking about phones, but I want to give a nice little platform to James Blake's new platform for streaming service. It's called Vault. And I haven't paid for it yet because as much as I want to be an advocate for it all, I'm also poor. But I can't wait. I'm gonna pay for it in a week or two anyway. Cause he's like, basically the idea is James Blake's been taking on the music industry recently, as you know, and even the likes of Kanye west and, like, some massive, massive artists in the world were all reposting James Blake's Instagram posts and all this stuff. And, like, I mean, even at that point, I felt like a proud parent because as much as James Blake's like that person where everybody in the industry knows. Cause he's super talented and he's, like, well linked, he's worked with everybody. He's got production credits on everything from Beyonce to Travis Scott to whatever, to film score. Exactly. Yeah, but he's not a household name, is he? So to think that of all the people in the music industry, it was James Blake that's like, actually said, this isn't right, I'm going to do something about it. And within a week, he's done something about it. I mean, clearly he's been thinking about it for a while and maybe putting the work in for a while, but the platform is already launched. It's got its flaws or whatever, and it will do and it's got its teething problems, but it's like, it's a fantastic idea. The idea being that besides the fact that I thought this was a really good point that we wanted to stress as well, like, there's the obvious argument that artists don't get paid enough and craves don't get paid enough, and I will forget right now, but obviously it's 0.003%.
Sorry, to each stream or whatever, you've got to be getting millions of streams to be in thousands. And I saw there was literally, oh, God, where is Matt Rowe and his little apprenticeship? Apprentice laptop to fact check me right now, but there's saw some insane stat which I'm just gonna completely misquote, so I won't even try and say the numbers, but it was along the lines of, like, there was a shockingly low amount of people in the world that made over 100,000 pounds from streaming.
[00:27:41] Speaker A: I don't doubt that at all.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: I mean, but as much as I don't. We don't die. That is just a disgrace, obviously. I mean, and we're obviously talking about the top don's in music and making that money. You know, it's shocking anyway, but seems.
[00:27:54] Speaker A: Like it's the upper echelon of Grammy artists, an enormous gap, and then all of you lot, which is struggling artists, and you're not making a jump like this. The first few steps are here, there's an enormous ladder with no steps on it, and then there's everyone up here. Once you're up here, you're fine. And it's ridiculous. I saw Noel Gallagher talk about this in an interview with, I think it was lad Bible a couple years ago. They were talking about the difference now between when he was playing, like, little clubs and bars in the nineties. And he said, now he hates it when he's at a show. Obviously. I miss. Caught this one. Everybody ain't watching this.
He's at a show and it's just a sea of phones and lights. And he said he does miss when he was obviously playing these clubs, bars, whatever, or even stadium still in the nineties. And it was just a sea of faces and people, and you could see they were really in the moment. And he said he's hate when he's seeing this.
And he's like, look, you can hold this up, but why are you looking through there when it's happening there? Do you know what I mean?
[00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: And he was talking about streaming as well, and talk about how no one obviously buys albums anymore. Like, what was the last album you bought that isn't a vinyl or a cassette to look cool? Because that doesn't count. A legitimate album, then.
[00:29:02] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: I've bought vinyls in the last year. Yeah, I've bought a few, but they're only just. They're almost just to look cool on my mantle.
[00:29:11] Speaker B: I won't buy anything online. Like, I won't buy an iTunes.
[00:29:14] Speaker A: No, I've not bought an itunes record.
[00:29:17] Speaker B: Or anything in years.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: Ten years. Not till I'd like an iPhone in.
[00:29:21] Speaker B: My system.
[00:29:24] Speaker A: Because they just don't pay for music. Spotify gets it. And it's kind of outrageous how they can just control this whole space and just make like. Can you imagine? It's probably public info. And I'll be on the screen now. How much? Spotify mercs a year. Oh, yeah, they'll make a dish.
[00:29:40] Speaker B: I forgot his name. But the book tried to buy Arsenal football club.
[00:29:43] Speaker A: There you go, then.
[00:29:44] Speaker B: So, I mean, Saudis.
No, I can't remember. I think the Yanks, it's called Stan Kronke, the director. Anyway, I would say on, on this, on the streaming as well. Before I finish my point on James Blake, I saw a Rick Rubin quote of Rick Rubin the Goat. Will. Rick Rubin. And I couldn't even wear my Rick Rubin glasses on the Rick Rubin books there.
Yeah. He was talking about the fact that he remembers when streaming first came around. He was like, for a man of his, I was gonna say a man of his age, but he's like that kind of person that probably could be early fifties, maybe the late forties.
[00:30:19] Speaker A: I think he probably is.
[00:30:19] Speaker B: But he just looks like he's 85.
[00:30:21] Speaker A: He looked 85, so he looks like.
[00:30:22] Speaker B: He'S father Christmas and 2000 years old, which he, well, could be because he's definitely crystal meth Santa Claus. Yeah, crystal meth Santa Claus. Fantastic. He looks like a character from Atlanta, doesn't he? Really?
[00:30:30] Speaker A: He does. He likes that one.
[00:30:32] Speaker B: He does. But anyway, he was talking about the fact that like he remembers that first moment and he thought, oh my God, like every piece of music I've ever loved is in my pocket now. And that's so true.
[00:30:42] Speaker A: And that it's a blessing and a curse.
[00:30:43] Speaker B: Blessing and a curse. Because I mean, I'll never forget, like when I first got, I was late Spyro Spotify, but when I first got it, I remember immediately listening to like Bob Marley's first album.
[00:30:51] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: And I remember him being way early on I thought as well they were like sixties. And I remember just thinking, this is mental. Like I have the whole of a legends catalog in my pocket.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: 9.99 a month.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: Yep. And I thought that was mint. But then he was saying, he was like, but then it, it kind of wears off quickly in the sense that he was saying he likes people. He likes the randomness of people playlisting things for him. I mean, whether it's a radio or whether it's, well, just a radio, I guess MTV, I don't fucking know. But like discovering stuff naturally. The old way I get, I mean, that was a cool point, but at the same time I'm kind of thinking like, I don't know, I think if Spotify pay people properly, it would be half the battle won. But that's how I'll get back onto James Blake. Because the whole point of James Blake's new platform is they were saying it's not just about the art, it's not getting paid, it's about the fact that, and this is one thing I can really resonate with, it's affecting the way artists make their music and their art of like, whether it's stream worthy. And it's like this whole year of these, you know, this short, these, these quick dopamine hits of like TikTok scrollers and just this whole generation of like, if the song doesn't grab you in 10 seconds, that's it. Fucking, yeah, yeah. See you later. It's like, but that's all your favorite.
[00:32:06] Speaker A: Songs and all your parents favorite songs from the eighties. Nineties.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:10] Speaker A: Whatever would not even be made today. Or they'd go 10 seconds in skip and it would never get listened to unless you already knew, because we would not even listen to full albums anymore. It's ridiculous. What are the singles on this record? 123. I'm not bothering. Yeah, because I don't need to. Just because. Has it been. Is it a trending sound? Not to allow it?
[00:32:30] Speaker B: And it's the thing. I mean, like, I've even had conversation with you. Because the single I'm bringing out next, like, the best bit of the song is halfway through, and I was going through such a dilemma of just, like.
[00:32:39] Speaker A: Do you want to give it away?
[00:32:40] Speaker B: Do I want to give it away earlier? Just to pull people in? Because it's like.
[00:32:44] Speaker A: And also, you've got to be posting three times a day.
[00:32:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:46] Speaker A: Two weeks leading up to your schedule. You've got to do the. Is this my song of the summer? Song of the spring?
[00:32:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:54] Speaker A: You've got to do something wildly creative and different on the basis of maybe someone going, I'll give it a listen.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: And you know what?
[00:33:02] Speaker A: Just to not get paid for that listen.
[00:33:03] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:04] Speaker B: No, I actually think that could be to go full circle. I think that could be why James Blake is the one that's leading this charge. Because James Blake's.
He's like one of us in the sense that he's an absolute. Well, when I say one of us, I was gonna say he's a musical genius.
[00:33:16] Speaker A: He's one of you.
[00:33:17] Speaker B: I'm not a musical genius. No, I mean, in the sense that, like, he's just a good musician that doesn't do all the rest of the shit that we're all expected to do now of just being able to manage ourselves, being all content creators and, like, just being perfect. Everything else, he just makes good music, but it's like marmite music. Like, it's not chart music. It's not stuff that you listen. In 10 seconds, you're gonna go, whap that in my. It's not popular, it's not mainstream, blah, blah, blah. And he is just a normal bloke who doesn't really like being on camera. Cause they were saying, I think we might have even talked about it on this podcast. But there was that girl who made a meme about Tom York from Radiohead. Can you imagine when they brought out their first album, Tom? You're being like, oh, hey, guys, this is my idea how we made this.
[00:33:58] Speaker A: Like, no, they would put me off.
[00:33:59] Speaker B: It just wouldn't get made.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: No, we wouldn't but it's like, you.
[00:34:02] Speaker B: Know, some artists are freaks. That's how we do it, you know, like people. They're weirdos. We are weirdos. That's how we do it. You know, we're not supposed to be able to just be like celebrities in front of the camera straight away.
Yeah.
[00:34:14] Speaker A: In case they're listening. Yeah, that's not all people can do that, though. There's not even any hate to that person because they're very good at it and love to hustle and reap a lot of success from it.
[00:34:26] Speaker B: And it works for them.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: Works.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: So the point being, it's like, to be a musician and an artist, you shouldn't have to be the perfect concentrated, self managing, like, social media and marketer. No, because of course I understand that. And again, like, that person, full respect that they can pull that off as well. And I wish I could, but the point being, the fact that people like me can't. Shouldn't be the reason.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: No. That your music suffers for it.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: My music suffers for it.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: No.
[00:34:52] Speaker B: You know, and that's why I love that James Blake's the one doing it because I feel like if James Blake. James Blake was born 20 years earlier, he'd have got away with it. But he was probably born at the right time in the sense that he got spotted and like, labeled attachment. All this stuff just before streaming stuff got took off because now he wouldn't get spotted.
[00:35:09] Speaker A: But also he tours a lot. And in 1985, the fall off in Kod, when Jayco's talking about Lil pump. Is it Lil Pump? There's Lil Pump. Who dissed him. And obviously he did a whole, like this, but the whole diss is not a. Your garbage did it. It's more him, like the most wise. Four minutes of him just saying, this is why this, this is why that.
[00:35:32] Speaker B: And it's a.
[00:35:33] Speaker A: It's a mint song, I don't need to go and listen to it. And he says, never quit touring because that's how we eat in this rap game. And then he says, I'm fucking with you, funky little rep name. Like, he's talking about saying how you can never quit touring because that's how we eat. Because you can't rely on streamers.
[00:35:49] Speaker B: They can't take the money off. They've took the money off you making the music. They can't take the money off. You're playing it live. No, never able to. And I remember learning this in uni. Like, the whole game has switched in the sense that you used to tour to advertise an album.
[00:36:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: And now you release an album to advertise a tour.
[00:36:06] Speaker A: That's what I mean. It's crazy.
[00:36:08] Speaker B: I mean, and there's something empowering in the fact that, like, you can't take away you doing what you do live. They can't take that away from you. I love that. But that's becoming even harder to do because if, without going into it, all the grassroots fucking venues are shutting down. I mean, on that note, night and day have just won their lawsuit and they. Manchester, so that's a big deal. I also saw Matt Healy for 19, which is hilarious and also would have been incredible. But like, that. That's a perfect example. Night and days, I think to this day, still the venue for upcoming artists in Manchester. If you haven't done a gig at night and day, you're doing something wrong. And it's dead easy to get a gig there. And yet it's still like a. It still holds. Its.
[00:36:46] Speaker A: Got a good reputation.
[00:36:47] Speaker B: Yeah. It holds its name in the. In the scene around there, but, like. Well, and to be fair, thankfully that isn't closing now. But lots of venues like it are. And especially all over the country. I mean, even in London.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: London's.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: I mean, Manchester, we think we're the music capital, and I fight that we are, but even in London, it's happening there as well. But my point being, like, it's as much as. It's like, the industry can tell that the power is in live music and they're stopping us from doing that. They still want that control over us there as well.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: But this is like. Do you remember flashback festival last year? Yeah, I wasn't gonna say the amount, but remember how much the headline acts got paid for it? Yeah, I was like, they're murkin it and he's washed up and all. No, I'm talking about who?
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Oh, I don't know.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: I don't want to say the name of their business.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: Well, they're.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: She's washed. I love pocket watch, but I only love six songs.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: But how is she earning that much money?
[00:37:35] Speaker A: Yeah, she got paid a bag.
[00:37:37] Speaker B: If we said her name, I reckon most people would know who she is now.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: No, I think if you're the right age, you would.
[00:37:42] Speaker B: If you're the right age.
[00:37:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I mean.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: But my point being, if you're earning that much money, you should be able to even know who they are, what.
[00:37:46] Speaker A: She'S doing in a summer. I'll see on her instagram. She's just doing festival, festival, festival. Festival. So that enough is for her for the year to work three months of the summer and just every weekend, festival, festival, doing the same 20 tunes. Not even that. She did six, I was gonna say.
[00:38:00] Speaker B: She did like 20 minutes.
[00:38:02] Speaker A: She did six in half an hour.
[00:38:03] Speaker B: With a dj as well.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: No band songs and she did exactly those six. So I had a mint time.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it was great. And she still sounds great.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: She still sounds great. But that's what it's all about. It's all just about doing shows that you can't rely on your to be even, you can't be a mysterious artist anymore.
[00:38:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? You can't be someone like doom now because you've got to play, you have to show your face. And if you're going to have a.
[00:38:28] Speaker B: Think about the amount of albums that dooms released and under different aliases and stuff, just the short content of music. Sorry, there's so much, you know, quantity of music he's made.
[00:38:39] Speaker A: That's what it takes.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Oh no, no, sorry mate. You've got to only release one song that's got like a catchy hook in the first 30 seconds.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: I need you to do a TikTok of you introducing yourself.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: Yeah, of you going with the mask. What kind of silliness I can't be doing with it?
[00:38:52] Speaker A: Oh, also just to break your heart because we're obviously going to get onto this anyway. Talk about music and like music plants and whatever and how long. It's just a label finding someone going, you're gonna play the character of Kid Blue and this is what the character.
[00:39:04] Speaker B: I'm here. Shout me.
[00:39:05] Speaker A: Yeah, he's down for it. But you know what I'm saying?
[00:39:07] Speaker B: For like Eye spice, obviously they go, she's definitely one.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: Well of course she is, she's shit.
[00:39:12] Speaker B: No, she's massive.
[00:39:13] Speaker A: It's more the fact they go, right, here's a go. We go, we like the look. You can, you can wrap a bit. We're gonna give you this haircut and this trim because it'll be quickly iconic because having an Annie Orange like hairdo is a mad haircut for starters. But that's enough where people can immediately, without even remembering your name, which is just a quick whatever name. Like all of her image and everything is created for her. And I've actually got a sad one who's an industry plant slow tie.
And it was only being that someone found from years ago, from like 2011. Fold it in sketches of the slow tie character and it looked like with the tattoos and the art style and the whatever. And it looks, it's like, it's basically him. So Laver was looking for their character of who's going to play, who is going to play this character for us with this sort of, like, aura. And obviously the founder went, it's you. Because I was under the impression that he was just grinding the clubs for years.
[00:40:09] Speaker B: You think he's the complete.
[00:40:10] Speaker A: You would think. And obviously, I mean, punk anymore.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Is it.
[00:40:13] Speaker A: No, he's had a baby with Anne Marie. Shout out to him.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: He has. But isn't he also under allegations for.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: Yes, he is.
[00:40:19] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: I can't speak to.
[00:40:21] Speaker B: So I'm not going to talk about how much I love slow tie because he's possibly a terrible person.
[00:40:26] Speaker A: And also now, you know, he's an industry plant, which is kind of said that it's just the case that it.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: Also does make sense how someone like him that was on, like, the low underground grime scene is like getting on ASAP. Rocky tunes.
[00:40:35] Speaker A: Yeah, tunes with Skepto, whatever. And getting big, big features. Because just the case of disappointing, a label will do this. And this is how modern music is for anyone who doesn't know when it's there in a room, go, right, what's in right now? And they go, oh, pop, grunge, y two k, right. Who can we go? Let's create a name, a character, a look, a style, and what's this person look like? And then just go on, see? And they'll go, this person. 500 monthly listeners come in, Kipling, we want you to now be whatever, blue light. And you go, all right, calm. What's my bag? And you go, you've got long orange hair and you sing about whatever this. That's your style. And all your, your image is going to be decorated around that. And you'll go, fine. Then they go, also you, for 20 years, you got to do us. 19 albums, this shot of a percentage. And you are just a little cog in the machine. That is that business.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: Give me my bag then.
[00:41:29] Speaker A: Yeah, you're ready to do it? I'll take it.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: I'll take it.
[00:41:32] Speaker A: You're ready to do it, right?
[00:41:33] Speaker B: I'll tell you what, that's a better segue than ever to go into. Well, we'll go into, oh, we want to talk about Kendrick Lamar's little sneak diss track, don't we?
[00:41:41] Speaker A: We can talk about Kendrick bars little sneak diss track.
[00:41:43] Speaker B: So for I know you are also a big fan of the first person shooter.
[00:41:49] Speaker A: First person shooter?
[00:41:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Drake and J. Cole's newest tune off Drake's last album.
And it was, it was just like them two putting themselves on the pedestal as the top two in the rap game.
[00:42:00] Speaker A: But then Cole, who was friends with Kendrick, said to him, the bars are oh, yeah, love when they argue the hardest MC. Is it K Dot? Is it Aubrey or me? Yeah, we the big three. Like, we started the league, but right now I feel like Muhammad Ali. Like he gave me his flowers. Yeah, he said, it's me, you, him.
[00:42:15] Speaker B: But the boys are this whole.
[00:42:18] Speaker A: And obviously then Kendrick said, you know, you know, after the big three, it's just big me. And then some of the things I'm not gonna say.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:42:27] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? So it was basically him just saying, I'm not part of your crew. And I think it's more his beef with Drake.
[00:42:33] Speaker B: Definitely his beef with, because his last.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: Song was poetic justice on good kid, bad city. And we don't even know what the full ins and outs are. Although Kendrick was also on take care at Marvin's room.
[00:42:44] Speaker B: That's the one. Yeah.
[00:42:45] Speaker A: And Eddie's whole song was just him, which is a mint tune. And they would have put two top guys, Drake, Moore, commercially and Kendrick Moore considered the greater rapper, obviously. But Jeffrey Drake's just got a catalog 20 times bigger.
[00:42:59] Speaker B: Doesn't mean he's better.
[00:43:01] Speaker A: I don't think he's not.
[00:43:01] Speaker B: I was going to say, yeah, releases.
[00:43:03] Speaker A: They'Ve both got so much similarities. They're a similar age. They're both under Nike in some capacity. Obviously, Drake a lot more.
[00:43:10] Speaker B: But he's puma in he. Kendrick.
[00:43:12] Speaker A: Well, no, he was Puma.
[00:43:13] Speaker B: And didn't he do. He was Nike for like a little.
[00:43:16] Speaker A: No, he was Reebok originally. Of course. He was red and blue.
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Good shout.
[00:43:19] Speaker A: And then obviously, then a few years ago, Nike. And then he's had a Cortez, which obviously you cut the house shoe. He had not a react, I can't remember what shoe it's called. He's had a number of shoes. None of them, I'd love to be honest, apart from the house shoe.
But is he with Pumano? I think he might be.
[00:43:34] Speaker B: I'm sure he's Pumano. Yeah.
[00:43:36] Speaker A: Am I thinking of, um, what's he called? It's with Puma. There's another rapper that's not with Puma. I can't think of it as, oh, Amine's got is with new balance. He's got his own new balance.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
[00:43:48] Speaker A: So it's good to see that a lot of these rappers are getting their own shoes.
[00:43:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:43:50] Speaker A: But anyway, onto the point. I think his beef is more with Drake than it is with. With J. Cole.
[00:43:56] Speaker B: And they've. They've. They've been throwing a couple of disses.
[00:43:59] Speaker A: Each other a couple of dishes. Albums ago on J. Cole's album. On fear eyes only.
[00:44:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:05] Speaker A: On neighbors, was the beat from should have been forbidden fruits.
[00:44:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:11] Speaker A: Thank you. Was just the forbidden fruits. Bitch.
[00:44:15] Speaker B: Bitch.
[00:44:17] Speaker A: The forbidden fruits beat switched and slowed down and put for that. And I saw the spoiler for it because I was his at the show.
[00:44:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: And I saw when he was on that tour, because I was at that tour. Unreal. One of best cons I've ever been to. And his dj plays forbidden fruits, and then at the end on the turntable, he slows it down and then goes the other way and then goes into neighbors. And it's so good because so many people in the room who didn't know until then, who knew both songs were going. Like, you could see the light bulb moment of people's heads. And I annoyingly saw it on Instagram. Someone took the video of it, so I knew I didn't recognize the beats because unless they're done for, you wouldn't hear it because they're not similar in any capacity.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:56] Speaker A: Even though they're the same thing with a couple little bits flavored in and I didn't notice. And then. But, yeah, so cold. But so I think that Black Friday Kendrick Cole tape is never gonna come. Well, at least not until. Also, he can't, because then if he does do that, then it's seen as, like, he's now joining Kendrick's side, and he's distanced himself from Drake, which I don't think he'd want to do either.
[00:45:18] Speaker B: I do also think, though, that I think the reason the beef is the way it is. He's like, Drake's.
Drake's a bit old school in that he does walk around like bollock, swinging at his feet like, I am the top Don. Whereas J. Cole's like, as much as he's saying it in those bars, like, J. Cole's pretty chilling, just generally. Anyway, so him and Kendrick, I agree. I don't think they've. I think they're still boys. I think that's. I do think that's why J. Cole even put that bar in on a tune like that, because it was like we could talk about us two being sick. But I want to give Kendrick his flowers, like you say. But Drake's like fuck that we are. But the Spider man meme one, that's.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: A bar, isn't it? Honestly love when they argue the hardest Mc. Wait, no, just the same one.
[00:45:57] Speaker B: Wait.
[00:45:57] Speaker A: The biggest rhyme against me is the biggest mistake. The Spider man meme is me looking at Drake Cole. It's such a great ball. And the music video to go with it's good, but at the same time he shoots a ball being that it's. He shoots the ball being that also that it's the music industry. The fact that we're talking about it now, it could just be case of him going, hello, I've got a sick idea.
[00:46:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:46:20] Speaker A: And then Ken, you would, wouldn't you? Of course you would know times that beefs are just totally fabricated, especially british beefs. And we see like Chip versus Bugsy Malone or whatever. Like I don't even know if theirs even legit. Maybe it wasn't. But they went toe to toe years ago. Obviously this was. I remember I was at Nike at the time and every week people would have on, there'd be the discussion of Chip's response then his would be in 24 hours and then have these whole things all that Chip versus tiny temperature and they are just a lock on the whole UK gram and hip hop scene. I mean it sells like people.
[00:46:51] Speaker B: It's classic clout chasing it.
[00:46:53] Speaker A: You don't think that they're boys and some of them obviously going to be legitimate, but because some of them will come for each other's mums and stuff. But others are just like, you know, I'm better than you, whatever. Like, and there's so many as I still listen to and remember loads of those bars like Chip has won against Bugsy Malone. He says, I'll dip your mixtape in holy water, pull it out and then frisbee it, which is such a mad vibe. I really rave.
[00:47:15] Speaker B: That's sick.
[00:47:16] Speaker A: But the way he said it's much better. But the way they go at each other, it just makes for better. Like the fact we're talking about now. I mean, also if Kendrick went on his tune and was just giving Drake his flowers, we'd still like it. But we'd be like, it's not the same. It's not the same. It's not the same.
[00:47:31] Speaker B: I mean, I'll never forget. Do you remember machine gun Kelly came for Eminem?
[00:47:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And then he was one with Killshot.
[00:47:37] Speaker B: And Eminem just like, yeah, put that phone right down. Shoot him up.
[00:47:41] Speaker A: This is the thing that so many times and I saw 50 cent talking about this, he said, you ever notice how the only rapper no one ever messed with messes with is Eminem?
[00:47:48] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:49] Speaker A: I don't think he's just because Em and Dre found 50.
[00:47:52] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:52] Speaker A: And, like, he owes him a lot of their success. They owes them, obviously, a lot of his success. But I think he's also just saying, well, he says they don't want to mess with the white boy because, you know, they would get buried.
[00:48:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:03] Speaker A: And that's what he's good at, is just not, sadly, not making good music anymore.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: But he can do ironically again, like you say, he's not made a good record for a while. That kill shot you.
[00:48:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:48:14] Speaker B: I mean, it was not necessarily still fucking ruined him. He still destroyed him.
[00:48:19] Speaker A: And now he's gonna do an eat. He's now doing, like, pop punk emo stuff.
[00:48:23] Speaker B: Don't do that.
[00:48:23] Speaker A: I think it more.
[00:48:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:48:24] Speaker A: It more fits his. It more fits his vibe anyway, because.
[00:48:28] Speaker B: I don't think more fits his. His instructions.
[00:48:33] Speaker A: It's a win win.
[00:48:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:48:35] Speaker A: He goes, don't know who legitimately will is listen to his hip hop records. I couldn't name one. MGK.
[00:48:39] Speaker B: I don't know anyone who actually likes him.
[00:48:42] Speaker A: But now he gets a lot of people at his. Now, his shows because he plays guitar, whatever. And it's a much better fit for him to play the.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: He looks more like he fits that look. What's that tune? Is it emo girl? Emo boy or something? He's got, like, a tune in love.
[00:48:54] Speaker A: With an emo girl. Yeah. That's the only one I know. And the only part I know is the bit you just said.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: Yeah, there you go.
[00:48:59] Speaker A: Snooze fest.
[00:49:00] Speaker B: Yeah, snooze fest. But, well, I can't. I don't want. I wish we could remove machine gun, Kelly's name from our podcast. I can't believe that's going to be out there.
[00:49:08] Speaker A: Yeah. We said MGK.
[00:49:09] Speaker B: Oh.
[00:49:10] Speaker A: Or just Kelly. He's gone by Kelly now. Someone at his show asked him and said, take out the machine gun. He went calm.
He obviously didn't say Carl. He was just like, all right, see you later. All right. Okay. And then at an interview, we were shouting, and we went, uh, just. Just go, I Kelly. Or he said, like, gun or something dumb. I don't remember.
[00:49:27] Speaker B: He said, oh, hang on. Yeah. Isn't he gunn?
[00:49:30] Speaker A: That rings a bell. Actually, I think he is, which is kind of the dumbest part. Just go by just Kelly. I mean, overall, it's a dumb name.
[00:49:36] Speaker B: He's just a dumb guy.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: I think a lot of these are dumb, but you don't know, like, if you're a person who's bandez don't know about you when you're trying to think of your name as an artist or.
[00:49:43] Speaker B: A group, it's horrible.
[00:49:44] Speaker A: And every, every, every name sounds garbage.
[00:49:47] Speaker B: That was terrible.
[00:49:47] Speaker A: You think one of the most famous bandevs, the Beatles, terrible name, wasted this all the time.
[00:49:53] Speaker B: Arctic monkeys. Red hot chili peppers.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: Terrible.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: If I was in a room, if me and you were making a band tomorrow and you'd never heard of those bands, and I go, let's call ourselves the Red Hot Chili Peppers, she'd be like, that's the worst. Have you been smoking meth?
[00:50:02] Speaker A: I think that it's just this very few good band name. Post a comment below for it. With a legitimately good band name. Yeah, I think 30 seconds to Mars is quite a cool band name. And I'm trying to take away my enjoyment for certain groups. But I think that's a quite a cool.
Quite a cool name. But I think just the majority of big bands, unless it's Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin's a cold, fantastic name. That's a really. Even if you just. But you have to take away the mystique or the, like, Metallica on its own. Cold name.
[00:50:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean? Whereas, like, def Leppard's also quite cool.
[00:50:37] Speaker B: I mean, this is not necessarily a good name.
[00:50:39] Speaker A: Black Sabbath's a cool name.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: Black Sabbath's a cool, cool name.
[00:50:41] Speaker A: You know, it's. All the ones we're seeing are all eighties up backwards.
[00:50:44] Speaker B: Yeah. They're all like, well, heavy rock bands.
[00:50:46] Speaker A: And heavy rock bands, which.
[00:50:48] Speaker B: I was gonna say Aerosmith isn't a good neighbor there, and he's rock band. Ac DC's to do with voltage, though. That's pretty clever, isn't it?
[00:50:54] Speaker A: I think that's quite good as well. Yeah, there's some bad names like Huberstank.
The legitimate band who tours is called Hoober Stank. That's a bad name.
[00:51:04] Speaker B: This is. Oh, there's a band from the eighties tune called too Shy. It's a great tune to shy. Shy hush hush. Do you know that tune they call something like kajagoo goo kaja? Well, there was loads of Kajagougou.
[00:51:15] Speaker A: Duran Duran.
[00:51:17] Speaker B: Yeah, Duran Duran.
[00:51:18] Speaker A: That's just a repeat of the same one.
[00:51:21] Speaker B: I want to do a segment on that.
[00:51:22] Speaker A: We'll do a segment on the whole. You know, we'll do one, then we'll do one for next week on best band names. Worst band names, worst band names. And mainly be the worst ones because I think they're either too simple, like the Smiths is just too simple, or they're either too complex or just garbage. I think the best band names are words that mean nothing, that are one word only. And they're just. I was gonna say paramor, but that might be a real word.
[00:51:47] Speaker B: Oasis.
[00:51:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that just. Just a simple word I think works better than the. The Roy Keanes.
[00:51:55] Speaker B: I hate the Roy Keanes. In a name.
[00:51:58] Speaker A: I'm just gonna think, if you don't have any of this, like.
[00:52:00] Speaker B: Like the worst by name of it. The Wirral.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: The Wirral.
[00:52:05] Speaker B: Point in the name.
[00:52:07] Speaker A: Nah, I'm forgetting so many band names. I can't think of it.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: I've just thought some hilarious ones and I'll keep them back.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: Keep them.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: Next.
[00:52:12] Speaker A: Save them. We'll bring them. We'll bring them.
[00:52:14] Speaker B: This one in particular. That is so terrible and it's amazing.
[00:52:16] Speaker A: But big, big bands, though, because you're not talking about indie, like small, 1000 listeners.
They've got to be like, not commercially, because I don't think the average person knows who Huber stank is. Yeah, but like, a band that's touring and acting like Coldplay, that's.
[00:52:31] Speaker B: I love Coldplay. That is not a good name.
[00:52:33] Speaker A: It also doesn't fit their bag at all.
[00:52:35] Speaker B: No. And I'm.
[00:52:35] Speaker A: The whole thing is about sunshine, Rainbows and Wolf and their name is Coldplay.
[00:52:39] Speaker B: I will. I will check for next week. But I'm convinced that in university, their name was something like the butterfly effect. I'm sure it had the word.
It was. It had butterfly in it.
[00:52:48] Speaker A: That fits their vibe or.
[00:52:50] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:50] Speaker A: You've seen. I've not been to a coldplay show, annoyingly still.
[00:52:53] Speaker B: Yeah, me neither.
Oh, I saw him at one love. I did. Yeah.
[00:52:57] Speaker A: One love. Yeah.
[00:52:58] Speaker B: I always forget because it wasn't. It wasn't actually.
[00:53:00] Speaker A: I even saw Milo Xylito, which is the great.
[00:53:03] Speaker B: Why don't I have like 300 quid lying around?
[00:53:05] Speaker A: You see, I think you got it for free. Like someone filled out. He just needed a quick person who was. Who was free, who liked Coldplay, was like, Jonah, come coldplay tomorrow. Whatever. Calm.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: I would like poison people to watch Coldplay.
[00:53:18] Speaker A: Etihad it be.
[00:53:19] Speaker B: No, then.
[00:53:20] Speaker A: You know what? No. It's at Anfield. I'm not going allow it.
[00:53:24] Speaker B: On that note, we're going to take over anyway because we're not going into football, but United.
[00:53:29] Speaker A: We're not going into football. Let me just quickly just give this United fan.
[00:53:32] Speaker B: That's different.
[00:53:33] Speaker A: Go on and give you a headline.
[00:53:34] Speaker B: Have you seen that?
This is old news. Now, there's a task force that's put together with, like, Gary Neville and loads of other famous Mancunians at United fans to basically be on a committee to build a new old Trafford, because they're still not decided on whether to renovate it.
[00:53:50] Speaker A: Old Trafford been there for. Didn't they admit it?
[00:53:53] Speaker B: This is really bad that I forgot.
[00:53:55] Speaker A: This is, again, what we need.
[00:53:58] Speaker B: This is the kind of thing I forget about all the time. It's something like 1908, is it? Yeah, it's over 100 years, but it's, like, still, apart from the Burnabower, maybe the new camp is probably the most historic, like, burnabout. The burger bar. The real Madrid's burnabout.
[00:54:14] Speaker A: Never heard of it. Okay, so, because I saw United fans talking about this, and they were talking about how arsenal fans, when they rebuilt their stadium, they lost, like, a lot of their love, and they knew that these. These four corners were where all this history happened. And also, especially from the United, are Bobbins right now. And let's say they build a new stadium. Let's say, realistically, committee's doing its bit. Five years, they've got a brand new stadium.
If United still even go on their run, and ten years have nothing, you've got this empty, soulless stadium.
[00:54:50] Speaker B: Well, the thing is, it'll never be empty. And that's. The United is the largest club stadium in the UK by far. I mean, it's like 74, 75,000. But they're saying this new stadium could be like 90, maybe even 100, and we would sell it every week.
[00:55:05] Speaker A: I bet you would.
[00:55:05] Speaker B: They really would. But the point being, what's the way things are going recently? The reason I actually said this is because the fact that Jim Ratcliffe, the guy who's not bought united. So Jim Ratcliffe is the. He's the richest english person. Englishman. He's the richest englishman.
[00:55:18] Speaker A: Where's he making money?
[00:55:20] Speaker B: Ineos. Have you ever heard of Ineos? No, it's. It's actually pharmaceuticals, I think, that says no. Yeah. No. You all have heard of Ineos. They're every. I feel like it's like a. I've seen a lot. Mandela effect. What's the effect when you hear, you know, like, you buy. You buy a purple car and you see purple cars everywhere, but you never know, whatever that is. Feel like I'm seeing Ineos everywhere. Anyway, he said, it's like, they want to build a Wembley of the north. That's the point. Because they were like.
[00:55:43] Speaker A: That's a cool phrase.
[00:55:44] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. Because the whole point at the moment is with stadiums. I mean, like, you know, perfect example, that stadium is falling into bits.
[00:55:50] Speaker A: I drove past it this. This morning. Yeah, this afternoon.
[00:55:53] Speaker B: I fucking still love that stadium so much. But it's got a lot of problems because it's not been maintained well. Like, people leave the ground early because the transport around, it's that bad to get out. And I don't know, you won't have even noticed unless you've been to a concert, maybe the cricket, old Trafford, anytime recently. But getting out, just that tram stop there for an hour. The cars are stopped at that light for an hour, and it's terrible.
[00:56:14] Speaker A: Yeah. The infrastructure's not.
[00:56:15] Speaker B: It's so bad. But there's like. You're talking about the fact that the way things are going at the moment is that people still want to go to events and still want to go out and, like, do activities and stuff. So they're saying there needs to be a lot more, like, bars in old Trafford. More like they were saying that they might build, like, a courtyard underneath where it's like, bars and do all that cool shit.
[00:56:31] Speaker A: Well, you know what? Pause. Only because I went to. Only because, obviously, I saw Wembley for the first time two days ago, and.
[00:56:39] Speaker B: First of all, it's mental.
[00:56:41] Speaker A: It's a beautiful stadium.
[00:56:42] Speaker B: It is.
[00:56:43] Speaker A: It's a gorgeous stadium. But they've got this huge, enormous walkway.
[00:56:48] Speaker B: Yeah, they do, yeah.
[00:56:49] Speaker A: That goes in. That leads up into the stadium. That goes on for ages, obviously, for people to walk. So they've obviously thought about this, where they go. How big is the capacity? 100.
[00:56:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:56:58] Speaker A: Summer.
[00:56:59] Speaker B: 80 something.
[00:56:59] Speaker A: Oh, 80k, whatever. Like that much. So there was like a really nice. Obviously, there was only 12,000 people at the show, but we're all walking down. There was loads of room for everyone to get through.
[00:57:09] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:09] Speaker A: Then main roads, public transport, whatever.
[00:57:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: Well, and obviously, the old Trafford, when we went for the women's game, it's.
[00:57:16] Speaker B: Terrible, the women's game.
[00:57:18] Speaker A: And also the stadium felt. It felt old only because I used to work at the etihad.
[00:57:23] Speaker B: Yeah. But it's not. Well, you got things there. You were working in the new. At the time, the newest stadium in the country.
[00:57:27] Speaker A: I was. And it felt like, you know, everything was glamorous and shining, whatever.
When was it built?
[00:57:34] Speaker B: What?
[00:57:35] Speaker A: I worked there in 24. No.
[00:57:38] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[00:57:38] Speaker A: I want to say 2020.
[00:57:40] Speaker B: It would be when the Saudis came, the Arabs came in. But it was 2008.
[00:57:44] Speaker A: Yeah. It not been there for longer than five years when I worked there.
[00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:57:47] Speaker A: And it was obviously shining. And then the first time I went to over Trafford, I was like, this is rough.
[00:57:52] Speaker B: Because the thing is, it being iconic in historical is about all it's got left now. Yeah, that's the thing. But they were talking about the fact that, like, it might cost more money because it's in that bad of a state to strip it and renovate.
And they own a lot of the land around it, like the car parks, massive and all this. Like, they could just do it. Real Madrid have done and built one next to it. And, I mean, they should. I don't know, but there's a lot of mixed feelings there, but. And also because of the Etihad, no one does concerts at Old Trafford because it just doesn't have the capacity really to be.
[00:58:22] Speaker A: I always wondered that why they never.
[00:58:24] Speaker B: They don't. And it's more because of the infrastructure around it than they actually make sense doing the Etihad. Yeah. Way more space because Etihad basically built sports City, didn't they? Like, that's what it is, sports City.
They spent a billion on just the area and it is incredibly well done. So they wanted to do all that, basically. But, yeah, could be seen more concerts there. But then obviously, like, there's also the corpore going up in Manchester and then the. I will only ever call it the Emian Arena.
[00:58:50] Speaker A: Arena getting renovated. Not the photo arena.
[00:58:52] Speaker B: No.
[00:58:53] Speaker A: What even is it now?
[00:58:54] Speaker B: Manchester Arena? I think now it's back to just Arena. I think so.
[00:58:57] Speaker A: Changed four times.
[00:58:58] Speaker B: I swear it's the laissezo on the side, but it's called Manchester arena. But that's getting, like, done up a bit as well. So. But I mean, so that's good because, like, realistically, if you play for a big band playing in Manchester, you either play old traffic, cricket ground, the Etihad, or the Manchester arena, you know, so there needs to be more options.
[00:59:17] Speaker A: But anyway, not speaking of football, that.
[00:59:22] Speaker B: Was still tied to music and events that just count.
[00:59:25] Speaker A: Everyone seems to like our TikTok. Yeah, seems like football.
[00:59:28] Speaker B: Biggest two videos of football, aren't they?
[00:59:31] Speaker A: Yeah, they are. They are, actually.
[00:59:33] Speaker B: How's your basketball undoing them? Hey. Shit. Fuck.
[00:59:35] Speaker A: That's different.
[00:59:36] Speaker B: Dead is what it is. Sure.
[00:59:37] Speaker A: We're not getting into this.
[00:59:38] Speaker B: No.
[00:59:38] Speaker A: Anyway, we're not getting into chat.
[00:59:39] Speaker B: We're gonna go. Well, let's. Let's like, segue into our. Back into our culture. So that was a, that wasn't a very smooth segue, but we're gonna do it anyway. So first of all, I want to talk about Ryan Garcia.
[00:59:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: I want you to take over on this because you've been telling me about Ryan Garcia's little truth spits. Truth spits for a while. And then what did he drop? Recently, just before a big event in America, he said, that's the first time, by the way. I was like, yo. Okay.
[01:00:07] Speaker A: No, I knew he was. He was, he was spitting. Only just because he was.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: Who is it?
[01:00:13] Speaker A: You always have to. Ryan Garcia, professional boxer, right? Has a fight come up? So loads of your thought that he was. We were spilling the beans on a lot of stuff that was going on and people in the deep state, and he was people saying, you're doing this to promote your fight, whatever. And his thoughts were, how does it make any sense for me to promote a fight, pay per view or not, by doing this, which could get my life, my family's lives, you know, in great danger.
[01:00:38] Speaker B: Great danger.
[01:00:38] Speaker A: It doesn't make any of the stuff he's saying, and people think he's saying it for clout or whatever to be calling out the kind of people you're calling out and the stuff you're saying. It makes no sense whatsoever for him to do this unless his only agenda was, this has gone on too long. There's a lot of stuff every one of your favorite icons are silent about, and it needs to be brought to the forefront. Do you know what I mean? And he mentioned he was put up loads of tweets, loads have been deleted, but because the community has been active on it, people have been screenshot as soon as put him in. So they've kept receipts of things he's been saying because he's doing it. And either he's deleting them, his team, or someone above that is deleting, saying, we can't have that. And he mentioned that in Maryland where the boat crashed into the bridge on the 26th, it was, he said, something's gonna happen on this date, in this location. What happened? This happened.
[01:01:27] Speaker B: It literally wasn't like two days before as well.
[01:01:29] Speaker A: Yeah. He literally just said, this is. Something's gonna be happening, and it's just something.
[01:01:33] Speaker B: An atrocity is going to occur in Baltimore on the 26th or something, wasn't it? And it was like it's all just.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: A distraction from getting your mind onto a different narrative. And I saw someone interviewing a Navy captain or whatever, or someone who's got experience in naval boat navigation and said, what's the likelihood happening in this exact freight? And he went, this doesn't happen. Boats don't move when the lights go off, because how would that help us? He said, although you can't just stop it, then the water breaks. But he said, there's no way anything could turn when the system's gone offline. He said, this is absolutely, unequivocally purposeful event.
[01:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:02:13] Speaker A: And it's the same thing. These are the people you should trust. And the same thing about every person who's ever studied structural engineering or even half decent engineer about 911 went, no, that's not how that works. That is a controlled demolition, because these are the people you should trust.
[01:02:27] Speaker B: The boat didn't hit any speed, Liam.
[01:02:29] Speaker A: No, of course it didn't. It crumbled like toilet paper.
[01:02:32] Speaker B: It was like the video itself. The video itself is so shocking to see because it's like. Never mind the fact you can see cars going in trail, but the reason it's confusing is because the boat is, like, barely moving.
And I know it's a massive boat and everything, but, like, are you telling me those bridges aren't built to withstand some kind of impact?
[01:02:49] Speaker A: But there's. The timing of it is so convenient. Unless it's the world's. If you're someone who believes in coincidences and you believe this, the greatest coincidences happen.
[01:02:58] Speaker B: Of course they happen. But not like that.
[01:03:00] Speaker A: Not like this. I'm always the biggest believer. And if there's smoke, there's usually fire. What's that expression?
[01:03:04] Speaker B: There's no smoke without. No. There's no fire without smoke.
[01:03:07] Speaker A: We've forgotten now because I said it wrong.
[01:03:09] Speaker B: There's no smoke without flame. That's that in it.
[01:03:11] Speaker A: No, it's something like.
[01:03:12] Speaker B: Are we okay? That's like really simple lap.
[01:03:15] Speaker A: It is. But it's something along the lines of where there's smoke, there's usually fire.
[01:03:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:19] Speaker A: Which is basically just saying, if you think it's a coincidence, guess what there's no such thing as.
There's no such thing as someone's running across. There's no such thing as coincidences. And it's the exact example here. In this case. Same thing. When I was editing the video for the DW direct energy weapon video in Maui. You will never guess what I googled. Dw Maui Mountain Dew have only got a drink called Maui something. So when you search d e w. Maui, you get a drink.
How mental is that? Is that not the most cover in your tracks? Obvious thing I might do.
[01:03:55] Speaker B: An american drink as well, by the.
[01:03:57] Speaker A: Way, american manufacturer that obviously they went to them went, you need to make a drink called maui. It's called like, maui Sunshine Blast or whatever.
[01:04:05] Speaker B: It's not called Maui Dragon.
[01:04:06] Speaker A: If you search d e w, Maui now, it'll just direct you to the drink. So I had to type in direct energy weapon, Maui conspiracy to get any of the videos of the content I got. And it's just all about burying information. And it's the same conspiracy that people think that because of the very famous conspiracy that Walt Disney's frozen in ice.
[01:04:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[01:04:27] Speaker A: Cryogenic for frozen. Because, you know, that's the thing that they can do now.
[01:04:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:04:31] Speaker A: And they've done it with, like, cells of, you know, creatures are not hearing or whatever because they want to try and bring about one day. And there's the theory that he's in a cryo chamber. So they. And people were googling, obviously, too much. Disney Frozen. Walt Disney Frozen. And now when you google Walt Disney.
[01:04:46] Speaker B: Frozen, the movie Frozen, I have heard that one before. Yeah.
[01:04:49] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean?
[01:04:50] Speaker B: Which was very clever.
[01:04:51] Speaker A: It's all about because you've got such access to information, you've got all redirecting. You need to find out about every little bit of dirt on everyone. You need to know, but it's all just hidden in just mountains of distractions. And whatever people think that the Mike Tyson Jake Paul fight is just put on to distract from the Ryan Garcia business, because if you google boxing communities or anything, all you're seeing is this. And they're trying to go, but look at this. It's our, you know, our most famous one. Our most famous icons that are still living, fighting Jake Paul, and that gets the news for a hefty bag. So it's just about directing your attention to something else. And that's why everything that Ryan Garcia is saying, and he's been very cryptic on it, and I've saved so many videos of his lives that need to go back where he's trying to say so much. But he said that his family's children have been threatened. They're saying, we'll do. We'll kill this. And so I'm calling.
[01:05:47] Speaker B: Can you give us an example of some of the things he's been saying?
[01:05:50] Speaker A: He's basically saying that he's been to Bohemian Grove, which we spoke about last week on the podcast, which is all your favorite celebrities, icons, people who run the countries, are all in a forest in California worshiping an owl, doing sacrifices, and deciding what's going to happen in that, that year, who's going to suffer, where the disease is going to be, where the wars are going to be and everything that goes on and some of the stuff that they were doing there with children, with blood, whatever, bananas, outrageous, satanic stuff. And he's saying, these are things I've been seeing. You can go into his, go into TikTok and just type in Ryan Garcia tweets, whatever, or just go to his Twitter, whatever's left. And he's been talking about not naming people specifically. He named a few people here and there. But it's very dangerous to do that without evidence because it's defamation, and then they've got a legitimate trial in case to really shut you up. And also, he doesn't want to say so much where if it comes out in the next couple months, any of his children have been killed, he's been killed, his wife's been killed. It's a very obvious, we've told you, you need to stop talking about this stuff because all he's talking about is trying to expose some of the things that's been going on, and they're trying to keep him quiet. And he's doing a very dangerous job. And I think for the most part, people do believe, but I still see comments, people going, this is all for clout, this whatever. And I just make sure to reply just with a quick sheep emoji. How are you this blind? But you really think that?
[01:07:14] Speaker B: And the other thing is, like, it's not like he's super famous either. I mean, I know he's not famous in his field. In his field, but, like, who the fuck's Ryan Garcia in the grand scheme of things?
[01:07:23] Speaker A: No, sure.
[01:07:23] Speaker B: Like, it's not like he's Will Smith trying to pull it down. Like, no, I don't think he's for people to say he's doing it for clout. I just don't believe because it wouldn't benefit him at all. He's a boxer.
[01:07:34] Speaker A: It hurts boxers. Like, think about Floyd apartment. In fact, his brand deals his stuff, that he's got affiliates, so they make his money. A million of the companies he'll make, not as much because he gets paid a crazy amount for boxing, but he'll make loads of money. And that's why you don't see your favorite actors, athletes, whatever, speak about these brands or whatever, or condemn Israel because they can't. Because they go, oh, I need you. But sprites owned by, you know, a jewish board. So I know I can't talk about that. As my, as my, as my sponsor. So I've got to keep going. Drink that sprite.
[01:08:07] Speaker B: Yeah, drink that sprite. Goes without lemonade.
[01:08:10] Speaker A: It's the same thing with, like, people trying to go against Coca Cola and whatever. And there's loads of, like, k pop adders, whatever, who are under Coca Cola as a sponsor. And obviously their hands are tied that they can never say, we're not standing with Coca Cola or whatever, because they would get buried in, you know, legal fields up to their eyeballs, and they'll have it in their contract. You will never. You've got to stand with us if we say the grass is, you know, red and the sky's purple.
[01:08:38] Speaker B: Yes, it is.
[01:08:38] Speaker A: Yes, it is.
[01:08:39] Speaker B: Yes, it is.
[01:08:40] Speaker A: Yes, sir. No, sir. Free bags full.
[01:08:41] Speaker B: Do you know what I mean?
[01:08:43] Speaker A: So, yeah.
[01:08:47] Speaker B: I love life.
[01:08:47] Speaker A: I love the world we live in.
[01:08:48] Speaker B: I love life. Yeah, I love lamp. I love lamp. And on more beautiful, like, nice things about the world. Have you seen the Nickelodeon documentary you know what?
[01:08:58] Speaker A: From next week on, we're gonna have a segment of, you remember Russell Howard's show when he had, like, the bit at the end of the show and he had, like, a heartwarming story.
[01:09:05] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:09:06] Speaker A: Someone who was blind, who needed a blind dog, and she lives in the middle of nowhere, and they got her a dog, and now she's going to school. It's always a lovely story. We're going to start doing that awful things.
[01:09:16] Speaker B: All right.
[01:09:17] Speaker A: I was going to say, because you listen to this going, what a terrible world we live in.
[01:09:22] Speaker B: You know, I don't want kids.
[01:09:23] Speaker A: And then they go, look at this story, this three legged dog that made the police force, and you go, you go, Pablo, we need more stories like that.
[01:09:31] Speaker B: You go, Dexter.
[01:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah. But anyway, so obviously, the Nickelodeon documentary that came out.
[01:09:36] Speaker B: Yeah, I believe discovery plus or something. I haven't seen it, but it.
[01:09:40] Speaker A: Of course you haven't seen it, because why would it made it so hard to watch the Jim Caviezel film about Epstein, the islands and whatever?
[01:09:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
With Mel Gibson, the way he produced. Oh, I couldn't tell you what it's called.
[01:09:57] Speaker A: We were gonna watch it.
[01:09:58] Speaker B: Yeah. The one that they, like, I think we saved last week. I don't know if we said last week where they were like, people going in cinema to watch it, and then, like, yeah, mysteriously.
[01:10:06] Speaker A: Ever in my life, I've seen a million films in cinema. Has a screen ever gone, projectors knackered?
[01:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And he said, I didn't put you in another room. They go, sorry, sorry.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: We'll give you your money back down.
[01:10:15] Speaker B: A free popcorn all over TikTok. It was happening all over the world.
[01:10:18] Speaker A: They were trying to get people to stop watching.
I thought I was gonna be there and I didn't know.
[01:10:22] Speaker B: Insert title here.
[01:10:23] Speaker A: Insert title. Yeah, whatever. So, yeah, obviously the Nickelodeon documentary, which is. No one's been able to find anywhere. No, I'm gonna have to. I don't even know if it's in the UK for streaming. The last episode came out with Jeanette McCurdy, you know, who played Sam on iCarly.
[01:10:37] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:10:38] Speaker A: She walked away from Nickelodeon years ago and she spoke in her book how when Miranda Cosgrove shot at her and said for the comeback and said, we'll give you big money, you can come back and it'll be like a revival of your career and whatever, and she went, not interested. I'm not going to go back to that sort of field. And obviously everything's come out about Dan Schneider, who'd worked on iCarly victorious. Loads of the shows I watched as a kid are all these shows that he was on as a kid. And then obviously there's loads of behind the scenes footage of him with his little vlog camera going round, being such a creep, being such a.
[01:11:15] Speaker B: Getting the word.
[01:11:16] Speaker A: I'm getting the word nonce and going.
[01:11:19] Speaker B: Around massive bell end.
[01:11:20] Speaker A: He is. He is, for sure. And you can see when you watch.
[01:11:23] Speaker B: It back now, obviously, it's terrifically obvious in it. When you look back on a tv.
[01:11:28] Speaker A: Show or any set, there are 20 people on at all times. Not alone from a show like that, with multicam, full camera guys. There's a lot of people, guys. Someone's online, someone's doing the rich, someone's. There's so many people everywhere. And yet the case that he's around and he throws arms around them and he doesn't because he was the top guy there and everyone's fallen under his raft. And you see Jerry Trainor, who plays Spencer, her brother, loads of times trying to move him away or move her away. And, you know, there's a fine line between because he can't cut him out straight away because he's finished and then he can do anything and he can't allow it to happen. But he's very subtly so. Jerry train has massively been celebrated the last couple of weeks and he's unfollowed iCarly and the nickelodeon from insomn weather. And that show will obviously not run anymore because he's. For years people have seen that he was trying to protect these kid children, these kids from this predator because of all the things he'd done on other shows and obviously then got away with it for so long. And he did a little interview where he tried to get ahead of it. So he's obviously got a genius pr team because if he just stayed silent, it allows the narrative to build. So if he does an interview with someone who was on iCarly with the most scripted obvious. Ask me these questions. And it's like you did some things that people didn't really like. Do you know what I mean? Like, they're the questions that are not hard hitting at all. And they were worded to make this guy seem like he was standing off against him. But they're the easiest questions for him to be like, yeah, yeah, some questions. Some of the. Some of the jokes were a little bit out of taste, so I apologize. Like, they were just so easily wormed around.
[01:13:15] Speaker B: Not the fact I was touching up young kids on set with everyone watching.
[01:13:19] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:13:20] Speaker B: Never mind what I did behind the scenes.
[01:13:22] Speaker A: There's also that he got Amanda Bynes pregnant at 13 and made her get an abortion. And then he makes a joke about it, about her having nothing in her belly on like a little vlog or something like that. I'll have to, it'll be inserted here. But there's a joke where he makes a stab at it that she's got nothing inside her. Cause he may obviously get an abortion that time because Amanda Bynes was like, before I call him whatever that was a little earlier. And now obviously, she's doing interviews and she's out doing a podcast and whatever. But you can see based on just how she looks now, she's obviously had a very rough last few years outside of the limelight, and she was a big star. Yeah, but I watched she was the man with Channing Tatum and she was the star of that. Do you know what I mean?
[01:14:03] Speaker B: Forgot. That was it. Yeah. I mean, I even saw, like, it's a bit like with the Jimmy Savile stuff now, you know, like, there's a lot of clips being unsurfaced of just the way he talks and we're watching out.
[01:14:14] Speaker A: I'm like, hang on.
[01:14:14] Speaker B: He's basically saying it. Like, I wouldn't, but you wouldn't. I guess they didn't think at the time. But these clips of, like, there was one I saw yesterday with one of his vlog things and it was Ariana Grande and someone else can't remember, sat on the floor.
[01:14:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw that one.
[01:14:27] Speaker B: And he's, like, creeping on him. And they are both immediately, like, pulling skirts over their legs and, like, she's. I think Ariana Grande, like, pulls the other girls top, like, over her. And it's like, thinking about.
[01:14:37] Speaker A: But it's just so second nature just to be like this because they feel uncomfortable.
[01:14:42] Speaker B: So sickening.
[01:14:43] Speaker A: And watch it back. But that's. That video would have had to go through an editing team, went through the publicist, went through loads of people to get it up. And I went, that's a bit mad, that. Or they would have done. But they're so in fear of these people in power that they can do nothing and it's still going on.
[01:14:59] Speaker B: So. No, but it just made you think people like this. I mean, even when we talk about P. Diddy last week and, you know, just people of that ilk and people that do this kind of thing, like, it's like they feel untouchable, but obviously. But then it's also as if they know, this ain't gonna last forever. So I'm just gonna fucking milk it. I'm gonna milk it.
[01:15:15] Speaker A: I've got enough money to pay for the best lawyers in the world. I was watching, you know, in the gentleman. Have you met Susie Glass's dad? Yeah.
[01:15:23] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:15:24] Speaker A: And he's in prison.
[01:15:26] Speaker B: When he came on screen, I was like, of course it's him. Yeah.
[01:15:27] Speaker A: Oh, I thought that as well. I knew it was gonna be someone like that. But his prison. And you see it a couple episodes later as well.
[01:15:32] Speaker B: I hadn't seen actual prison.
[01:15:33] Speaker A: It's beautiful in it area. And he's got, like, the stake on the Barbie, and he's like, got this lovely prison. And I think that's probably what Gillian Maxwell's prison looks like. She's probably got, like, a gorgeous.
[01:15:44] Speaker B: And you know what's ironic? She probably gave up everybody to keep her life. And yet it's still. I mean, as much as we've seen leaked officially, nothing's been done about it.
[01:15:53] Speaker A: Well, they said. They said names are gonna get published.
[01:15:55] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:15:56] Speaker A: And is it not obvious where somehow. Also she's gone to prison for a crime of trafficking children to no clients.
[01:16:03] Speaker B: Oh, that's ironic.
[01:16:04] Speaker A: To no clients because who were the names then?
[01:16:07] Speaker B: Trafficking children in Hollywood, but no actors have.
[01:16:10] Speaker A: So the point is that you've done a crime.
The person who's the victim, this. This all gets publicized. It's not a case if you go away and we don't find out what happened.
[01:16:20] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:16:20] Speaker A: You know, the victim, you know, the perpetrator for it.
[01:16:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:16:23] Speaker A: And she's trafficked kids for two decades plus to not a single person. Mostly, you know, who these people are. If you do any lick of research, it's very obvious. But she's in a. Probably a stunning prison now. The only picture we've seen is her running around the yard. So I guess they get. They let her go outside, what, with.
[01:16:40] Speaker B: Her ipod in there? Yeah.
[01:16:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. She's got the works on. She's got that apple Pro, new runners on.
Yeah. She's playing Fortnite while she's just running around having a great time.
[01:16:52] Speaker B: I mean, I'm feeling pretty untouchable right now, me and you. Because as much as especially you have known about P. Diddy for a while, it does feel a little bit like we told people and then it all happened.
[01:17:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:17:04] Speaker B: I mean, especially in my circles, I'm walking around telling everyone going, told you. Yeah, you saw it here first.
[01:17:10] Speaker A: If we started this podcast years ago, I'd be cutting back to, like, 2019 and going, this thing that's a distinguished.
[01:17:16] Speaker B: You know, you're called this crazy if saying that this, like, super famous person's done something really bad. So did he see his houses get raided all across the country and then flee to a fucking island somewhere?
[01:17:27] Speaker A: So, yeah, I'm hoping next would be Oprah, Jay Z, Beyonce. Yeah, they'll probably be next.
[01:17:30] Speaker B: Well, see, that I was talking to.
[01:17:32] Speaker A: They're a lot harder to pull down because they're, they're much, much bigger names. And also, if you imagine the. The Freemasonry pyramid of the Illuminati chain, if you're at the tip of the top, it's very hard to bring you down. And I knew this on Rolling Stones when they put up their list of top hundred rappers all time. I guarantee Jay Z is going to be number one. And I even put Missy Elliott is like, six if you want to put respect on him. I'm not the biggest Jay Z fan. It's not even just sadly, I am.
[01:17:58] Speaker B: Which is really worrying me.
[01:18:00] Speaker A: But no, I'm not putting him in the top five. He's not in the top five.
[01:18:04] Speaker B: He could argue for the top five.
[01:18:05] Speaker A: He could maybe argue for five.
[01:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair.
[01:18:08] Speaker A: Five, but not number one.
[01:18:10] Speaker B: No, not all.
[01:18:11] Speaker A: There's so many artists who've had a catalog just as long as him, like ye, who was below him for some reason, even though he's a much better rapper. But anyway, not the point. But I knew he's going to be top of this list because of course he is. Because when you're at the top of the pops, part of the pun, it'll.
[01:18:26] Speaker B: Happen exactly as you want it to, 100%. I mean, I was talking to someone the other day and it was like, the thing that's. I was going to say the most disheartening, but the thing that's also always disheartening is the fact that, like, I don't think anything is ever gonna come out of it purely because it's like. It's like to bring it back to the Tory party over COVID, when they all get caught partying and all this shit, it's like, well, why do you think Liz Truss became prime minister? She was pretty much the only one that couldn't be, like, completely pinned to being at this party. Probably she wasn't at the party. Cause no one even liked her in their own party. But I just mean the fact that, like, then Rishi gets the job again and everyone just forgets that he's done it. I mean, if you're going to. If you're going to get everyone done, it was at those parties, so to speak, it would be the whole Tory party. It's not going to happen. You're not going to bring the whole Tory party down. And that's just, like, a washed down small version of this. And it's the same reason why, I think, like, at the end of the day, P. Diddy's massively famous and all this, right? But, like, considering he's number one, maybe number two. Most. Most expensive. Sorry, most high value rappers. Haven't released a song in forever.
[01:19:29] Speaker A: No.
[01:19:30] Speaker B: Can't name more than three tunes.
[01:19:31] Speaker A: I can't name more than two tunes.
[01:19:32] Speaker B: No, I can name. And I. One of them, I think the sting tune. Yeah, the sting tune. And then what was the other one?
[01:19:37] Speaker A: The one with biggie.
[01:19:39] Speaker B: Oh, nasty girl.
[01:19:40] Speaker A: Nasty girl.
[01:19:40] Speaker B: So my third one was the one where I'm finished. Yes. I can't remember it anyway, but so that's the point where I was like. Because the thing is, I'm taught what I'm saying. Like Beyonce.
[01:19:51] Speaker A: That's untouchable. That's untouchable.
[01:19:54] Speaker B: It's also unconvincable for a lot of people. I mean, I, of course, is. I haven't got as much, like, knowledge of what the Jay Z's and the Beyonce's are doing, but what I'm aware of is that they're at least aware of it and they're at least taking part in it.
[01:20:08] Speaker A: They're captain there, Bex and Roy Keane leading the squad. So bringing football up with you, I can't help.
[01:20:15] Speaker B: Bloody football fan. But I just mean, like, can you imagine trying to pull Beyonce down? That's like trying to bring down. Jesus Christ. Like, she's the most loved woman on the planet.
[01:20:22] Speaker A: It'll never happen. It's important. If they caught a red handed, they would go.
Her hands were already red. It was. It's not relevant to her.
She's not even the age she says she is. That's a conspiracy we can talk about. Beyonce is not. I can't remember how much she is, how old she is, but she's someone like 43 or something, and it's not her age. It's not her age. Gabrielle Union, who's now 50. You know, d Wade's wife?
[01:20:46] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:20:47] Speaker A: She's someone like 51, 50 or something like that. Went to school with her, has pictures in class. She's in her fifties. And also, I did the maths. I was like, hold on, Beyonce's in her early forties. Then I did the maths, and I googled Destiny's child. First down was like, so you had an hour out when you were 15? No way.
[01:21:02] Speaker B: But didn't she.
[01:21:04] Speaker A: No, but she didn't. It wasn't that young, though, because she.
[01:21:06] Speaker B: Was, like, straight out of school.
[01:21:07] Speaker A: But firstly, it wasn't that young. Right. First look at. Tell me it looks like a 15 year old woman, a woman in her early twenties. I think she's at least, well, judging by Gabrielle union talking about how they were friends when they grew up together, went same school. She's seven years. She's seven years younger than Gabrielle union.
And it just didn't make sense to me. I was at the time. You can't be that young.
[01:21:30] Speaker B: I mean, it's not the first time a pop star will have lied about their age to get me.
[01:21:33] Speaker A: Obviously not.
[01:21:35] Speaker B: Although I don't understand why. Yeah, of course, yeah.
[01:21:37] Speaker A: Forgot her name to get on pop idol. Or Nadine Cole.
[01:21:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I was gonna do the accent, but I can't remember what she says she remembered. That's still one of my favorite pop culture. She's like, which age did I tell you?
[01:21:51] Speaker A: 1985.
Did I say 85? 87. And she couldn't, like, figure I lost it for a second. I need to say my entry where to get back into it. Yeah, but she went the wrong way. Manchester said, hey, I can't remember which way she said, but, yeah, she said she was.
[01:22:08] Speaker B: The moment the penny drops off.
[01:22:09] Speaker A: Yeah, and she said she was. I think she may be 18. She was 16. She was 16 when she went on pop idol, kid potatoes, putting the ballast together.
I don't know what the thing is. I don't know. Oh, my God.
[01:22:28] Speaker B: Cause the thing is, you could talk.
[01:22:31] Speaker A: I could talk about this. All these ones here, you've got torwatch corruption, hiding cancer, even. All of them I could speak about for 20 minutes.
[01:22:38] Speaker B: We ain't even talking about 911 row family. I mean, I wanted to go into the, you know, especially Z Knight if I now want to go into Liverpool team all apparently having asthma so that they can have, you know, oxygen increasing, blood tablets and shit. Everyone's surprised that they can run way further than everybody else. Anyway.
Dark side of the moon.
[01:22:59] Speaker A: Transformers. Dark side of the moon or just the actual dark side of the moon?
[01:23:01] Speaker B: Just the actual dark side of the moon.
[01:23:03] Speaker A: We need to do a whole one. And I'll literally bring a tin. I'll make a tin. Full hat.
[01:23:07] Speaker B: Oh, my God. We'll both wear them.
[01:23:08] Speaker A: We'll both make a tin for hat Beanie to talk about it. Yeah, talk about the moon landing. Have you seen that clip that was.
[01:23:14] Speaker B: Going around of two dudes dressed as aliens doing a podcast?
[01:23:18] Speaker A: I love these ones. I love these ones. I know exactly which ones you're talking about.
I'm so on the fence about if we went in the sixties or not. I'm so on the fence because I'm like, we did what?
[01:23:29] Speaker B: The moon landing? Yeah.
[01:23:30] Speaker A: And then I go, no way. We did. Because, like, the whole thing of. First of all, if you see the video back, if you've watched it and look at the actual module that landed on it looks like it's made out of, like, paper machines.
[01:23:44] Speaker B: Oh, it probably was.
[01:23:45] Speaker A: It looked like, you think going, there's no way you managed to get there and back on that. There's no way.
[01:23:51] Speaker B: I mean, do you know what?
[01:23:52] Speaker A: And also the phone call of him going from the Oval office. Nixon, whoever it was, calling him off. Hello. You made it. All good. Is it dark? Calm? Alright, see you back later. It just seems so unlikely to me that. That, to be honest, live television broadcast and a live phone call.
Obviously, I'm not the. I'm not the science major to even speak it, but when you watch it back you go, this looks unbelievably fabricated. And also the whole theory that Kubrick was the one who did it just two years earlier, he put out 2001.
[01:24:23] Speaker B: Space and it was so good.
[01:24:25] Speaker A: And they went, that was really realistic. Can you direct this for us? And obviously, then when he maybe was gonna come out or what he was doing on eyes wide shut. They went, yeah.
[01:24:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, do you know, the ironic thing is, if we were talking about anybody else other than the american. The US government in the 1960s. Yeah. I just.
They probably went, I'm not convinced on either side of the moon theory. And to be honest, I don't really care about it because it's Yanks. But I would be laughing off the idea that it's fake if it wasn't the american government in the sixties, because they were. So. It was such a dick swinging contest, the whole cold war, that I imagine they would have done everything, every stupid idea, to make the Russians think that they beat them to it. So possibly. And, you know, Stanley Kubrick would have definitely pulled off a really good job.
[01:25:16] Speaker A: Maybe he did.
[01:25:17] Speaker B: Maybe he did.
[01:25:18] Speaker A: Maybe he did.
[01:25:18] Speaker B: And you'd think that would have given a bit of ammo in the locker for when he pissed him off with eyes wide shut a bit later. But now, like you said.
[01:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:25:27] Speaker B: So are we gonna wrap up our conspiracies and cults for now, but it'll.
[01:25:31] Speaker A: Probably get sprinkled in every other episode. Or if someone comes on, we have a guest in the near future, because I. They bring up something. Go, I gotta speak on this. Stop.
[01:25:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Cause I wanna do a ten pound. We've not even spoken about aliens in two episodes.
[01:25:45] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. We've not. We spoke at Miami very briefly.
[01:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it was three.
Not about Bob Lazar, like, telling us.
[01:25:54] Speaker A: Everything the first time his name's been.
[01:25:56] Speaker B: Exactly. And the fact that, like, you know.
[01:25:58] Speaker A: We'Re gonna rename it to the feelware.
[01:26:00] Speaker B: Podcast, to the Bob Lazar the alien Dick sucking contest. Because I fucking trust everything he says.
[01:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah, we're going to change it. Go on, then. Give it a wrap.
So you had a bit of painful, right?
[01:26:13] Speaker B: Fantastic.
[01:26:14] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:26:15] Speaker B: So I hope you enjoyed our cultural conspiracies. And if you've got any more you want us to cover, I will definitely, happily go back into it. Because, like I said, we've still got a lot we've ignored. We have. What are we going to go into next week? What I do, we want to do some shit, bad names and shit.
[01:26:27] Speaker A: Some bad, bad names. We've got. For future topics, empty and United board sound chats. We've got a couple of topics, but for this topic with. A lot of these were thrown in last minute, so we'll have some good stuff. And it depends what happens in the week.
[01:26:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It depends what happens in the world. Well, let's see. So if P. Diddy came down crashing this week after we mentioned in the week before.
[01:26:48] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:26:48] Speaker B: So what should we call our bet for the week?
[01:26:51] Speaker A: I'm gonna say one, either absolutely nothing, or two, he gets jailed and we see nothing of it, and he gets put in a lovely fancy suite as his jail.
[01:26:59] Speaker B: Well, actually, he hasn't been caught. He has. He's on the run.
[01:27:01] Speaker A: I think they've caught him.
[01:27:02] Speaker B: They caught him.
[01:27:03] Speaker A: They caught him. But people think that the person they put in custody isn't him because he doesn't look quite like Diddy.
[01:27:09] Speaker B: Interesting.
[01:27:09] Speaker A: He looks a little weird.
[01:27:11] Speaker B: Well, I wonder whether the Baltimore crash is gonna come out, that there was somewhat fishy there.
[01:27:17] Speaker A: Hmm, that's a good point.
[01:27:18] Speaker B: I think we're starting to look a bit like. I was gonna say Messiah's like mediums.
[01:27:21] Speaker A: We are. You know, we're just gonna put the thing. What's gonna happen this week? Ryan Garcia says something else.
[01:27:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:27:27] Speaker A: And then they go, shut up, we're gonna kill your kids. And he goes, sorry.
[01:27:29] Speaker B: Well, my prediction, if we're on a hot street, my prediction is kid blue gets offered a random record deal that doesn't have to sign his life away and get his mum killed in.
[01:27:37] Speaker A: Unlikely you're gonna have to get your mum finished off.
[01:27:39] Speaker B: Unlikely she'd want that. She'd want that for me anyway. Well, thank you for watching, and I hope you enjoyed our cults of conspiracies, and I hope we didn't make you want to just, like, step off the planet and give up.
[01:27:51] Speaker A: So if we don't see you for a week, we'll see you through window.
[01:27:54] Speaker B: The window. Why did we say the week through the moon?
[01:27:57] Speaker A: Oh, did we say something?
[01:27:58] Speaker B: Oh, that was because of some shit game we played. We'll see you later.
[01:28:01] Speaker A: We'll see you later. Goodbye.
